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Complaint Review: Bohn's Shihtzu's

Bohn's Shihtzu's Unethical Breeder Ripoff Rosco Illinois

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    Dixon Illinois
  • Submitted:
    Wed, August 09, 2006
  • Updated:
    Sat, August 16, 2008
  • Bohn's Shihtzu's
    angelfire.com/ab7/bohns_shih_tzus/
    Rosco, Illinois
    U.S.A.
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Deanne Bohn is listing her stud JOJO as having Champion Lines. He does not. I have his Pedigree. I used him as a stud. She also states she has tiny type shihtzus. JoJo is about 14 lbs and pruduces imbibical hernias. I know it is coming from her line b/c I breed her my new stud no hernias. I have seen him. He is not 10 lbs as she states. My Molly is 10 lbs. Her biggest puppy from JoJo ended up to be 16 lbs. I have seen Molly's parents and they are small like molly. So don't be fooled by her Like I was. She is also talking bad about other breeders she does not know to make her self look good.
Buyer Beware.

Sharon
Dixon, Illinois
U.S.A.

8 Updates & Rebuttals


Puppyowner

El Paso,
Illinois,
U.S.A.

Deanna is an excellent breeder with great integretity

#9Consumer Comment

Fri, August 15, 2008

I have personally purchased a puppy from Deanna and it was an excellent experience all the way around. First let me say, at no point did she try to say there was a waiting list that didn't exist. We had the first pick of the litter in question as we reserved ahead of time, she informed us we would have first pick as we were the first people to put down the required deposit and she stuck to that, even in her email list she said to everyone included that there were plenty of puppies (It was a big litter this time) ready to go to a good family. She unlike many breeders also didn't try to sell the runts of her litter as "Tea Cup" breeds which don't exist with the AKC and are Runts and nothing more. Her puppies when I visited her house were all excellent in size and the "Daycare" i haven't heard about, her kids were playing with the puppies though.

Overall a great experience and she even suggested some great books for training.


Amber

Harlan,
Iowa,
U.S.A.

My experience with Deanna...

#9Consumer Comment

Tue, July 08, 2008

I know this is old news now, but I just wanted to put my two cents in.

Deanna first contacted me over a year ago when she was interested in purchasing a puppy from us. She has a lot more breeding experience than myself and when something started going wrong with this particular litter, she did everything in her power to give me advice and get advice from her own vet to give to me. (Multiple pieces of advice and help along the way are priceless!) She spent many hours answering my questions and giving suggestions as to what could possibly be wrong. Sadly, the puppy didn't survive, but I'm still very thankful to Deanna for all of the time and advice she gave to me.

If she's that much help when she's purchasing a puppy from someone, I can only imagine how helpful and kind she is when you are the one doing the purchasing from her. I would gladly buy a puppy from her any day and would highly recommend her.


Heidi

Beloit,
Wisconsin,
U.S.A.

Recommendation to act you age not your I.Q or shoe size

#9Consumer Suggestion

Wed, December 06, 2006

Whatever lady. Or no actually that is too proper of a word for an uneducated backyard breeder such as yourself. I am going to give you a hint here. This is not "Deanna" nor am I a friend of Deanna. I am a business relationship only. I was not put up to leaving any type of comment. I simply did a search and her name came up due to your countless hours of having nothing better to do than leaving these childish postings. So thank - you o' illiterate one for introducing me to this site. It has been rather charming to see how low the scum of the earth can go to be hateful. I have had excellent success with breeding to Jo Jo. And if you in fact have a 10 generation pedigree - FRAME it. They are almost impossible to come by. Or better yet feel free to post it "mouth" if you feel it's necessary. At least then people do not have to listen to your crazy insinuations that you obviously cannot prove. Jo JO is 11 pounds and if Deanna has the ability to alter the veterinarian's records that were obtained from her vet by myself personally - well than she is more powerful than you know. As far as the Puppyfind and other sources, it seems to me that you have posted to these sites as well. Is that not where people post their animals to sell? To say that she is desperate to post there than you are slamming all of us that list and I am sure that I am not the only one to take offense to that. Perhaps if you focused more on your own rip off postings about your company and entering rebuttals you wouldn't have this much time on your hands to post unfounded accusations about excellent breeders. Good luck in the future. You obviously need it. And many thanks to Heidi in Seaford New York who also agrees with your inability to be a decent person.

Fell free to post something else you facecious person you- the times post too. We all know you are watching to make your next move. Pathetic!!!
P.S. If you need help with the "big" words you should be able to find most of them in your red neck version of the dictionary. Again good luck in your quest.


Heidi

Beloit,
Wisconsin,
U.S.A.

Wasting too much time on an idiot who can't spell

#9Consumer Suggestion

Wed, December 06, 2006

Whatever lady. Or no actually that is too proper of a word for an uneducated backyard breeder such as yourself. I am going to give you a hint here. This is not "Deanna" nor am I a friend of Deanna. I am a business relationship only. I was not put up to leaving any type of comment. I simply did a search and her name came up due to your countless hours of having nothing better to do than leaving these childish postings. So thank - you o' illiterate one for introducing me to this site. It has been rather charming to see how low the scum of the earth can go to be hateful. I have had excellent success with breeding to Jo Jo. And if you in fact have a 10 generation pedigree - FRAME it. They are almost impossible to come by. Or better yet feel free to post it "mouth" if you feel it's necessary. At least then people do not have to listen to your crazy insinuations that you obviously cannot prove. Jo JO is 11 pounds and if Deanna has the ability to alter the veterinarian's records that were obtained from her vet by myself personally - well than she is more powerful than you know. As far as the Puppyfind and other sources, it seems to me that you have posted to these sites as well. Is that not where people post their animals to sell? To say that she is desperate to post there than you are slamming all of us that list and I am sure that I am not the only one to take offense to that. Perhaps if you focused more on your own rip off postings about your company and entering rebuttals you wouldn't have this much time on your hands to post unfounded accusations about excellent breeders. Good luck in the future. You obviously need it. And many thanks to Heidi in Seaford New York who also agrees with your inability to be a decent person.

Fell free to post something else you facecious person you- the times post too. We all know you are watching to make your next move. Pathetic!!!
P.S. If you need help with the "big" words you should be able to find most of them in your red neck version of the dictionary. Again good luck in your quest.


Sharon

Dixon,
Illinois,
U.S.A.

Deanne Is The Unhappy One!

#9Author of original report

Mon, December 04, 2006

I am not an unhappy person. Deanne is the one who stated slandering me and fellow breeders. She even back stabs her so called friends. She has nothing I would be jealous about. I think people should see how she is. If she HAS a so called waiting why is it she still has puppies for sale a long time now on puppyfind not sold. If she had a waiting list she would not have use puppyfind or sources. She would not have to advertise her Puppies. You are probably Deanne herself. Why is it her post has been on here for a few months? It is pretty bad that it took her this long to find someone to stick up for her. She may not have found someone so she wrote the responses herself. Yes I bring up the daycare thing to show how dishonest this lady is.
Those two Champion lines are not in Jojo's 5 generation pedigree. That is where most people look for the Champion lines from the parents of the puppy not 10 generations down. I feel she is not really being honest about the lines. I know for a fact JOJo is NOT 11 LBs. Just look at his Picture on her site and you can see how big he is. He is much taller and longer than the adverage 10-11 lbs Shihtzu.

You state " It was your unhappiness with her that should have been handled in an adult manner." Well let me tell you. Do you call her calling me day and nite and phone harrassing for 3-4 wks an adult MANNER. She even cursed my 14 yr old Daughter out. YOU evidently don't know what an adult manner is??? It was her that was unhappy with me that brought us to this point. SO Get the facts right!!!!

YOU also state the stud being mature before breeding this is also something again Deanne should have pointed out since is is supposed to have many years of breeding. If that were true than why would she attempt the breeding!!! This shows again Deanne is the unethical Breeder here!!!! Get your facts correct!!! You are Not any help to Deanne, you are only making her look bad.


Heidi

Beloit,
Wisconsin,
U.S.A.

Not having word battles with someone over Deanna

#9Consumer Suggestion

Mon, December 04, 2006

For whatever reason you obviously did not get the gist of the rebuttal. Let me start by saying that- Again Who is talking bad about whom? And to bring a daycare situation into this matter was not the context of this situation. It was your unhappiness with her that should have been handled in an adult manner. Which at this point I truly believe that you are incapable of.

I have had wonderful experiences with Deanna - please note the correct spelling of her name - which you repeatedly fail to spell incorrectly. And if you truly have been to her house, know so much about her and claim to be her friend - one would wonder about your credibilty when you cannot even spell her name right.

I posted to this site to point out the obvious facts that you definitely couldn't defend or prove untrue as proven by the fact that you completely changed the line of conversation to a different subject (daycare). And AGAIN a responsible breeder knows the history of any stud when she is breeding him to her female. First of all, a stud should not be used before he is the correct size (mature).

Shihtzu's reach their growth potential by the time they should be used for breeding. If you chose to use a male before that time than you are un unethical breeder who knows nothing about breeding. And apparently your knowledge of not knowing his adult size was not a factor for you. I might mention that JoJo is in fact 11 lbs and you stated that when he bred he was 10 lbs. I know this because I weighed him at the time of studding. Seems to the intelligent person that he could not have been very young to have only gained 1 pound. And that in fact he was at his mature size.

I will end the dispute for anyone who wishes to look up his lineage. SINCE I CANNOT ATTACH - HERE IS HIS LINEAGE -ONLY TO NAME A FEW CHAMPIONS FOR YOU. Champion wes-ro's Trapper John MD and Champion dragfires Alfie of Luty. So grow up and realize that for whatever reason you are a terribly bitter person and no one else wants to hear about it. Deanna's reputation speaks for itself. She produces beautiful puppies and none of her puppy purchasers are posting to this site. Only a jealous breeder who has way too much time on her hands to attempt to take business away from Deanna. P.S. Her waiting list also says a lot about the demand for her puppies. So these comments are as infantile as the slanderous statements that you find necessary to post.
Thank You


Sharon

Dixon,
Illinois,
U.S.A.

Deanne Bohn is a phyco and does talk about other breeders!

#9Author of original report

Sat, December 02, 2006

Deanne Bohn is a phyco and unethical breeder. She does talk about other breeders. I have an email stating this. She is soo nice at first. Then all of a sudden she turn on you. As for JoJO he was 9-10 and was the same size as my girl at the time at the time of breeding not 14 lbs. Deanne did not inform me that his parents carry large lines. My dog has not produced any large puppies over 10 lbs since Jojo. Yes Jojo does weigh about 14lbs now. I have a friend who was with me and saw him too. She could not get over his size. If I would have been told up front he carries large line I would have not bred my girl to him. As for Deanne I know she even has lied about her Day Care Business. I have been to her house a number of times, at different times,and she has no kids at her home. I also know others that have told me this too. Yes I do know about breeding. Deanne has cursed out my husband, myself and my daughter over the phone repeated times.. She kept calling us at all hrs for 2-3 wks straight harrassing us. This lady has even harrassed some of her soo called friends too.
As for the Hernia's I also have not had any more since I used Jojo. I have several litters since him. I am always right there and helping my female give birth. As for Deanne I would ask her why she is not always there when her dogs give birth. She has told me she fell asleep while her dog was giving birth. She lost some puppies when this happened. I wonder how often she does this. If you noticed her litters are all small. So I wonder how many she has lost.

You state isn't it dangerous to breed a 10 lb to 14 lbs? Well that is something to ask Deanne. Most of Her females are all smaller or 10lbs. I think you should direct your concerns to her.
I noticed you did not metion the champion lines she claimes he carries. I have his parents pedigree and do not see any? So how can she claim he has champion lines. You call her an ethical breeder!


Heidi

Beloit,
Wisconsin,
U.S.A.

Deanna Bohn is an EXCELLENT Breeder with a wonderful reputation

#9Consumer Suggestion

Fri, December 01, 2006

Being a breeder myself I have personally used JoJo as a stud, and I have a copy
of his pedigree as well. He does in fact have champion bloodlines. If JoJo was
used as your stud, you obviously did not care whether he was a champion or not. Being that I am a responsible breeder as well as Deanna, I asked for copies of JoJo's vet records and he does in fact weigh 11 lbs. Any experienced breeder such as Deanna and myself can actually spell "umbilical hernia" and know that they are caused from the mother aggressively pulling at the umbilical cord, not genetically! Apparently you have a very inexperienced or anxious female if in fact you did have umbilical hernias...and exactly where were you in the birthing
process to prevent this? Animals are only as experienced as there breeding owners.

My question to you is why would you even breed your 10 lb female to a 14 lb. male? isn't that risky? or do you just not care? I have used JoJo several times with my female, and never produced this so-called giant puppy and never had one over 11 lbs."Deanna Bohn" is the correct spelling of her name, she lives in "ROSCOE" and she is a wonderful shihtzu breeder who dedicates her time and effort into producing well
socialized high quality, family raised puppies with many repeat customers. I personally have had Deanna refer people to me and assisted them in finding another shihtzu when she had none of her own available.

I have never heard Deanna slander another shihtzu breeder nor does she have the integrity to do so. I do not like the fact that people can use this website to post unproven facts
or simply hateful statements to defer people from purchasing puppies from honest breeders. If Deanna is suppposdely talking bad about other breeders (your opinion only) than what exactly do you classify your posting as doing? It is obvoius that you have way too much time on your hands. Deanna is in this business to provide high quality Shihtzus to enhance this breed. Not to line her pockets or to have conflit with the likes of you. Her reputation has been heard as far away as Germany where she did in fact have an offer to purchase a puppy - from word of mouth.

That in my book is very impressive. And that comes from a fellow breeder who has not had that type of response to date. I am envious of Deanna because dhe has such a wide repoir with her customers. And guess what? She never got that by posting derrogatory comments on a web page in the middle of no where.Perhaps you should follow the fine example that Deanna has set to give breeders like us a good name. Perhaps then you may even get referrals instead of the cheap thrill of attempting to hurt people.

Thank You

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