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  • Report:  #951893

Complaint Review: Aspen Auto Clinic

Aspen Auto Clinic Deceptive Thievery Colorado Springs, Colorado

  • Reported By:
    K_R_H — Manitou Springs Colorado United States of America
  • Submitted:
    Sun, October 07, 2012
  • Updated:
    Sat, October 13, 2012
  • Aspen Auto Clinic
    4401 Mark Dabling
    Colorado Springs, Colorado
    United States of America
  • Phone:
    719) 227-1315
  • Category:

                                                                                                
     The following letter is for informational purposes. If you do read it in its entirety, and feel like preventing other consumers from being a victim of consumer abuse, I ask that you please do share it.
     Having been a steady, believing, and trusting customer of Aspen Auto Clinic since 01/16/2008 I was amazed at what transpired, for me at this shops location of 4401 Mark Dabling, in Colorado Springs, Colorado today. Please continue reading, and understand that I have worked in the customer service field since 1983, and I am posting this information so other potential customers will be aware of my situation at this auto repair facility, and not be overly charged when they seek out auto repair assistance here like I was.
    My situation began on Monday, 08/27/12, when I was in Pueblo, Colorado, and my clutch failed in my vehicle. Having used, and trusted, Aspen Auto Clinic in the past I took it upon my self to immediately call the towing service they use; Knob Hill Towing, and let them know I was stuck out of town, and needed my vehicle towed back to Colorado Springs, Colorado. They quoted me a rate of $200.00 dollars, which I accepted at the time (more on this later).
    My vehicle was picked up, and delivered to Aspen Auto Clinic located at 4401 Mark Dabling blvd in Colorado Springs, Colorado. On Tuesday (08/28/12) I called, and spoke to, employee Brian Tore-nicknamed Old Brian per se-advising him of the problem with my vehicle, and he said he would call me back with a quote. This same day I was contacted back by Brian with a quote of $1600.00, for the replacement of a clutch on my vehicle, and the attempted sale of a timing chain replacement also. I asked him if this was the same timing chain that his company had replaced for me years back, and he stuttered and stammered, for a second apparently realizing his mistake. I was absolutely shocked at the estimate, but having trusted Aspen Auto Clinic in the past I decided I would let them do the work under duress, so I could return to my employment immediately, and make a living, and have my vehicle for daily use.
    It was immediately after this that I called the Phil Long Ford dealership for a quote, and was amazed that a dealership would quote me a fee of $1,100.00 dollars. Dealerships have a reputation of being highly overpriced compared to local automotive repair centers. This quote being $500.00 dollars lower than Aspen Autos quote to me twenty minutes earlier. It was at this time twenty minutes later that I called Brian Tore back, and asked him if my vehicle was being worked on yet. He stated that yes it was being worked on, and I advised him that I had spoken to a dealer and the price I was quoted was an easy $500.00 dollars lower than his quote. After I mentioned this to Brian he said he would work with me on the price. What this did mean at the time I did not know, nor did Brian ever explain it to me. 
    I decided to take it upon myself to call four more auto repair facilities in Colorado Springs, and educate my self on their price quotes at this time, for the same repair on my vehicle. I was continuously astonished at the information I was receiving. I received quotes to do the same exact type of work that Aspen Auto was doing, and ranging in difference from $760.00 to $1,027.98 on my vehicle. All quotes, from these businesses with their shop names, the person spoken to, and their phone numbers are listed below at the end of this documentation, for the record.
     On 08/29/12 at approximately 3:30 pm I was contacted via telephone by an employee of Aspen Auto that was not Brian Tore, and advised that he was calling me because Brian was in a meeting, and unavailable. Imagine that. This gentleman was advising me that my vehicle was finished being repaired, and now available, for pickup. I advised this gentleman I would need to find a way to the shop, and he offered his facilities shuttle service to me, and I accepted a ride to Aspen Auto Repair, from their shuttle driver. The same shuttle driver that decided to introduce me to his flatulence as we pulled up, and arrived at the Aspen Auto shop. Thats just even worse customer service by your employees Greg.
     Upon arrival at Aspen Auto Repair I presented the gentleman behind the counter-whose name I never did receive, but I can identify-with a copy of the enclosed vehicle repair quotes, and told him I could not believe their shop was wanting to charge me $1600.00, for a repair that I could easily have had done for half that price at another local automotive repair shop (#3 on the below enclosed list). This gentleman had very little to say at all when I gave him the list, and he also tried to pickup my copy of the list, from the counter top, and I advised him this one was my copy to review with him. He immediately went into the back area of the reception lobby to call somebody. This gentleman later told me that this somebody was his contact at a dealership shop that he did comparison pricing with. I was never advised which shop, or whom, he spoke to in reference to that quote. Since I never did see this counter technician on the phone during this call, was he possibly speaking to nobody? It was at this time I continued to express my disgust with Aspen Auto Repairs pricing to fix my vehicle with him. This gentleman then reviewed my bill and said that I was only charged $121.00 dollars, and some pennies for my tow to the shop, not the $200.00 dollars I was originally quoted.  He said he would also have to discuss this with employee Brian Tore since it was quoted incorrectly. This gentleman also advised me that the tow was going to be $161.00, and some change, after my vehicle arrived at the shop. Apparently Aspen Auto adds a percentage-approximately $40.00 this time-for its customers that have their vehicles towed to their shop. At this time the man behind the counter said he would set the bill, for all of my auto repair work, at $1,344.50 dollars total, and that Aspen Auto gives a 3/36 warranty with its work. All other shops only provide a 12/12 warranty. I never did receive a copy of my paperwork/receipt, for the work done on my vehicle, from this man, and it was never offered either at this time, nor was any warranty information ever explained to me the whole time I was present. The only receipt I ever did receive was for part of my payment made on an American Express card that a relative was nice enough to assist me with, for a partial payment towards the repairs. I myself paid for the balance of the payment in cash in the amount of $1000.00 dollars at the counter. This money was counted out, and given to this gentleman, with two other Aspen Auto employees present. Myself, if necessary can identify these employees.
    Having no choice, but to pay for these repairs, and go to work, I did so with great disgust. I also decided that I would not want any other customer that may come to this auto repair facility to be treated like I was with outlandish unrealistic pricing, or the deception I was treated to either, so I am moving forward with this complaint to the Better Business Bureau in Colorado Springs, Colorado, on my own, and their behalf.
     Better Business Bureau complaint #37027291 was filed by myself, and responded to, by Aspen Auto employee Nick Cancino (vice president of operations). Cancino did not oblige my complaint at all. In the complaint I specified for the owner of Aspen Auto Clinic, Greg Bunch, to contact me, and discuss this matter personally since he does have my telephone number. I desire for the owner to provide me with a detailed explanation of why I was deceived by his customer service staff, why I was never provided with a warranty, or receipt paperwork, at the time my payment was made. I also advised Nick that I expected to have at least one third of my money that was paid for this repair refunded back to me since I have proven beyond any reasonable doubt that I was vastly overcharged a minimum of $400.00 to $600.00 more than other local certified automotive shops would charge. This can be proven clearly by the five included telephone estimates included below.  Mr. Cancinos only recourse was an offer to send me my receipts by certified mail, and not have the owner Greg Bunch contact me. I felt it was in my best consumer interest to NOT accept Mr. Cancinos response presented to me through the Better Business Bureaus response format. I refused, and once again advised him I would only speak with the owner. As of this day I still have seen no paperwork in reference to my vehicle repairs, and never been contacted by the owner.
     I also advised Mr. Cancino in my response that I will strongly emphasize the expansion of this customer service complaint by forwarding this entire complaint to all people I know, so they can forward it to every person they know, and prevent any other further monetary losses in their automotive repair needs.
 
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      Pricing estimates, from Colorado Springs, Colorado, automotive repair shops done 08/28/12, for a 1994 Ford Ranger clutch replacement with all necessary parts, and flywheel machining:
 
1        $1,100.00 per Chris at Phil Long Ford in Colorado Springs (1-888-548-8432)
2        $1,027.98 per Bowers Transmission & Automotive with Ford OEM parts.
       (596-4818)
 
3        $760.00 per Neil at Springs Auto & Truck service center (719 382-0363)
4        $850.00-$900.00 per Jim at Colorado Transmissions (719-623-5106)$825.00 per Dale at Craig Automotive repair service (719-596-1516)

2 Updates & Rebuttals


K_R_H

Manitou Springs,
Colorado,
United States of America

Response

#3Author of original report

Sat, October 13, 2012

The facts presented are factual, and complete, to the best of my knowledge.

Per the statement, "The quotes he got are not for the complete list of repairs that were actually performed on his vehicle," where are the the detailed receipts that I have yet to see , from Aspen Auto, so I can see the complete list of repairs?

My vehicle was towed in on a Tuesday? Try Monday, August 27th 2012-I waited two days for it, and NEVER said it was a rush job. My one, and only received receipt-an Ameriican Express receipt, for $344.50- is dated 08/29/12. Please explain to me how that took one day. I'll gladly copy, and post, the receipt for review here.

I walked into the store, and was rude. I was never rude, but, I was very angered at being given an estimate that was actually above double of one mechanics shop listed on the paperwork I showed to the counter help. Who wouldn't be angry after seeing how they can be excessively charged compared to five verifiable auto repair quotes" Once again you say the cost of repairs listed were not the same. Ok then, what exactly were they, and where are my receipts that were NEVER given to me?

Keep in mind I did file a Better Business Bureau complaint, and the only response from Aspen Auto was to send me the receipts via certified mail. In my complaint I asked for the owner to call me personally, so we could discuss the work on my vehicle, and the customer service business practices of his employees. I have yet to receive a call, from the owner.

A coupon applied to the tow bill? this is the first I have heard of this action. I was never told of this at anytime, even while paying. Once again, show me the receipts, and paperwork, from the work done on my vehicle, so this can be verified by the facts.

In regards to the following quote, "Long story short Aspen did all we could to try and accommodate this customer and giving him an additional 3rd of his money back so he would not complain as he stated in his Better Business Bureau Complaint is not how we deal with customers." That's absolutely correct, you desired, and chose to, not have the owner contact me in reference to this matter as stated in the BBB complaint. I never at anytime stated that giving me back 1/3 of my money would prevent me from filing a BBB complaint, nor was that the way you should deal with customers, so the complaint was filed by me thoroughly. I simply find it amazing I could be charged double, for the work quoted by one of the five other shops, and still receive NO paperwork for all the work  that was done.

You state that at no time was the customer lied to, or decieved. I have never said I was lied to by Aspen Auto. Was I decieved? Where's my paperwork I have never received?


Aspen Auto

Colorado Springs,
Colorado,
United States of America

Unfair compalint

#3UPDATE Employee

Fri, October 12, 2012

This is a response to the customer who complained about his visit at the Aspen Auto Clinic on Mark Dabling Blvd.

The facts he has listed are not factual except for the fact that he did indeed tow his vehicle to the Mark Dabling facility and he did approve all the repair work. The quotes he got are not for the complete list of repairs that were actually performed on his vehicle. We not only replaced the clutch and machined the flywheel.

But we replaced the pilot bearing, the clutch master cylinder and the clutch slave cylinder. The vehicle was towed in on a Tuesday and he got the vehicle back the next day because he was in a very major rush for it so he could get back to work.

He was quoted a price and accepted, he did call back but it was a couple hours later and work indeed had been started and that was because he had to have the vehicle back the very next day and it was a labor intensive repair. Brian did agree to work with him on price and had intention of giving him one of our store coupons that are available.

The next day Brian Tore was in a training session when the vehicle was completed and asked someone else to call the customer because of the great rush he was in to get his vehicle back.

When the customer arrived he was very rude with the staff and gave his list of estimate quotes he had gotten from around town. (None being the complete list of repairs we did). We still looked at them and we did contact a local Transmission repair shop to get his pricing for the same repair. That shop only offers a 12/12 warranty but he quoted us a price that was comparable to us.

In the interest of keeping the customer happy we lowered the bill to try and appease him.

The customer was charged $1344.50 which included sales tax which none of his estimates included and the tow bill which Aspen paid $55.00 of.

The actual tow bill was $167.75 and we have the invoice to prove it. The quote given over the phone for the tow is an estimate because we were unaware exactly where the customer was broken down.

Aspen had a coupon at that time which covered up to $55.00 in towing towards any approved repair which Brian gave the customer (without the coupon) as a goodwill gesture.

The customer does still have a 3/36 warranty with Aspen no matter what.

The Better Business Bureau Complaint has been dismissed and Aspen still has an A+ rating that we are very proud of.

Long story short Aspen did all we could to try and accommodate this customer and giving him an additional 3rd of his money back so he would not complain as he stated in his Better Business Bureau Complaint

is not how we deal with customers. If a customer has any legitimate complaint it is delt with quickly and HONORABLY and not swept under the rug.

Greg the owner of Aspen Auto runs a very ethical buisness and insists on all his employees following the same ethics. At no time was the customer lied to or deceived in any way and actually all was done to try and save him because long term customers are what have made us a success in Colorado Springs.

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