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BRG Racing KC CAGER Ripoff Fraudulent money hungry that will take your money and leave you for broke Pacheco California
I came to KC for some ECU tuning on my truck. I told him that I could go with a stand alone fuel system but I didn't want to spend the 1300.00 for it. He assurred me that he could make a custom chip for me for about 500.00 Well to make a long story short. after about 10 dyno tune sessions later. and the chip, he tried to charge me 1100.00 and my truck still doesn't run right. I feel he is very incompotent and should stop taking people's money. I have been going rounds with him since the begginning of 2005. And get this. He still has my chip. I finnally went to the BAR and we are going rounds now. KC has the upper hand on me because he has documentation on what he has done. WELL I have to say IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD ON PAPER! It is really hard to get anywhere with the BAR unless you have good documentation. Unfortunatly everything was word of mouth with KC @ BRG. A few good words of advice. Make good records when it comes to getting performance work done to your vehicle. From now on I don't care how much of an idiot I look like. I will make sure I get everything in writing when I get any work done to my vehicles. AND NEVER GO TO BRG FOR ANYTHING MOTORCYCLES CARS TRUCKS ETC!!!
HE is a ripoff!!
I will probably get nowhere with KC and the BAR because KC has documentation that "he made 150 HP on the dyno"
He failed to mention to the BAR that I did all the work building my custom exhaust and chaging my ignition timing.
But all the bar sees is that when I first came in I was only making 150 HP @ the wheels. then the next time I went I was making 300. well KC failed to mention that after that first time I came to him. I changed from single exhaust to true duals. and I changed the ingnition timing and the 02 sensor. KC had nothing to do with that and that is what made all the power.
but like I said it looks really good on paper. 150 jumpimg to over 300 hp
There are many other things that he has done that I could go on all day about.
Like when I went in to get my chip burnt for the final time and he did the work, after he did the work I now have detonation. and he is saying that it isn't because of his tuning!!
DON'T GO TO BRG
Eric
Antioch, California
U.S.A.
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Kermit-fire Super Customs
Benicia,California,
U.S.A.
KC @ BRG racing is so not ripping anyone off
#6Consumer Comment
Wed, May 06, 2009
First of all KC is NOT out to screw anyone. His reputation is on the line every time he tunes. There is a reason that every AFM racer uses KC. He is the best in the biz. He has tuned for me on many bikes and knows his way around any engine and how to squeeze every bit of power out of whatever he is working on.
I have a very complicated triple nitrous system on my Yamaha super custom R1. It is twin mapped on the fly with LCD screens and more electrical harnesses and gadgetry than most cars these days. It has velocity stacks, is performance chipped, has custom exhaust, is stretched, lowered, widened and is not simply a show queen that is rolled off a trailer at shows, she is a fire breathing nitrous machine and runs as clean and as powerful as anything anyone has seen all because of the hard work KC and his crew has put into it.
In biz you do your best to make everyone leave a happy customer because an unhappy client chases away way more biz than ten happy customers bring in. You simply can not make everyone happy all the time and if you do enough work the numbers just increase your chances of running across an impossible to please individual.
KC is the best tuner around and can make a toaster run 9's at the track! I have more than 35 grand into this one motorcycle and I will never trust anyone to tune her but KC. He has brought life back to numerous other bikes and machines for me as well as people I have sent to him. He runs an honest shop and does top notch work.
It can be hard to accept spending more money than originally thought to get the power and end result you are looking for. I know, sometimes it happens to me, but KC does great work and sometimes he runs into issues that are unforeseen and it just costs more to get the job done. Do I want to spend more than twice what I originally thought it would be to get the work done? No, but it is what it is and KC, his employees and his dyno are not out to milk every dime from you.
You want discount work? Take your ride to Midas. You want the best in the biz spending his time tuning your machine? Take it to BRG Racing and let the pros give you what you are looking for. Go to www.brgracing.com and schedule your best tune with KC!
Eric
Antioch,California,
U.S.A.
MAYBE I DIDN'T EXPLAIN MYSELF CORRECTLY!
#6Author of original report
Sat, November 04, 2006
The first time I went down to KC's shop I was making 150 RWHP on a baseline run with no chip. KC saw that he wasn't getting an O2 voltage on his data screen. I left BRG and was fully planning on changing the exhaust from the dual inlet single outlet to true dual exhaust with an X after the cats. I spoke with KC and told him what my plan was and he agreed that I would maximize my power gains.
So I HUNG My own exhaust thank you very little! and changed the O2 sensor a few weeks went by and I went down to his shop. He then again put my truck on the Dyno for another BASELINE run. NO CHIP WAS EVEN BURNT NOR IN MY TRUCK. I made 300 RWHP ( I guess hell is freezing over!!)
Let me go over with you what I have done to my motor.
A4 block
10.5to 1 Comp.
Comp cams extreme energy 272 HR
AFR 185 cc heads with a 54cc angle mill 2.02 1.60 valves
30lb injectors
twin 56mm TB
73 mm C&l MAF
And you are saying that 150 RWHP is sufficient amount of HP with the setup I have and this superchips chip is going to make that much hp What have you been under a rock? I have never seen 150 HP gain from a chip!
Eric
Antioch,California,
U.S.A.
MAYBE I DIDN'T EXPLAIN MYSELF CORRECTLY!
#6Author of original report
Sat, November 04, 2006
The first time I went down to KC's shop I was making 150 RWHP on a baseline run with no chip. KC saw that he wasn't getting an O2 voltage on his data screen. I left BRG and was fully planning on changing the exhaust from the dual inlet single outlet to true dual exhaust with an X after the cats. I spoke with KC and told him what my plan was and he agreed that I would maximize my power gains.
So I HUNG My own exhaust thank you very little! and changed the O2 sensor a few weeks went by and I went down to his shop. He then again put my truck on the Dyno for another BASELINE run. NO CHIP WAS EVEN BURNT NOR IN MY TRUCK. I made 300 RWHP ( I guess hell is freezing over!!)
Let me go over with you what I have done to my motor.
A4 block
10.5to 1 Comp.
Comp cams extreme energy 272 HR
AFR 185 cc heads with a 54cc angle mill 2.02 1.60 valves
30lb injectors
twin 56mm TB
73 mm C&l MAF
And you are saying that 150 RWHP is sufficient amount of HP with the setup I have and this superchips chip is going to make that much hp What have you been under a rock? I have never seen 150 HP gain from a chip!
Eric
Antioch,California,
U.S.A.
MAYBE I DIDN'T EXPLAIN MYSELF CORRECTLY!
#6Author of original report
Sat, November 04, 2006
The first time I went down to KC's shop I was making 150 RWHP on a baseline run with no chip. KC saw that he wasn't getting an O2 voltage on his data screen. I left BRG and was fully planning on changing the exhaust from the dual inlet single outlet to true dual exhaust with an X after the cats. I spoke with KC and told him what my plan was and he agreed that I would maximize my power gains.
So I HUNG My own exhaust thank you very little! and changed the O2 sensor a few weeks went by and I went down to his shop. He then again put my truck on the Dyno for another BASELINE run. NO CHIP WAS EVEN BURNT NOR IN MY TRUCK. I made 300 RWHP ( I guess hell is freezing over!!)
Let me go over with you what I have done to my motor.
A4 block
10.5to 1 Comp.
Comp cams extreme energy 272 HR
AFR 185 cc heads with a 54cc angle mill 2.02 1.60 valves
30lb injectors
twin 56mm TB
73 mm C&l MAF
And you are saying that 150 RWHP is sufficient amount of HP with the setup I have and this superchips chip is going to make that much hp What have you been under a rock? I have never seen 150 HP gain from a chip!
Robert
Jacksonville,Florida,
U.S.A.
Stop...you're killing me!
#6Consumer Comment
Thu, October 26, 2006
The only thing in ANY vehicle that makes horsepower, is the engine. Changing the exhaust system from a restrictive one, to a free flowing one, will NOT give you ANY HP gains. It will ONLY change the torque curve...bring the SAME peak numbers in, at a lower rpm. THAT'S IT! It will accomplish nothing else. Being able to breathe easier, will allow the engine to produce more power, but only after you change the rest of the recipe. You have to add more fuel/air in order to produce more power.
Changing cam/spark timing does very little on an engine made since 1987. Incresing the cam lift/duration allows more air/fuel to be burned. Advancing or retarding the cam, in regards to the crank simply changes the rpm at which the peak numbers occur. A new oxygen sensor does nothing except work faster than an old one. It gives the ECM the A/F ratio passing through it. A slow O2 simply makes the engine sluggish during normal driving. At wide open throttle, the ECM will revert to WOT mode and give full rich. The O2 sensor isn't even part of the equation at that point.
NOBODY on this planet has ever gained 150 HP on ANY engine by adding an aftermarket exhaust system.
I hang exhaust all day. I am a Flowmaster and Magna Flow dealer. I do custom work from 1.5" to 6" diameter pipe. The first question I get is "how much power will this add?" I then ask the customer if he/she wants the truth, or what they want to hear. The truth is "It's a look, and a sound". Factory systems for ALL manufacturers since the late 70's have been as non-restrictive as possible. The "cats" take out alot of the sound(no, they do not restrict the exhaust...the GM pellet style being the exception), and most vehicles have a resonator installed to quiet them further, along with a free flow muffler. Think it's a quiet muffler from the factory? Remove the cats, and the resonator. It'll make more noise than you ever wanted. They sound like a bumblebee in a beer can.
The chip the guy had made is making the gains. The chip allows more fuel, and a better spark curve to be utilized. More has been done to the engine(injectors?, MAF?, intake?) that you are not telling us.
There is a reason the shop is winning. The BAR isn't stupid...they know how engines work.