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Amanda Craig Shihtzu Breeder Dishonest promises to deliver then does not keeps deposit Ripoff Dardanelle Arkansas
amanda cgaig told me she was selling me a shihtzu now she has 300.00 of my money and is still on puppy find. she has caused dispute with empress shihtzu over this. I dont need to sell shihtzus to make money nor steal someones deposit unstead of shipping.I recently did transaction over internet thought all was safe. at 1 st I was going to pull out red flag with this scammer but I called one of the shihtzu breeders in her state who said she is ok go ahead. so I proceeded not much different than danielle giving darci bad advice. I was givin some also by a women that empress shihtzu danielle does we sites for. but people why is it danielle knows the craigs with no web site. what is your affiliation with each other. I have shihtzus doesnot mean I know all alabama breeders nor would want too. ananda graig feels she has right to keep my deposit of over the amount to get health certificate ,crate and to fly her why? because she never intended on selling me a one year old it was a puppy on puppy find they kept pushing on me. oh she came out and quote on email said I have 2 chocolate shihtzus and do not intend on selling either one I can post it. Amanda Your dishonest ways have caused someone who I believed had wonderful dogs to be brought out in my eyes as what i see when i click puppy mill as their kennel can we see your kennel please. just so I know how my shihtzus puppies are doing remember peebles was paid in full when your daughter got her pregnant and I intend to get what I paid for. you people was so hard up for 300.00 to call me and my husband one on each phone screaming danielle said danielle said well now look at what you have done 300.00 amanda you are pathetic.
Michelle
mobile, Alabama
U.S.A.
28 Updates & Rebuttals
Michelle
mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
update on craigs in dardanielle arkansas not over attorney general and akc is checking into it
#29Author of original report
Thu, June 07, 2007
also amanda graig on puppy find told me to send her 1,020 i did no dog no money but less 320.00 i want mt money and when she was mated they had my money and was going to ship her. then tried to sell me a puppy. let 12 yr old daughter mate dogs. i guess they cant take care of their dogs so they let children breed. to whatever it might be to a pig on that farm addy is route box sounds pretty farmy to me which nothing wrong with farm just something wrong w/12 year old breeeding akc shihtzus. suspend them akc
Michelle
mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
update on craigs in dardanielle arkansas not over attorney general and akc is checking into it
#29Author of original report
Thu, June 07, 2007
also amanda graig on puppy find told me to send her 1,020 i did no dog no money but less 320.00 i want mt money and when she was mated they had my money and was going to ship her. then tried to sell me a puppy. let 12 yr old daughter mate dogs. i guess they cant take care of their dogs so they let children breed. to whatever it might be to a pig on that farm addy is route box sounds pretty farmy to me which nothing wrong with farm just something wrong w/12 year old breeeding akc shihtzus. suspend them akc
Michelle
mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
update on craigs in dardanielle arkansas not over attorney general and akc is checking into it
#29Author of original report
Thu, June 07, 2007
also amanda graig on puppy find told me to send her 1,020 i did no dog no money but less 320.00 i want mt money and when she was mated they had my money and was going to ship her. then tried to sell me a puppy. let 12 yr old daughter mate dogs. i guess they cant take care of their dogs so they let children breed. to whatever it might be to a pig on that farm addy is route box sounds pretty farmy to me which nothing wrong with farm just something wrong w/12 year old breeeding akc shihtzus. suspend them akc
Michelle
mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
update on craigs in dardanielle arkansas not over attorney general and akc is checking into it
#29Author of original report
Thu, June 07, 2007
also amanda graig on puppy find told me to send her 1,020 i did no dog no money but less 320.00 i want mt money and when she was mated they had my money and was going to ship her. then tried to sell me a puppy. let 12 yr old daughter mate dogs. i guess they cant take care of their dogs so they let children breed. to whatever it might be to a pig on that farm addy is route box sounds pretty farmy to me which nothing wrong with farm just something wrong w/12 year old breeeding akc shihtzus. suspend them akc
Danielle
Oxford,Nebraska,
U.S.A.
Thanx you for posting this comment that I made on another string....it applies here as well.
#29Consumer Suggestion
Fri, May 11, 2007
This was my original post to a different string posted on another report on this site. Thank you Michelle for posting my original comment here, as it does apply.
Danielle
Rebuttal Consumer Suggestion
Submitted: 5/11/2007 6:50:57 AM Modified: 5/11/2007 7:54:31 AM
I do not have to post under fake names.
I was informed that people were posting my emails so I decided to take a look. I just cannot believe that people do not have anyting better to do than attack each other on this website. I have not made any of the postings above. I did however send the emails that were between Michelle and myself, to other breeders when Michelle started attacking me. I wanted people to see my words before they were turned around. I really do not have time for these ridiculous and childish games. I do have my family to worry about, and that is what you all should be worrying about as well. You can all say what you wish about me. What you say or think about me does not affect me. The only opinion that matters to me is the opinion of my Lord. You all should be ashamed of yourselves, grown women acting like children. I suggest that you all go to church this Sunday and ask for the forgiveness of your Lord.
God Bless you all,
Danielle
Michelle
Mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
I do not have to post under fake names.
#29Author of original report
Fri, May 11, 2007
I was informed that people were posting my emails so I decided to take a look. I just cannot believe that people do not have anyting better to do than attack each other on this website. I have not made any of the postings above. I did however send the emails that were between Michelle and myself, to other breeders when Michelle started attacking me. I wanted people to see my words before they were turned around. I really do not have time for these ridiculous and childish games. I do have my family to worry about, and that is what you all should be worrying about as well.
You can all say what you wish about me. What you say or think about me does not affect me. The only opinion that matters to me is the opinion of my Lord. You all should be ashamed of yourselves, grown women acting like children. I suggest that you all go to church this Sunday and ask for the forgiveness of your Lord.
God Bless you all,
Danielle
Michelle
Mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
sherry carter i cantstand that name and judy from nowhere bring it on nowhere girl i have got nothing to lose i was ripped off
#29Author of original report
Thu, May 10, 2007
as for people posting my maiden 1 st married and 2 nd married name go to sheery carter bowden those alias she has about 10 she is a scammer and daniell out of respect for one of your dear friends I told her I would let it go but now you are posting under jennefer or tammy you are the mutiple personality poster you said me danielle had nothing to do with michelle sainz and darci and etc but yey toy signed off tammy in sainsville nebraska see who is the real con on her posting under different names i aint scerd bring it on i have no akc dogs mated but you do and u gi=ve advice to put on akc papers dogs that are not the sirs you could do it so maybe tomorrow i will email akc about you and this site and let them investicate cause i have not started breeding akc yet you have though you got something to loose jennifer tammy from sainsville lol you are a joke and to think anyone would think you are a christian lol
Michelle
Mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
I have contacted owner of your company
#29Consumer Suggestion
Thu, May 10, 2007
amanda craig I have written a letter to akc. tomorrow I will call the attorney generals office and then you will be recieving your court order very shortly. You need to be sending me money and if you dont want too fine the judge will make sure you do . first of all I have 2 emails stating you will bring me the shihtzu. akc knows you let a 12 yearold breed your shihtzu and so will all animal activists in your town and state. the small claims court allows me to sue for $5,000.00 I will have expenses to fly to your state and also to get room and etc. You tried to call again my husband today. we will bring how all other breeders charge 250.00 to ship shihtzu but you charge 300.00 for nothing. quit calling my number that will be mentioned to attorney general also. this is between amanda her job and me. If she has something to say that will not incriminate her further I advice her to call me. I will listen if reasonable. I have not even begun with akc thats only beginning when you have my money and mated my peebles without my consent while she was paid in full.
Kim
Moose Point,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
GO BACK TO the twilight zone !!!
#29UPDATE EX-employee responds
Tue, May 08, 2007
Another form of control I think. now come after me little breeder I have been in the game dont think michelle **** would not supeno you to court whats your name and address she has proof email they said 2 times in writing we will bring the dog to you learn to read stupid go back over email spells it out leave her alone she has had but 1 litter!!!!!!! you sick byat amanda pay up here or in court your call $5,000.00 small claims
Sherry - Mntlsher Rd, Alabama
U.S.A.
WOW !!! This Nut case loves the name Sherry !!! Said she would not post any more. Now all her others personalitys are posting .This is one sick puppy you guys have no your hands.
She claims to never post again then her other personality come out , and post behind her back.
This insane woman will never stay off this site ! No telling how many more states you will find her in much less what country you will find her posting in! If not her one of her many personalitys ! She lives for the insanity from the looks of the post .
Boy does she Love to be Sherry. Who or what ever is it ??? It needs to hop a space ship ,and go back to the twilight zone.
Sherry
Mntlsher Rd,Alabama,
U.S.A.
look i say pack them up michelle has no say so she has left this site
#29Consumer Suggestion
Tue, May 08, 2007
none is that what you are scared to put your real name and number.leave michelle alone she said earlier she would not post and she has not .she has spoken to someone who is like sisters to danielle and you keep making it worse buy not letting it go but i am here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
foaming at mouth and I dont like any of you because I have been breeding for years she has not your the liar !!!!!!!!!!sicksl*tkeep your mouth shut
From: "Tim Carter" Add to Address Book Block Sender | Block Domain
Date: 2007/
I know Sherry what you are saying is true. The click is Empress, LoneStar, Sweet and Sassy, Majestic Acres, and WeLoveShihTzus.. Danielle does their web sites and therefore uses it to gain control. If there are others I haven't heard of them as of yet. I do know Danielle is the leader for one told me (not Darci) that Danielle taught us to place "on hold" on a puppy and everyone will want that dog. I don't think most of the click has a lot of material things but more a need for cash. One has gone a little wild., and keeps buying. Danielle is the mentor but has yet to teach the importance of knowing what to look for in pedigrees. Another form of control I think. now come after me little breeder I have been in the game dont think michelle sainz would not supeno you to court whats your name and address she has proof email they said 2 times in writing we will bring the dog to you learn to read stupid go back over email spells it out leave her alone she has had but 1 litter!!!!!!! you sick byat amanda pay up here or in court your call $5,000.00 small claims
Sherry
Mntlsher Rd,Alabama,
U.S.A.
look i say pack them up michelle has no say so she has left this site
#29Consumer Suggestion
Tue, May 08, 2007
none is that what you are scared to put your real name and number.leave michelle alone she said earlier she would not post and she has not .she has spoken to someone who is like sisters to danielle and you keep making it worse buy not letting it go but i am here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
foaming at mouth and I dont like any of you because I have been breeding for years she has not your the liar !!!!!!!!!!sicksl*tkeep your mouth shut
From: "Tim Carter" Add to Address Book Block Sender | Block Domain
Date: 2007/
I know Sherry what you are saying is true. The click is Empress, LoneStar, Sweet and Sassy, Majestic Acres, and WeLoveShihTzus.. Danielle does their web sites and therefore uses it to gain control. If there are others I haven't heard of them as of yet. I do know Danielle is the leader for one told me (not Darci) that Danielle taught us to place "on hold" on a puppy and everyone will want that dog. I don't think most of the click has a lot of material things but more a need for cash. One has gone a little wild., and keeps buying. Danielle is the mentor but has yet to teach the importance of knowing what to look for in pedigrees. Another form of control I think. now come after me little breeder I have been in the game dont think michelle sainz would not supeno you to court whats your name and address she has proof email they said 2 times in writing we will bring the dog to you learn to read stupid go back over email spells it out leave her alone she has had but 1 litter!!!!!!! you sick byat amanda pay up here or in court your call $5,000.00 small claims
Sherry
Mntlsher Rd,Alabama,
U.S.A.
look i say pack them up michelle has no say so she has left this site
#29Consumer Suggestion
Tue, May 08, 2007
none is that what you are scared to put your real name and number.leave michelle alone she said earlier she would not post and she has not .she has spoken to someone who is like sisters to danielle and you keep making it worse buy not letting it go but i am here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
foaming at mouth and I dont like any of you because I have been breeding for years she has not your the liar !!!!!!!!!!sicksl*tkeep your mouth shut
From: "Tim Carter" Add to Address Book Block Sender | Block Domain
Date: 2007/
I know Sherry what you are saying is true. The click is Empress, LoneStar, Sweet and Sassy, Majestic Acres, and WeLoveShihTzus.. Danielle does their web sites and therefore uses it to gain control. If there are others I haven't heard of them as of yet. I do know Danielle is the leader for one told me (not Darci) that Danielle taught us to place "on hold" on a puppy and everyone will want that dog. I don't think most of the click has a lot of material things but more a need for cash. One has gone a little wild., and keeps buying. Danielle is the mentor but has yet to teach the importance of knowing what to look for in pedigrees. Another form of control I think. now come after me little breeder I have been in the game dont think michelle sainz would not supeno you to court whats your name and address she has proof email they said 2 times in writing we will bring the dog to you learn to read stupid go back over email spells it out leave her alone she has had but 1 litter!!!!!!! you sick byat amanda pay up here or in court your call $5,000.00 small claims
Sherry
Mntlsher Rd,Alabama,
U.S.A.
look i say pack them up michelle has no say so she has left this site
#29Consumer Suggestion
Tue, May 08, 2007
none is that what you are scared to put your real name and number.leave michelle alone she said earlier she would not post and she has not .she has spoken to someone who is like sisters to danielle and you keep making it worse buy not letting it go but i am here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
foaming at mouth and I dont like any of you because I have been breeding for years she has not your the liar !!!!!!!!!!sicksl*tkeep your mouth shut
From: "Tim Carter" Add to Address Book Block Sender | Block Domain
Date: 2007/
I know Sherry what you are saying is true. The click is Empress, LoneStar, Sweet and Sassy, Majestic Acres, and WeLoveShihTzus.. Danielle does their web sites and therefore uses it to gain control. If there are others I haven't heard of them as of yet. I do know Danielle is the leader for one told me (not Darci) that Danielle taught us to place "on hold" on a puppy and everyone will want that dog. I don't think most of the click has a lot of material things but more a need for cash. One has gone a little wild., and keeps buying. Danielle is the mentor but has yet to teach the importance of knowing what to look for in pedigrees. Another form of control I think. now come after me little breeder I have been in the game dont think michelle sainz would not supeno you to court whats your name and address she has proof email they said 2 times in writing we will bring the dog to you learn to read stupid go back over email spells it out leave her alone she has had but 1 litter!!!!!!! you sick byat amanda pay up here or in court your call $5,000.00 small claims
Judy
None,Arkansas,
U.S.A.
Now Janice has taken over Michelle **** Body again
#29UPDATE EX-employee responds
Mon, May 07, 2007
I just hope you don't do anything to peebles because her well being is way more important to me than these foolish rhymes.
so the craigs are the one who owes money
if this is craigs writing rhymes you need to be supervising your children instead of letting them mate your dogs.
Janice - Jackson, Alabama
Wow !!! Now Janice has taken over Michelle **** Body !!! The Insane nut forgot what name she was posting under AGAIN !!! LOL !!!
Ok Michelle was it your Janice personality that paid Mr. Craig to drive a 12 hour round trip to bring peebles to you ? Or did you Michelle **** personality forget to tell your Janice personality that one of you were supposed to met Mr. Craig in Jackson , Mississippi that day ? You really need to get all your personalities to agree on a time and date the next time you think about paying someone to drive that far with a dog again ,and round up your other personality Sherry in lake City FL. off the Texas post .
You have so many personalities posting I see why you stay dazed ,and confused. I'm sure you had a brain Fart the day you paid Mr. Craig to drive a 12 hour round trip ,and you were a NO SHOW.
We found a lady in your own state that said you were a no show for her also.She is willing to get her lawyer to send this to the Craig's lawyer as a signed statement as proof of your NO SHOW ,and a pattern of what you are doing to all breeders alone with all her emails from you real & fake names ,and harassment from you .She has already contacted the Sheriff's dept. about you ,and your phone Co.
If you keep up with your slandering of these breeders they will work together ,and stand behind each other in court . All it take is from one lawyer to another with statements, emails, harassment from you to every breeder, plus the fact the you have been turned in to the sheriff's dept. in your own state . The out come for you missy is not looking so good.
Girlie you have messed with too may breeders ,and yes we will pull together, and you will regret ever letting our names roll of you tongue. You have harassed them all ,and it will end with the laugh on you. None of them take your slander lightly ,and you have went way to far in the breeding world. Cutting four small breeders like you have has cut us all. Girlie if you want your a*s wiped for you we are able to do it ,and will be glad to at this point.
keep on Michelle **** ,and all the breeders you have slandered will pool together .They have proved your pattern of slander ,and abuse to these breeders. We will back each other all the way to court . That is not a threat Michelle ****! That is a promise .
Janice
Jackson,Alabama,
U.S.A.
oh please danielle we all know you are the big dog
#29Consumer Suggestion
Mon, May 07, 2007
all dogs end up at danielles but do tell danielle where does your poor dogs go after they either brake their necks from falling from your chicken coupe walk. looks like a pretty far fall but what do you care they have ac show it danielle not the heater dhow ac unit. I will show you mine so why cant you show instead of thinking you are mother goose oh dont worry you think you can get down like that I am from the south thats all these kids do. or if this is craigs writing rhymes you need to be supervising your children instead of letting them mate your dogs.
I just hope you dont do anything to peebles because her well being is way more important to me than these foolish rhymes. Look if you have wire floors like a chicken coupe shoe fits ware it like on your site. so the craigs are the one who owes money I cant help it if danielle got involved bottom line you dont want competition. too bad new breeders arise every day. with way better sites than you and more power to them I have never sold a shihtzu over the internet no need too. I dont own 20 females coming in heat10 at a time. baby MY money dont come from shihtzus it goes to them.
Michelle
Mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
what an idiot grow up and let the adults with some common sense make judgement call mad cow
#29Consumer Suggestion
Mon, May 07, 2007
how retarded who ever is saying this about nebraska and if foaming or bleeding you type like a girl I know that really did have parvo a whole load of dogs die from and I have tons of email where she tried to pull me into her red dog mange situation which she knows is bull. anyway back to the real discussion keep danielle out of this ok? this is about amanda craig not danielle but if you are who I think you are throwing theses thing in dont you dont want me to tell your story of your little house on a little hill that jack built sweetie. anyway As you can see amanda graig ripped me off let her 12 year old mate my dog and yes I did want her to fly no I did not want her given to some man they did not know and he went to jackson WE verbally squashed that sat. morning april 14th remember tornadoes touching down in that county. just like her baseball games changed. it clearly states amanda would bring them her to me. baby for 300.00 bring a bag of dog food too and crate. a real breeder instead of person talking about traveling dogs and thinks this is a joke who could not be a breeder if she tried, knows about shipping. $300.00 is steep with airplane why would I pay over and above what I have flown other dogs for to drive for hours. duh? and everyone knows who writes with??????????????????????????? oh yeah and !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!is we heard you and you had your say on here in january let the big girls talk.You know someones manner in the way they write is all different so we know who you are if you have something to say use your real name. I live in a subdivision we do not act or say the things you are making your self look stupid on here and scaring children.michelle sainz does not have any puppies for sale but you do dont go there and why do you put on other peoples web site to sell all breeders know it. do you think you are smart your spelling sucks. and so do you. grow up the only reason I am on here is that amanda sent out or someone did her emails to breeders and the people who got them will see this I hear breeders are on here all the time. But you need to keep darci and danielles name off this ripoff report because you dont know anything remember you said they forgot you and will not let you in their click.
Tiffany
Theodore,Alabama,
U.S.A.
Michelle Sainz is a Crook . Sold me a puppy with parvo .No refund ,No puppy crook took my money and ran .
#29UPDATE EX-employee responds
Mon, May 07, 2007
I paid you to bring my shihtzu to my house or at least down the street off the interstate? I thought Michelle said the puppy was to FLY ? Now Michelle admitted she Paid the Craigs to travel and she was a NO SHOW?
This lady is a nut case that sold me a puppy with parvo also. She is a crook that will not stand behind her sick unhealthy bred puppies .We lost all money , and the dog . Michelle Sainz is a cold hearted, unethical puppy mill . She hides her puppy mill from the public and will not give a home address. I had to met her also away from her home ?
Michelle Sainz is a Mad dog on the loose ! s****.> NOW this mad dog Still s****.> While still s****.> Now the mad dog still s****.> Good luck to anyone she sniffs out . Part Bloodhound and part Pitt Bull ! Answers to any old name but mostly Michelle Sainz. Watch you may be NEXT !
Tiffany
Theodore,Alabama,
U.S.A.
Michelle Sainz sold me a puppy that died of parvo
#29UPDATE EX-employee responds
Mon, May 07, 2007
This lady is a nut case that sold me a puppy with parvo also. She is a crook that will not stand behind her sick unhealthy bred puppies .We lost all money , and the dog . Michelle Sainz is a cold hearted, unethical puppy mill . She hides her puppy mill from the public ,and will not give a home address. I had to met her away from her home also?
Michelle Sainz is a Mad dog on the loose ! s****.> NOW this mad dog Still s****.> While still s****.> Now the mad dog still s****.> Good luck to anyone she sniffs out . Part Bloodhound and part Pitt Bull ! Answers to any old name but mostly Michelle Sainz. Watch out you may be NEXT !!!
Michelle
Mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
here is your other excuses i had fever could not meet and then i told you sraight why should i put on plane i do not like to drive
#29Author of original report
Sun, May 06, 2007
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:55 AM
> > > To: Amanda Craig
> > > Subject: RE: RE: STILL FULL
> > >
> > > also look at this from my point of view you said you travel all the time now you cannont because of childrens schedule. i am sorry if you cannot send pedigree and accept partial payment and payment in full when i recieve pebbles this transaction cannot take place. all of your emails are locked where no body can see them why? now you find a mans number at first you said he wAS FRIEND OF YOUR HUSBAND NOW HE IS A CARD FROM VET.
THIS ALL SEEMS STRANGE TO ME AND ALL IS NOY ADDING UP SORRY I FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE WASTED ALOT OF MY TIME. YOU ARE TELLING ME 2 DIFFERENT STORIES IN A MATTER OF 24 HOURS. I DONT FEEL THIS TRANSACTION IS ON THE UP AND UP. I HAVE MORE THAN ONE REASON TO BELIEVE YOU ARE TRYING TO SCAM ME written by michelle sainz
> > > >
> > > > From: "Amanda Craig"
> > > > Date: 2007/04/12 Thu PM 12:15:17 EDT
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: RE: RE: STILL FULL
> > > >
> > > > WE SEEM TO ALWAYS BUSY WITH THE KIDS. I HAVE THREE, AND THEY ARE CONSTANTLY ON THE GO. THEY DO BASEBALL, FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL, CROSS COUNTRY, AND RODEO. IF WE HAVE A FREE WEEKEND, WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH OURSELVES. WE HAVE BEEN LUCKY BECAUSE WE HAVE JUST BEEN HAVING BASEBALL PRACTICE, BUT NOW BASEBALL GAMES ARE STARTING.
I THOUGHT WE COULD HANDLE BRINGING THEM TO YOU UNTIL I FOUND OUT THERE WERE TWO GAMES IN DIFFERENT TOWNS. MY MOM WILL HELP ME GET THEM TO THEIR GAMES, SO CHUCK CAN BRING HER TO YOU. I HATE WHEN WE FIND OUT ABOUT GAMES AT THE LAST MINUTE. ONE OF THE BOYS HAS PRACTICE TONIGHT AND THE OTHER ONE HAS PRACTICE TOMORROW NIGHT, THEN BOTH HAVE GAMES SATURDAY. WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAD TWO NIGHTS OFF THIS WEEK THOUGH BECAUSE IT RAINED ON TUESDAY NIGHT.
> > > >
AMANDA
now did you read bringing them to you should i continue amanda why you stated thenm instead of her you was bringing her to me for 300.00 truth is coming out amanda you have stolen my money and now impregnated my shihtzu no you will not get baway with this i hope all people that was sent emails reads these and see she more than likely lied to you too and edited.
her husband loves to drive she says. I had 2 deaths in my family in that week and this witch was playing me. GOD knows I forgive that you are greedy but I want my money and my puppies. as akc says whever the dog belongs too at time of conception and I will be contacting them about this matter also how she was paid in full. I have never made deposits I dont have too. If I want it I buy it.
she was my shihtzu. need more proof people where she tells on her self because i got them. my number is xxx I have sold 5 puppies in my life as pets only call me and we will 3 way ckc and you can see. I have nothing to hide nothing at all.
Michelle
Mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
ok amanda one by one emails will be posted
#29Author of original report
Sun, May 06, 2007
Amanda Craig" Add to Address
Date: 2007/05/02 Wed AM 11:25:02 EDT
To:
Subject: RE: FW: DOGS
WE HAVE HONORED OUR PART OF OUR AGREEMENT, BUT YOU ARE NOT. YOU CONTINUE TO HARRASS ME AFTER YOU AGREED NOT TO. YOU SENT A LETTER STATING YOU WOULD STOP CONTACTING ME AFTER YOU RECEIVED THE $720.00 BACK. YOU HAVE RECEIVED THE $720.00, SO OUR PART HAS BEEN UPHELD, NOW IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO UPHOLD YOUR PART OF THE AGREEMENT. ALL YOU PAID WAS FOR THE SHIPPING WHICH WAS DONE, THE DOG WAS JUST NOT PICKED UP BY YOU.
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CONTACT ME AGAIN OR APPROPRIATE ACTIONS WILL BE TAKEN.
honored your part then why is my shihtzu not here. I paid you to bring my shihtzu to my house or at least down the street off the interstate. me harrassing you no I have tmobile bills where your husband harrassed me night and day late night too all on my phone bill. no that little letter to yahoo was null and void when your husband again called and tried the bait and switch trick well we got your shihtzu pregnant so we are keeping her no duh you yourself said in earlier email i have 2 chocolates and I do not intend to sell either one so see you thought I would be happy with puppy by the way I never got picture of peebles nor pedigree only promises that she is going to send tomorrow always tomorrow. SO emails will keep being posted like you did me to other breeders why would a breeder who I dont know call to tell what you was up too? you want people to see our email here it goes........
Michelle
Mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
yes amanda I do want any names expecially the one in ohio
#29Author of original report
Sun, May 06, 2007
remember the email let me guess charles or chuck craig when delivered the dog in ohio yes I want the number or better yet bring her to court with you and all your gas expenses through state after state. ok you was avoiding something here. gas is $3.00 a gallon and when I come to court I will call 20 breeders and ask how much to ship my puppy yo my town and guess what they will say amanda craig 275.00 plane ticket now if we had agreed on me saving some deposit money totally different then I would see well michelle only paid 175.00 for shipping what did she expect. when I walk in the court room my ducks will be in a row will yours and by the way your own friend singing like a canary.
how you 2 are always fighting hard to get along with pushing your children around. I can imagine what you said or did to your girl that got my dog pregnant. email amanda sent is up there she sent that and federally wire fraud. and chuck graig when I stae I will leave you alne and you leave me alone that means you contact me no more also not just one way. you 2 knew I am very nice person and took advantage and got danielle and me fighting for your greed. I would have never known her if it was not for the way you stole our money and held it for weeks everyday wondering am I even getting my money back.
oh my doctor knows and there will be a letter to judge about that too. people if there is no shipping you do not pay for shipping get it. no deposit no return. ON the bright side never been to arkansas. and to think on someone eleses expense sounds lovely. if any one out there knows some beautiful sites on the way to dardanielle please let me know.
Michelle
Mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
so there you go I drove and you called and said we have a game cant make it why are your kids more important than on my weekend my daughter had 102. f
#29Author of original report
Sun, May 06, 2007
see amanda if these people on ripoff can figure it out so will the judge with ease. I am looking forward to it and I know so much about you guys from your town of 4,ooo crooks get bad names quick. I have had 2 speeding tickets in 39 years never been to jail.
I am no crook but you are money hungry ok thats it now everybreeder who got email I hope this was not edited. its ok for her to change dates and come next weekend or next like all I want to do is sit around and wait for call to pick up shihtzu. I was willing to meet him maybe 20 min up the road only because I dont want them knowing where I live. The was going to ship my 1,020.00 shihtzu with a man whos card he found at auction thats why I said no wait I ll meet you up the street but do not give him my dog because she was mine then they would have said well she was yours you agreed to let him drive her your dog. but let her get puppies in tummy and she is theirs. what pathetic backstabbers. thats it people you know what time it is with these people figure it out and do math from here this is getting old.
puppyfind arkansas with red wagon she cant even sell chocolate shihtzus lol. so she tries to con me into it. you have real class and you should have never said danielles name and got her involved you should have said someone we know just like you dont know who at police dept in your town said about you. you shall see you shall see My mama did not raise any fools
Michelle
Mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
here is the email amanda sent me about why i needed to send money asap
#29Consumer Suggestion
Sun, May 06, 2007
ok amanda here is the email I am sure you edited before you sent to 10 to 20 breeders this is what she said
From: "Amanda "
> Date: 2007/04/12 Thu PM 01:43:46 EDT
> To:
> Subject: RE: RE: STILL FULL
>
> WHY WOULD I TRY TO SCAM YOU? I EMAIL YOU FROM MY JOB WHICH IS A MEDICAL BILLING OFFICE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MY EMAILS BEING LOCKED. THIS IS A WORK EMAIL, NOT MY PERSONAL ONE. I'M SO SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY. I DON'T BELIEVE I EVER TOLD YOU THAT MAN WAS A FRIEND OF MY HUSBANDS. I
TOLD YOU HE FOUND A MAN WHO WOULD DELIVER HER. HE DOES IT FOR A LIVING.
MY HUSBAND TOOK OUR HORSE TO GET A CURRENT COGGINS ON HER, AND HE SAW THE MAN'S CARD THERE. WE DO TRAVEL ALL OF THE TIME!!!! WITH MY
CHILDREN!!!! WE TRAVEL ALL OVER THE STATE WITH THEIR JUNIOR RODEO.
WE DON'T JUST TRAVEL TO TRAVEL. WE ARE ALWAYS ON THE ROAD WITH MY KIDS SPORTS!!!! MY HUSBAND HAS DELIVERED ONE PUPPY TO ST LOUIS. WOULD YOU
LIKE THAT LADIES PHONE NUMBER TO VERIFY THAT I AM NOT TRYING TO SCAM YOU. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO WANTED TO WIRE THE MONEY TO MY ACCT ASAP
(LAST WEEKEND) SO I WOULDN'T SELL HER TO ANYONE ELSE. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PAYING BEFORE ONE IS SHIPPED AND BEFORE ONE IS DELIVERED????
I DON'T KNOW YOU EITHER, SO I WOULD LIKE THE MONEY BEFORE MY HUSBAND DRIVES THAT FAR AND NO ONE SHOWS UP. THEN WE WOULD HAVE DRIVEN THAT
FAR FOR NOTHING. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO BUY THIS LITTLE GIRL, BUT IF YOU DON'T I DON'T CARE. I WILL KEEP HER.
I STILL CANNOT BELIEVE I AM TRYING TO SCAM YOU. I HAVE TRIED TO ACCOMADATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANTED. I AM SORRY THAT I PUT MY CHILDREN BEFORE MY OTHER THINGS IN MY LIFE. I AM SORRY THAT THE COACH DIDN'T CALL ME UNTIL LAST NIGHT TO TELL ME ABOUT PRACTICE. I HAVE GIVEN YOU EVERYTHING YOU HAVE ASKED FOR. I WAS JUST GOING TO SEND A COPY OF THE PEDIGREES WHEN PEBBLES WAS DELIVERED. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS SUCH A BIG DEAL. I BROUGHT THEM TO WORK WITH ME TO MAKE COPIES TO SEND TO
YOU.
>
> AMANDA
she wanted to give a man my dog so then she could say well he stole her you are one scam after another. oh there is more this is when i confronted her and was calling off deal but breeder i bought my boy from said they were honest people huh? yeah real honest. I have been to doctor and my daughter has been sick but you will not get away with this yes i wrote craig about no contact again but he breeched it when he tried to sell me puppies and told me my shihtzu is pregnant.
I am still waiting on pics of peebles and sir to my puppies amanda, so give my 1,020.00 shihtzu to man you find card in vet too. no amanda you are a rip off plain and simple everyone needs to know truth and if you sent emails out about us now they can see who you are breeders now when another breeder is trying to cheat and I know they have figured you out. more emails to come amanda send me pics of peebles send pedigree send anything no you planned to bait and switch the whole time didnt you other wise why all pics of the puppies on puppy find before your husband asked me did I want them 2 cons desperate for money and then drug your so called friend in it. I will get justice in court missy if that was a check instead of wire fraud you could cash it. oh $5,000.00 is small claims there. I dont stay in motels honey I stay in hotels. police dept is even aware of you guys.
Michelle
Mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
here is the email amanda sent me about why i needed to send money asap
#29Consumer Suggestion
Sun, May 06, 2007
ok amanda here is the email I am sure you edited before you sent to 10 to 20 breeders this is what she said
From: "Amanda "
> Date: 2007/04/12 Thu PM 01:43:46 EDT
> To:
> Subject: RE: RE: STILL FULL
>
> WHY WOULD I TRY TO SCAM YOU? I EMAIL YOU FROM MY JOB WHICH IS A MEDICAL BILLING OFFICE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MY EMAILS BEING LOCKED. THIS IS A WORK EMAIL, NOT MY PERSONAL ONE. I'M SO SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY. I DON'T BELIEVE I EVER TOLD YOU THAT MAN WAS A FRIEND OF MY HUSBANDS. I
TOLD YOU HE FOUND A MAN WHO WOULD DELIVER HER. HE DOES IT FOR A LIVING.
MY HUSBAND TOOK OUR HORSE TO GET A CURRENT COGGINS ON HER, AND HE SAW THE MAN'S CARD THERE. WE DO TRAVEL ALL OF THE TIME!!!! WITH MY
CHILDREN!!!! WE TRAVEL ALL OVER THE STATE WITH THEIR JUNIOR RODEO.
WE DON'T JUST TRAVEL TO TRAVEL. WE ARE ALWAYS ON THE ROAD WITH MY KIDS SPORTS!!!! MY HUSBAND HAS DELIVERED ONE PUPPY TO ST LOUIS. WOULD YOU
LIKE THAT LADIES PHONE NUMBER TO VERIFY THAT I AM NOT TRYING TO SCAM YOU. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO WANTED TO WIRE THE MONEY TO MY ACCT ASAP
(LAST WEEKEND) SO I WOULDN'T SELL HER TO ANYONE ELSE. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PAYING BEFORE ONE IS SHIPPED AND BEFORE ONE IS DELIVERED????
I DON'T KNOW YOU EITHER, SO I WOULD LIKE THE MONEY BEFORE MY HUSBAND DRIVES THAT FAR AND NO ONE SHOWS UP. THEN WE WOULD HAVE DRIVEN THAT
FAR FOR NOTHING. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO BUY THIS LITTLE GIRL, BUT IF YOU DON'T I DON'T CARE. I WILL KEEP HER.
I STILL CANNOT BELIEVE I AM TRYING TO SCAM YOU. I HAVE TRIED TO ACCOMADATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANTED. I AM SORRY THAT I PUT MY CHILDREN BEFORE MY OTHER THINGS IN MY LIFE. I AM SORRY THAT THE COACH DIDN'T CALL ME UNTIL LAST NIGHT TO TELL ME ABOUT PRACTICE. I HAVE GIVEN YOU EVERYTHING YOU HAVE ASKED FOR. I WAS JUST GOING TO SEND A COPY OF THE PEDIGREES WHEN PEBBLES WAS DELIVERED. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS SUCH A BIG DEAL. I BROUGHT THEM TO WORK WITH ME TO MAKE COPIES TO SEND TO
YOU.
>
> AMANDA
she wanted to give a man my dog so then she could say well he stole her you are one scam after another. oh there is more this is when i confronted her and was calling off deal but breeder i bought my boy from said they were honest people huh? yeah real honest. I have been to doctor and my daughter has been sick but you will not get away with this yes i wrote craig about no contact again but he breeched it when he tried to sell me puppies and told me my shihtzu is pregnant.
I am still waiting on pics of peebles and sir to my puppies amanda, so give my 1,020.00 shihtzu to man you find card in vet too. no amanda you are a rip off plain and simple everyone needs to know truth and if you sent emails out about us now they can see who you are breeders now when another breeder is trying to cheat and I know they have figured you out. more emails to come amanda send me pics of peebles send pedigree send anything no you planned to bait and switch the whole time didnt you other wise why all pics of the puppies on puppy find before your husband asked me did I want them 2 cons desperate for money and then drug your so called friend in it. I will get justice in court missy if that was a check instead of wire fraud you could cash it. oh $5,000.00 is small claims there. I dont stay in motels honey I stay in hotels. police dept is even aware of you guys.
Michelle
Mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
here is the email amanda sent me about why i needed to send money asap
#29Consumer Suggestion
Sun, May 06, 2007
ok amanda here is the email I am sure you edited before you sent to 10 to 20 breeders this is what she said
From: "Amanda "
> Date: 2007/04/12 Thu PM 01:43:46 EDT
> To:
> Subject: RE: RE: STILL FULL
>
> WHY WOULD I TRY TO SCAM YOU? I EMAIL YOU FROM MY JOB WHICH IS A MEDICAL BILLING OFFICE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MY EMAILS BEING LOCKED. THIS IS A WORK EMAIL, NOT MY PERSONAL ONE. I'M SO SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY. I DON'T BELIEVE I EVER TOLD YOU THAT MAN WAS A FRIEND OF MY HUSBANDS. I
TOLD YOU HE FOUND A MAN WHO WOULD DELIVER HER. HE DOES IT FOR A LIVING.
MY HUSBAND TOOK OUR HORSE TO GET A CURRENT COGGINS ON HER, AND HE SAW THE MAN'S CARD THERE. WE DO TRAVEL ALL OF THE TIME!!!! WITH MY
CHILDREN!!!! WE TRAVEL ALL OVER THE STATE WITH THEIR JUNIOR RODEO.
WE DON'T JUST TRAVEL TO TRAVEL. WE ARE ALWAYS ON THE ROAD WITH MY KIDS SPORTS!!!! MY HUSBAND HAS DELIVERED ONE PUPPY TO ST LOUIS. WOULD YOU
LIKE THAT LADIES PHONE NUMBER TO VERIFY THAT I AM NOT TRYING TO SCAM YOU. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO WANTED TO WIRE THE MONEY TO MY ACCT ASAP
(LAST WEEKEND) SO I WOULDN'T SELL HER TO ANYONE ELSE. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PAYING BEFORE ONE IS SHIPPED AND BEFORE ONE IS DELIVERED????
I DON'T KNOW YOU EITHER, SO I WOULD LIKE THE MONEY BEFORE MY HUSBAND DRIVES THAT FAR AND NO ONE SHOWS UP. THEN WE WOULD HAVE DRIVEN THAT
FAR FOR NOTHING. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO BUY THIS LITTLE GIRL, BUT IF YOU DON'T I DON'T CARE. I WILL KEEP HER.
I STILL CANNOT BELIEVE I AM TRYING TO SCAM YOU. I HAVE TRIED TO ACCOMADATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANTED. I AM SORRY THAT I PUT MY CHILDREN BEFORE MY OTHER THINGS IN MY LIFE. I AM SORRY THAT THE COACH DIDN'T CALL ME UNTIL LAST NIGHT TO TELL ME ABOUT PRACTICE. I HAVE GIVEN YOU EVERYTHING YOU HAVE ASKED FOR. I WAS JUST GOING TO SEND A COPY OF THE PEDIGREES WHEN PEBBLES WAS DELIVERED. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS SUCH A BIG DEAL. I BROUGHT THEM TO WORK WITH ME TO MAKE COPIES TO SEND TO
YOU.
>
> AMANDA
she wanted to give a man my dog so then she could say well he stole her you are one scam after another. oh there is more this is when i confronted her and was calling off deal but breeder i bought my boy from said they were honest people huh? yeah real honest. I have been to doctor and my daughter has been sick but you will not get away with this yes i wrote craig about no contact again but he breeched it when he tried to sell me puppies and told me my shihtzu is pregnant.
I am still waiting on pics of peebles and sir to my puppies amanda, so give my 1,020.00 shihtzu to man you find card in vet too. no amanda you are a rip off plain and simple everyone needs to know truth and if you sent emails out about us now they can see who you are breeders now when another breeder is trying to cheat and I know they have figured you out. more emails to come amanda send me pics of peebles send pedigree send anything no you planned to bait and switch the whole time didnt you other wise why all pics of the puppies on puppy find before your husband asked me did I want them 2 cons desperate for money and then drug your so called friend in it. I will get justice in court missy if that was a check instead of wire fraud you could cash it. oh $5,000.00 is small claims there. I dont stay in motels honey I stay in hotels. police dept is even aware of you guys.
Michelle
Mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
here is the email amanda sent me about why i needed to send money asap
#29Consumer Suggestion
Sun, May 06, 2007
ok amanda here is the email I am sure you edited before you sent to 10 to 20 breeders this is what she said
From: "Amanda "
> Date: 2007/04/12 Thu PM 01:43:46 EDT
> To:
> Subject: RE: RE: STILL FULL
>
> WHY WOULD I TRY TO SCAM YOU? I EMAIL YOU FROM MY JOB WHICH IS A MEDICAL BILLING OFFICE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MY EMAILS BEING LOCKED. THIS IS A WORK EMAIL, NOT MY PERSONAL ONE. I'M SO SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY. I DON'T BELIEVE I EVER TOLD YOU THAT MAN WAS A FRIEND OF MY HUSBANDS. I
TOLD YOU HE FOUND A MAN WHO WOULD DELIVER HER. HE DOES IT FOR A LIVING.
MY HUSBAND TOOK OUR HORSE TO GET A CURRENT COGGINS ON HER, AND HE SAW THE MAN'S CARD THERE. WE DO TRAVEL ALL OF THE TIME!!!! WITH MY
CHILDREN!!!! WE TRAVEL ALL OVER THE STATE WITH THEIR JUNIOR RODEO.
WE DON'T JUST TRAVEL TO TRAVEL. WE ARE ALWAYS ON THE ROAD WITH MY KIDS SPORTS!!!! MY HUSBAND HAS DELIVERED ONE PUPPY TO ST LOUIS. WOULD YOU
LIKE THAT LADIES PHONE NUMBER TO VERIFY THAT I AM NOT TRYING TO SCAM YOU. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO WANTED TO WIRE THE MONEY TO MY ACCT ASAP
(LAST WEEKEND) SO I WOULDN'T SELL HER TO ANYONE ELSE. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PAYING BEFORE ONE IS SHIPPED AND BEFORE ONE IS DELIVERED????
I DON'T KNOW YOU EITHER, SO I WOULD LIKE THE MONEY BEFORE MY HUSBAND DRIVES THAT FAR AND NO ONE SHOWS UP. THEN WE WOULD HAVE DRIVEN THAT
FAR FOR NOTHING. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO BUY THIS LITTLE GIRL, BUT IF YOU DON'T I DON'T CARE. I WILL KEEP HER.
I STILL CANNOT BELIEVE I AM TRYING TO SCAM YOU. I HAVE TRIED TO ACCOMADATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANTED. I AM SORRY THAT I PUT MY CHILDREN BEFORE MY OTHER THINGS IN MY LIFE. I AM SORRY THAT THE COACH DIDN'T CALL ME UNTIL LAST NIGHT TO TELL ME ABOUT PRACTICE. I HAVE GIVEN YOU EVERYTHING YOU HAVE ASKED FOR. I WAS JUST GOING TO SEND A COPY OF THE PEDIGREES WHEN PEBBLES WAS DELIVERED. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS SUCH A BIG DEAL. I BROUGHT THEM TO WORK WITH ME TO MAKE COPIES TO SEND TO
YOU.
>
> AMANDA
she wanted to give a man my dog so then she could say well he stole her you are one scam after another. oh there is more this is when i confronted her and was calling off deal but breeder i bought my boy from said they were honest people huh? yeah real honest. I have been to doctor and my daughter has been sick but you will not get away with this yes i wrote craig about no contact again but he breeched it when he tried to sell me puppies and told me my shihtzu is pregnant.
I am still waiting on pics of peebles and sir to my puppies amanda, so give my 1,020.00 shihtzu to man you find card in vet too. no amanda you are a rip off plain and simple everyone needs to know truth and if you sent emails out about us now they can see who you are breeders now when another breeder is trying to cheat and I know they have figured you out. more emails to come amanda send me pics of peebles send pedigree send anything no you planned to bait and switch the whole time didnt you other wise why all pics of the puppies on puppy find before your husband asked me did I want them 2 cons desperate for money and then drug your so called friend in it. I will get justice in court missy if that was a check instead of wire fraud you could cash it. oh $5,000.00 is small claims there. I dont stay in motels honey I stay in hotels. police dept is even aware of you guys.
Michelle
Mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
here is where i question and never get answers
#29Author of original report
Sat, May 05, 2007
this is right after amanda posted i wrote back because she kept telling me I will send pedigree I will send pictures nothing but puppy pics another red flag but like I stated before I was going to pull out called a breeder in arkansas that I bought my ch. male from she said these people where a ok
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:39 PM
To: Amanda
Subject: Re: DOGS
alecia when you get the health certificate for your female did you have this female as a puppy? did you see her mom i know her dad and what
other colors was in the litter or siblings with pebbles? who was pebbles mom? also does she have ingenual or umbilical hernia on pebbles or her
mom? if you did have pebbles since her whelping how many pups and how many chocolates. you have gorgeous pic of males do you have anymore of
your girls? how many adult females do you have that are chocolates? if you could please take time to answer each question i would thank you
>
> From: "Amanda "
> Date: 2007/04/11 Wed PM 12:03:52 EDT
> To:
> Subject: DOGS
>
> thing is she has no health certificate why else would a person drive when the airport is 1 and ahalf hours away. I paid 275.00 for a crate,healthcertificte and plane ticket for less than the craigs charged me for shipping and did not deliver.I was very polite as usual with this lady she still answered no questions because she sent pics with this email of puppyfind puppies. all I wanted was my shihtzu instead she was mated by 12 year old and they want to keep deposit for shipping. what did they ship? I never recieved anything nothing. oh mary said you was repramanded at work but she did not want the owners name disclosed we have it and he will be contacted monday morning. when I wrote puppy find it goes straight to harris co. so amanda do the right thing 300.00 plus all puppies but one for stud service
Michelle
Mobile,Alabama,
U.S.A.
she says she has 2 chocoltes here
#29Author of original report
Sat, May 05, 2007
amananda this is where the red flag when way in the air when you wrote me this is when you told the truth once
From: "Amanda "
> Date: 2007/04/11 Wed PM 06:01:01 EDT
> To:
> Subject: FW: DOGS
>
> I HAVE HAD PEBBLES SINCE BIRTH. SHE IS OUT OF ROSIE AND BEAUMONT JUST
> LIKE THE YOUNGER PUPPIES. SHE IS OUT OF A LITTER OF 6- 3 CHOCOLATES AND
> 3 RED/BRINDLE WITH BLACK MASKS. NO HERNIAS!! I ONLY HAVE 2 ADULT
> FEMALES THAT ARE CHOCOLATE BUT I DON'T WANT TO SELL THEM. I REALLY NEED
> TO KNOW SOMETHING TODAY, SO I CAN MAKE AN APPOINTMENT AT THE VETS OFFICE
> BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE TO DO IT.
so see everyone she had no intention on selling me her 1 year old chocolate with this email puppy pics followed and then she told me she could sell hairlipped shihtzu. Which I personally have never seen. more emails to come amanda puppyfind upgrade in arkansas bailey