B2G Institute Big promises, few results Orlando Florida
My wife and I just spent 24 hours at a three day seminar supposedly learning how to sell to the government. The cost was $4490.00. The initial meeting with the B2G Institute promised easy sales to the Federal Government as a reseller with profits ranging from five to 20%. The instructors suggested a one in four winning bid ratio or possibly one in three. Many success stories were related with resellers making thousands selling shirts, furniture etc.
We were bombarded with information, most of which didn't pertain to reselling. The presentation included a fancy slide show and we were given work books to take notes during the presentation. During the 24 hours, four and a half hours were actually devoted to reselling with the remainder addressing GSA contracts, RFQ's and other information we didn't need. There was also a sales pitch for additional training, assistance and software which ranged from $3995.00 to $30,000.00.
With great enthusiasm we poured through the information and the many web sites that had been provided. After registering at multiple web sites we began the bid process and bid on 30 or 40 items the government required. We conservatively expected to win 20% of the bids but found the competition to be fierce, something that had never been addressed at the seminar. We found bids being awarded with a profit of $100.00 on a $18,000.00 contract. That doesn't look like 5% to me. We haven't won a single bid.
Beware of the B2G Institute and remember, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is. A search on the web shows 100's of people who feel scammed by B2G. We paid too much for too little and a class action lawsuit is probably the only way to recover. Others who feel scammed should reply.
Rocky
Salt Lake City, Utah
U.S.A.
4 Updates & Rebuttals
Fred Steinberg
Orlando,Florida,
U.S.A.
Rocky's report is a hoax
#5UPDATE Employee
Mon, June 22, 2009
We have no record of any 'Rocky' ever attending one of our workshops, nor have we received any direct complaints from anyone named 'Rocky'.
Evidence that Rocky is fabricating his claims:
(1) He says that he and his wife JUST attended our workshop, and has already lost 30-40 bids. It's obviously not possible to submit so many bids in such a short time.
(2) If Rocky did submit 30-40 bids in such a short time, they could not have been quality bids. B2G Institute can't be responsible for Rocky's shoddy work.
(3) Rocky complains that there was too little time spent on reselling, and too much on areas he did not understand. B2G Institute's students don't come to our seminars to learn what they already know, they come to learn about things they don't already know. If Rusty had paid better attention to some of the other sessions, he may be doing better now.
(4) When students are confused with important issues, we offer them additional help. Although Rocky calls this a sales pitch, the offer is certainly one from which any struggling contractor stands to benefit.
Our students and clients love our services. We could not have succeeded for so long if we were not delivering value.
'Rocky' is either not doing his homework, does not understand the governments requirements, is selling something that the government doesn't buy (they're the biggest customer in the world, but they stopped buying buggy whips and asbestos long ago), or is overpricing his products. 'Rocky' talks about class actions suits before he even contacts us directly that we might respond to his concerns.
If 'Rocky' has a genuine problem, I would like to resolve it. I've identified myself so that I can help 'Rocky'.
If 'Rocky' wants a satisfactory conclusion, he need only come forward and identify himself as I have. If he does not, the most likely conclusion is that 'Rocky' is a disgruntled former employee or jealous competitor.
Fred Steinberg
Orlando,Florida,
U.S.A.
Rocky's report is a hoax
#5UPDATE Employee
Mon, June 22, 2009
We have no record of any 'Rocky' ever attending one of our workshops, nor have we received any direct complaints from anyone named 'Rocky'.
Evidence that Rocky is fabricating his claims:
(1) He says that he and his wife JUST attended our workshop, and has already lost 30-40 bids. It's obviously not possible to submit so many bids in such a short time.
(2) If Rocky did submit 30-40 bids in such a short time, they could not have been quality bids. B2G Institute can't be responsible for Rocky's shoddy work.
(3) Rocky complains that there was too little time spent on reselling, and too much on areas he did not understand. B2G Institute's students don't come to our seminars to learn what they already know, they come to learn about things they don't already know. If Rusty had paid better attention to some of the other sessions, he may be doing better now.
(4) When students are confused with important issues, we offer them additional help. Although Rocky calls this a sales pitch, the offer is certainly one from which any struggling contractor stands to benefit.
Our students and clients love our services. We could not have succeeded for so long if we were not delivering value.
'Rocky' is either not doing his homework, does not understand the governments requirements, is selling something that the government doesn't buy (they're the biggest customer in the world, but they stopped buying buggy whips and asbestos long ago), or is overpricing his products. 'Rocky' talks about class actions suits before he even contacts us directly that we might respond to his concerns.
If 'Rocky' has a genuine problem, I would like to resolve it. I've identified myself so that I can help 'Rocky'.
If 'Rocky' wants a satisfactory conclusion, he need only come forward and identify himself as I have. If he does not, the most likely conclusion is that 'Rocky' is a disgruntled former employee or jealous competitor.
Fred Steinberg
Orlando,Florida,
U.S.A.
Rocky's report is a hoax
#5UPDATE Employee
Mon, June 22, 2009
We have no record of any 'Rocky' ever attending one of our workshops, nor have we received any direct complaints from anyone named 'Rocky'.
Evidence that Rocky is fabricating his claims:
(1) He says that he and his wife JUST attended our workshop, and has already lost 30-40 bids. It's obviously not possible to submit so many bids in such a short time.
(2) If Rocky did submit 30-40 bids in such a short time, they could not have been quality bids. B2G Institute can't be responsible for Rocky's shoddy work.
(3) Rocky complains that there was too little time spent on reselling, and too much on areas he did not understand. B2G Institute's students don't come to our seminars to learn what they already know, they come to learn about things they don't already know. If Rusty had paid better attention to some of the other sessions, he may be doing better now.
(4) When students are confused with important issues, we offer them additional help. Although Rocky calls this a sales pitch, the offer is certainly one from which any struggling contractor stands to benefit.
Our students and clients love our services. We could not have succeeded for so long if we were not delivering value.
'Rocky' is either not doing his homework, does not understand the governments requirements, is selling something that the government doesn't buy (they're the biggest customer in the world, but they stopped buying buggy whips and asbestos long ago), or is overpricing his products. 'Rocky' talks about class actions suits before he even contacts us directly that we might respond to his concerns.
If 'Rocky' has a genuine problem, I would like to resolve it. I've identified myself so that I can help 'Rocky'.
If 'Rocky' wants a satisfactory conclusion, he need only come forward and identify himself as I have. If he does not, the most likely conclusion is that 'Rocky' is a disgruntled former employee or jealous competitor.
Fred Steinberg
Orlando,Florida,
U.S.A.
Rocky's report is a hoax
#5UPDATE Employee
Mon, June 22, 2009
We have no record of any 'Rocky' ever attending one of our workshops, nor have we received any direct complaints from anyone named 'Rocky'.
Evidence that Rocky is fabricating his claims:
(1) He says that he and his wife JUST attended our workshop, and has already lost 30-40 bids. It's obviously not possible to submit so many bids in such a short time.
(2) If Rocky did submit 30-40 bids in such a short time, they could not have been quality bids. B2G Institute can't be responsible for Rocky's shoddy work.
(3) Rocky complains that there was too little time spent on reselling, and too much on areas he did not understand. B2G Institute's students don't come to our seminars to learn what they already know, they come to learn about things they don't already know. If Rusty had paid better attention to some of the other sessions, he may be doing better now.
(4) When students are confused with important issues, we offer them additional help. Although Rocky calls this a sales pitch, the offer is certainly one from which any struggling contractor stands to benefit.
Our students and clients love our services. We could not have succeeded for so long if we were not delivering value.
'Rocky' is either not doing his homework, does not understand the governments requirements, is selling something that the government doesn't buy (they're the biggest customer in the world, but they stopped buying buggy whips and asbestos long ago), or is overpricing his products. 'Rocky' talks about class actions suits before he even contacts us directly that we might respond to his concerns.
If 'Rocky' has a genuine problem, I would like to resolve it. I've identified myself so that I can help 'Rocky'.
If 'Rocky' wants a satisfactory conclusion, he need only come forward and identify himself as I have. If he does not, the most likely conclusion is that 'Rocky' is a disgruntled former employee or jealous competitor.