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  • Report:  #207948

Complaint Review: Acrylic Spas International

Acrylic Spas International/spa Man Spas ripoff Phoenix Arizona

  • Reported By:
    maricopa Arizona
  • Submitted:
    Sat, August 26, 2006
  • Updated:
    Sun, March 22, 2009
  • Acrylic Spas International
    4126 N Black Canyon
    Phoenix, Arizona
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    602-279-8989
  • Category:

I purchased a spa from Spa-Man Spas in Chnadler AZ in june 2006. I paid cash for the spa. The week I was supposed to get the spa delivered I get a call from the Manager who tells me that the salesman is wanted for fraud.

I am told the spa was never ordered by the fraudulent salesman and that he had skipped town. I was offered my money back or use what I had paid as a deposit on a different spa. I have receipts showing the amounts and which model I paid for. The owner does not return calls that I have made to try to get the spa I paid for.

I told the manager of the store after fighting for a month to just get my money back. I have been waiting for over 3 weeks with stories such as The owner is in Europe on vacation. He was in town, now he is out of town for his birthday. I am still waiting for S3,620. I got a news channel to call him to investigate my story. They talked to him. This is horrible customer service.

NEVER, ever get a spa from spa man stores or acrylic spas in Arizona. The owner (Roger J Abdin) doesn't care about his customers at all. I will update you if I ever get my money back.

Jeff
maricopa, Arizona
U.S.A.

5 Updates & Rebuttals


T

Phoenix,
Arizona,
U.S.A.

Wrong!

#6UPDATE Employee

Sun, March 22, 2009

Again, here we have one {and undeniably} the wrong side of the story.
All I'm going to say is that in the last paragraph of his missive he said that he contacted a "news channel" and they spoke with the owner. They did, and found out that the customer was offered MORE than a fair deal and he was unable to be dealt with.
The end


James

Phoenix,
Arizona,
U.S.A.

In Defense of the Company

#6UPDATE Employee

Sat, September 02, 2006

Jeff's comments that he gave cash to an ex-employee are most likely true. There was no witness to this transaction other than the customer and the ex-employee. It should be noted that the ex-employee presented our company with a false social security number, a false address, and false references. According to our corporate sales manager, everything on this individual checked out fine, prior to his hiring. In defense of the owner of this company, no sales agreement was filled out or presented by the customer when requested. Instead a hand written receipt was presented. The receipt reflected cash received on a spa that would normally retail for over $7,000 + tax. The fact that the amount of the transaction on the receipt showed the spa purchase price of $3,650 obviously raised a "red flag." Keep in mind, this company did not receive a penny of this customers money. Our company is listed on the official police report as a victim. We offered the customer a full refund, which he refused. He was also offered a credit of the full amount toward any spa purchased at the regular sale price. Cash transactions in this business are out of the ordinary. Our owner naturally felt the transaction may be "suspicious" due to the fact that the spa was being sold at less than 1/2 the regular price, the transaction was being completed in cash, and their was no purchase agreement signed by the customer as is customary. The owner was indeed out of town for his son's graduation, and he did not have full details of this situation. He wanted to get the results of the completed police report before deciding how to proceed. Keep in mind, either way you look at this situation, our company will lose the entire $3,650. The owner has agreed to pay the entire amount back to the customer on blind faith that this was not "an inside job". We have been in business for over 31 years, sell over 2,000 spas per year, and have a satisfactory record with the BBB. We also donate thousands of dollars each year to the Phoenix Children's Hospital. We will continue to do business the way we always have. We sell a quality spa at a fair price, and we always take care of our customers.


James

Phoenix,
Arizona,
U.S.A.

In Defense of the Company

#6UPDATE Employee

Sat, September 02, 2006

Jeff's comments that he gave cash to an ex-employee are most likely true. There was no witness to this transaction other than the customer and the ex-employee. It should be noted that the ex-employee presented our company with a false social security number, a false address, and false references. According to our corporate sales manager, everything on this individual checked out fine, prior to his hiring. In defense of the owner of this company, no sales agreement was filled out or presented by the customer when requested. Instead a hand written receipt was presented. The receipt reflected cash received on a spa that would normally retail for over $7,000 + tax. The fact that the amount of the transaction on the receipt showed the spa purchase price of $3,650 obviously raised a "red flag." Keep in mind, this company did not receive a penny of this customers money. Our company is listed on the official police report as a victim. We offered the customer a full refund, which he refused. He was also offered a credit of the full amount toward any spa purchased at the regular sale price. Cash transactions in this business are out of the ordinary. Our owner naturally felt the transaction may be "suspicious" due to the fact that the spa was being sold at less than 1/2 the regular price, the transaction was being completed in cash, and their was no purchase agreement signed by the customer as is customary. The owner was indeed out of town for his son's graduation, and he did not have full details of this situation. He wanted to get the results of the completed police report before deciding how to proceed. Keep in mind, either way you look at this situation, our company will lose the entire $3,650. The owner has agreed to pay the entire amount back to the customer on blind faith that this was not "an inside job". We have been in business for over 31 years, sell over 2,000 spas per year, and have a satisfactory record with the BBB. We also donate thousands of dollars each year to the Phoenix Children's Hospital. We will continue to do business the way we always have. We sell a quality spa at a fair price, and we always take care of our customers.


James

Phoenix,
Arizona,
U.S.A.

In Defense of the Company

#6UPDATE Employee

Sat, September 02, 2006

Jeff's comments that he gave cash to an ex-employee are most likely true. There was no witness to this transaction other than the customer and the ex-employee. It should be noted that the ex-employee presented our company with a false social security number, a false address, and false references. According to our corporate sales manager, everything on this individual checked out fine, prior to his hiring. In defense of the owner of this company, no sales agreement was filled out or presented by the customer when requested. Instead a hand written receipt was presented. The receipt reflected cash received on a spa that would normally retail for over $7,000 + tax. The fact that the amount of the transaction on the receipt showed the spa purchase price of $3,650 obviously raised a "red flag." Keep in mind, this company did not receive a penny of this customers money. Our company is listed on the official police report as a victim. We offered the customer a full refund, which he refused. He was also offered a credit of the full amount toward any spa purchased at the regular sale price. Cash transactions in this business are out of the ordinary. Our owner naturally felt the transaction may be "suspicious" due to the fact that the spa was being sold at less than 1/2 the regular price, the transaction was being completed in cash, and their was no purchase agreement signed by the customer as is customary. The owner was indeed out of town for his son's graduation, and he did not have full details of this situation. He wanted to get the results of the completed police report before deciding how to proceed. Keep in mind, either way you look at this situation, our company will lose the entire $3,650. The owner has agreed to pay the entire amount back to the customer on blind faith that this was not "an inside job". We have been in business for over 31 years, sell over 2,000 spas per year, and have a satisfactory record with the BBB. We also donate thousands of dollars each year to the Phoenix Children's Hospital. We will continue to do business the way we always have. We sell a quality spa at a fair price, and we always take care of our customers.


James

Phoenix,
Arizona,
U.S.A.

In Defense of the Company

#6UPDATE Employee

Sat, September 02, 2006

Jeff's comments that he gave cash to an ex-employee are most likely true. There was no witness to this transaction other than the customer and the ex-employee. It should be noted that the ex-employee presented our company with a false social security number, a false address, and false references. According to our corporate sales manager, everything on this individual checked out fine, prior to his hiring. In defense of the owner of this company, no sales agreement was filled out or presented by the customer when requested. Instead a hand written receipt was presented. The receipt reflected cash received on a spa that would normally retail for over $7,000 + tax. The fact that the amount of the transaction on the receipt showed the spa purchase price of $3,650 obviously raised a "red flag." Keep in mind, this company did not receive a penny of this customers money. Our company is listed on the official police report as a victim. We offered the customer a full refund, which he refused. He was also offered a credit of the full amount toward any spa purchased at the regular sale price. Cash transactions in this business are out of the ordinary. Our owner naturally felt the transaction may be "suspicious" due to the fact that the spa was being sold at less than 1/2 the regular price, the transaction was being completed in cash, and their was no purchase agreement signed by the customer as is customary. The owner was indeed out of town for his son's graduation, and he did not have full details of this situation. He wanted to get the results of the completed police report before deciding how to proceed. Keep in mind, either way you look at this situation, our company will lose the entire $3,650. The owner has agreed to pay the entire amount back to the customer on blind faith that this was not "an inside job". We have been in business for over 31 years, sell over 2,000 spas per year, and have a satisfactory record with the BBB. We also donate thousands of dollars each year to the Phoenix Children's Hospital. We will continue to do business the way we always have. We sell a quality spa at a fair price, and we always take care of our customers.

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