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Award Pools RIPPED OFFFF AND PSD OFFF 8+ MONTHS 50K LATER AND STILL WAITING!! ORLANDO Florida
HOW SHOULD I BE?
It all started when I decide to put a pull in my home. I contacted a few pool companies and finally decided to go with award Pool Company. Which had said IT WOULD TAKE 6 TO 12 to COMPLETE the pool.
That's when the nightmare began it was the end of April of 05 that I signed the contract for the pool.
It took three month for them to come out and begin the pool. Then bam they slapped me with a 40% of the actual pool cost which was around 20k as a deposite just to dig a hole!!! I was fine with that because I though ok the ball should be rolling now. Nope that is where the nightmare really really began because after they dug the hole they took two month to come out and gunite it (Cement) and I really believe the only reason they came out was because I when to the office and told them that I was very disappointed and that I did not want to continue with the pool so they promised me to have some one out the next morning and continue the work.
So I Waited and waited and waited no one came so I called and told them by massage because they refused to pick up the phone (childish). Told them to give me my deposit back cause I wasn't playing there game. They came the following morning at 6 a.m. before I was able to go and pick up my deposit.
This is when they really decided to stick it to me because after that they asked for another 40% with was another 20k (41k at this point) and then waited another 2 months for them to put some tile up and plumbing and asked me for 10% more that I did not want to give them because I had given them TO MUCH MONEY to for the work that has been done but they threatened to put a lean on my home because of breach of contract so I did.
Called the BBB. Ha what a joke did nothing for me also called the city to complain about the trenches that my youngest has fallen into several times and the hazardous conditions that there was tried explaining that I had two little one that plays around this but nothing from them nor the pool company to correct this problem.
Latest is that I've given them 97% and the pool is only about 60-70% complete and dealing with them not ordering the paver for the pool on time so know they are in back order so I have to wait 4-6 weeks to get them.
Then two weeks later they call and say that they no longer make that paver so to pick out another and finaly i get the paves and guess what?
They send me the wrong pavers and try to point the finger at me.
So now Dec. 07 05 and I still wait for the paver so they can take the next step and install the lighting, finish the pool,screen it and fix the sidewalk that they damaged,
When they started there where only two pools done around my house know there are 5 and one that is under construction. Ironically from the same company that I have been dealing with and there's have been over 75% done in the past 2-3 months. There's also another pool company that started their pool in November and finish it this week!!!!.
So tell me how should I be?
Jose
Kissimmee, Florida
U.S.A.
8 Updates & Rebuttals
Dan
Orlando, FL,Florida,
U.S.A.
In Response to the Anthony & Sylvan rebuttal
#9Consumer Comment
Thu, August 17, 2006
Both Pat Pitts and Santiago Serna are former employees of Orlando's Anthony & Sylvan office. When A&S decided to leave Florida, both Pat & Santiago went to a company called "Be Cool Pools." A year or so later Be Cool Pools started having some issues as well. That is when Award Pools was formed. The latest I have heard (not confirmed) was that Santiago Serna left Award Pools to join (own?) a company called Aztec Pools, which builds mainly in Osceola County.
Jennifer
St.Cloud,Florida,
U.S.A.
What a coincidence
#9Consumer Suggestion
Thu, August 10, 2006
Jose. I hope your pool is finished by now. What a coincidence that the person who wrote the rebuttal to your comment was also named Patrick. It was too perfect. I guess we both now who wrote it.
I am having the same problem with Award Pool and Patrick Pitts right now. Except this time, they closed their office and are not returning phone calls. I've lost my money and the sub-contractors were not paid. Now i'm being sued.
Suzy
Anytown,Florida,
U.S.A.
I feel the pain
#9Consumer Comment
Thu, March 09, 2006
I'd just like to say, I feel Jose's pain. I don't believe this company cares about their customers, the quality of thier work, or their reputation.
The subcontractors they work with don't seem to care about the quality of work they provide either. They just slap stuff together quickley and get out of town. There are parts of my uncompleted pool which look like crap and needs to be fixed. Of course I'm not holding my breath waiting on this.
They have not done anything when they said they would. Generally the things done are a week to 2 weeks after the stated date. I don't beleive they are very honest.
Answering phones and returning calls. What a JOKE!
Would it be worth my time and money to get an Attorney?
Suzy
Anytown,Florida,
U.S.A.
I feel the pain
#9Consumer Comment
Thu, March 09, 2006
I'd just like to say, I feel Jose's pain. I don't believe this company cares about their customers, the quality of thier work, or their reputation.
The subcontractors they work with don't seem to care about the quality of work they provide either. They just slap stuff together quickley and get out of town. There are parts of my uncompleted pool which look like crap and needs to be fixed. Of course I'm not holding my breath waiting on this.
They have not done anything when they said they would. Generally the things done are a week to 2 weeks after the stated date. I don't beleive they are very honest.
Answering phones and returning calls. What a JOKE!
Would it be worth my time and money to get an Attorney?
Suzy
Anytown,Florida,
U.S.A.
I feel the pain
#9Consumer Comment
Thu, March 09, 2006
I'd just like to say, I feel Jose's pain. I don't believe this company cares about their customers, the quality of thier work, or their reputation.
The subcontractors they work with don't seem to care about the quality of work they provide either. They just slap stuff together quickley and get out of town. There are parts of my uncompleted pool which look like crap and needs to be fixed. Of course I'm not holding my breath waiting on this.
They have not done anything when they said they would. Generally the things done are a week to 2 weeks after the stated date. I don't beleive they are very honest.
Answering phones and returning calls. What a JOKE!
Would it be worth my time and money to get an Attorney?
Jose
Haines City,Florida,
U.S.A.
BBB SUPENDED THEIR MEMBERSHIP!!!!!!!
#9Author of original report
Fri, February 17, 2006
AN ALL NEW LOWWWWW...
WHERE THEY HAD THEIR BBB LOGO THEY NOW HAVE A LOGO OF A NATIONAL POOL & SPA INSTITUTE WHICH IS A INSTITUE FROM AFRICA
HAAAAA FUNNY .....
WHICH HAS A DISCLAMER THAT SAY'S IN BREAKING NEWS
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COMPLAINTS FROM THE BBB.
http://www.orlando.bbb.org/newsearch2.asp?ComID=0733004003632
Jose
Haines City,Florida,
U.S.A.
10 Months & One Lawyer Later... Do they favoratize?
#9Author of original report
Mon, January 16, 2006
Still nothing I Guess pat favortizes on some people cause i have spoken to 2 other people that are not very happy with award pool. My sales agent was Santiago Serna that was very polite at the time of the Sale and I asked what i thought was the most important question which was how long would it take and his answer was 6-12 weeks. I also asked him what has been the longest and shortest time and he said shortest as 3 weeks long as 12 weeks. Before Award pools I had Gator pools give me an Estimate and also American pool which were cheaper but i like the design Award gave me and there selling point which was so they say that they build there pool better than gator and american pools so he said. Santiago did not say that the pavers would take additional time nor any of the other upgrades that i had picked. This is the first experiance I have had with a pool company and i would never refer them to anyone not even my enemy. I don't thinks it right what they are doing to me..
Do they favortize?
Look at their track records for yourself and tell me that the're a good company!!!!
as of 1/15/06 21 complaints
http://www.orlando.bbb.org/newsearch2.asp?ComID=0733004003632
Patrick
Orlando,Florida,
U.S.A.
"How should I be" Article posted about Award Pools
#9Consumer Suggestion
Mon, January 09, 2006
To whom it may concern,
This is my response to the "How should I be" Article posted about Award Pools. First I would like to state that I am a 5 time in ground pool owner. I am very familiar with payment schedules concerning a pool purchase. I also am very familiar with the construction process in which it takes to build a pool. I had my first pool built by Anthony Pools. Three additional pools I had constructed by Anthony & Sylvan Pools.I am from up North in Pennsylvania. Pools need to be constructed stronger in the northern states due to how the winter months vastly age a pool.
After I had moved to Orlando Florida my first agenda was to have a pool constructed at my new home. This is the climate to get year round enjoyment out of owning an in ground pool. To my dismay I had found out that Anthony & Sylvan Pools was not constructing pools in Orlando Florida. Anthony & Sylvan pools constructs the best quality pool your money can buy. This is when my interview process for Orlando based pool companies began. I had at least 10 pool companies out to my house. Just to name a few...Artesian Pools, American Pools, Florida Pools, Dixie Pools,Blue Haven Pools and Erickson Pools.
I came to find out after having these 10 companies to my home. That in some cases I knew more than some pool companies in proper construction, filtration and Maintenance for a pool. Knowledge like this comes with experience from being a 5 time pool owner. The cutbacks in material certain companies make is amazing. No 8" Bond Beam construction, The pool is plumbed with 1' and half pipe and they stick you with a tiny bucket that is supposed to be a filter. You would think that because they make so many cutbacks in the quality of a pool in Florida that it would reflect in a lower priced pool. Well that is not the case.
I began to get frustrated and was not going to risk a 40k investment to purchase a pool that was going to fall apart and be nothing but a headache. My Wife and family still insisted that they wanted a pool. So I decided to call my sales representative from Anthony & Sylvan Pools in Pennsylvania. I explained to him the interviews I had with the above named companies in Orlando. He understood my frustration completely. He then told me that his sister lives in Orlando and had a pool built with a very good company. He basically told me that the company that constructed his sister's pool builds their pools almost to the same quality of excellence that Anthony & Sylvan does. I asked him for the name of the company and he said Award Pools.
I looked up Award pools in the yellow pages and set an appointment with them. One of the owners had came to my house Patrick Pitts. As soon as he came into my house I felt as though I was in good hands. Everything he did was reminiscent to my previous pool purchase from Anthony & Sylvan Pools. Pat explained to me the materials and methods used in constructing an Award Pool. To my surprise it had the same recipe of quality that Anthony & Sylvan had provided to me in the past. Needles to say the price was right also. So I decided to enter into an agreement to build my fifth pool with Award Pools.
Pat went over everything with me. Payment schedule, the construction process, permit paperwork and building my pool to proper codes and safety regulations provided by Orange County. Pat told me that it would take about 2-3 weeks for my permits and Home owners association to be approved in Orange County. He also explained the differences to me that the time frame varies from county to county for permits and home owners associations in different subdivisions. He then said that once my permits were approved "2-3 weeks" that they would break ground and that the overall construction process would be 8-12 weeks. This 8-12 weeks was for my pool to be dug, steel to be applied, the pool to be gunited and my electrical and plumbing as well. This was also about the same time frame that it had took to build my 4 previous owned pools. But I decided for this pool that I wanted to go with a brick paver deck. Pat told me that there could be an additional 3-4 week delay in addition to the 8-12 week overall pool construction for my custom paver deck. Pat told me that if I elected to go with the regular concrete deck that there would be no delay. However I was willing to wait because I liked the appearance that a brick paver deck provides.
The payment schedule by the Award Pools agreement of sale was almost identical to the 10 previous pool companies had out to my house. I had given Pat a 10% down payment at the initial signing. He subtracted that off of the total purchase price of the pool. This was also clearly displayed on my agreement that I had given a 10% down payment. There were 4 payments to be made to Award Pools during my construction process. The payment schedule went as follows: 40% on day of excavation"Pool Dig" 40% on day of Gunite"Concrete pool shell" 17% on the day of tile installation, and 3% due prior to interior finish "Pool finish walls steps and floor". Pat also explained to me because I had purchased a screen enclosure that the screen is put up and then I pay the last 3% for the interior finish to be applied.
Well the process and payment schedule went just the way Pat had explained to me. It also followed the wording on my agreement of sale with Award Pools. I gave their Construction Manager my scheduled payments as he was at my residence to inspect my pool process as every step was completed. I Even saved not to pay for postage. Everything went Exactly the way Patrick Pitts said it would when he sold me my 5th pool. I now own another pool which I am proud of and is constructed to last. I referred 4 of my neighbors to use Award Pools and there construction process has been a pleasure for them as well. I look forward to use Award Pools again for my next pool purchase. I certainly hope that the pool construction process I have explained here may clarify any misunderstandings concerning proper payment and timeframe for pool construction. I also feel you may have been mislead by a smooth talking salesman maybe because it would appear that there are allot of misunderstandings on your part. I hope the information I provided helps you thru the rest of your pool construction. I can tell you that you do have a very well made pool being constructed. Please read your agreement of sale and see if the payment schedule reads just as mine does. I feel that will clarify allot of this yp for you. Also inspections by the county can hold you up as well.