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  • Report:  #332428

Complaint Review: AAFES

AAFES Government anti-hardship rule 101 Dixon Illinois

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    Dixon Illinois
  • Submitted:
    Wed, May 14, 2008
  • Updated:
    Tue, February 23, 2010

I owned an AAFES credit card and retired from the military in 2004. Shortly after I retired, I opened a business and I used the credit card to purchase goods for my store. I closed the store in 2005. AAFES garnished my military retirement wages in 2005 for credit card payments. After being employed for some time, I was laid off in Jan 08, and have been gainfully looking for employment with limits, due to living in a rural area. Due to being laid off, I fell behind on my mortgage payments for 3 months. I filed my taxes for 2007, with the hopes of using that money this year to keep a roof over my head. I received a letter from the U.S. Treasury office stating AAFES was collecting all of my tax refund. In addition to this the most recent "tax rebate" check to boast the economy was also taken by AAFES and again received a letter in the mail 3 days before I was to receive that rebate stating AAFES was taking that money also. If anyone can give me legal advice on the practices of AAFES, or other measures, I would greatly appreciate the advice. If AAFES is a government entity, from what I remember, the government/military has an anti-hardship approach?

Anonymous
Dixon, Illinois
U.S.A.

7 Updates & Rebuttals


Brad M

Cocoa,
Florida,
USA

Businees and Badder Business

#8General Comment

Tue, February 23, 2010

AAFES is a Business, it's true.  But it even more corrupt as it has powers above the law given by the government.  


I have had my taxes taken by AAFES.  It was quite harsh.  I made mistakes years ago when I was in the military and now little by little I am trying to right them.

However, our government gives them to right to take anything owed to them.  If that is the case, why is there such things as credit score and scrediut report?

This company is horrible, even my last couple of years in the military I quit shopping there.  Nothing was worth tha agony you endured from these people when you messed up or was stupid in your younger years.  All because the government lets them do whatever they want.  They have even collected on numerous people even after the 10 year contract expiration.  

There are suits aout there against AAFES and military or not, they need to be run out of town.

And this is someone who is loyal military and always will be. I mean, come on. Wal-Mart can't take your taxes.  They have to go to court and spend some red tape to do it.  Just like most places, but nope, AAFES is ALLOWED to click one button and take your money.  
Taking money is one thing.  Taking ALL of it is another.  No where can garnishment be ALL of your taxes, but places can get away with it now.  What kind of hardship and economy does that create?


Tautai

Ft. Hood,
Texas,
U.S.A.

But.....

#8Consumer Comment

Mon, July 21, 2008

AAFES is like any other retails out there. Whether it's government or not, if you owe them credit....you will pay regardless. Remember, Uncle Sam will take what you owe regardless of who work for.


Jade

Erie,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

The Government CANNOT have both a garnishment of wages and take your IRS return

#8Consumer Comment

Tue, June 03, 2008

I have been through a similar situation, albeit not with AAFES but with the PHEAA, which is the Student Loan Service in Pennsylvania. I became disabled and asked for forgiveness of my Student Loans. This was accomplished, but then almost 15 years, a husband and child later; The Student Loan Servicing Center took our income tax rebate and were garnishing my Social Security Disability Checks.

I received legal aid from an Attorney and was told that they can do one or the other but not both. We were advised to file an injured spouse claim with the IRS, we now file one every year and have not had a problem since. If you are not married then this will not help you but because they are only allowed to take from one kitty or the other an Attorney might be in order.
I hope this helps and I will keep you in my prayers.

Oh, BTW, Thank you for serving our country. God Will Bless You.


Dr. W

Brownsburg,
Indiana,
U.S.A.

It's called the TOP program

#8Consumer Comment

Thu, May 29, 2008

Or, Treasury Offset Program; and, any monies you have coming to you via the Treasury Department, which includes IRS and military retirement payments, they can garnish and usually will. If I were you, I would pay them off and close the account, if that's the route you want to take. Personally, though...if you've already gone three mortgage payments behind, your credit is probably too shot to even qualify for the simplest of loans, unless you want to get taken by a shark. I'd file for bankruptcy and start over again. It's really not as bad as people say, and it'll help you get back on your feet a lot faster. Which would you rather do, try to eak out a living for the next three years, while hoping your credit repairs itself, or use the knife now, and spend the next three years being a bit more frugal with your money and your credit? Answer is a no-brainer to me. Donald trump has filed for bankruptcy some 29 times. If its so bad, how come he does it?


Anonymous

Dixon,
Illinois,
U.S.A.

AFEES

#8Author of original report

Wed, May 21, 2008

Something is being missed here, in addition to the personal savings I used for the business, I purchased "a few" things on the AFEES card. Here is what is being missed, I didn't utilize the entire credit on the card for business purchases, I didn't take the easy way out and file bankruptcy. Even though I missed 3 mortgage payments, my assets are secure now. In the post I simply asked for legal advise in explaining how AFEES can garnish wages AND take income tax checks? Making a difference for others as well, that creates the hardship, outside of the comfort zone that some may be used to. Not looking for the normal critisim and assumptions, which is fine if that is all you have to offer, I already know the shortcomings. He is actually a she, those days have been gone for sometime.


Jeff

Virginia Beach,
Virginia,
U.S.A.

AAFES isn't bad, it's a business.

#8Consumer Comment

Wed, May 21, 2008

As a member of the armed forces and AAFES patron for over 20 years I think listing the organization here as a rip-off is a bit much. It doesn't hook young enlisteds, it provides a lot of them their first dealing with credit and the prices along with zero tax are helpful. Sure you can find some of the same deals at Wal-Mart but it hasn't already been so. Not to mention Wal-mart doesn't go to Iraq (YET) or contribute to Morale, Welfare and Recreation. This guy is probably an exception and should not have used his Star card for his business. By the time we retire hopefully we have the skills to not get in these types of jams. Unfortunately he didn't but it's hardly AAFES fault.


Cory

San Antonio,
Texas,
U.S.A.

Dumb Move

#8Consumer Suggestion

Wed, May 14, 2008

Using your own personal finances to open up a business. What you should have done is open up a "protected business", where your personal finances weren't at stake. You found out the hard way what can happen if you don't protect yourself when you do open up a new business. 50 to 90% of new businesses don't make it past the first year, depending on which field they're in. Look on the bright side, your monies are going to support the troops. I'd check into bankruptcy but I don't know that you can claim a business loss in BK court. Check with an attorney. Try taking out a loan to pay aafes off. Those guys can be sharks and they aren't all they're cracked up to be. I don't bother going out to the exchanges anymore, it's not worth the couple of bucks you save in tax. They've got these young troops hoodwinked into believing they're such a great deal. They sucker them in with their credit card and they're hooked for life.

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