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4zs rvs llc Phillip Mcnight, Very nice rv that nothing inside works,a/c, hot water, fridge, furnace,etc Wabash Indiana
Was interested in 5th wheel camper I saw on ebay. The sell ended before I had a chance to bid. The next day I saw that the so-called buyer didn't pay for the item. As on the information on 5th wheel and youtube vidieo was descibed as bank repo that was in nice condition, everything worked as it should and a systems were checked and worked properly the a/c, furnace, fridge, hot water heater, gas stove, etc. I called the 4zs rvs owner (phillip mcnight) and we talked and he assured me that everything was in working and really nice camper and had no known issues. I made him an offer and he excepted but would like not to go thru ebay and pay fee's. I agreed. Sent him a check. Called the Insurance Co. to get it insured, the insurance agent told me that rv was worth 25k so we insured for that. The trailer was 570 miles away and 4zs rvs had excellent reviews. It had numerous bids, so I thought it was a pretty good deal. The awning was missing so I paid him another 850.00 to install a new one. So the price was set. I ws assured it would be hooked up so I could see that everything was as descibed. I went to pick up the rv and it was covered in ice and snow the temp outside was 0* about 20* below wind chill. I arrived late about 10pm an drove by to see if I could see the rv,and yes it was parked back in the lot. I left a note on the door that I was in town and was getting a room and would pick it up when I got up.
The next morning I arrived it was pulled out in front of the office, not inside the huge garage next to the office. I went inside and Donnie said it was ready to go. I asked if he had put a spare in that they proomised they would and he replied oh that's right. Another employee grapped me a spare. I saw the front comparment was opened and that they had but a battery in it. We agreed on two new deep cycle batteries. Well he said that is what comes with it. Couldn't argue already paid for it thought no big deal I'll buy two. I asked him did they fill up the two propane tanks and he said that they don't fill them. Oh hum I'll get them filled on the way home. The unit wasn't plugged in, the slideouts weren't out so all I could do is give it a once over and it looked very nice in what I can see. It was very cold as I stated and didn't want to dicker around with it anymore. Loaded up and headed home. On the way home I pulled in to a place to get the tanks filled. The only two compartments I didn't look into were where the tanks should be located, I open the doors, you got it no tanks. Got the unit home in Kansas City and went to bed.
Next morning got up and went inside to give her look over and was better than expected. I pushed the button to open the slideouts and as they were opening the bedroon slideout hooked a piece of carpet and ripped the closet door right off. Slides all opened ok. The inside was nice, no odors carpet was fine, they put a piece of new lineloum down that was poorly installed. I was really impressed so far. I hooked the electrical up to my home and now I was ready to check out the appliances, furnace, a/c, hotwater tank, fridge. I'm a retired electrician IBEW Local 124. Nothing worked Nothing. I turned the gas stove on while using my grille propane tanks. Gas was filling the rv as fast as I could get out. I shut the tank off. Afte rtaken a closer look into the unit the gas wasn't even hooked up. I'm thinking now how did he check this. I hooked up the gas line and tried light the stove with the igniter button. I could smell the gas coming out of the burners so I took a lighter and they lit up. I had to do the same for the oven but they worked. I could live with that. On to the a/c unit turned thermostate on and heard a click but no a/c. Checked for power and it was getting the required voltage but still nothing. Donnie told me that it was blowing snow flakes out the vents. Messed with it for a hour or so eveything checked out but no air. Lets try the frunace same scenario. Moved on to the refrigerator same again. The hot water heater checked it out didn't have any wire going to it, no water lines just laying there. I messed around with everything I could think of. It looked like I just bought 25k 5th wheel that looked good but nothing worked on the inside but the plugs and lights. I didn't even want to try hooking up the water because it looked like to me half of the water lines had been cut off and didn't want a trailer full of water.
Now I have box to live in as my lot rent at the lake is now empty and costing me 180.00 a month. The owner called me because I repoted them to the bbb. He wanted to know why I did that and explained the above and he told me I was a liar I replied I"m not lying that there was know way he could have checked everything out and everything was working properly. We talked and yelled and I told him I wanted it fixed. It said no way. Not going to get into he said she said here. He told me to bring it back and I replied send me my money back And I"ll deliver it. No way again. I told him I'd him him no matter the cost and he said let me talk to Donnie and I'll get back to you. Haven't heard back. So I sit what do I have to do, wait, fix this my self. I"m so disappointed I can't think straight I need to have my 5th wheel on the lot soon so I can, FISH. Thanks for listening, Mike
3 Updates & Rebuttals
4ZSRVS
Wabash,Indiana,
Setting the Record Straight
#4REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mon, June 02, 2014
Yes 4ZS RVS did sell a 2006 Montana fifth wheel to a Michael Schleicher. The accusastion the Mr. Schleicher is making are false. I never onced said that I didnt want to go through ebay on the deal. After we agree on the price, Mr. Schleicher did send the deposit 3 day later. After the final payment was 4 days late Mr. Schleicher finally did send the final payment. After several weeks of Mike telling me that a shipper was coming to pick up the unit for him he himself finally did show up.
The morning that Mike showed up for the camper. We had the camper backed up to the door like we had promised and had all the sytems on for him. The only thing that was not done were the slide out were not slid out for him. We told Mike that if he wanted to see the slides out it would take a little longer because the slide out seals needed to be warmed up other wise they could break. Mike told us not to worry about it. Yes we did forget to crab the spare tire for him but we did after we were reminded. We never agreed on 2 deep cycle batteries. The add that mike saw said it had a new deep cycle battery and that is what came with the camper. Mike asked if we had any propane tanks that he could buy and we said yes but they were empty and that we were not set up there to fill them for him. We placed one tank in the camper and the other tank in the back of his truck for him like he asked.
When the camper and Mike Schleicher left the parking lot everything was working properly. Like he said he bouht a $25000 camper. He fails to mention that he only paid $11000 for it.
If Mike has the same camper we had, he could be on his lot fishing and living out the camper. The last time I spoke to Mike he told me to go F*** myself.
I am always willing to help out a customer when I can. The main reason we show the customer that everything works on the unit is for this reason. With some people it doesnt matter what you do they will never be happy. Anyone who runs thier own business can testify to this. I hope Mike enjoys his $25000.00 camper that he paid $11000 for.
slackeribew
raytown,mo,Missouri,
4ZS RVS PHILLIP MCKNIGHT PT #3
#4Author of original report
Sun, March 16, 2014
Spent 3 days tring to figure out what 4ZS RVS has done to this unit, so I took it to a dealer and they told me I was so screwed. Go figure nobody's word is worth a f#$% Well I was told it's going to run about 5k to fix everything PHILLIP MCKNIGHT said about this 5th wheel on EBAY(u listening ebay) and Youtube. Be AWARE of this jack a**. Mike
slackeribew
raytown,mo,Missouri,
rzs rvs phillip mcknight
#4Author of original report
Sun, March 16, 2014
The bbb didn't help the low life mcknight wouldn't offer to make things right. This man has to be the biggest liar alive, please don't take him for his word. I beleive that he opens his mouth just to hear himself lie. You all take care out there and if any new developments occur I'll let you all know. Thanks Mike