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  • Report:  #7626

Complaint Review: The Crystal Capstone Programme

ALERT: The Crystal Capstone Programme - HYIP SCAM *REBUTTALS

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  • Submitted:
    Thu, November 08, 2001
  • Updated:
    Wed, January 16, 2002
  • The Crystal Capstone Programme
    Unknown
    Nationwide
    U.S.A.
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Yet another appearant HYIP scam.

Check their pitch here:

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THE ABOVE ADVERT is NOT RELATED to The Crystal Capstone Programme!

*****W A R N I N G*****WARNING*****W A R N I N G*****

We have just discovered that a SCAMMER has copied our entire Programme Information Message, and is promoting the "CrystEl" Capstone Programme (that is, CrystEl, with an E instead of an A. The joining instructions have been changed, saying to spend to an e-gold account to join.

WE, THE REAL CRYSTAL CAPSTONE PROGRAMME, USE EVOCASH EXCLUSIVELY. WE HAVE MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT WE WOULD NEVER, EVER, USE E-GOLD UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!

Kindly pass this information along to everyone you know who may have an interest in our programme.


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THE CRYSTAL CAPSTONE
Programme Information Message

Updated On: August 28, 2001, 12:01am GMT

Dear

Thanks much for your interest in The Crystal Capstone Programme! This is your first step toward earning a steady, dependable

60% per month on your money!

To begin, we ask that you not compare us to ANY of the so-called HYIP programmes or games that are always coming and going. The ONLY similarity we have to those is the high rate of return we pay. Aside from that, we have what few, if any, of the others have: namely, a reliable and endless source of REAL net income, easily three-times our total payment obligation at any given time. What this means is, we are able to continue paying our members for as many years as they choose to remain with us, WHETHER OR NOT any new members ever join. Further to that, we have never been late with a payment, and never shall be.

WHO ARE WE? We are four professional entrepreneurs who, between us, have 67 years of business and financial experience. We have families we cherish, and firm commitments to family and moral values.

WHAT ARE WE LIKE? When it comes to money we are a greedy lot, plain and simple. At the same time, we do have our generous side, something that will become more apparent to our members in the months and years ahead.

HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN DOING WHAT WE NOW DO? Just over two years ago, we discovered the secret that has enabled us to make a minimum gross profit of 300% per month with astonishing regularity ever since.

WHAT EXACTLY DO WE DO? We shall never say. However, inasmuch as the question does come up frequently we will tell what we do NOT do: we DO NOT and WILL NOT EVER engage in drug, pornography, money-laundering, or any other vulgar, immoral, or illegal activities, nor have we any involvement with the liquor, pork or gaming industries.

WHERE ARE WE? We will never reveal our whereabouts or our personal details (or yours either, for that matter) to anyone, for any reason whatsoever. We are absolutely adamant about security! The Crystal Capstone is our child, as it were, and we intend to keep her out of harm's way at all times. We know this requires potential members to have an extraordinary amount of trust and faith, and we accept that it will deter many from joining. Be that as it may, we will never compromise the security of the programme for any reason.

WHY WON'T WE SAY? You cannot have it both ways. You must be willing to either forego essentially useless information for a chance to have a remarkable income, or pass up the opportunity altogether. There have been programmes that have given all sorts of confidence-building information about themselves, only to suddenly disappear without a trace. Fat lot of good all information--the postal addresses, fax numbers, bank details, etc.--did for any of the members, with their money being just as much gone! For ourselves, we know that we would not have what we have today if not for taking many chances along the way.

MAKING 300% PER MONTH, WHY DO WE NEED YOU? The reason is quite simple, really. Prior to January 2001, we could invest only a very small amount using our little secret--FAR LESS than we could easily afford on our own. Then January last, we found a way to use as much additional money as we could get our hands on, in addition to what we could come up with on our own between us. It goes without saying, we could not mess about trying to raise capital by any of the conventional means, as doing so would require us to reveal our secret, which we will never do! Our way around that little problem was to create The Crystal Capstone Programme you are now reading about.

WILL WE EVER HAVE A WEBSITE? No. Simplicity has been key to all our successes, therefore we have decided to avoid the complications and potential problems associated with a website.

WHAT IS OUR OFFER? Put plainly, we will pay you slightly more than 60% per month for the use of your money. There is no end to the length of time we will pay you as long as you choose to leave your money with us. We do require that you leave your unit funds with us for a minimum of one year, any time after which, you may request to have it back and stop receiving payments. In actuality, you will have your funds back (in the form of payments) in approximately 2 months time, and from then on it is all profit, if you wish to look at it that way.

HOW OFTEN DO WE PAY? All payments made are equal to 18% of the unit funds left with us (i.e., $18 per unit). The first payment is made precisely 18 days from the date units are funded, followed by an open-ended stream of additional payments every 9 days thereafter. $1 is deducted from every payment we make, to cover the transfer fee.

IS REFERRING OR SPONSORING REQUIRED? No, not ever.

DO WE PAY FOR REFERRALS? We pay Unit Commissions. Members earn $10 on every unit purchased at any time, by every member they have referred. Unit Commissions are held on account (i.e., earned, but not immediately paid) for any member who has not qualified. To qualify, a member must hold at least 5 units. Commissions are NEVER lost; they will merely be held on account until the member has qualified. When enough commission has accrued to purchase the number of units needed for qualification, we take that amount and issue the unit(s). Any balance goes into the member's commission account, to be paid out at the appropriate time. When members join without crediting a referrer, the Unit Commissions are set aside, to be used for future programme enhancements.

WHEN DO WE PAY REFERRAL COMMISSIONS? We pay out all Unit Commission accounts having a balance of at least $100, on the 1st, and on the 16th, of each month. Commissions of less than $100 are held on account.

MUST YOU BE A MEMBER, TO REFER OTHERS? Yes. You must have paid the one-off Membership Fee of $25, and have purchased at least one unit when joining.


Right, there it is then! You now have all the information we can give you regarding The Crystal Capstone Programme. We will be pleased to have you as a member if you should decide to join us, and if not, then we wish you all the very best in all your endeavours.

INSTRUCTIONS FOR JOINING

After a great deal of research we decided on the Evocash Digital Currency System as the exclusive means by which we will pay our members. None of the other systems we looked at came close to offering, in our determination, the overall level of security and privacy offered by Evocash.

Paying for your membership and units is simple. The easiest way is by making an instant transfer from your own Evocash account to ours. Otherwise, you can pay using e-gold, osgold, money orders, cashiers checks, or bank wire transfers, all of which are accepted by the exchange maker for Evocash (X-Changers). Please see their website for details:

http://www.x-changers.com

As a member, you must have your own Evocash account for us to make your payments to. Your Evocash account number will also be your Crystal Capstone Member ID number.

Evocash accounts are free, and take only moments to open. Visit their website and click on the New Account button:

http://www.evo-cash.com

The one-off (one-time-only) Membership Fee is $25, and units are $100 apiece. You must pay the Membership Fee and purchase at least one unit when joining (a total of $125). Additional units may be purchased when joining, or at any time later. We do impose a maximum limit of 250 units per member.

Follow these steps to join:

1. First things first, open an evocash account if you do not already have one. Your Evocash account number will be your Crystal Capstone Member ID number.

2. Decide how many units you will want, then do one of the following:

-- Fund OUR Evocash account #7877 with the proper amount. Or;

-- Fund YOUR OWN Evocash account, then transfer the proper amount to our account #7877

In either case, please BE CERTAIN to put in the Memo section of your transfer, YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, and your REFERRER'S ID number (if an existing member has referred you).

Here are some examples to guide you:

-- If you are joining and purchasing one unit (the minimum), you would fund our account with your Membership Fee of $25, and $100 for the unit, for a total of $125.

-- If you are joining and purchasing, say, 8 units, you would fund our account with $825 (Membership Fee, $25 -- 8 units, $800 -- Total, $825)

-- If you are joining and purchasing 3 units you would fund our account with $325
(Membership Fee, $25 -- 3 units, $300 -- Total $325)

3. Please be CERTAIN to put your EMAIL ADDRESS and your REFERRER'S ID NUMBER (if you were referred) into the MEMO section of the Evocash transfer form.

Please do not write to advise us you have made a transfer! Our Evo account is checked numerous times throughout the day and night, therefore you will hear from us in UNDER 24 HOURS! If you do not, the most likely reason is that you did not give us your email address. If you have not heard from us after 24 hours, kindly WRITE TO US IMMEDIATELY to enquire.

Once your Membership is active, you may refer others to the programme (but NO SPAMMING EVER, or your Membership will be immediately closed and you will forfeit all future payments!). We cannot over-emphasize how entirely serious we are about this no spamming business!

We would ask that you read the foregoing information over carefully so you will fully understand the workings of the programme. Having done so, should you have unanswered questions, by all means do send them along to us!

With the way we have things worked out, problems are so rare as to be practically non-existent. However, if should need to write, kindly use this address for any matter which is NOT directly related to a payment (to or from us):

crystal-enquiries@safe-mail.net

If your enquiry is in any way PAYMENT-RELATED, kindly use this address only:

crystal-payments@safe-mail.net

We DO CONFIRM receipt of funds within 24 hours, and usually much sooner. There has so far never been an occasion when it has gone beyond that time frame, except in cases where we did not receive the member's email address. Still, if it should go beyond 24 hours, PLEASE DO enquire without further delay, giving your payment transaction details, using the payments address shown above.

In closing then, thank you once again, , for looking into The Crystal Capstone Programme! We do hope to add you as a new member in the near future.

All the very best,

Crystal Capstone Administrators

************** END OF PITCH *******************

After asking for more information with regards to how to check payments and progress, withdrawal methods and costs the following reply was sent:


All the information regarding the operation of the programme is included in our Programme Information Message. Regardless what we tell you, or how we answer your questions, you will be no further ahead than you are now, will you? Therefore, decide either to join or not join, and leave it at that please.

Regards,

Crystal Capstone Administrators


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Very, VERY suspicious!!

Be extremely careful in dealing with these people:

1) No website
2) No means of checking your balance
3) No address or official email
4) No NOTHING.

This is a black hole, not an oppertunity

4 Updates & Rebuttals


Everything in life is a scam according to these clowns

#50

Wed, January 16, 2002

They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:

Their email: richhead@hotmail.com
Their name: Richard Head

Their relationship to the company: Consumer Suggestion

Rebuttal:
Everything in life is a scam according to these clowns who submit their own PERSONAL views to this scam site!

Funny thing they seem to have such great interest in saving other peoples money.....What about their own?

Thousands of people everyday take part in government run lottories and casinos! No one seems to really care!

The scary thing is that some of these HYIP's actually are 100% real and DO PAY!!!

Oh my god....it can't be true I hear the scam police say in total
disbelief!

Oh well.Probably a good thing as someone has to keep the country running and work a 9-5 job for a measly salary....

Good luck to all of you scam police you are doing a great job :)
We can't have everyone getting rich can we!!!

If ONLY you had any idea of what you are talking about.

Ha, ha, ha

By Dr Richard T Head


Is there ANYONE that could actually take the whole thing seriously? C'mon now.

#50

Fri, November 09, 2001

This email is a rebuttal to RipOff #7626.

It was sent by Adolph at adolphchrist@godisdead.com.



ALERT: The Crystal Capstone Programme - HYIP SCAM (#7626)



They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:



Their email: adolphchrist@godisdead.com

Their name: Adolph



Their relationship to the company: Consumer Suggestion



Rebuttal:

Copy and pasted from the Crystal rhetoric:



>>>>WHERE ARE WE? We will never reveal our hereabouts ......WHAT EXACTLY DO WE DO? We shall never say......WILL WE EVER HAVE A WEBSITE? No. ...This is your first step toward earning a steady, dependable 60% per month on your money!



We know this requires potential members to have an extraordinary amount of trust and faith, and we accept that it will deter many from joining.


"Requires members to have an extradinary amount of trust and faith."...No $hit, Surlock. Now THAT is the understatement of the year...no, the MILLENNIUM.



"It will deter many from joining" Yeah, I'd say so. Anyone with a

scintilla of common sense.



"60% per month on your money"...Wow! That'd be 720% per annum PLUS COMPOUNDING....Suuuuure!



Please, Badbusinessbureau, tell me this "Crystal" thing is someone's comedic endeavor. The description totally exceeds the most outrageously humorous, totally unbelievable, inane "investment plan" I've ever witnessed.



Is there ANYONE that could actually take the whole thing seriously? C'mon now.


Is there ANYONE that could actually take the whole thing seriously? C'mon now.

#50

Fri, November 09, 2001

This email is a rebuttal to RipOff #7626.

It was sent by Adolph at adolphchrist@godisdead.com.



ALERT: The Crystal Capstone Programme - HYIP SCAM (#7626)



They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:



Their email: adolphchrist@godisdead.com

Their name: Adolph



Their relationship to the company: Consumer Suggestion



Rebuttal:

Copy and pasted from the Crystal rhetoric:



>>>>WHERE ARE WE? We will never reveal our hereabouts ......WHAT EXACTLY DO WE DO? We shall never say......WILL WE EVER HAVE A WEBSITE? No. ...This is your first step toward earning a steady, dependable 60% per month on your money!



We know this requires potential members to have an extraordinary amount of trust and faith, and we accept that it will deter many from joining.


"Requires members to have an extradinary amount of trust and faith."...No $hit, Surlock. Now THAT is the understatement of the year...no, the MILLENNIUM.



"It will deter many from joining" Yeah, I'd say so. Anyone with a

scintilla of common sense.



"60% per month on your money"...Wow! That'd be 720% per annum PLUS COMPOUNDING....Suuuuure!



Please, Badbusinessbureau, tell me this "Crystal" thing is someone's comedic endeavor. The description totally exceeds the most outrageously humorous, totally unbelievable, inane "investment plan" I've ever witnessed.



Is there ANYONE that could actually take the whole thing seriously? C'mon now.


Is there ANYONE that could actually take the whole thing seriously? C'mon now.

#50

Fri, November 09, 2001

This email is a rebuttal to RipOff #7626.

It was sent by Adolph at adolphchrist@godisdead.com.



ALERT: The Crystal Capstone Programme - HYIP SCAM (#7626)



They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:



Their email: adolphchrist@godisdead.com

Their name: Adolph



Their relationship to the company: Consumer Suggestion



Rebuttal:

Copy and pasted from the Crystal rhetoric:



>>>>WHERE ARE WE? We will never reveal our hereabouts ......WHAT EXACTLY DO WE DO? We shall never say......WILL WE EVER HAVE A WEBSITE? No. ...This is your first step toward earning a steady, dependable 60% per month on your money!



We know this requires potential members to have an extraordinary amount of trust and faith, and we accept that it will deter many from joining.


"Requires members to have an extradinary amount of trust and faith."...No $hit, Surlock. Now THAT is the understatement of the year...no, the MILLENNIUM.



"It will deter many from joining" Yeah, I'd say so. Anyone with a

scintilla of common sense.



"60% per month on your money"...Wow! That'd be 720% per annum PLUS COMPOUNDING....Suuuuure!



Please, Badbusinessbureau, tell me this "Crystal" thing is someone's comedic endeavor. The description totally exceeds the most outrageously humorous, totally unbelievable, inane "investment plan" I've ever witnessed.



Is there ANYONE that could actually take the whole thing seriously? C'mon now.

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