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Complaint Review: Anjelia Neil AND David Duran

Anjelia Neil AND David Duran EBAY VEHICLE SCAM-TAKES YOUR MONEY DOESN'T DELIVER VEHICLE San Jose, - New York- California- New York

  • Reported By:
    Frisco Texas
  • Submitted:
    Tue, March 24, 2009
  • Updated:
    Fri, June 25, 2010
  • Anjelia Neil AND David Duran
    35 Cold Spring Road, Rocky Hill Colorado06067
    2145 Hamilton Ave.San jose,, California
    U.S.A.
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My name is Melissa. I was recently on craigslist to see about trading my truck for another smaller truck. I came accross a 2006 Nissan Murano for a pretty low amount of cash. I e-mailed the seller to ask how many miles was on the vehicle. 'She' proceeded to tell me that the vehicle was her husbands who died in IRAQ 3 months ago. She said it brings her very bad memories and that she just wanted to get rid of it. I responded back my condolences to her as my brother is a marine and is going to Iraq.

That day I went back to lookup the vehicle on craigslist.com and e-bay unsuccessful to find it either one. I wrote her an e-mail and she said that she took it off because she didn't want to pay the fee's and sent about 20 pics (making sure not to include the tags) and a list of all the equipment on it. I searched the VIN: JN8AZ08T86W411729 on carfax.com and it came up clean but did not list who the two previous owners were, but that the car was registered in FL. Later when I asked the seller where the car was located she replied Angelia Neil, 35 Cold Spring Road, Rocky Hill, CT 06067. After the carfax came up clean I sent her my full name and address as she requested and said that she had a contract through e-bay that would handle the shipping etc. Included in the price. The pages (multiple e-mails) I recieved from 'e-bay' as they use the ebay registered trademarked logos's, look legitimate and they directed me to get a moneygram (fax it to e-bay agent David Duran 2145 Hamilton Avenue,San Jose,CA 95125 United States and fax the reciept to +1-(720) 367-0163 (Which is somewhere in Colorado) and to wait for e-mail confirmation of shipping details. I looked this morning to see if I had anymore e-mails confirming shipping and had none, so I decided to call moneygram to make sure that I was contacted before the money was picked up. The money was recieved the same day I sent it, somewhere in New York.
I searched her e-mail address (angelia_neil@msn.com) on MSN and and was linked to: Cars/Trucks for sale on craigslist
2,061 search results from 21 craigslist cities. ... Please contact me mail : Angelia_neil@msn.com 4 Wheel Disc Brakes 60/40 Split ...craigslittlebuddy.com/search/goto?...&s=1&q=&sort=city&city=lasvegas - 211k - Cached

I am in the process of filing a police report with the city of Frisco and would like any help you can provide in helping me to get my money back and make other buyers aware of this scam. I am a college student, single mother, and just trying to make ends meet. I sold my truck (which was all I owned) in hopes of getting a more reliable vehicle with better MPG and for what looked like such a great legitimate deal backed by the e-bay vehicle protection program and listed on craigslist.
Please help me,
Melissa,

Melissa
Frisco, Texas
U.S.A.

9 Updates & Rebuttals


Matt

Grafton,
Wisconsin,
United States of America

nissan murano 2006

#10REBUTTAL Owner of company

Fri, June 25, 2010

Hi Melissa,  I've been in contact with this Lady and she has the same story, but now she says she is pregnet.  And needs the money for her unborn child.  


Razor1973

USA

Also being advertised on the Miami Craigslist

#10Consumer Comment

Tue, October 13, 2009

I wanted to let people know what this person's ads look like, as well as what the car looks like, so I backed up the page, since it will soon be taken down.  Here it is:

http://backupurl.com/67s4xm

When my friend wrote to this person, her response came from victoria.ellis@msn.com and this is all it said:

"My 2006 Nissan Murano SL is still for sale, has no problems at all and is lien cleared. My asking price is $3900. Probably it deserve more, but I'm asking this price because I'm forced to sell it quickly as I got an employee car and I don't need this car anymore. I have a clear title for it, no liens or loans and never smoked in. Has 16,653 miles and the VIN# is JN8AZ08T86W411729. If you're still interested please let me know. Thank you"

I will be sure to post on the same section of Craigslist warning people about this scammer.


Gil

Arlington,
Texas,
U.S.A.

victim from this person

#10Consumer Suggestion

Wed, June 17, 2009

Still make a report to the police dept. I live in arlington,Tx. And would like to help you out to some how catch this person. Try to get the police to get the video were he yes he recieved the moneygram especially at a Walmart store. You have 90 days from the day he recieved the moneygram. Before its deleted. I hired an investigator to trace the email to its original email which you need to do it cost me about 100.00 only. best wishes. Hernandez a victim myself.


Emcmahon

Katy,
Texas,
U.S.A.

I was a potential victim

#10Consumer Suggestion

Sun, June 14, 2009

Today I found the 2006 Nissan Murano for $4,600 on Craigslist. When she emailed me with the story about her husband dying in Iraq I decided to google her email address to see if I could find anything on her validity. What I found was your report on her.

She told me she was from Connecticut and I saw she had posted the ad in Houston, Austin, Miami, etc. My dad made the comment, "If she's earnestly trying to sell that car for 12,000 less than retail value, she just needs to slap that price tag on it in Connecticut. She won't have it long."

Thank you for taking this initiative. I as well filed a report through this site so that maybe it will help someone in the future.

I have kept the emails she sent me if they will help you in your endeavor to retrieve your money.


Tj

Layton,
Utah,
U.S.A.

My Heart Goes Out to You!

#10Consumer Comment

Sun, March 29, 2009

The week of March 23, 2009 the exact same thing also was happening to me (Scott Peterson @ Gmail). However, I decided to take the e-mail exchanges and the carfax report, the e-bay vehicle protection plan specifics and drop them off at my bank. The people that are doing this are saying because their is something negative associated with vehicle (death, divorce, etc.) that they want a quick sale and will take it from the first person with the cash! My bank called back and said you are being scammed, don't send a penney!

Not once in all my emails would they give me phone contact numbers (they said the line would connect the fax and the phone company had been called). They were VERY convincing and they do not want to deal with people taking out loans because they want to unload the bad memory vehicle quickly! Of course this is because financial institutions do not send money without a vehicle present.

My heart goes out to anyone that actually sends the money because they make it sound so real, genuine and heart-felt. May the deepest, darkest corners of hell be theirs!

PS. Below is my final e-mail exchange with these con artists (Scott Peterson):

Scott,

Sorry, but the financial institution I use says this is a scam. That no reputable person would sell a vehicle and refuse to give their personal information. While, I am not real fond of the Lexus brand, the opportunity to get a vehicle under warranty at such a great value is tempting. As they say, "if it sounds to good to be true, it is". Well, with the Carfax, Lexus Warranty, Ebay VPP, etc., it sounded pretty reasonable. That is why I took it to the experts at my financial institution. They see red flags all over this and pretty much guarantee it will lead to heartache. Furthermore, my additional investigating found the exact lines you are using that did lead to heartache for others http://www.tacticaltechnique.com/vehicle-classifieds/ebay-vehicle-protection-program-scam/.

Now, if you are legitimate, I apologize. However, for me to seriously consider purchasing this vehicle I need your phone number, address and then I will have my Financial institution contact you. We will have you take the vehicle to a bank of our choosing in your area so they can inspect the car and title (we can also utilize the Quebec Lexus dealer if preferred). Once the confirmation of vehicle and clear title is completed, I am sure my financial institution can get you the money in 24 to 48 hours, while the bank or Lexus dealer holds the vehicle. Pretty painless, safe and simple way to sell a vehicle. We will then arrange for the shipping to my State on our own.


Gratefully,

Reply:


I want to take this opportunity to assure you that this deal is as legitimate as it could possible be. I am a very serious seller here.I never fooled someone in any way. I won't risk my freedom and my future for anything in the world!!! I would rather close this deal with other person than to know that you'll be very stressed hoping that I am a honest person, until you receive the car.
Scott Peterson
1029 Av de Bougainville Quebec, QC G1S 3A9 Canada.
I have already paid eBay to use their program so i want to stick with my original plan. If you want to move forward i will need your name and shipping address so i can have eBay contact you with the payment details.
Thank you


Tj

Layton,
Utah,
U.S.A.

My Heart Goes Out to You!

#10Consumer Comment

Sun, March 29, 2009

The week of March 23, 2009 the exact same thing also was happening to me (Scott Peterson @ Gmail). However, I decided to take the e-mail exchanges and the carfax report, the e-bay vehicle protection plan specifics and drop them off at my bank. The people that are doing this are saying because their is something negative associated with vehicle (death, divorce, etc.) that they want a quick sale and will take it from the first person with the cash! My bank called back and said you are being scammed, don't send a penney!

Not once in all my emails would they give me phone contact numbers (they said the line would connect the fax and the phone company had been called). They were VERY convincing and they do not want to deal with people taking out loans because they want to unload the bad memory vehicle quickly! Of course this is because financial institutions do not send money without a vehicle present.

My heart goes out to anyone that actually sends the money because they make it sound so real, genuine and heart-felt. May the deepest, darkest corners of hell be theirs!

PS. Below is my final e-mail exchange with these con artists (Scott Peterson):

Scott,

Sorry, but the financial institution I use says this is a scam. That no reputable person would sell a vehicle and refuse to give their personal information. While, I am not real fond of the Lexus brand, the opportunity to get a vehicle under warranty at such a great value is tempting. As they say, "if it sounds to good to be true, it is". Well, with the Carfax, Lexus Warranty, Ebay VPP, etc., it sounded pretty reasonable. That is why I took it to the experts at my financial institution. They see red flags all over this and pretty much guarantee it will lead to heartache. Furthermore, my additional investigating found the exact lines you are using that did lead to heartache for others http://www.tacticaltechnique.com/vehicle-classifieds/ebay-vehicle-protection-program-scam/.

Now, if you are legitimate, I apologize. However, for me to seriously consider purchasing this vehicle I need your phone number, address and then I will have my Financial institution contact you. We will have you take the vehicle to a bank of our choosing in your area so they can inspect the car and title (we can also utilize the Quebec Lexus dealer if preferred). Once the confirmation of vehicle and clear title is completed, I am sure my financial institution can get you the money in 24 to 48 hours, while the bank or Lexus dealer holds the vehicle. Pretty painless, safe and simple way to sell a vehicle. We will then arrange for the shipping to my State on our own.


Gratefully,

Reply:


I want to take this opportunity to assure you that this deal is as legitimate as it could possible be. I am a very serious seller here.I never fooled someone in any way. I won't risk my freedom and my future for anything in the world!!! I would rather close this deal with other person than to know that you'll be very stressed hoping that I am a honest person, until you receive the car.
Scott Peterson
1029 Av de Bougainville Quebec, QC G1S 3A9 Canada.
I have already paid eBay to use their program so i want to stick with my original plan. If you want to move forward i will need your name and shipping address so i can have eBay contact you with the payment details.
Thank you


Tj

Layton,
Utah,
U.S.A.

My Heart Goes Out to You!

#10Consumer Comment

Sun, March 29, 2009

The week of March 23, 2009 the exact same thing also was happening to me (Scott Peterson @ Gmail). However, I decided to take the e-mail exchanges and the carfax report, the e-bay vehicle protection plan specifics and drop them off at my bank. The people that are doing this are saying because their is something negative associated with vehicle (death, divorce, etc.) that they want a quick sale and will take it from the first person with the cash! My bank called back and said you are being scammed, don't send a penney!

Not once in all my emails would they give me phone contact numbers (they said the line would connect the fax and the phone company had been called). They were VERY convincing and they do not want to deal with people taking out loans because they want to unload the bad memory vehicle quickly! Of course this is because financial institutions do not send money without a vehicle present.

My heart goes out to anyone that actually sends the money because they make it sound so real, genuine and heart-felt. May the deepest, darkest corners of hell be theirs!

PS. Below is my final e-mail exchange with these con artists (Scott Peterson):

Scott,

Sorry, but the financial institution I use says this is a scam. That no reputable person would sell a vehicle and refuse to give their personal information. While, I am not real fond of the Lexus brand, the opportunity to get a vehicle under warranty at such a great value is tempting. As they say, "if it sounds to good to be true, it is". Well, with the Carfax, Lexus Warranty, Ebay VPP, etc., it sounded pretty reasonable. That is why I took it to the experts at my financial institution. They see red flags all over this and pretty much guarantee it will lead to heartache. Furthermore, my additional investigating found the exact lines you are using that did lead to heartache for others http://www.tacticaltechnique.com/vehicle-classifieds/ebay-vehicle-protection-program-scam/.

Now, if you are legitimate, I apologize. However, for me to seriously consider purchasing this vehicle I need your phone number, address and then I will have my Financial institution contact you. We will have you take the vehicle to a bank of our choosing in your area so they can inspect the car and title (we can also utilize the Quebec Lexus dealer if preferred). Once the confirmation of vehicle and clear title is completed, I am sure my financial institution can get you the money in 24 to 48 hours, while the bank or Lexus dealer holds the vehicle. Pretty painless, safe and simple way to sell a vehicle. We will then arrange for the shipping to my State on our own.


Gratefully,

Reply:


I want to take this opportunity to assure you that this deal is as legitimate as it could possible be. I am a very serious seller here.I never fooled someone in any way. I won't risk my freedom and my future for anything in the world!!! I would rather close this deal with other person than to know that you'll be very stressed hoping that I am a honest person, until you receive the car.
Scott Peterson
1029 Av de Bougainville Quebec, QC G1S 3A9 Canada.
I have already paid eBay to use their program so i want to stick with my original plan. If you want to move forward i will need your name and shipping address so i can have eBay contact you with the payment details.
Thank you


Jim

Orlando,
Florida,
U.S.A.

Please Tell Me...

#10Consumer Suggestion

Wed, March 25, 2009

Lets forget about all the possibilities of getting back your money...forget the police etc.

Tell me something...

You know as much as I do about all the uncertainty of buying used cars even at the dealership level in your own hometown.

Why on God's Green Earth would you even remotely consider buying a car...sight unseen...on the internet?

Please tell me the wisdom and inteligence in that...maybe I'm missing something!


Flynrider

Phoeix,
Arizona,
U.S.A.

Probably won't get it back

#10Consumer Comment

Wed, March 25, 2009

Sorry to say that you've been scammed and it's unlikely that you'll ever see your money again. This is a very common scam on Craigslist. The two key red flags are that the car is priced well below market value, and the seller offers to ship the car at no extra charge (which costs a lot of money). These two things are meant to distract you from really analyzing the deal.

If you step back with a critical eye you'd see that that the whole scenario is quite improbable. If the seller really wanted to get rid of a car at a price well below market value, she could just take it to a local dealer who would be glad to take it off her hands immediately. There's no reason to go through the trouble of advertising out of state. Also, since the seller is already taking a large loss by pricing below market value, why would they also give up possibly thousands more by guaranteeing shipping to wherever the buyer is located?

The kicker is the requirement to send a moneygram. These transactions are untraceable and are the hallmark of a scam. This is one of the few ways that a scammer can collect a large amount of cash from a victim without leaving a paper trail. Anytime someone you don't know requires you to send a moneygram to complete a transaction, you are being scammed.

On the Craigslist homepage, if you click on "Scams" you'll see the following :

DEAL LOCALLY WITH FOLKS YOU CAN MEET IN PERSON - follow this one simple rule and you will avoid 99% of the scam attempts on craigslist.
NEVER WIRE FUNDS VIA WESTERN UNION, MONEYGRAM or any other wire service - anyone who asks you to do so is a scammer.
FAKE CASHIER CHECKS & MONEY ORDERS ARE COMMON, and BANKS WILL CASH THEM AND THEN HOLD YOU RESPONSIBLE when the fake is discovered weeks later.
CRAIGSLIST IS NOT INVOLVED IN ANY TRANSACTION, and does not handle payments, guarantee transactions, provide escrow services, or offer "buyer protection" or "seller certification"
NEVER GIVE OUT FINANCIAL INFORMATION (bank account number, social security number, eBay/PayPal info, etc.)
AVOID DEALS INVOLVING SHIPPING OR ESCROW SERVICES and know that ONLY A SCAMMER WILL "GUARANTEE" YOUR TRANSACTION.

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