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Avlimil, Likekey Healthcare, Warner Pharmaceuticals, Wagner Healthcare ripoff, avlimil, enzyte, deceptive company fraudulent ripoff business Cincinnati Ohio
I found badbusinessbureau.com while looking for background info on the company that defrauded me and I wanted to share my experience and to provide others with (hopefully) useful information that may aid in their own search for a resolution. I have not found one yet, but I will.
Ever hear or see any advertisements for a product called Avlimil? Unfortunately I did. I responded to a radio ad that offered a "free 30-day trial" (for only $4.95 S&H fee) of a new "natural remedy" designed to enhance sexual desire among females. Based on what seemed like a low-risk proposition, I followed the instructions and went to their website to take advantage of this offer. On June 2nd, I filled out the online form, entered my credit card info to cover the S&H and double-checked everything to make sure I understood exactly what I was committing myself to.
I received my "free 30-day supply" on June 22nd but I put it aside, unopened. After a very busy two weeks away, I returned home and noticed in the mail I had received yet another package from Avlimil. Along with another batch of pills was a flyer stating that Avlimil is "now available through Managed Care direct" - program they created to "help defray" the costs. There was no invoice inside or other info indicating this was part of any order I had placed. My husband asked me about the pills (especially since I had not even tried the first batch yet) and wondered if I had committed to receiving them on a regular basis- I assured him this was not the case.
Two days later our credit card statement arrived and my husband showed me that we had indeed been charged the original $4.95 S&H back on June 2, but had then been charged $35 on June 29 for the most recent batch of pills. Then I finally opened the first package I received on 6/22 and noticed it included a "welcome to the program" letter, which stated that I am now "enrolled" in their "cycle" program and would receive regular shipments of the drug.
This was very disconcerting because I NEVER authorized any enrollment, nor was any "automatic enrollment" disclosed on the online form that filled out for the free trial. Just to check and to re-read what I had filled out, I tried to return to the original page I had bookmarked, from which I placed the order and when I went back to that link, it came up "404." This was not looking good.
In retrospect, I should have inspected the first package when I initially received it, but it just wasn't a priority at the time. If I had, I would have learned sooner that I had been arbitrarily signed up to a program without my prior knowledge or consent. Now I focused on 'damage control.' I found the Avlimil home page so I could obtain a phone number in order to call and immediately stop this recurring shipment. Got the number and called it yesterday and a recorded message intructed me to go back to "cancel@avilmil.com" I did that, and then got on the phone to my credit card company to find out about how to dispute the charge for $35.
While I was on the phone to the CSR, she told me "Hmmm, they just charged for another $35 yesterday (July 10). Bottomline is that only three weeks out of my "free 30-day trial had elapsed and already I had been billed for two additional shipments of the product- WHICH I HAD NEVER AUTHORIZED to begin with.
It had become clear to me that I was stuck in a continual billing cycle from a obviously shady business. It seemed that the only prudent thing to do at this point was to close my credit card; which seemed the best way to ensure that no further charges against it would be made by this Company.
So what about the "Company" in question? They call themselves Warner Healthcare- a division of Wagner Pharmaceuticals. Trying to unearth info about them has been the most sickening part of the fact-finding quest so far. In conducting extensive searches, I have found that Avlimil, Warner Healthcare and Wagner Pharmaceuticals also lead straight back to these other entities:
Lifekey Healthcare, MioPlan, Enzyte (a famous and certainly credible "p***s growth formula" advertised extensively across hundreds of porn sites) and one complete scuzzball named Stephen Warshak. It's funny, in coming across Avlimil press releases and news plugs all across the net carried by multiple sources, I've seen them refer to themselves by their spokesperson (interchangeably) as both "Wagner AND Warner Healthcare," along with "Warner Pharmaceuticals" and "Wagner Pharmaceuticals" (guess they haven't yet figured out which names sound "more credible." As an aside, do a "whois" domain search on all of the above domain names and the registrations always comes back to either Mike wagner or Stephen Warshak of Cincinnati. In every case, the primary email address for EVERY SINGLE ONE of those domains is warshak@one.net
I've got to hand it to them though, they REALLY had me fooled with their marketing literature and packaging- it really is convincingly done as if it did come from a reputable pharmaceutical company- it would appear to most people that you're dealing with a company of substance - perhaps one even actually in the pharmaceutical business- not hardly. What I've found is that all roads lead back to one patently deceptive, scumbag who, as I've learned from reading many complaints now, has used this "unauthorized enrollment" scam in marketing all of his products.
Frankly I can't even tell you if his herbal remedies are worth a d**n because I haven't even ingested any of it yet nor will I. I figure that given the deceptive and wholly fraudlent sales practices I've experienced firsthand, something tells me the product itself is nothing other than a useless placebo. So I bought-in to wishful thinking and clever packaging and got taken.
So now I am going to try and pry loose the money they stole from me. I don't know if I will succeed, but I'll give it a good try.
Debra
sacramento, California
U.S.A.
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Sherri
Richmond,California,
U.S.A.
available at any health food or drug store, much cheaper
#6Consumer Comment
Tue, December 02, 2003
The main ingredient is Black Cohosh, available at any health food or drug store, much cheaper. Don't take it if you have any history of liver problems of any sort and consult with an MD if taking any other medications or herbs.
Sherri
Richmond,California,
U.S.A.
available at any health food or drug store, much cheaper
#6Consumer Comment
Tue, December 02, 2003
The main ingredient is Black Cohosh, available at any health food or drug store, much cheaper. Don't take it if you have any history of liver problems of any sort and consult with an MD if taking any other medications or herbs.
Sherri
Richmond,California,
U.S.A.
available at any health food or drug store, much cheaper
#6Consumer Comment
Tue, December 02, 2003
The main ingredient is Black Cohosh, available at any health food or drug store, much cheaper. Don't take it if you have any history of liver problems of any sort and consult with an MD if taking any other medications or herbs.
Linda
Cincinnati,Ohio,
U.S.A.
avlimil works for me
#6Consumer Comment
Mon, September 01, 2003
i am a 46 year young married women,i had a complete hystorectomy at a very young age due to health problems.For the last 14 yrs of mt life i have been going through trying times with my husband due to make lack of desire and ability towards sex.I have been on every anti-depressant and hormone replacemetn therapy that you could name to deal with that and my menapause issues.I was just at the end of my wits and my marriage until my doctor informed me about avlimil.It has literally saved my life in more ways than one.
Now i've been to the website and unlike others i did read over all the info that was there and i understood about the auto ship and billing,and i have been a customer with avlimil for about 6months now and have never been treated rudely or had a problem with billing,and i can speak for at least 10 other women at my dr's office avlimil is a life saver.
thanx
Yvonne
Ava,Illinois,
U.S.A.
You're Just The Beginning Of A Tidal Wave Of Angry Women That Bought "The Little Blue Pill" From Avlimil
#6Consumer Suggestion
Tue, July 29, 2003
The same thing happened to me, only I received the unsolicited package from Warner Health Care yesterday. I did not even have to contact my bank to see if Warner Health Care had debited my account for $35.00. I knew instantly that they were pulling a fast one.
I went on the www.avlimilcancel.com site The company asked for your name, address, etc, credit card number ("as a unique identifier of your account"). The last question asks why you are canceling and gives you 5 options to choose from. If you choose any one of the 5, you are unwittingly agreeing that you were aware that the company was going to continue sending you, "The Little Blue Pill" on a monthly basis. I did not complete the transaction.
I called the company and spoke to Sarah. Before I could even tell her, that I did not agree to any additonal shipments of Avlimil, she told me that I should send the second package back and that when the company received the package, they would credit my account.
I told her that I wanted her to pass something onto her supervisors. I told her that I was familiar with Internet fraudulent business practices, because I had been working a complaint with the FTC and the Attorney General of Illinois, Liza Madigan, on Alyon Technologies. I told her that her supervisors needed to look that one up.
I told her that I was NOT going to spend the money sending the unsolicited second package of Avliml back, because postal regulations state that if you receive something in the mail that you did not order, you can keep that item and not pay for it. I told her to tell her supervisors that I wanted my bank account credited and my account canceled.
Sarah asked me to wait a moment and when she returned, she said that my account would be credited within 7-10 working days and I did not have to send the second package back.
I assure you, that the two of us, are not the only ones that were taken advantage of by Warner Health Care. After this happened, I searched the web for information on this company, (I should have done this prior to ordering) I ran across OB/gyn.net. This website ran an article on Avlimil. I fired off an email to the publisher, accusing him of being a front for Warner Health Care and threatened to report his site to the FTC. The publisher responded immediately, and said that he had no connection to Warner Health Care and that he had been getting numerous emails from irrate people. He could not figure out what was going on. I apologized and told him how his site was being linked with Avlimil.
I am a chiropractor and I ordered this product thinking that I might offer a natural alternative to women with hormonal issues. I am also a women, and I can not think of any group of people I would least like to upset, than women with hormonal issues, or those in menopause. First, their usually an older group. Second, they have money to fight. Third, --well, ask any intelligent husband why they would not want to anger a hormonally-challenge woman.
Good luck!