berttramkennethnormanstern Michael lisi art gallery i purchased 5 Bert Stern Marilyn Monroes signed prints and they were freshly made fakes with ink that rubbed off. ebay and New York
I purchased 5 Bert Stern Marilyn Monroe signed prints off Michael Lisi and Bert tram Kenneth Norman stern and paid 125400 dollars plus 150 dollars shipping. These items were described as in perfect condition, when I received them they turned up with a photocopied coa that someone just wrote Bert Stern Marilyn Monroe on. Nothing in the coa said anything about the actual photo I purchased. The actual photo was of really bad quality as if a proper company wasn't used to print it and as if someone had used a really cheap printer. The ink on the photo was smudged and looked like it had been applied yesterday but apparantly was made in 2011 when Bert Stern was alive. I found these two companies that sold me the prints on eBay on Art net a well known company for Bert Stern and who is selling their prints and they said they weren't responsible and to contact a Laura laboratory ? I had the name Michael Lisi who had purchased quite a lot from Berttramkennethnormanstern on eBay. Berttramkennethnormanstern already has bad feedback on eBay for ripping someone else off on eBay refusing to send out photos unless they paid them another 500 dollars. No response has been made from the eBay seller.
5 Updates & Rebuttals
Michael Crawford
New York ,New York,
USA
Lisa LAVENDER Bert Stern liar, theif.
#6Consumer Comment
Wed, October 21, 2015
Lisa is a downright liar. In the last report by her she said she has never sold a copy that isnt signed by Bert Stern, but yet Ongalleries have high quality photocopies of her work she has produced under the name of Stern/Lavender check it out for yourself. This is a blantant lie!!! Check her eBay account out , and you will see she has blank coas available . she isn't anything but a dumb model and Bert was a pervert and that's how she had some signed prints , she has admitted to using Bert Stern for his money. She never paid for any of the signed prints but was so greedy that when she couldn't sell them in galleries shed get so mad and lashed out at me last week when I questioned her further on the authenticity . you know someone who got something for free but wants 7000 usd each print with many being suspiciously not really signed by Bert Stern as she can't produce an actual coa that correspondes to the print is one greedy person. There are those of us who work for a living and those who decide to becomd prostitutes and sell naked photos of themselves and take advantage of an old man to get their hands on his items. I believe now Lisa has ran out of original Bert Stern's and now is photo copying them. Have you seen her eBay sales (non existant ) that's cause the public now know she is fake.
The Twins with Bert Stern 20 years
ny ,New York,
USA
The COA style has been the same since 2002
#6REBUTTAL Individual responds
Sun, October 11, 2015
Bert has made the same COA since I began to sell for him in 2002. He used the same COA, and yes it was printed by him. He really did not care to make COAs so he made a general one for me, and printed them. As for knowing who I am? I have never kept my identification hidden. It is ovivous you never bought one print from me.. Anyone that has bought from me, knows who I am.. I was and am the only personal seller for Bert Stern since 2002. Like I said before, he was family to me and my sister for 20 years. He entrusted his business with me. We saw him everyday. We only sell originals, signed, dated, copryight stamped on the verso, and come with his printed COA, which was dated, and signed by him..
I have used Ebay to reach out to many galleries and collectors all over the world and has become a very strong lucrative business. They never complained, for I was professional, and very communicative and friendly with all my buyers and bidders. Ebay, was a fruitful advertisement for me to offer prints at a great price as well. So, if you say you just found me out, well, sorry you never bought a print from me. You are obviously trying to impune me, my photos, and COA etc. In this process, you are disparraging me, for nefarious reasons and now all will see and realize your intentions. By the way, I have records of all the buyers purchases since 2002. I see you are from Alabama? I never sold one photo to Alabama.
Lisa is a witch
#6Author of original report
Sat, October 10, 2015
Also this Lisa who says by her own admission that she practice's in black magic and says she's a witch. Isnt as honest as you may believe. Check out her feedback. eBay refused to remove it and this says she scammed someone after paying her money she didn't send the prints unless they gave her more postage money. Now she's changed her postage price as soon as this report was filed. Come on Lisa show us some coas that aren't photocopied. Write your name or logo over them if you are frightened if someone copies them.
Lisa Bert Stern liar, theif.
#6Author of original report
Sat, October 10, 2015
Hello Lisa, I didn't even know your name until I did some digging. What is this you are rambling on about . it goes to show I'm not the only complaining customer I am a he not a she. I repeat myself I purchased 5 Bert Stern's on eBay from you that have turned out to be fakes . brand new ink applied. Cheap quality , photocopied coas that have nothing to do with the print . I have nothing to do with you shill bidding on eBay and hiding your name on eBay (that's for people with something to hide). Come and defend yourself again. Show the world 5 more photocopied coas . I'm sure Bert sold a proper coa new ink not photocopied coas with each print he sold. Explain why you have photocopied coas . when you buy a signed photo with a coa you don't receive a photocopy coa that has nothing to do with the print. Explain that one dumb***.
The Twins with Bert Stern 20 years
ny ,New York,
USA
This is a complete lie, I never sold to this person
#6REBUTTAL Owner of company
Sat, October 10, 2015
I have Known Bert for 20 years, saw him everyday, took care of him with my twin sister.. This woman, who has tried to buy and bid on my photos on ebay, just to cause trouble the last 6 months.I tried to assist her, for only her to creat more badgering for me to comply. she has consistiently berated me with terrible name calling. Actually, She needs to be stopped.. As fo Michalel Lisi, he is a repectable gallery and only ONE I have have sold to in the last 20 years. He does not deserve this condenscation.
I only have signed, dated, editioned, photos given to me directly from Bert.. I saw him every day. I am astounded by the jealousy and hatred by this woman.. But I never ever signed over a photo, nor I have ever forged a photo of Bert Stern.. My sister and I took care of Bert, we cooked for him, took care of his house, and cared and loved him as a father. I was very happy to make for him a lot of money selling prints, on Ebay, Artnet and other auctions houses, and around the world.
This lousy person has deliberaltey opened and continued to open new ebay member with zero feedbacks and is committing Fraud. I had to stop the bidding on ebay, past 3 months now, becasue she will bid to up to 10,000 dollars. I now offer the prints to by it now or best offer, so now she can only leave me with fees of 160.00. and she continues to open a new account with Ebay..
She is a miserable ugly person and with no avail, I can not deal with her. She never bought a print from me or Michael Lisi.. She is a very unhappy person, using the internet to try to destroy those that have success.
I am and will say, I am the most honest, truthful seller.. I would never nor ever need to forge a signature or sell a copy, I only sell Originals, signed, dated, and copyright stamped on the verso, and come with a signed, dated, COA.
And again, I never sold to this person, this is blasphemy.. She is mandascious, and perfidious..