Blue Dog RV They Sold Us An Rv New With Issues - Not Repairing . Been in Blue Dog service 6 months. Gresham Oregon
Rv was damaged when they told us to come get it. We had driven to Idaho and they said they would fix it. They have not. Blue Dog has not responded to phone calls or emails. Dropped RV off at Gresham location July 6, 2017 and now Dec 7,2017 so they have had a new $120k Grand Design Momentum trailer going on 6 months for repair. The Blie Dog service dept ran into side of it and gashed wall with a Fork lift on their lot and have not responded to that being repaired. It’s freezing and they have not responded to requests to winterize it in Portland. Blue Dog guy threatened me. Other guy at Blue Dog would only answer questions I asked to my husband. Lost rv places we had on reserve on coast, costing money for hotels and rent other rvs . Lost use of this over summer.
My husband is handicapped and retired. Still making payments while RV depreciates on their lot. Tried calling and emailing for time frame of repair and when parts were ordered and no response coming back. When we bought it new rv had issues and Blue Dog said to take rv and they would fix it. I happened to see their service guys on ladders in back lot hammering on awnings to get them to go in and out. They said this was fixed. Awnings did not work. Took to Gresham and when I went in to see what repairs were made they threatened me and also when they tried to make awnings work that they said they had fixed for the umpteenth time, awnings right on lot with service guy did not work. Now they are not answering Phone calls or emails. The rv has been on their lot going on 6 months and they ran into the side of it and no word of this is repaired to prevent snow damage .
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RV EXPERT witness
Scottsdale,United States
Brenda I’m posting this for you please read every word RV expert TELLS ALL PLEASE ALL OF THIS
#2Consumer Comment
Wed, January 03, 2018
riddle I’m so sorry for your troubles please read everything and I’m getting ready to post here below because I put this up here for a reason I put this up here so if any RV buyer plans to sue their RV dealership and they hire an attorney I provide attorneys with inside information about the RV industry hopefully so this will help clean up the RV industry mess After you read all of this I please ask you to post your comments I want to hear from you as to what you think about what I’ve posted I’m also going to do something that most are the technicians do not do they do not tell you how explosive LP gas is because they do not understand it themselves
Please read the inside information below about how explosive LP gas really is then you will understand why it’s very important that all RV DEALSHIPS should be required by law to do a complete predelivery inspection of every aspect of the motorhome before they place it on the lot for sale not after the customer comes back with a long list of complaints and LP gas system checks should be documented as far as every possible opportunity for the LP gas to have a leak and they should also document the pressure coming out of the regulator and elite downtime check . BUT NO, THEY DONT WANT TO DO THAT Maybe because it cost time and money
Brenda I’m asking you please post your comments on this
I’m sorry for your troubles and I want to post some helpful information for you and many other RV buyers. Several years ago I own a RV repair business and I got so many complaints of people buying brand new motor homes and have had so much troubles with defective components and this should never happen especially on a brand new motorhome.
There are so many RV dealerships that sell brand new motor homes that refused to do any pre-delivery inspections before they place these motorhomes on the lot for sale. I personally believe that many of these RV dealerships refuse to do these predelivery inspection because they do not want to pay their staff to do it. Instead they would rather you buy the motorhome and bring it back and activate a warranty claim then the RV dealership gets paid to do the work.
I offer my services to attorneys that represent RV buyers at no cost to show them what to look for when they activate a lawsuit against any RV dealership of their choice .
One of the most important things that should be checked out on a brand new motorhome is the LP gas system and let me explain how explosive propane really is
Most RV technicians do not understand the expansion rate of propane here are the facts
If you have 1 gallon of propane in the tank it’s in a liquid form under pressure inside of the tank if that 1 gallon of liquid propane is released into the atmosphere because of a leak that one liquid gallon will expand a 270 gallons of explosive vapor.
1. 5 gallons of propane is equal to 1350 gallons of explosive vapor
2. 25 gallons of propane is equal to 6750 gallons of explosive vapor
3. 50 gallons of propane in the tank is equal to 13,500 gallons of explosive vapor.
Now I am sure that you would like to know if you buy it brand new or used motorhome you want to know if the LP gas system leaks or not. Ask your favorite RV dealership if they can show you the predelivery inspection documentation or the motorhome that you purchased and ask them to show you that leak down test results before you buy a motorhome never after you sign a contract.
If they can’t provide you with this kind of documentation you need to get up and walk out and refused to part with your money. When you buy a brand new motorhome you want the experience of enjoying a brand new motor home without any troubles, just like for the most part when you buy a new car.
A law firm in my past hired me to go up against one of the biggest RV dealerships in the country and I proved that the dealership was submitting fraudulent documents with Gord signatures on a predelivery inspection report. I prove to the judge that the document and forge signatures and a proper predelivery inspection was never done on the motorhome and after evaluating the motorhome which was a brand new motorhome I documented 27 pages of repairs that the motorhome need it I made a believer out of the court that the motorhome should’ve never been on the market for sale until after everything was fixed not after he was sold.
Remember you can’t get any TV station or News Reporter Politician Reviews to do any stories on fraudulent misrepresentation RV sales because they get a lot of money from RV dealerships in the form of advertising money.
Every RV fire should always go to Rip Off Report and read the reports that have been posted over the years before you go to any dealership of your choice.
Now I encourage you to go to RipOffReport.com on the homepage just a little ways down on the right-hand side you will see Rip Off Report live.
Go to that page and scroll down a little bit on the right-hand side once again and look at the black audio player and listen to the very top number one show listen to it completely that’s me reveaking scams in the RV industry. Listen to that show a couple of times the second show was me talking about scams in the automotive industry. Any law firm who knows what they’re doing when it comes to RV dealership cases that’s worth a grain of salt would agree with everything that I say.
Please do your homework before you part within leave your money please continue to read some of this information that I’m going to post below this is a predelivery inspection check sheet list that RV dealership should be using but they don’t because they don’t want to pay for it.
BEST REGUARDS YOUR RV BUYER ADVOCATE....
The most important functions of an RV are not listed on their list. Items like the
1. LP gas furnace does it leak LP GAS ?
2. The LP gas hot water heater.
3. The LP gas stove.
4. The LP gas refrigerator.
5. The ammonia gas system in the refrigerator does it leak ?
6. The power supply converting 110 V AC over to 12 V DC.
7. The complete plumbing system does it leak ?
8. Does the plumbing system have a water pressure regulator
9. The sewage system the black water and the graywater tanks do they leak ?
10. All of the 12 V system batteries ? Are they holding a charge
11. Does the complete electrical system on the 12 V DC side have any battery drains ?
12. The air conditioning systems the dash AC and the roof AC do they work properly.
13. Does the roof AC unit look like it's properly secured to the roof where it will not leak water when it rains ?
14. Does the shower or the toilet leak water underneath that wood rot the wood out under Neath the shower or the toilet ?
15. The water pump for the RV aspect of the motorhome does it leak it does it maintain normal operating pressure ?
16. Does any aspect of the RV have rotten wood ?
17. Does the LP gas system have leaks anywhere throughout the system ?
18 does the LP gas regulator maintain a normal operating pressure without league downs ?
19 does the RV come with all of the owners manuals for safe and normal operation knowledge ?
20 does the RV have leveling jacks to do the work without hydraulic leaks?
21 has the LP gas furnace been checked for any carbon oxide leaks ? Which can be deadly if not check properly ....
22. When driving the motorhome does the motorhome engine charge the RV batteries properly ?
23. Does the motorhome have slide outs and are they properly aligned so they do not create drag to wear out the electric motors ? I could make this list five times longer.
I could go on for days when it comes to RVs and complete system checks. If someone's only going to charge you a couple of hundred dollars for a complete system check on the motorhome they are an idiot because they don't know what they're doing they don't know the complete systems of a motorhome you cannot take a RV to an automotive shop and have it checked out it's completely different then a car or a pick up truck or a little minivan.
Whoever created this business model has no clue what they're doing. I feel their business model is to refer you to local automotive shops to have your cars and vans and pick up trucks checked out and they are the middleman to make money on work they've never done. The above is my opinion.
When a RV dealership does not perform an LP gas system leak check is that a safe situation for the consumer or a unsafe situation for the consumer ??