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Complaint Review: Brntwood Bulldogs Dogs Of Courage

Brntwood Bulldogs, Dogs Of Courage And Elena Schwinn They are not breeders at all. They are Dog Brokers and purchase their puppies from puppy mills and off of Dog Auction Websites. Royal Palm Beach Florida

  • Reported By:
    Wayside New Jersey
  • Submitted:
    Wed, December 26, 2007
  • Updated:
    Wed, January 14, 2009
  • Brntwood Bulldogs ,Dogs Of Courage
    brentwoodbulldog.com
    Royal Palm Beach, Florida
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    561-853-4690
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We purchased our Minaiture Bulldog for Elena Schwinn, owner of Brentwood Bulldog. They claim to have Miniature Bulldogs, however they are nothing more than brokers. they pay 500 -800 dollars a puppy and then sell them for 2500.00. They have NO CONTCT AT ALL with the puppies they sell. They strictly find puppies online, take their pictures and sell other breeders dogs.

We purchased a puppy from them and the puppy was shipped from MO. They are located in West Palm Beach Florida. We were told they were the breeder and the dogs were with them in Florida. However they lied and sold us a sick FULL SIZE bulldog. The Mini Bulldog I bought now weighs 85 lbs and looks more like a boxer.

I also came across other people who purchased puppies from BrentwoodBulldog.com and Elena Schwinn and they have similar stories. I also came across a Dog Auction website where I found the breeder that shipped me the puppy. After speaking with the actual breeder she told me that she NEVER met Elena Schwinn, or Brentwood Bulldog. She said that she sold her our dog for 700.00 and Elena re sold us the dog for aover 3 times that. Then sent a sick puppy.

I have currently filed a lawsuit against Elena Schwinn and Brentwood Bulldog and Dogs of Courage. My lawyer has done his homework and there are currently 7 lawsuits against her. So we are planning on joining the other lawsuits and go against her in numbers. We are entitled to 4 times what we paid for the dog, plus ALL medical expenses. With the other lawsuits this will add up to around 300K. We are also going to put a lein on her property in Florida.

My lawyer also told me she has animal cruelty charges pending in Florida for letting animals run loose in their town. You can look it up for yourself.

IF YOU ARE THINKING AOUT PURCHASING A PUPPY FROM HER --- DONT. THERE ARE MANY OTHER BREEDERS OUT THERE. WE ARE CURRENTLY SPEAKING WITH MAJI MINI BULLDOGS, AND THEY ARE THE ACTUAL BREEDERS OF THEIR PUPPIES.

Brentwoodbulldogscam
Wayside, New Jersey
U.S.A.

23 Updates & Rebuttals


Me

Las Vegas,
Nevada,
U.S.A.

I forgot

#24Consumer Comment

Wed, January 14, 2009

I forgot to mention that it would not surprise me in the slightest that a bulldog whom was purchased for the bargain price of $700 was unhealthy. Not the healthiest breed to begin with, but a price that low on an existing puppy is just plain scary to me.


Me

Las Vegas,
Nevada,
U.S.A.

Be sure to re-read the first rebuttal after the original post if you are considering purchasing a 'mini' bulldog

#24Consumer Comment

Wed, January 14, 2009

I hope that people thinking of buying one of these 'mini' bulldogs reads this post BEFORE shelling out their money to an unethical, irresponsible 'breeder'. I am not speaking specifically of the kennel named in this post, or all 'breeder's" whom are attempting to breed the bulldog down. We all have things we strive to do in our chosen breeds. But these ethical ones will admit that their chosen breed is in fact the BULLDOG, and they have chosen to attempt to produce a smaller line (my opinion). In fact, if you read the first rebuttal after the original post, it will explain things pretty well. How can you be upset that you purchased a breed which is not actually reckognized by anyone other than a small group of people whom have formed their own club and registry which apply's ONLY to the 'breed'. It becomes unethical if they do not explain the facts behind the term 'mini' bulldog,and I would be wary of those whom do not. I would imagine that alot of them have the keys in their paperwork, lol. These 'mini' bulldogs are still bulldogs. Or, bulldog mixes. I have personally been witness to several of these 'mini' bulldogs whom I'd bet my house on the fact would show up with FRENCH bulldog ( I hear that boston terrier is common as well) in their DNA if tested from a REPUTABLE source. Not all DNA tests are equal, lol. Do your homework, and make sure that there is at least something in their paperwork that the dog is not the offspring of two seperate breeds. Read your contract carefully, and make sure you agree with all terms and conditions, and statements before you sign. The contract doesn't change later because you are now unhappy with it. It is hard to say later that someone has misrepresented something which does not exist in the eyes of the majority, and whose genetic background in no way supports your claim.


Rick

Oakland,
California,
U.S.A.

I was RIPPED OFF as well!!!!

#24Consumer Comment

Wed, January 14, 2009

I also purchased what was supposed to be an English Bulldogg from Elena and Brentwood Bulldogs. What I received was a great dog; but it definitely wasnt a bulldog. It more closely resembled a boxer, pitbull, bulldogg mix of some sort. To add insult to injury the dog happened to be deaf as well. When I received my puppy, it also came from Missouri not Florida. I looked up the name of the person who delivered the dog and found out that she was involved with a Federal and State of Missouri case involving PUPPY MILLS. I was very upset with this information and started the ball rolling on a law suit when I couldn't get relief after attempting to contact Elena. I thought I had done my due diligence and trusted this woman because she claimed to be a god fearing woman. I would love to receive contact information from anyone who is already pursuing litigation against this outfit. They are scam artists and they need to be brought to justice.


Frank

San Francisco,
California,
U.S.A.

Where's Elena?

#24Consumer Comment

Fri, December 12, 2008

Tried to contact her - my puppy is already 65 lbs at 11 months. He has a slight limp that the doctor has to xray and diagnose. No sign of Elena after I asked her some questions about the puppy.

If you bought from her and are satisfied, can file a complaint with your credit card company.

Thru the years she used several names - Brentwood, Originalminibulldog - and others - it is all the same person. A broker - I am having my puppy DNA tested - just don't just anything from this person.

It is such a shame what people will do for a dollar!


Brenda

Colorado Springs,
Colorado,
U.S.A.

Brentwood Bulldogs is not a RIP OFF

#24Consumer Comment

Wed, November 05, 2008

I have bought 3 Mini English bulldogs from Brentwood only to have healthy cute Bulldogs. I have bread 1 of them which now she has 3babies that are 3 week old beautiful babies.

If you would like to see pictures of my babies from Brentwood or would like to speak with me please call me at 719-321-9887.

Elena never told me she was the breeder and FYI you can't buy a English bulldog for $500-$700.00 and sell them for what they are worth which is $2000-$2300.00


Jenna

Flushing,
New York,
U.S.A.

LAFAYETTE, LOUISIANA

#24Consumer Comment

Sun, November 02, 2008

Look on this website there is another person who purchased their bulldog from Elena and found other websites she runs including the website you received your puppy from that was put to sleep. You were not mistaken it is the same Elena Schwinn!!


Jenna

Flushing,
New York,
U.S.A.

Elena sold us our miniature thats now 70 pounds at 10 months old

#24Consumer Comment

Sun, November 02, 2008

I purchased my supposively miniature bulldog in February of this year. Elena Schwinn told us that he would not exceed 45 pounds. For those of you claiming that these larger miniature dogs are because people over feed and do not exercise their dogs you are highly mistaken.

My puppy is 10 months and already 70 pounds. He has never tasted human food, we also exercise him regularly and the vet said he is actually underweight for his size and frame.

My writing this statement does not say that I love my puppy any less I just want to add in my personal story that Elena completely misinformed me about the puppy I was going to receive.

I did asked for all the proper information about his parents which she claimed the father was 45 pounds and the mother 35 pounds. We saw pictures of the parents which I now look at and they look nothing like my puppy. I believe she sent us fake pictures of the parents to mislead me into buying the puppy.

I live in an apartment and purchased this dog under the complete impression that it was going to be a miniature and be capable of living in my small home. My vet already told me not to expect my puppy to be under 85 pounds at full size.

All the time people come up to me and say how adorable my dog is and when they ask what breed he is they are in disbelief that he is an English Bulldog because he honestly looks like a mix breed dog. If I were to add in 'Miniature' people would laugh at me because he clearly is no miniature.

In addition, since receiving my puppy I have only been able to get in contact with Elena twice. Once to inform her I received my puppy, and a second time to tell her about the medical checkup she requires within 48 hours of receving the puppy. I have tried numberous times to get in contact with her but she refuses to answer or return any phone calls or emails of mine.

I would not trade my puppy for anything in the world, however, I do wish for Elena Schwinn to be brought to justice for her fraudulent misrepresentation. I would very much like to get in touch with the other owners who are in process of this lawsuit to join in the motion.


Bulldoglvrla

Lafayette,
Louisiana,
U.S.A.

Retraction from Yesterday

#24Consumer Comment

Sun, June 22, 2008

I need to retract my statement from yesterday regarding my experience with Brentwood Bulldogs. The bulldog that I purchased was actually purchased through originalminibulldogs.com. I apologize for the confusion, and hope that this does not impact any consumer's views on Brentwood Bulldogs.


Bulldoglvrla

Lafayette,
Louisiana,
U.S.A.

My Experience With Brentwood Bulldogs

#24Consumer Comment

Sat, June 21, 2008

I purchased a miniature bulldog through Brentwood Bulldogs in December of 2005. He was a wonderful, sweet dog, exactly what you would expect from an English Bulldog (albeit a miniature). He was put to sleep on Thursday, June 19th, 2008, at the ripe old age of 2 and 1/2. Without going into great detail, he suffered from a severely hypoplastic trachea (an extremely narrow airway), which ultimately cost him his life even after resecting his soft palate and opening up his nares (nostrils). Of course I cannot say definitively if there are deceptive practices going on with regards to breeding animals that are known to have such severe congenital defects and therefore likely to pass these traits on to their offspring, but both our veterinarian here and the soft tissue surgeon at the veterinary hospital at Louisiana State University (who sees cases of brachycephalic syndrome every day) believed that our dog's case was so severe that it would be highly unlikely that his parents were much different.

My experience with Brentwood Bulldogs and their network of breeders leads me to believe that they are highly immoral breeders - much more concerned with profit than with the quality of animals placed. It is not so much about the money (not including what we paid for our animal, our medical bills for him over the last 2 and 1/2 years total nearly $10,000.00). It is about the fact that my wife, myself, and our ten month old daughter loved that dog like he was one of our children, and I am afraid that many other families are going to learn the same painful lesson that we did. As a sidenote, my parents have owned three pure bred English bulldogs over the last 40 years, and each one lived to the age of nine or ten years old. They all suffered from the normal bulldog ailments, but by and large lived full, healthy lives. I've seen what that looks like, and it is nothing like what we experienced with our purportedly healthier miniature bulldog.


Brentwoodbulldogscam

Wayside,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.

I will post all the proof you want on this website, just ask !

#24Author of original report

Sun, December 30, 2007

DO you want me to post all the info I have so far to prove what a scumbags Brentwood Bulldog are ? I will post the info if you ask for it. Its obvious that that all you stick together. Prepare at least 10 trips to NJ. We will depo you as many times as we want at your expense. Last time I checked a flight from FL to NJ and MN to NJ is about 500 roundtrip. Add in food and hotel and it will cost you about 1500 a trip.

Now you can do the right thing and pay our Bills and replace the " Mini " Bulldog we purchased from you with a Bulldog that will be under 40 pounds like you advertise. You can also pay the Bills for the other families you ripped off.

If not, well we will settle this in court.

So between us and the other families you can come up with around 50-70 K or we will go after what we are entitled to under FL law and NJ law, which is 4 times the purchase price of the puppy plus Vet bills and most likely the s**t down of your company for fraud, deception, misrepresentation, and pain and suffering as well as lost wages. That will be around 300-500 K minimum.

I have already started working on a website to chronicle our experience as well as the other families. We are going to post pictures, Vet Bills, letters from our Vet, trainers, other breeders, the FL Dept of Agriculture, Fl Dept of Rev, the IRS, the Palm Beach Sheriffs office, the USDA, as well as links to the Dog Auction where our puppy was purchased from, how many puppies you purchased from the Dog Auction, the pictures of the Dogs bought from the dog auction, so maybe other people will recognize their puppies and join our lawsuit.

This can be either be settled the easy way or the hard way.


Evan

Loxahatchee,
Florida,
U.S.A.

The Bulldog Exchange knows who this is and your games dont work

#24Consumer Comment

Fri, December 28, 2007

There are certain breeders in AR whos Miniature Bulldogs are not a nice as The Bulldog Exchange, Maji, Laura'a, Brentwood, etc... So this is how they try to sell dogs. The Bulldog Exchange does not badmouth any breeders. Our puppies speak for themselves. Since your style's of Bulldogs are not up to par you have nothing great to say about them so you attack other breeders. People know what they want. They want Smaller English Bulldogs that look like Bulldogs. They do not want Classic, Athletic, Boxer, Bulldogs. You know who you are and you know that superior dogs will always place faster than those AR " Bulldogs ". I am sure the other Breeders you have attaked on this website will agree.

Concentrate on making your dogs better. Not badmouthing other breeders.

Thank you.


Brenda

Colorado Springs,
Colorado,
U.S.A.

Guess I got Lucky 3 different times plus an x-tra

#24Consumer Comment

Fri, December 28, 2007

I have dealt with BRENTWOOD BULLDOGS for a couple of years now. I have bought 3 mini bulldogs through BRENTWOOD BULLDOGS through 3 different breeders and with 2 of my bulldogs I have breed together which gave me a beautiful now 15 week old puppy. They weigh anywhere from 35 to 55 pounds. I am also planning on breeding and selling my puppies and have considered going through BRENTWOOD BULLDOGS to post my puppies on their website, if I don't do my own website and I plan on selling them for $2300.00 to $2500.00.

Before I purchased the dogs through BRENTWOOD BULLDOGS they sent me pictures of their parents and after I purchased the puppies they came with there registration papers. I have pictures if anyone would like to see my babies. And anyone that has considerd buying a bulldog puppy I have referred to BRENTWOOD BULLDOGS. If you have any questions you can contact me in Colorado.


Evan

Loxahatchee,
Florida,
U.S.A.

This Person did not buy a puppy from The Bulldog Exchange

#24Consumer Comment

Fri, December 28, 2007

This person tried to do the same thing to us. They did not purchase a puppy from The Bulldog Exchange. They are another breeder trying to make everyone look bad.


Brentwood Bulldog

Royal Palm Beach,
Florida,
U.S.A.

SHAME ON YOU, I KNOW YOU ARE LIEING,AND THAT YOU ARE A COMPETITOR

#24REBUTTAL Owner of company

Fri, December 28, 2007

I SPOKE DIRECTLY WITH MAJI MINIATURES YESTERDAY, AND HAVE BEEN IN E-MAIL CORRESPONDANCE WITH THEM TODAY. AT NO TIME HAVE THEY EVER SOLD A PUPPY TO ANYONE IN NJ, THEY ARE ALSO NOT CURRENTLY WORKING WITH ANYONE FROM NJ, NOR DO THEY HAVE A DEPOSIT FROM ANYONE IN NJ. THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEIR PUPPIES GO , WHERE EVERY E-MAIL AND REQUEST THAT COMES INTO THEIR WEBSITE COMES FROM WITHOUT THE CUSTOMER EVEN DIVULGING THE INFORMATION. HERE ARE DIRECT QUOTES FROM THEIR E-MAILS, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO CONTACT THEM. THEY ALSO SAID THAT NOT ONE PERSON HAS EVER CALLED THEM AND COMPLAINED ABOUT ME, BRENTWOOD, OR THE PUPPIES WE PLACE.

IN REFERENCE TO ME:

" We are confident in your services, aware of your referrals and respect your work."

"You can use us as a referral at any time. I think you should just see what transpires from this individual making threats. If a lawsuit were to occur then of course we'd be involved as we are mentioned in it. We have passed the information off to our attorney for guidance."


So now it comes to pass ,

Laura from Mn never sold you a dog (she knows where all of their puppies go),

You are not working with Maji Miniatures, and you did not bother to add the name of the Kennel in Florida.

I will add that Maji, And Laura are both wonderful breeders, who love their dogs, and take what they do seriously. they are wonderful honest people.

I do have other proof through research I have done over the past few days that you are a competitor, if I need to post it I will.

Interesting that you posted as not only the author but consumer to. I also have never placed a puppy with anyone in Wayside/Tinton fall NJ. I am sure your rebuttal will be we have moved since you sold us the dog! (RIGHT!)

I have not been arrested for animal cruelty,( I had 2 dogs that got out of my house back in 2000, which has happened to most of us ),I paid these tickets and it somehow did not get into the system. I just went to court about them this year, and because tickets were paid all the charges in reference to it were dropped.) I have never misrepresented any dog, where they came from, etc, nor their size. All information supplied from breeders with pictures are supplied to puppy parents. Breeders can advertise their dogs through any manner they so choose, on whatever other websites they so choose. They have this right, and pups are not sold strictly through us. I am not affiliated with nor do i have any type of account nor am I registered with any Pet auction Site.

All dogs go home microchipped with health certificates, and registration papers. . I have always supplied all information requested by everyone. You will see that all information always from the beginning on website was a Network of Private Breeders, and in the paperwork always stated that and that Brentwood was a breeder network etc...I never verbally nor through e-mail or writing form stated puppies were with me, coming from florida, nor that i was the breeder.I have never had a so called group of people sue me in the past, I also have not been served with any pending lawsuits (you see if they had been filed I would have been served) .

I have proof you are a competitor, and I will post it if Necessary. I also have spoken with my attorney, and they are now involved. They already said I have a counter lawsuit of defamation of character among other things. So expect to have a countersuit filed against you. What you have done is mean and not right. You are hurting alot of people, not just me.


AT THI POINT YOU NEED TO STOP, YOU ARE THE ONE LIEING, AND THE REBUTTALS AND CONFIRMATION FROM THE BREEDERS PROVE IT. ALSO WHAT IN THE WORLD DO YOU NEED WITH 4 DOGS, YOU SAID YOU GOT ONE FROM ME, YOU SAID YOU GOT ONE FROM LAURA, YOU SAID YOU GOT ONE FROM A KENNEL IN FLORIDA, AND YOU SAID YOU ARE WORKING WITH MAJI. ARE YOU A BREEDER, ARE YOU A KENNEL. SO I GUESS IT COMES DOWN TO SHAME ON YOU!


Brentwoodbulldogscam

Wayside,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.

Wow You people are sure full of it.

#24Consumer Comment

Fri, December 28, 2007

I have to say I am shoked. I guess Liars stick together. The Miniature Bulldog I bought from MN was a gift to me after the disgust we went through with Brentwood. I am going set up a website and provide Airline info as well as pictures and email correspondance. I will also know add the breeder in MN to our Lawsuit. Becuase if I got ripped off by that breeder I will sue them as well. This is getting to be insane. The next contact will be from our Attorneys.


Brentwoodbulldogscam

Wayside,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.

LIAR

#24Author of original report

Fri, December 28, 2007

Like I said in a previous post, you may be one of the lucky ones ? I and at least 7 others were not so lucky. I understand that when you don't actualy breed your own puppies and post pictures of any breeder with cheap puppies to re sell you may not get a winner everytime. Brentwood Bulldogs mis represented their status to us. Elena told us that they were the breeder of our dog and even gave us detailed informaton about the puppies personality and behavior. Come to find out that she has never even saw our puppy other than pictures, that our dog was purchased from a Dog Auction Website, and that the breeder never met Elena. The actual breeder told us that they list their puppies on a Dog Auction website, think about it. A DOG AUCTION WEBSITE.

Not only should Brentwood Bulldog be taken down, but any human being that will auction a dog on a website should be shut down. These are live animals, not merchandise that should be auctioned to the highest bidder like on EBAY. You can visit the Humane Society website and watch their movie about Online Dog Auctions. If I wanted to buy a Miniature Bulldog from an Auction I would have.

This website where Elena Schwin bids on her dogs is a disgrace. There is more negative websites about this website than any other site. How can someone Bid on a live animal, never see the animal, pass it off like it is from a NETWORK of private breeders who are dedicated to the breed. We have a copy of our puppies Bid standings, and it clearly states that the mother weighs 65lbs and the father weighs 65 lbs. The puppy was being Auctioned as a Bulldog, not a Mini Bulldog Like we thought we were buying. We were scammed, plain and simple. We were told that Brentwood Bulldogs were the breeder of our puppy. The website has now been changed since then to cover her a*s.

Our attorneys are handling everything and we have lots of information to share. There is alot of personal stuff that does not belong here. It will all come up in court. If anyone has also had a horrible experiance with Brentwood Bulldog please contact us. We are a grop of now 7 people who are going to make sure no one else is treated this way.


Laura In Minnesota

Minneapolis,
Minnesota,
U.S.A.

Author did not buy a puppy from me in MN

#24Consumer Comment

Fri, December 28, 2007

Upon reading this rip off report I discovered I was named in it, in the quote below:

"We have since purchased other Miniature Bulldogs from other real Kennels. One from Laura in MN and one from FL. Both puppies were actualy flown from their kennels, not from a strangers kennel in another state."

I am the only Miniature Bulldog breeder in Minnesota named Laura and I have not sold and flown a puppy to anyone in New Jersey, ever. I'm afraid they have been caught in a lie.

Also, I am not a kennel, just a breeder. I have three Mini's that live on my couch in my living room in the middle of urban South Minneapolis, no kennels at all.


Happy In New York

Monroe,
New York,
U.S.A.

Happy In New York

#24Consumer Comment

Fri, December 28, 2007

Kudos to "Bulldog Owner in VA and Happy Customer in Florida". I to have two miniature bulldogs that I purchased at separate times through Brentwood Bulldogs. Elena was and has been nothing but upfront about where these dogs come from. I am in the process of purchasing a third from Brentwood. I have done research, read all the papers forwarded by her and everything is explained clearly so that any child can understand and there should be no misunderstandings that the dogs are not with her.

Before purchasing my dogs, who by the way are both 42 and 45 lbs., very healthy, beautiful and smart, I received pictures of them and their parents. I also received paperwork from the vet verifying that they were healthy and ready for transport. My vet checked both dogs out the very next day and confirmed the written report I received.

Within a short time period, I also received their registration papers. My dogs are both a year old and have both been back to my vet recently, where the vet stated that both dogs are very healthy, perfect framing, perfect weight and all muscle, their folds are great and perfect in every way. Even if one of my dogs were to be a "crop-up" and ended up weighing more then I had expected or wanted, I'd love them just the same and wouldnt hold any resentment towards Brentwood Bulldogs. It is what it is! If one of my daughters ended up being on the heavier side, am I going to love her less??? I think not.

So stop wasting everyone's time and get over it. Be happy that your dogs are healthy and alittle heavy. Think of it this way, there is more of them to love and there are worse things in life. Signed, Very very happy in New York


Brentwoodbulldogscam

Wayside,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.

You may have lucked out, We did not.

#24Author of original report

Thu, December 27, 2007

We were ripped off. You may be fortunate enough not to have been, howeever we were scammed. Our " Miniature Bulldog " Is not so. It is a Huge Bulldog. We have every right to state our claim here. Trust me I can put much more damaging information on here with links to it, but I will not. This will all come out in court. My attorneys say we will win hands down. What they have done is missrepresented the breed, the location, and the history of my dog. We are going to start a website that will timeline our purchase with Brentwood Bulldogs. We will not lie and have all the proof in the world to back it up. We have Vet reports, Training reports, Screen shots of their website BEFORE it was changed. We have a guarantee that was signed, not the same one they have now.

It is obvious that they changed their paperwork after the first group of people sued them. Now it is round two and they are trying to cover the asses. We will win, our lawyers are sure of this.

For anyone that got a healthy puppy from them, good for you. There is enough of us who didnt for a class action lawsuit. All of our attorneys agree that we will sue in numbers, depo their records, their breeders records, and if anything is out of line then they will be at fault. We are also going to depo the Puppy Auction Site where our puppy was up for bid. We have proof of that as well. So I hope everyone has their licenses, permits, kennel permits, breeder permits, etc. If they dont we will make sure they are shut down. The last time we checked no one had any of this.

Like we said in our last post, we will let the legal system work everything out.


Happy Customer

Fort Myers,
Florida,
U.S.A.

LIAR

#24Consumer Comment

Thu, December 27, 2007

I wanted to state that I have also purchased a Minature Bulldog from Brentwood Bulldogs and mine is Healthy, and completely mirrors what I was told he would look like.

I have had nothing but GREAT experiences when dealing with Elena and Brentwood Bulldogs. My Dog is an absolute amazing animal that I receive complements on where ever I go. I would be more than happy to share photos with anyone. If there ever was such thing as a minature bulldog, mine would fill that description. He is completely proportioned to a full size male, and only weighs 45lbs. at full size.

I would like to add that I have personally contact Elena a min. of 6 times with questions, and she has answered and offered very valuable solutions to any situation I have faced.

I think it is absolutely terrible that someone would go out to a website like this and try to "Slander" the great name and reputation that someone else has worked so hard to get. I would also love to see pictures of their dog that is supposedly way oversized and looks like a boxer. I could take my 10in tall bulldog and make him 85lbs if I over fed him and never exercized him. My dog is as Healthy as any animal I have seen.

Basically I agree with the last person that posted, this is either from a competitor that is trying to rid themselves of competition, or it is from an owner that has done a poor job in caring for their new Family Member. Either way, this person should cease from this type of juvenile behavior.

I will not hide my identity, if anyone wants to contact me I am at (((ROR REDACTED)))

CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.


Bulldog Owner

Richmond, Va,
Virginia,
U.S.A.

LIAR

#24Consumer Comment

Thu, December 27, 2007

I have bought two dogs from www.brentwoodbulldog.com and they are both beautiful, smart, small and AKC REGISTERED and I would buy from them with complete confidence. I think it is interesting the people making this complaint did not post their names. It sounds like a competitor that is trying to create an environment of suspision and undermine Elana and her business or YOU ARE CON ARTISTS trying to steal $300K.

This RO report is slanderous, untrue and if I was Elana I would slap a defamation lawsuit on these people immediately. SO post your names and let us see who you are.

I would be happy to send pictures of my bulldogs and referrals to anyone interested in mini bulldogs. Also, always request pictures of the parents, and their size and weight. DO your homework, as I did, and you will be extremely happy like me :o)


Brentwoodbulldogscam

Wayside,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.

We will let our Lawyers handle this, this is why we hired one in the first place.

#24Author of original report

Wed, December 26, 2007

This is all new information to us. We have screen shots of yor website from 5 months ago and all the information on your website is newly added. Your website stated nothing abotu not being a kennel. You told us you were the breeder, only after our puppy was shipped from another state did we put 2 and 2 together. You should be ashamed of yourself. We have been in constact with 3 of the 7 families with lawsuits pending. You, Elena Schwin are the owner of the company, you are responsible for the content of its website. Our attorneys are in the process of getting depositions of the other people who have been ripped off.

Since you are the owner of Dogs of Courage AKA Brentwood Bulldogs you are responsible. Our lawyers also told us that since we purchased our puppy before you were a licensed business we can and will go after your person. We are not going to back down. We were sold a bill of goods when we purchased out Minaiture Bulldog, which is now larger than a standard bulldog.

We plan on starting our own website which will document our experiance with you. Also your lies continue. You were arested this year for animal abuse and letting your animals run wild, not in 2000 like you say. Our lawyers have the documentation. They also have other documentation that will be brought up in court. Brentwood Bulldog and Elena Schwinn are nothing more than puppy brokers. If we wanted to buy our puppy from a broker we would have. You told us lie after lie.

We have since purchased other Miniature Bulldogs from other real Kennels. One from Laura in MN and one from FL. Both puppies were actualy flown from their kennels, not from a strangers kennel in another state.


Brentwood Bulldog

Royal Palm Beach,
Florida,
U.S.A.

Your accusations are unfair and not true

#24REBUTTAL Owner of company

Wed, December 26, 2007

The first thing that needs to be stated is that Brentwood Bulldog is an incorparated company, which I am an employee of and according to incorparation papers am excluded from being held Liable in any way. Due to this fact it is against the Law to place my name on this complaint because it is incorparated, you can list Brentwood bulldog, but my name is to be removed within 24 hours.If nec. I will get my lawyer involved.Also anything that is listed on me personaly like a ticket for 2 of my puppies getting out of my house years ago is not anyones business, things happen to us all. Be very careful of slander.

Not at one point have I ever told one individual that puppies were in Florida. It is posted on our website along with the guarantees and paperwork the Brentwood Bulldog is not a kennel, but a Venue for individual Breeders to Advertise their puppies and place them in good Homes. That depending on the puppy you choose will depend on where the puppy is located. That each individual breeder is responsible for their puppies and not the site . Not only is this stated on the phone but written in clear view on website and in your guarantee that you reviewed and signed..

Being the site is a venue for breeders to advertise their puppies, they can advertise and sell their puppies wherever they so choose,however they choose,to whomever they like, they are not strictly sold through Brentwood.Also the informationon what the puppies cost is incorrect and false, as well as the fight it costs 300.00 to fly a puppy, and you have to include overhead. All of the information and pictures provided to our customers directly comes from the breeder of the puppy. We supply you with the information as it is provided to us. As well as the fact the network was started with a core group and other breeders were brought in upon their recommendations. These dogs DO NOt come from Puppy Mills. If you have an issue with your puppy it needs to be handled by your puppies breeder as you agreed to in the Guarantee.

Also it is posted on the website what a miniature bulldog is. A miniature bulldog is an English Bulldog that has been bred down in size. It is stated on the site and in guarantee that size can not be Guaranteed. No size of any dog can be guaranteed that has been bred down in size, because if you research their lines they came from a Full Size dog at one point. I always tell the people who purchase our puppies that plan on them being on the bigger end verses smaller end. That a person who purchases a mini bulldog is a person who loves an English Bulldog but wants something a little smaller and a little healthier. You also must understand their are different lines in an Endlish bulldog o according to their lines can determine uch and look. You have some English Bulldogs 70-85 pounds, others 50-65, and the minis which are 250-45 pounds grown. Also all of the dogs that go home go home with their registration papers that proves they are full blooded.

As far as health the puppies are checked out completely by licensed vets before they come home,If they were sick or had any issues they would never have received a health certificate or been flown in the first place.So if your puppy came to you sick you would not only have to hold the breeder that sent you the dog responsible but the vet who signed the health certificate as well. You can not attack the person who placed the puppy with you,I never had the nimal in my possession at any time. You are not buying cars or anything of the sort, you are buying living breathing biological beings, just like bringing home a new born baby. they can catch colds, and get worms, etc. As a new puppy parent it is your responsibility to take care of them. We warn against all of this in our guarantees, and in the parent paperwork we e-mail home.

If you have an issue with a puppy the breeder is responsible not the website, so that is the individual you would have your complaint with.

Now , Brentwood Bulldog Is Under an LLC company, and I am not personally responsible for the puppies, so no liens can be put on my families property. I do not have any charges pending on me, if you check I had two dogs get loose back in 2000, and those charges were dropped . I also have no charges pending with any animal control
I have alot of puppy parents who purchased our mini who are thrilled with them, what they grew up to be, as well as the fact I have always been their after the puppies came home to help with their puppies in any way. I also have vets from around the country that will also state that our dogs were well bred, healthy ,and wonderful.

To my knowledge all of the puppies that are sent home are happy healthy puppies, well socialized,checked healthy, etc. Unfortunately I do not know the types of homes the puppies are going to be placed in since I do not know new puppy parents personally. So I have no idea what their home enviroment is , if they are being fed properly, taken to the vet and treated properly either by their new owners.

You expect to be backed by a guarantee given to you for your puppy, in return we expect you to follow the guarantee, and hold responsible who you agreed to hold responsible.

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