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  • Report:  #84692

Complaint Review: Moneytree Mortgage

Americas Best Home Loans Company Ripoff Internet Scammers at it Again Woodstock Georgia

  • Reported By:
    Acworth Georgia
  • Submitted:
    Sat, March 20, 2004
  • Updated:
    Fri, September 03, 2004
  • Moneytree Mortgage
    665 Molly Lane ,
    Woodstock, Georgia
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    770-928-9205
  • Category:
*Consumer Comment: I have nothing but praise for Moneytree Mortgage *Consumer Comment: bald-face lies on the internet should carry more of a penalty *Author of original report: Wow, two whole satisfied customers! *UPDATE Employee: ENCORE!! ENCORE!! - GREAT RESPONSE!!!!!!!!! ...POLICE AND FBI CAME IN WITH GUNS BLAZING AND RAMSACKED THE PLACE *Consumer Comment: This is still a free country *Consumer Comment: This is still a free country *Consumer Comment: This is still a free country *Consumer Comment: This is still a free country *UPDATE EX-employee responds: Pay Attention, Pam! If everyone else including myself is wrong, then why are the FEDs involved *Consumer Comment: On Jason's side all the way!! *Consumer Comment: MONEY TREE RIPPED ME OFF TOO... *Consumer Comment: Liars, BS testimonials *Consumer Comment: Anonymous equals spineless *Consumer Comment: MTM Scams *Consumer Comment: MTM Woodstock and Kansas are the same and they are all liars *Consumer Comment: Defender Jason Bravo *Consumer Comment: Witch-hunting hysterics?!?! *Consumer Comment: Mission accomplished you can't and won't learn from your own mistakes *Consumer Comment: People who know nothing should say nothing.... *Consumer Comment: oh look pathetic pam speaks! *Consumer Comment: oh look pathetic pam speaks! *Consumer Comment: oh look pathetic pam speaks! *Consumer Comment: oh look pathetic pam speaks! *Consumer Suggestion: Pamela....you are an absolute trip! ((Frank, cannot figure out if the are ranking on the Victim)))

Hello there fellow victims, this is your allie & friend Jason former employee & victim of Moneytree Mortgage. I just wanted to let everyone know that are two favorite internet scammers are back at it again! That's right but you might better know them now as a slightly different name. You can check them out at www.americasbesthomeloans.com

Their new rip-off facility is located at 8292 HWY 92 Suite#120 just around the corner from the last dump, you'll have to look pretty close since there isn't any signs for advertisment.

In case any of you would like to congratulate them personally on their recent endevour you can do so by calling (770)928-9205. I am certain that they managed to open this new company up under Randy & Todds mothers name Leslie Webster. If you have any trouble trying to reach them, either it's after hours or they're too busy closing loans(collecting app fees) you might want to try these alternate numbers.

Randy's home #(770)704-1798 if he's in between closings or the office(dodging complaints & police) you might want to try him on his cell phone at (678)231-1851. I'm sure that Mr Webster doesn't mind making himself more excessable for his clients(victims) because that's who he really cares(less) about.

I would expect that Randy Webster will use his mortgage(checkfraud) experience to help(screw) as many people as he has in the past. I wouldn't expect anything less from the man(crook)!

I just want to also let you know that I had the pleasure of sitting down with the SR detective from the Woodstock police Department Dan King 3/18. He has brought to my attention that the state & federal departments are very excited about Mr Websters new venture. So much so, that they are all working together to send Randy & Todd Webster on an all-inclusive trip very soon. They've even arranged for a special guest apperance from the local F.B.I to deliver the details(indictments) personally!

If either Todd or Randy are reading this right now, I want you know I wasn't trying to spoil the surprise just wanted to let you know to pack lightly! I feel that no two people have earned this trip more than you two(b******s). Besides after all the help(scamming) the two of you have been doing for your clients(victims) all over the country it's the least the government should do in return.

At this time I want you know that I personally will be happy to help watch(seize) your personal property while your away. I hope that the two of you take this much deserved vacation to reflect & relax.

The two of you will soon get to see what it's like to not be able to sleep at night, while the rest of us go on with our lives. Randy, let's see you try to buy your way out of the Governments court room. Statistics show they have a 98% conviction rate. Which means your batting average is 2%. I suggest learning a trade, since you won't be closing loans or selling homes anymore. Not like you did anyway!

Maybe you could help stamp out all us victims license plates someday! Possibly consider landscaping, since you'll have experience in breaking bigger stones into little ones!

Jason
Acworth, Georgia
U.S.A.

24 Updates & Rebuttals


Nicole

Franklinton,
North Carolina,
U.S.A.

Pamela....you are an absolute trip! ((Frank, cannot figure out if the are ranking on the Victim)))

#25Consumer Suggestion

Thu, September 02, 2004

I am so delighted that you things worked out for you and your experience with MTM. However, it did not work out for hundreds of us even though we did all of the right things, gave up our application fees, and did as instructed by this rip off company. It just so happens that this company does not do as they say they will. Trust me Pam, if this company did to you what it did to us you would be mighty upset yourself.

OKAY...here's the new juice. I went to the new eHomes (americasbesthomeloans.com); aka: Money Tree Mortgage, website. I filled out an application. I actually recieved a response from non other than....RANDY WEBSTER!!! This took place in June of 2004. Now, let us not forget that this company has had their license revoked in the state of North Carolina. Check out Randy's response...You'll love it!!!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dear Rebecca,

Thank you for taking the time to complete our online mortgage application. I have received your request. After careful review I have found that I can assist you with this loan. I understand a home loan is one of the most significant decisions most people make. It is with respect to this fact that I would like to extend my appreciation for your trust. Before moving forward I would like to take this opportunity to explain to you the benefits of working with eHome and what can be expected during your mortgage experience.

eHome works with all clients regardless of their credit backgrounds. We make the commitment to work with each client for as long as is necessary to obtain their mortgage. Each client will receive detailed guidance on how they can improve their credit rating. Improving your credit is the key to obtaining the best mortgage with the best rates.

eHome will draft your personalized loan documents, which consist of anywhere from 15 21 pages, and e-mail them to you for your review. This is one more step that eHome takes in order to make your loan experience less stressful.

It is important to note that eHome will put a tremendous amount of time; effort and resources into helping you obtain your loan. Please remember that YOU are the deciding factor in your loan approval. We respectfully ask that only serious borrowers move forward at this time.

Due to the complexity of most loans and the varying programs that are available to you, it is important that I be able to speak with you right away. You are under no obligation to accept any offer that I may present to you. Please contact me as soon as possible to begin your loan process. I can be reached at 770-874-7021 or by email at randy@eHomemtg.com.

Randy Webster
Loan Officer
eHome Mortgage
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DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR TO ANY OF THE OTHER VICTIMS ALREADY HIT???!!!

This company is a joke! They will tell you anything to get that app fee in their hands. Now keep in mind Pam....they have not only a bogus name but a social security number....and doesn't it sound as though they have really checked me out and by gosh!...they have concluded that yes, we can send you the documents and you can return them...with your application fee of course!! Hahahahahahahaha. Pam, go to hell!


Beverly

Ariton,
Alabama,
U.S.A.

People who know nothing should say nothing....

#25Consumer Comment

Thu, September 02, 2004

Number one, the ONLY reason you p*** us off Pamela, is not WHAT you say neccessarily, but the way you attack the people who have been wronged, and taking up for the criminals who have wronged us! Not to mention the way you blame the VICTIMS who have been scammed by a fraudulant company for not lying down and taking it. Instead they have chosen to stand up for themselves and others to make sure it never happens again. At least not by this same so-called mortgage company! So don't flatter yourself by thinking your words can anger or hurt us. We have been angered and hurt far more than what you could possibly dish out. Number two, how the h-ll would you know if things haven't or won't work out for us? You don't know s--t!

As a matter of fact, we DID close on our house over four months ago, with a LEGITIMATE mortgage company! So if we were so bad, and it was OUR fault as to why MTM wouldn't close on a house for us as you say it is, then why would another mortgage company close us in less than five weeks, start to finish? Especially a well known company who has been in the business for over 50 YEARS!!!!

And last but not least, yes we have all made mistakes in our lifetime, some were made more than once. And they were all definitely learned from. Just like we have learned to stand up for what we believe is right, and what we know is wrong. And that is exactly what we're doing.
And by the way, if MTM is such a great company who has done nothing wrong, then why are there so many complaints against them? Why have the owners been arrested and charged with over 16 felonies?

Why is the FBI involved? There are legitimate mortgage companies who have to turn people down for loans every day, and yet they don't have hundreds of complaints against them. They don't have felonies, and they certainly don't have the FBI on them! So tell me, how is that MTM is so innocent and all of us are so wrong? Can you answer these questions for me and everyone else?
Or can you FINALLY admit that you DON'T know the FACTS, and can only spew venom and hatred at people who disagree with you?


John

Flomaton,
Alabama,
U.S.A.

oh look pathetic pam speaks!

#25Consumer Comment

Thu, September 02, 2004

Pam,

The only pathetic loser is you.I wish that for once you snobish, penny pintching, retards would get in the other guys shoes. I bet you havent worked a day in your life! as a matter of fact you are probably some relation to the Great Randini. And you probably got a cut from him.Yeah i admit from my mistake,but at the same time, I WANT JUSTICE!

Lets take for example. Someone came to Siminole and told you that they can get you a loan to buy a house, your dream home.You bust your hump every day, and you have Arthritis to boot, but you belive the Shister and you give him the 300, 300 that could be going to things you NEED! he doenst give you anything in return and you try to gett the money back and he aint there.

HOW WOULD YOU FEEL? Let me guess the Rich Educated Pam, wouldnt let anything like this happen cause she suddenly became GOD! She cant error and she has never lost money, SWEETY WHEN YOU LOSE EVERYTHING YOU OWN, THEN YOU COME JOIN THE WITCH HUNTER CLUB, TILL THEN, GET A CLUE. THIS IS A WEB SITE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT JUSTICE AND THEY AINT BUYING INTO THE MEANINGLESS DRIBBLE THAT COMES OUT OF THAT CAKE HOLE YOU CALL A BRAIN!

Go back to your little dream world and live happily with Randy,Leave us "Witch hunters" alone and let us see this scum fall.. oh yeah one more thing, breaks my heart to think you from the south.


John

Flomaton,
Alabama,
U.S.A.

oh look pathetic pam speaks!

#25Consumer Comment

Thu, September 02, 2004

Pam,

The only pathetic loser is you.I wish that for once you snobish, penny pintching, retards would get in the other guys shoes. I bet you havent worked a day in your life! as a matter of fact you are probably some relation to the Great Randini. And you probably got a cut from him.Yeah i admit from my mistake,but at the same time, I WANT JUSTICE!

Lets take for example. Someone came to Siminole and told you that they can get you a loan to buy a house, your dream home.You bust your hump every day, and you have Arthritis to boot, but you belive the Shister and you give him the 300, 300 that could be going to things you NEED! he doenst give you anything in return and you try to gett the money back and he aint there.

HOW WOULD YOU FEEL? Let me guess the Rich Educated Pam, wouldnt let anything like this happen cause she suddenly became GOD! She cant error and she has never lost money, SWEETY WHEN YOU LOSE EVERYTHING YOU OWN, THEN YOU COME JOIN THE WITCH HUNTER CLUB, TILL THEN, GET A CLUE. THIS IS A WEB SITE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT JUSTICE AND THEY AINT BUYING INTO THE MEANINGLESS DRIBBLE THAT COMES OUT OF THAT CAKE HOLE YOU CALL A BRAIN!

Go back to your little dream world and live happily with Randy,Leave us "Witch hunters" alone and let us see this scum fall.. oh yeah one more thing, breaks my heart to think you from the south.


John

Flomaton,
Alabama,
U.S.A.

oh look pathetic pam speaks!

#25Consumer Comment

Thu, September 02, 2004

Pam,

The only pathetic loser is you.I wish that for once you snobish, penny pintching, retards would get in the other guys shoes. I bet you havent worked a day in your life! as a matter of fact you are probably some relation to the Great Randini. And you probably got a cut from him.Yeah i admit from my mistake,but at the same time, I WANT JUSTICE!

Lets take for example. Someone came to Siminole and told you that they can get you a loan to buy a house, your dream home.You bust your hump every day, and you have Arthritis to boot, but you belive the Shister and you give him the 300, 300 that could be going to things you NEED! he doenst give you anything in return and you try to gett the money back and he aint there.

HOW WOULD YOU FEEL? Let me guess the Rich Educated Pam, wouldnt let anything like this happen cause she suddenly became GOD! She cant error and she has never lost money, SWEETY WHEN YOU LOSE EVERYTHING YOU OWN, THEN YOU COME JOIN THE WITCH HUNTER CLUB, TILL THEN, GET A CLUE. THIS IS A WEB SITE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT JUSTICE AND THEY AINT BUYING INTO THE MEANINGLESS DRIBBLE THAT COMES OUT OF THAT CAKE HOLE YOU CALL A BRAIN!

Go back to your little dream world and live happily with Randy,Leave us "Witch hunters" alone and let us see this scum fall.. oh yeah one more thing, breaks my heart to think you from the south.


John

Flomaton,
Alabama,
U.S.A.

oh look pathetic pam speaks!

#25Consumer Comment

Thu, September 02, 2004

Pam,

The only pathetic loser is you.I wish that for once you snobish, penny pintching, retards would get in the other guys shoes. I bet you havent worked a day in your life! as a matter of fact you are probably some relation to the Great Randini. And you probably got a cut from him.Yeah i admit from my mistake,but at the same time, I WANT JUSTICE!

Lets take for example. Someone came to Siminole and told you that they can get you a loan to buy a house, your dream home.You bust your hump every day, and you have Arthritis to boot, but you belive the Shister and you give him the 300, 300 that could be going to things you NEED! he doenst give you anything in return and you try to gett the money back and he aint there.

HOW WOULD YOU FEEL? Let me guess the Rich Educated Pam, wouldnt let anything like this happen cause she suddenly became GOD! She cant error and she has never lost money, SWEETY WHEN YOU LOSE EVERYTHING YOU OWN, THEN YOU COME JOIN THE WITCH HUNTER CLUB, TILL THEN, GET A CLUE. THIS IS A WEB SITE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT JUSTICE AND THEY AINT BUYING INTO THE MEANINGLESS DRIBBLE THAT COMES OUT OF THAT CAKE HOLE YOU CALL A BRAIN!

Go back to your little dream world and live happily with Randy,Leave us "Witch hunters" alone and let us see this scum fall.. oh yeah one more thing, breaks my heart to think you from the south.


Pamela

Seminole,
Florida,
U.S.A.

Mission accomplished you can't and won't learn from your own mistakes

#25Consumer Comment

Wed, September 01, 2004

Glad to hear that my comments tick you off, to put it politely. Why is it that all you hate-mongers can spew your crap...endlessly, while you tell others who disagree with you to shut up. You screwballs should have your own planet, where you can drone on non-stop about how you have been wronged and wronged and wronged. Why don't you take responsibility for your part of things going wrong. Thats why things will never work out for you...you can't and won't learn from your own mistakes. Too bad, so sad. GROW UP.


Beverly

Ariton,
Alabama,
U.S.A.

Witch-hunting hysterics?!?!

#25Consumer Comment

Tue, August 31, 2004

Oh Pamela, Pamela, Pamela.......
How awful it must be to have to go through life as a complete idiot. You sit on your high horse and call all of us victims "witch-hunting hysterics". Well sweetie, we did not get scammed out of 20 bucks by someone selling crap out of the trunk of his car, we got scammmed out of HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS by a company that was supposed to be legit! And a lot of the victims got scammed out of a HOME!!!! Hundreds of dollars and a home is a lot to lose dear! Or are you one of those who have never had to work for anything, and always had s--t handed to you on a silver platter? These are hard working law abiding citizens who only wanted to buy a home for their families. People who didn't have a lot of money for huge down payments. MTM promised them both - a home with little or no money down. And guess what? They got screwed out of their homes and their money! This is not a game! This is people's lives here! You don't screw with that! So please just do us all a favor and keep your mouth shut. You may think you're helping MTM by putting us down and raving about them. But all you're really doing is pissing us off more!


Noelani

Trust Or Consequences,
New Mexico,
U.S.A.

MTM Woodstock and Kansas are the same and they are all liars

#25Consumer Comment

Mon, August 30, 2004

This was an artical i found searching online about the infamous Money Tree Mortgage.


Category:
Mortgage Companies Submitted: 6/16/2004 6:38:40 AM
Modified: 6/16/2004 6:39:00 AM

Money Tree Mortgage Aka EHomes ripoff Todd Webster FINALLY CHARGED Randy Webster must be next! Woodstock And Olathe Georgia

Company
Money Tree Mortgage
Address:
8292 Highway 92, Suite 120
Woodstock Georgia 30198
U.S.A.
Phone Number:
678-841-1032
Fax:


They are finally getting what they deserve...doesn't Todd look so happy?!! The only that angers me is that they have been doing this for years! This did not just start last year...I was a victim too in 2001 but for only $200! HAPPY DAY!!!

HERE IS THE NEWS ARTICLE:

Mortgage tactics lead to charges

By TONY RIZZO The Kansas City Star

The former operator of an Olathe mortgage business was charged Tuesday with 31 counts of theft and computer crime.

Johnson County prosecutors said there were many other potential victims of the Money Tree Mortgage business that Todd M. Webster ran.

Webster, 33, of Woodstock, Ga., appeared Tuesday in Johnson County District Court, where he is charged with 16 counts of theft and 15 counts of computer crime.

The thefts are misdemeanors, because the amount allegedly taken in each case was less than $500. But prosecutors say that in 15 of the thefts a computer was used to facilitate the alleged crimes. Each of those counts is a felony.

The business is now closed, but white-collar crime investigators in the Johnson County district attorney's office said they received numerous complaints from consumers who said they had paid money to the company after being led to believe they could qualify for home loans.

Prosecutors allege that the company took $300 initial application fees from customers, knowing that the applicants were unlikely to qualify for loans because of bankruptcies or bad credit histories. The initial payments were not returned, according to the charges.

The alleged crimes occurred between January and July of last year, according to court documents.

Attorney Pat Miller represented Webster at Tuesday's initial court appearance. Miller could not be reached after the hearing.

Webster was released from custody later Tuesday after posting a $35,000 bond. A preliminary hearing was scheduled for Aug. 17.

Nicole
Franklinton, North Carolina
U.S.A.


John

Flomaton,
Alabama,
U.S.A.

Defender Jason Bravo

#25Consumer Comment

Mon, August 30, 2004

ok I am a victum of mister Webster. Pam and Lucy cant be real pple cause if they were,they would see that majority rules.These two "PPLE" (Morons) are or have to be family,employees or complete RETARDS! I have done reasurch into this company and i have been taken for a ride by "MISTER SCISTER" (webster).300 "PAM" thats a lot of money to take from a blue collar. I have recently found a loan from a local company here in town. Jason Keep up the good fight, PAM AND LUCY DONT QUIT YOUR DAY JOB. (oh wait if you work for them you DONT HAVEW A JOB). And i hope that RANDY gets his shaft big time.


Shannon

Riverside,
California,
U.S.A.

MTM Scams

#25Consumer Comment

Tue, August 17, 2004

Can anyone tell me if the MTM in Georgia and the MTM in Kansas are one in the same? I was taken by the MTM in Kansas over a year ago.. and would love to get my money back. If anyone knows of a lawsuit or how to contact MTM, I would be really interested. I have filed complaints with the BBB, the Dept of Real Estate, and the FBI for internet fraud. you can contact me via ripoffreport.com[DELETED]
[Place your comments below and be sure to include your FULL contact information so Rip-off Report can contact you.]

Thanks


Pamela

Seminole,
Florida,
U.S.A.

Anonymous equals spineless

#25Consumer Comment

Sun, August 15, 2004

Dear Anon,

How easy it is to chuck your poison-tipped spears and accuse others of lying when you don't even have the gumption to sign your own name.

Even if I didn't already know that your and your ilk were full of hooey, and worse, motivated by financial gain of your own, that alone would convince me that you did not have the courage of your convictions and chose to hide in the shadows where it is safe. But you know, that's where you are wrong. There is someone watching all we do and you will have to answer eventually for your true motives.

And no, I am not an employee of the company. I do not lie or hide behind a phony name. All you witch-hunting hysterics would like nothing better than to suppress all comments but the bile-soaked hate mail that you endorse. You can rant and rave all you want and I will continue to tell the truth as I know it. This is still a free country the last I heard.

Get a real life. I'm sure there is something more productive that you can be doing with it than endlessly churning the hate machine.


Anon

Truth Or Consequences,
New Mexico,
U.S.A.

Liars, BS testimonials

#25Consumer Comment

Tue, August 10, 2004

I think that the two happy customers of MTM are actually employees of MTM. How do I know this you might ask? Well, they are the kind of people who would make up testimonials about their own company.


Nicole

Franklinton,
North Carolina,
U.S.A.

MONEY TREE RIPPED ME OFF TOO...

#25Consumer Comment

Thu, May 13, 2004

I was a client (victim) as well several years ago when the application fee was $200! I have read hundreds of stories of how they did us wrong and it makes me ill! It makes me even more angry when I hear people like these women raving about a company that takes application fees knowing they will never help people and food out out of my children's mouths! I have filed my complaint with the BBB and with the Department of Banking and Finance in North Carolina. Money tree responds to the Dept with lies lies lies. I sent a response and proved them to be lies with numerous facts and paper work to back it up. No different than any of these other stories I have heard.

Money Tree, eHomes, Americas Best Home Loans...whoever they are today turned my family upside down. I believed these people when they said they would help me. How was I to know I was merely intended to be their next client (victim)?! When I started my process they had 4 complaints with the BBB now they have almost 200!!! Now put that in your pipe and smoke it Lucy! I am happy for the MERE TWO satisfied clients and as for the rest of us victims who are educated and trying to make the best our lives I think you should shut your mouth until you have walked in our shoes and been screwed by Randy Webster who is the biggest crook I have ever had dealt with! Until he has ripped you off you need not make comments about our experiences. I was a single mother raising two children and I'm not sure about you sweety but I work hard for my money! I don't work for Randy Webster to line his pockets. Now, I sit here in North Carlina and can't take action against this company because I don't live in GA...they planned that well and guess what girls...they are forbidden to do business in this state too!!!

To Jason and all the other victims: Just like I told Money Tree months and months ago...what comes around goes around! They aren't done with Randy and Todd yet!!! Amen!


Beverly

Ariton,
Alabama,
U.S.A.

On Jason's side all the way!!

#25Consumer Comment

Tue, May 04, 2004

This is in response to Pamela and Lucy.... I am really happy for you two. You are the only two people I know of who has dealt with Money Tree Mortgage and didn't get screwed! Money Tree Mortgage did nothing but give me the run around for months. They told me after I found my house, that it was okay to go ahead and move in before closing, that we would close with in the next seven days. That was October 24,2003. Finally after three more months of excuses and "problems", I found out that they were a fraud! Luckily the owners of the home were awesome people and worked with us so we didn't have to move. But we had to start all over trying to buy our home. We found another mortgage company a couple of months later, and with in five weeks we were closed. We closed on our home April 30,2004, NINE MONTHS after the first phone call with Money Tree. So don't tell me it's us who are the problem, when anyone with any kind of brain at all can see that it's Money Tree.
Lucy you said, and I quote, "....stupid illiterate people who have made a career of screwing their lives up and are now trying to get even...". Your d--n right I'm going to do my very best to get even with Money Tree! I almost lost my home because of them! Not to mention the money I lost, and all the stress I gained! I have no pity for Money Tree or any of their employees. At least Jason quit after seeing what was going on. But until you walk in the shoes of the people who's lives were turned upside down by this company, how dare you say s--t to us! You obviously have no idea what it's like to sit and wonder where your family will live if you lose your home. Well I do, and so do a lot of other people who had the misfortune of dealing with Money Tree Mortgage. So show us all a little respect and shut the h--- up!


Jason

Acworth,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

Pay Attention, Pam! If everyone else including myself is wrong, then why are the FEDs involved

#25UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thu, April 08, 2004

Pam,
I'm not sure why you insist on wasting space & people's time on this site. You & Lucy are still only 2 out of hundreds of people not scammed by MTM. The site is rip-off report & every elses rebuttals go along with the initial response except for yours & Lucy's.

I see you still haven't taken that long walk yet.

If you scroll back up you will see the reason I left MTM. Maybe I should put it in caps for you to read. I'VE HAD TO GET A PERSONAL ATTORNEY INVOVLED TO SUE RANDY WEBSTER & MTM FOR MONEY THEY OWE ME FOR LOANS I CLOSED. THE AMOUNT THEY OWE ME IS $10k. I would say that's a good reason to leave? If I'm going to get screwed out of my money why should I work? The job was commissioned based.

I was also the second employee he did this to in 2mths. The othe rperson was owed $5k but was able to settle out of court. Randy was scared that person would tell everyone the other things he did inside the company. Randy made that person sign a gag order to get his money, or else he would be on this site to. I still speak to him so I know.

No one in their right mind would stay under those circumstances. I'm sure you wouldn't & if you are willing to do weeks worth of work without pay then I've got a job for you. I own part of a night club & could really use someone like yourself to clean all S***T out of the restrooms! What do ya think?

As for Ron, I'll side with you on that topic. Another issue I had at MTM, was I refused to call people that couldn't qualify. Randy tried to reason with me on several occasions but I held my ground. It actually had a whole lot to do with why I left also, he tried to give me a quota of how many unqualified apps to collect.

Ron, he knew what he was doing a stayed all the way to the end. He seems to not care just as long as he gets paid! I know Randy didn't hire him to do loans, because Randy would fire his telemarketers if they figured out how much they can make off of the loan.

Like I said before, Randy Webster hired inexperienced people who didn't know better. Why settle for $50 for collecting an application, if you can get over $1,500 average per closed loan? Only someone who doesn't know better would chose the other option.

Ron might have backed me with my statement but he should because he knows I'm right! I'm not telling any lies, I don't need to. None of the other people are you lying either, they're just expressing their experience just like you & Lucy.

The only difference is that Pam & Lucy are the only ones who can say anything good about MTM! I'm actually glad that Randy didn't get to screw everyone out of the applications. I do know this, if you did close a loan with him you got over charged in your fees. I'm almost certain your closing costs were over 3% probably even 4%. The average is around 2.5% or lower.

I'm not going to keep going around in circles with either of you. Lucy, just for the record (BOLD) face lies not BALD! Pam, you have your opinions while everyone else has their facts. If everyone else including myself is wrong, then why are the FEDs involved. There are local appraisers that are being black listed from doing their job with investors because of the things Randy would force them to do.

The last check I cashed from MTM was at Randy's personal bank, a comment was made to me by the bank teller. She said, I was smart to bring the check to his bank, because he's known for screwing people out of money. That was from someone I didn't know & over 2yrs ago. What goes around comes around eventually. Which is why I don't lie, cheat, steal or work with MTM anymore!


Pamela

Seminole,
Florida,
U.S.A.

This is still a free country

#25Consumer Comment

Thu, April 08, 2004

It seems to me that you are the one that has trouble paying attention to detail, friend and "allie" Jason. This site specifically asks for rebuttals to comments made by hotheads like you. Obviously the word rebuttal is not in your limited vocabulary but it means that I am allowed the opportunity to set the record straight as regards to your bogus claims. You and the rest of the lynch mob would like nothing better than to have only your self-serving views presented. God help us if the country were run by retards like you. But don't get me started on politics; that's a whole other can of worms.

So the scamming started only after you left MTM. Gee, what's your new job in Florida, selling swamp land? If you were such a hotshot employee, closing loans left and right, why did you leave MTM. According to you, all the alleged "scamming" didn't start till after you left.

And Ron, they should have left you in jail. You talk just like a criminal already. You suggested taking the numbers off a personal check to charge things on the internet, ha ha. Had much experience doing that, have you? Why don't you go to Detective King and tell him your great idea? No wonder MTM had trouble with consumer confidence with two egg-sucking dogs such as yourselves for employees.


Pamela

Seminole,
Florida,
U.S.A.

This is still a free country

#25Consumer Comment

Thu, April 08, 2004

It seems to me that you are the one that has trouble paying attention to detail, friend and "allie" Jason. This site specifically asks for rebuttals to comments made by hotheads like you. Obviously the word rebuttal is not in your limited vocabulary but it means that I am allowed the opportunity to set the record straight as regards to your bogus claims. You and the rest of the lynch mob would like nothing better than to have only your self-serving views presented. God help us if the country were run by retards like you. But don't get me started on politics; that's a whole other can of worms.

So the scamming started only after you left MTM. Gee, what's your new job in Florida, selling swamp land? If you were such a hotshot employee, closing loans left and right, why did you leave MTM. According to you, all the alleged "scamming" didn't start till after you left.

And Ron, they should have left you in jail. You talk just like a criminal already. You suggested taking the numbers off a personal check to charge things on the internet, ha ha. Had much experience doing that, have you? Why don't you go to Detective King and tell him your great idea? No wonder MTM had trouble with consumer confidence with two egg-sucking dogs such as yourselves for employees.


Pamela

Seminole,
Florida,
U.S.A.

This is still a free country

#25Consumer Comment

Thu, April 08, 2004

It seems to me that you are the one that has trouble paying attention to detail, friend and "allie" Jason. This site specifically asks for rebuttals to comments made by hotheads like you. Obviously the word rebuttal is not in your limited vocabulary but it means that I am allowed the opportunity to set the record straight as regards to your bogus claims. You and the rest of the lynch mob would like nothing better than to have only your self-serving views presented. God help us if the country were run by retards like you. But don't get me started on politics; that's a whole other can of worms.

So the scamming started only after you left MTM. Gee, what's your new job in Florida, selling swamp land? If you were such a hotshot employee, closing loans left and right, why did you leave MTM. According to you, all the alleged "scamming" didn't start till after you left.

And Ron, they should have left you in jail. You talk just like a criminal already. You suggested taking the numbers off a personal check to charge things on the internet, ha ha. Had much experience doing that, have you? Why don't you go to Detective King and tell him your great idea? No wonder MTM had trouble with consumer confidence with two egg-sucking dogs such as yourselves for employees.


Pamela

Seminole,
Florida,
U.S.A.

This is still a free country

#25Consumer Comment

Thu, April 08, 2004

It seems to me that you are the one that has trouble paying attention to detail, friend and "allie" Jason. This site specifically asks for rebuttals to comments made by hotheads like you. Obviously the word rebuttal is not in your limited vocabulary but it means that I am allowed the opportunity to set the record straight as regards to your bogus claims. You and the rest of the lynch mob would like nothing better than to have only your self-serving views presented. God help us if the country were run by retards like you. But don't get me started on politics; that's a whole other can of worms.

So the scamming started only after you left MTM. Gee, what's your new job in Florida, selling swamp land? If you were such a hotshot employee, closing loans left and right, why did you leave MTM. According to you, all the alleged "scamming" didn't start till after you left.

And Ron, they should have left you in jail. You talk just like a criminal already. You suggested taking the numbers off a personal check to charge things on the internet, ha ha. Had much experience doing that, have you? Why don't you go to Detective King and tell him your great idea? No wonder MTM had trouble with consumer confidence with two egg-sucking dogs such as yourselves for employees.


RON

WOODSTOCK,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

ENCORE!! ENCORE!! - GREAT RESPONSE!!!!!!!!! ...POLICE AND FBI CAME IN WITH GUNS BLAZING AND RAMSACKED THE PLACE

#25UPDATE Employee

Fri, April 02, 2004

MY NAME IS RON.
I AM A FORMER AND LATEST EMPLOYEE OF MONEY TREE MORTGAGE. IN MY LAST WEEK OF WORKING THERE, THE POLICE AND FBI CAME IN WITH GUNS BLAZING AND RAMSACKED THE PLACE. OF COURSE, I WENT TO JAIL AND RANDY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE COMMON COURTESY TO COME AND GET ME OUT. I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HIS RIGHT HAND MAN. WE WERE SUPPOSE TO MAKE ALL KINDS OF MONEY TOGETHER! YEAH RIGHT! I'M NOW WITH A REAL COMPANY THAT GIVES PEOPLE REAL LOANS. A COMPANY THAT IS LICENSED IN MULTIPLE STATES.

I GIVE YOU A LOT OF CREDIT JASON BECAUSE YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH! ALSO, I WAS WITH MONEYTREE WHEN THEY CHANGED THEIR NAME AND MOVED DOWN THE STREET. GUESS WHAT? MY LAST CHECK SAID WAS UNDER MONEYTREE MORTGAGE WHEN I WAS WITH AMERICA'S BEST HOME LOANS FOR 2 WEEKS! WHAT'S THAT ALL ABOUT. ANOTHER FUNNY THING IS THAT ANOTHER EMPLOYEE AND PERSONAL FRIEND OF MINE WAS GIVEN A PERSONAL CHECK RIGHT OUT OF HIS MOTHER'S CHECK BOOK. MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE THOSE NUMBERS OFF THE BOTTOM OF THE CHECK AND BUY A FEW THINGS ON-LINE. HA,HA!


Jason

Acworth,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

Wow, two whole satisfied customers!

#25Author of original report

Wed, March 31, 2004

This is Jason I wrote the report above. Yes I had some words spelled wrong but I'm not an idiot(Lucy) I work for another company based in FL & most of my business is through referrals only so I've got to be doing something right!

So there's now two whole clients actually pleased with the service they recieved from MTM. The only reason you had an experience good to write about is because you actually gualified for a loan or you'd be another person scammed for an application fee.

I closed loans for MTM & clients were happy, most of these staments made by people on here were after I left the company. Randy started is scamming after I left because he did hire uneducated & inexperienced people to work.

If you check out their new site, they have testimonials of people here in Woodstock just as pleased as you say you are. The only problem with their statements is it's impossible to have a happy client in a state your not authorized to do business in, like GA! I'm going to assume that Lucy & Pamela probably aren't real either.

Could be that it's Pam D is Randy's aunt? As for Lucy who knows but based on the IP info you can't be who you say you are.

What's the chances that everyone else is just trying to get back at a company that screwed them? Pretty d**n good, look at the reports. Notice anything interesting? They all have basicly the same story to tell & those are just the people that have knowledge of these sites.

Now on the flip side here are Lucy & Pamela that are just thrilled with the service that MTM gave them. My answer to that is, if you are real MTM probably did your loan when I was there when they actually closed loans.

If the two of you women are so happy with the company in guestion, why are you browsing a site about their complaints? I know I don't research a company that I do business with after I was pleased with their service. Seems like your actions are a little delayed. Which brings me back to the topic of fake statements like on their new site.

MTM collected 200-300 applications a month & they have two clients that are actually happy, that's a whole 1% satisfied! Might have something to do with why they aren't doing business anymore & the F.B.I is going to be indicting them for what they've done. Looks like the two of you will have to find another company to close you future loans with!

I just wanted to make another response to the comment about cutting the hand off that fed me! I've had to get a personal attorney you idiot to get the $$ owed to me for work I did because Randy Webster thinks he can get away with it. I was the second employee that he did it to in two months. So tell me this, how would you feel if you worked for 3wks & your boss told you he wasn't going to pay you because he didn't feel like it?

I'll answer that one for you, you would do the same d**n thing myself & everyone else is doing. So you can come down off you pedistal of rightjeousness & not judge the people that have experienced what we have. Maybe you need to learn to read & pay attention to detail. This site is ripoff-report not the praise-report. So go take a long walk off a short pier, you idiots!


Lucy

Miami,
Florida,
U.S.A.

bald-face lies on the internet should carry more of a penalty

#25Consumer Comment

Wed, March 31, 2004

Where does a little slimeball like our friend and "allie" (can't even spell) Jason get off bad-mouthing a reputable company like Moneytree Mortgage. It seems to me that telling bald-face lies on the internet should carry more of a penalty than conducting a reputable business enterprise. He sounds just like a disgruntled employee trying to get even. What kind of rat turns on the hand that fed him. You've had several so-called ex-employees on your site, spewing their poisons. I wouldn't let any of them carry out my trash.

Moneytree handled my re-finance like a breeze. Even after I walked out on them and went to another company, who proceeded to royally screw things up, when I went back to Moneytree, Leslie graciously picked right up where we left off and my deal was done in no time. She was professional with a capital P and guided me through the whole process with ease. I don't know what all the complaints are about. Most of them seem to be from stupid and illiterate people, who have made a career of screwing their lives up and are now trying to "get even". I think some people need to grow up and take responsibility for themselves. Moneytree is not your problem...YOU are.


Pamela

Seminole,
Florida,
U.S.A.

I have nothing but praise for Moneytree Mortgage

#25Consumer Comment

Wed, March 31, 2004

Moneytree Mortgage company handled two home loans for me in such a competent and professional manner that I subsequently recommended them to several friends, who also had positive experiences. I found them to be helpful and courteous and the whole experience was virtually pain-free. I am writing this because I cannot believe the mob mentality that is currently operating to defame this reputable company and I felt compelled to give my version of dealings with them. I will be purchasing another home in the near future and would not hesitate to use this company again.

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