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2004 & 2005 VOLKSWAGEN TDI TURBO DIESEL CAR OWNERS CASTROL TXT 505 01 VW OIL COSTS $8,75 A QUART AT THE VW DEALERSHIPS RIPOFF AUBURN HILLS Michigan
If you have purchased a 2004 or 2005 tdi VW car? Look Out!
I need Castrol's ( txt 505 01 vw ) synthetic oil for my tdi (diesel engine): If you do not use this specific oil you will ( void ) your cars bumper to bumper warranty: I have contacted, Volkswagon of America ( 1-800-822-8987 ),& Castrol Oil Company, Bi Mart, Gi Joes, Shucks, & the VW new car Dealership:
It seems that no Castrol Distributors sell this oil, even though the VW new car dealers have access to it at $ 8.75 per litre or quart? ( to the consumer )
This maybe Warranty Extortion?, and also violate thier
Companies ( castrol's) Distributor's Agreements? with thier other Retailers;
Volkswagen told me that one set of bearings in thier
( pump dusche ) ( tdi ) engines require a (special oil)?
manufactered only by castrol oil company:
I think A group of persons should challenge this
( Practice ) of making one lubercant for one ( Cam Bearing ) In ( one engine ) and allowing this Oil to become a (VW) ( Part Number )? Which if not Used
Warranty?
This Graded( castrol txt 505 01 VW oil ) should be independantly tested: & if it is found? to be the same as a common oil found on the ( Open )Retail Oil Market? then this would be Warranty Fraud, also:
To: Demand A Specific Oil be Used to assure a Vehicles New Car Warranty
A Class Action Suit Should be filed by New Car Buyer's & / or Members of the Volkswagen Club of america!
This is nothing short of Piracy!
Below are e-mails recieved by Castrol oil Co. and / or
Volkswagen of America or ( Mexico ):
Thank you for contacting Castrol North America.
VW only plans to sell a limited number of the 2004 / 2005 "Pumpe-duese" equipped VW models that would require the 505.01 lubricant annually.
The 505.01 engine oil is specifically formulated to ensure protection of the cam lobes that drive the unit injectors. High loading requires the proper level of antiwear protection. In turn VW needs to ensure that
505.01 is utilized for this engine design. The cam shafts are mechanically driven and assist in the build up of fuel pressure in each injector.
Castrol Germany is supplying Castrol 505 01 and this product is only available in North America through VW dealerships. It is branded as Castrol 505 01 oil and has a VW part number (G 052 167A2).
Thank you again for contacting Castrol, The Technology Leader!
Castrol Consumer Relations
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Thank you for contacting the Volkswagen website. Unfortunately, we do not have the resources available to us at our site to assist you through this format. Our Customer Care Center does not have a direct e-mail address. Therefore we do not have the ability to forward your e-mail to them directly.
However, we do offer an area on our site in which you can contact the Customer Care Center directly if you have your VIN (vehicle identification number). Click on the Contact Us link and scroll down to VW Customer
Care.
For immediate assistance, you may reach the Customer Care Center at 1-800-822-8987 Monday through Friday, 8:00a.m. to 5:00p.m. A representative will document your concerns and assist you further in this matter.
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Vancouver, Washington
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7 Updates & Rebuttals
Gunny
Corning,New York,
U.S.A.
Diesel oil replacement that meets and exceeds VW 505.01
#8Consumer Suggestion
Sat, October 27, 2007
Having run VW diesels for many years, I have a good bit of experience with this issue. While the castrol oil is recommended, there are other oils that won't void a warranty here in the U.S. . Shell Rotella 5w40 T synthetic meets and exceeds the castrol oil in all areas, The cost is about $12 a gallon at most wal-marts and just slightly more expensive at most truck stops. While I can understand the consternation with VW about this, doing a little research usually gets good results. Oil formulation is at best very subjective. The bases are essentially the same no matter who makes it. Additives that individual companies add are about all that's different. Currently I've run 3 different Diesel VW's with this oil and all have exceeded 300k miles with no failures
Cory
San Antonio,Texas,
U.S.A.
My How Times Change
#8Consumer Comment
Fri, November 25, 2005
Posted about how diesel was 20 to 30 cents higher then premium. d**n, over the last couple of months they've jacked the price of diesel to 80 or 90 cents OVER premium here in TX. All those poor souls who went out and bought diesels thinking they were going to save money. Think back to that car salesmen telling me how much cheaper diesel was then regular gas. Paid $1.91 for regular this morning. Diesel was $2.89. Talk about a ripoff. $2.89 for crap gas.
Chris
Wallingford,Vermont,
U.S.A.
Oil for PD TDI
#8Consumer Comment
Thu, November 24, 2005
I would have to agree with some of the other posters, it is very clear why they require you to use the VW 505.01 type oil. When explained by my 35 year veteran diesel mechanic I could see their reasoning. If you don't use the spec'ed oil you run the risk of Cam shaft failure. I would rather pay $6.00/$8.00/12.00 per liter than risk engine failure. Cheap insurance I say. If you don't like the fact that VW service is charging you too much for oil, then buy your own and do it yourself or take it to a garage. They may charge you more on the service side but it will save you still. Besides, it's only 3-4 liters of oil trying filling a 17L V12 diesel that holds 18 liters of oil.
Davi
Watsonville,California,
U.S.A.
It's just oil With demand comes supply
#8Consumer Suggestion
Tue, March 22, 2005
You just need 505.01 oil. With demand comes supply. Diesel car owners are way ahead of the curve in America, even though Europeans have known the virtues for decades. There is a lot of helpful information on the TDI forums.
For example, many people suggest Motul oil. I found the following at motorsport.com:
VW 505.01 5W40: $7.80 per liter
VW 505.01 5W40: $32.95 per 1.3 gallons (5 liters)
I also found the German Pentosynth TS 5w40 (505.01) motor oil for $6.00 a liter on another site...but I haven't heard anyone suggest using it:
OE Part Number: G052167A2
Manufacturer's Part Number: G052167A2
There is a petition to get Exxon to sell a 505.01 oil in the US, but again it's all about demand. The more common diesel becomes here, the more choices we will have:
http://www.petitiononline.com/vw50501/petition.html
In terms of cost, keep in mind that full synth only needs to be changed every 5K miles, and some diesel mechanics say you can run 10K. Also, you can run diesel on bio-diesel (including vegetable/meat oils) that have extra lubricity and will increase the life of your engine many times compared to dino-oil. With proper care 300K - 400K miles is not unusual...
Chris
Woodbridge,Virginia,
U.S.A.
There are other oils, use Google
#8Consumer Suggestion
Wed, February 16, 2005
I found a few places online that would sell non-VW oil that did conform to VW 505.01. It was sold by the gallon, and I was only looking for a quart to top off the tank if necissary.
This seems like a reasonable alternative for people that do their own oil changes. I don't plan on ever doing that, so purchasing a quart for $8.50 from the dealership every couple of years to top off, doesn't seem that bad.
As for the cost of diesel, Its hard to compare it to gas since VERY few gasoline cars get this kind of gas milage. If you want this kind of gas mileage, you'll need to head to the hybrid. Good luck finding one of those. In my state, you also get to bypass emissions testing also.
Chris
Woodbridge,Virginia,
U.S.A.
There are other oils, use Google
#8Consumer Suggestion
Wed, February 16, 2005
I found a few places online that would sell non-VW oil that did conform to VW 505.01. It was sold by the gallon, and I was only looking for a quart to top off the tank if necissary.
This seems like a reasonable alternative for people that do their own oil changes. I don't plan on ever doing that, so purchasing a quart for $8.50 from the dealership every couple of years to top off, doesn't seem that bad.
As for the cost of diesel, Its hard to compare it to gas since VERY few gasoline cars get this kind of gas milage. If you want this kind of gas mileage, you'll need to head to the hybrid. Good luck finding one of those. In my state, you also get to bypass emissions testing also.
Cory
San Antonio,Texas,
U.S.A.
After so many problems with it, We were done with VW's
#8Consumer Comment
Sat, January 29, 2005
May of 2003 we turned in a 2001 Jetta from a 3 year lease. After so many problems with it, We were done with VW's. But I remember the salesmen trying to sell/lease us a 2003 Jetta(TDI)Turbo diesel. Telling us how much cheaper fuel costs would be. At this time, the price of gas was starting to clime. Diesel was still about 10 to 20 cents cheaper then regular. A year and a half later, diesel is 10 to 30 cents more then super. At $8.75 per Qt for oil and $2.45 per gal. for diesel, I'm glad I followed my gut feelings.