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Complaint Review: Carnival Cruise Line

Carnival Cruise Line Ruins Vacations Triumph is Spanish for Ghetto Miami Florida

  • Reported By:
    Traverse City Michigan
  • Submitted:
    Thu, February 15, 2007
  • Updated:
    Thu, November 01, 2007
  • Carnival Cruise Line
    Carnival.com
    Miami, Florida
    U.S.A.
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I am writing in regards to a recent cruise we purchased with Carnival.

After have taken several cruises on different lines in the last several years, we decided to try Carnival. The booking process seemed smooth at the beginning. We had book an interior with a Guarantee. No problem. However when we received our documents a cabin had been assigned. I immediately called our booking agent and voiced my concerns. She called Carnival and they told her this was standard practice when a cruise begins to fill. O.K. I supposes I can understand that.

We began our vacation with a two night stay in Miami. It was wonderful, and we were both looking forward to a luxurious cruise with you. Soon after we arrived on board it began to sour.

When we got to our room we called for room service and waited, as the phone rang, not on hold, for thirty minutes. Finally someone answered and it took another twenty-five minutes before anyone arrived. We have both worked in service-industry related jobs before and know that sometimes "this type of thing happens" so we laughed it off.

At this time we began putting our luggage away and I noticed that several lights were out in our cabin. (six out of eleven!) No biggie! I unscrewed one and gave to the room person who was in the hallway when we left that evening and explained what the situation was and what room we were in.

When we arrived at dinner we were greeted by a head waiter who seemed very helpful, at first. After the appetizers, main courses seemed to take forever. Our waiter came to our table and assured us it was not his fault our entrees were slow, but it was the fault of the cooks, the kitchen, and who knows who else.

Again, I understand a swamped kitchen, but I would never imagine a waiter going to a table and passing-the-buck on the kitchen. At that point I felt embarrassed to be in that seat. Our Entrees arrived and he gave me her order and mine to her. We switched, it just seemed easier. This happened four more times throughout the week.

Our fisrt day in port was San Juan. It was beautiful and more fun than we had hoped for. When the ship docked there were announcements as to disembrking procedure and the basic Who, What, Where, When, etc. We came back and got ready for another fun day in St Thomas. We called for a 7:00 am wake-up call and went to sleep. We woke up 8:30am wondering what the deal was with the wake-up call. It turns out it sometimes didn't work and, as we were told "isn't the best alarm" We wondered if we were in port yet so we called the pursers desk and asked if thay had begun disembarking.

The person at the desk, apparently, did not know what that meant. He told us to listen for announcements. We were familiar with announcements, such as those made the day before. We listened... We waited.... We finally went upstairs where we discovered that we had been in port since 7:30 (?) and had been disembarking for an hour. We were told by the excursion director (?) that they normally don't make announcements when they arrive in port in the morning, and was dumbfounded that the pursers desk didn't actually know what was happening.

We came back from a fun day in St Thomas and had some food. We decided to go back to the room and get some rest, I wanted a coffee and aproached one of the coffee counter to ask for a paper cup. I was told, NO. !?!

This was THE first time I had ever experienced someone on a cruise telling me no to anything reasonable. I mean honestly, the cruises I've been on before you could ask for organic bees honey pankaces on a stick with marmalade imported from Thailand served with a porcupine quill and two Ostrich eggs over easy with a Basil cream sauce, and Damnit! They would try. At least try to accomidate the guest. NO

I got NO

Paper cup please?
NO

I went back to my room and counted Six lights out. I was now having a bad time.

The Final day at sea was the best though. We had run into a coule that booked-in right next to us. We are from Michigan and they were from Minnisota, right? So we began talking about our experience. He began by telling me of how, when they arric=ved, they were taken not to the room they reserved, but up four floors to deck six. They were somewhat worried at first then they opened the door and found it was a room with a balcony. WOW!

Wow is right.

They had not book a reserved room. In fact, when I asked him about this what he said was "we were so suprised at the new room I quickly checked my documentation to see if we had been charged with a guarantee. The paperwork had no indication of this. So I called my travel agent to see what she did when she booked it and she said that no guarantee was booked with the cruise. You got lucky." I guess so they received what we paid for. I cannot express to you the deep disgust and disappointment I felt at this point. I felt swindled, honestly. How does this happen? Is this type of randomness a company guideline?

The following night, we discussed the tipping procedure, as some of our table guests had not been on a cruise before. I said to them " Do any of you know what our waiter's name is? Any of the table staff? Any of the Cruise Staff?"
No one answered.

As far as I know room 2215 on the Triumph still has six lights out.

Timothy
Traverse City, Michigan
U.S.A.

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11 Updates & Rebuttals


Tallulah-phoebe

Beverly Hills,
California,
U.S.A.

Reality Check?

#12Consumer Comment

Thu, November 01, 2007

You booked (and paid for) an inside cabin.

You got an inside cabin (hence, what you paid for).

Where is the rip off?


Dabee

Newark,
Delaware,
U.S.A.

Fault?

#12Consumer Comment

Thu, November 01, 2007

It's certainly not your travel agent or Carnival's fault that you ended up with an inside cabin. you booked an inside guarantee and you got an inside cabin. that's what you were guaranteed.

Now, the fact that you should not have been on a Carnival ship could be your travel agent's fault because it seems that she did not qualify you to the correct product. However, if you picked the ship and the accommodations then you are the only one to blame for your experience. You Sir, seem to have champagne taste on a beer budget. that's not an insult, I do too.

F.Y.I. 99% of the time a cabin number will be assigned prior to documents being issued.


Jim

Springfield,
Missouri,
U.S.A.

Booking on a "Guarantee"

#12Consumer Comment

Sat, July 21, 2007

When you book a cruise on a "guarantee", you are usually getting a slightly reduced rate, in exchange for be willing to take whatever cabin they give you. In the case of Carnival, if you booked an Inside "Guarantee" you are guaranteed to receive a Category 4A "or better". If you booked an Oceanview "guarantee" you are guaranteed a Category 6A "or better". The person filing the ripoff report seemed to be upset because somebody else got a better cabin than they did. Again, with a guarantee, you are willing to take what they give you, in exchange for a slightly reduced price. If somebody got a better cabin than you, it is not a "rip-off".


Karl

Clovis,
New Mexico,
U.S.A.

Times Have Changed

#12Consumer Comment

Sat, May 05, 2007

I took several cruises in the 1970's. You took transatlantic ships on the major lines - Holland America, Cunard, French Line, Italian Line, etc. You got the same service throughout the ship on your short cruise that First Class passengers got transatlantic. The waiters spoke English, too.

Taking a plane? Back before deregulation they had coach lounges in wide bodies. You got a meal and there were all sorts of advertising gimmicks to encourage you to fly one airline in coach over another -first class seating in coach, steak flights, etc. etc.

This is all gone. The only difference between air coach and a bus is that legroom is better on the bus and the airline is faster. Cruise lines are mass transit -get em on, give em something to eat and get em off.

Carnival is a budget cruise line. If you want service book Crystal or Seabourne at thousands of dollars per day. If you want service , legroom, and food on a plane book first class. The reason that people are dinappointed or mad when they get aboard is cruise line advertising. The "Love Boat" is dead but you would never know it when you look at a cruise ship brochure. I've given up on cruises.

I fly Southwest or Hawaiian (which still serves a meal in coach ) and I go to a location, rent a car, and stay at a hotel or condo. It is much cheaper than an upscale cruise line and I don't travel with 2500 people. The old days are gone forever. Service is a bygone unless you pay a stiff premium for it.

This report on Carnival is typical of many others. Frankly the complainer is expecting more than he is paying for. He should but times have changed.


Nicole

Sitka,
Alaska,
U.S.A.

Where to Start?

#12Consumer Comment

Mon, April 23, 2007

In an effort of full disclosure, I work for a cruise ship. Not Carnival, but another, higher end ship. I am a waiter. I work in our fine dining restaurant. My assistant waiter used to work on Carnival, so I consulted on this issue you were having. Here is my feedback

#1 Room Service should never be ordered on the first day right when you get on. Guess what they are doing? Getting luggage on board. Same as on my ship. Sure, 30 minutes is a long time to wait while calling, but to complain about 25minute wait for food? Ok, when you order here is what happens. They write it down, call the kitchen. The kitchen prepares the food, calls room service. Room service goes to the other side of the ship and up several floors and and then takes it to you. That can take upwards of an hour depending on when, and what, you order.

#2 The lights would have irritated me too. Was it too dark to see? Did you call Reception? Did you notify your room steward? (not the one in the hallway, YOUR room steard) Did you call for maintenance? Anything?

#3 Your waiter should not have "passed the buck" He should have apologized for the wait, and maybe offered a drink. But don't be mad at him because it was taking a long time. I promise, it REALLY WAS the kitchen's (galley's) fault. More than likely, the restaurant was full (just because all the tables aren't full does not mean it is not packed...this can be deceptive, trust me) and the Galley was busy.

#4 Ok, I know you are mad about the alarm. That is fine. Not a huge issue. Definately not a rip off. But irritating. The announcement? gee why don't they make one in the a.m.? Because some people are sleeping. You should have simply left your room.

#5 The Coffee cup. Ok, this is a personal issue for me. So here goes. My restaurant served soft serve ice cream. We used cloth napkins (fine dining, remember?). Not one table would order ice cream without asking for paper napkins. My response. We don't have them. (the bar has them, we don't and NO i will not give you any). Why don't we have them? A few reasons: too much waste, not enviro friendly, tacky tacky tacky, they WILL get left all over the ship. You could have ordered room service, you could have taken one of the plastic or ceramic cups to your room, you could have gone to the coffee bar. Maybe the coffee person was rude, ok, but come on! Just because other ships don't give a darn about the enviroment, doesn't mean you should be mad at those that do.

Oh and to those who don't understand our "waste" process. All of that "paper" gets burned. Right on the ship. Which means smoke. The more paper, the more smoke. We try to eliminate it.

#5 You got what you paid for. A cheap, inside stateroom. On my ship, there are almost no inside rooms. 95%+ have a balconey. And let me tell you, I CAN TELL who has an inside room. It isn't the guy that paid $35,000 for a week of his room (no joke) that chews me out for not having the right napkins, it is the family of 4 that squeeze into a two person inside stateroom down on deck 4.

Look, give up on Carnival. They are not luxury, by any means. They serve their purpose. Some people are just too demanding.

Oh and the tipping issue. I hope you know your waiter probably makes less than $50 a day in wages. On Carnival it is probably closer to $20. Shame on you for complaining about his tips. Luckily, my wages are not tip based. His are. Whether the service was fabulous or mediocre, do not punish him because you disapprove of his management.

Oh, and the boat drill caught NO ONE by suprise. That was just bad management. And everything should have been closed. No need to plan for it.


Chris

Vancouver,
British Columbia,
Canada

Trust me, Everyone understands exactly the point you are trying to make.

#12UPDATE Employee

Mon, April 23, 2007

I used to work on Cruise Ships and now I Cruise for the enjoyment and love of the water. I write this out of the goodness of my own heart because there is a place in the industry for Carnival Cruise Lines and I believe this complaint to be unreasonable and overblown. I tried to provide you with the facts and a bit of inside knowledge in the hopes that they will put an end to your stress but you are not ready to admit that there is nothing to fight about.

I really don't care if you cruise on any Cruise Line ever again and maybe cruising just isn't for you. That's your choice. I just want you to get your facts together and do your research so that next time you are not disappointed!! So I'm going to try one more time and then you're on your own.

You booked an inside cabin on a Carnival Cruise Ship and expected to be treated as someone in a Suite on Crystal .. so yeah! Saying that your expectations were too high for what you paid for is bang on. Just remember that they are too high for any of the family style cruise ships industry wide.

You got a sale on your stateroom and the Inside Staterooms that were on sale were nearly sold out. That is where the Guarantee kicked in. You were Guaranteed an inside stateroom at the sale price on the date that you wanted to sail. That is the guarantee and that is what you received. There are different categories of inside staterooms and if you were to go back and do a bit of research you will more than likely discover that you did receive a one or two category upgrade even though you remained in an inside stateroom. You pay LESS with a Guarantee not MORE.

It is not Carnival's fault or your Travel Agents Fault that you didn't understand the terms of your agreement. Read the fine print, ask your Travel Agent for clarification before you cruise and next time if the Balcony is the make it or break it for your cruise book and pay for a Balcony Cabin.

If you want more staff to attend to your needs spend the extra money and book a Cruise Ship that offers a higher staff to guest ratio. They are out there, they cost more money and you can find out this information before you cruise. It is available on each of the Cruise Line websites or in the brochures.

I can assure you that the Boat Drill didn't come as a surprise to the Management onboard. They are standard, regulated and happen at least once every cruise. They are as standard as raising the anchor before the Ship sails.

The term seasoned cruiser upset you? Would you prefer savy cruiser or perhaps well-traveled individual because none of those terms are exclusive to Carnival. My goodness!

If you honestly feel that hard done by then exercise your rights by taking your business elsewhere. It honestly doesn't sound like anyone will be able to help you resolve your issues so I'm going to stop trying. Hopefully this information will be beneficial to someone else then.

Good luck in the future Timothy.

Namaste,
Chris

p.s. For Chris in Santa Monica:

Paper vs. Plastic? Were you being ironic? We aren't talking grocery bags where the plastic cups end up in a land-fill site at the end of the cruise we are talking reusable items. A plastic cup will get used again and again whereas a paper cup get used once and then will get thrown away. Why not porcelain? The ship moves, people drop them, they break, kids, barefeet Really? For real? Sheesh.


Shawangunk

Middletown,
New York,
U.S.A.

Plastic vs. paper

#12Consumer Comment

Mon, April 23, 2007

Chris asked: "Since when is plastic more environmentally friendly than paper?"

When plastic cups are washed and re-used multiple times, rather than thrown away after one single use like paper. Common sense, right?


Chris

Santa Maria,
California,
U.S.A.

Since When?

#12Consumer Comment

Sun, April 22, 2007

Since when is plastic more environmentally friendly than paper?


Timothy

Traverse City,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

Missing the point

#12Author of original report

Sun, April 22, 2007

Obviously my standards are way too high for Carnival. I should not have expected to be treated with dignity or even respect. The staff was far to thin to cover the guests, and the muster drills were so much of a suprise to the management, that they had no idea to adequetly prepare for them. any seasoned cruiser (Customer relations slingo, you work for Carnival, its your job to reply to these)


Does the fault of the guaranteed room lie with my travel agent or with Carnival? We will never know. However, when given an opportunity to " make it right" carnival chose to refuse any responsibility, and actually place blame on the customer. This was the M.O. of the entire staff and seems to be present thoughout the whole company.

No actually I'm not very hard to please I just dont like being treated like sxxx, being handed s**t, being served s**t and paying for it.

Honestly it doesn't look like I'm alone in my experience either. Both of you should go to your boss (At Carnival) and tell them to actually start taking a look into hospitallity, the missing ingredient. Stop making excuses for horrible customer care.


Shawangunk

Middletown,
New York,
U.S.A.

Sorry to hear about your experience

#12Consumer Comment

Sat, April 21, 2007

I am sorry to hear that your cruise was "ruined" over a paper cup, a broken light bulb, not knowing your waiter's name, and having to WAIT for room service and dinner . I agree, you should definitely avoid Carnival in the future, and stick to the cruiseline where you can get your "organic bees honey pankaces on a stick with marmalade imported from Thailand served with a porcupine quill and two Ostrich eggs over easy with a Basil cream sauce" and all the paper cups your heart desires.

Honestly, it sounds like you are extremely difficult to please, and that nothing any of the staff could do would have made you happy. A cruise is supposed to be a time of fun and relaxation. Don't let little things like a paper cup stress you out. Put it behind you and move on! Relax and enjoy the food, entertainment, excursions, not to mention quality time with your wife for crying out loud!


Chris

Vancouver,
British Columbia,
Canada

No real complaints present in this posting.

#12UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fri, April 20, 2007

Hi Timothy,

I too have worked for many different Cruise Lines and your concerns, although irritating, are not enough that they warrant a rant on the Rip Off Report.

Where is the Rip Off?

First of all, as a former travel agent I can tell you that a Guarantee comes up in the system when a special rate on a series of rooms are close to being sold out and you are next in line should one of those reserved rooms becomes available. It is not a guarantee for an automatic upgrade. Your guarantee is for the price that you paid and the Guarantee is that you are guaranteed a room equal to the price that you paid for the date of the cruise that you booked. The person that received the Upgrade could have received it because there were maintenance issues with their original room and it was the only other room available at the time for that Cruise. Or maybe because they were super nice to someone and they wanted to reward them for it. It happens on ships the way that it happens on airlines.

You start off by saying that you were both looking forward to a luxurious cruise but Carnival is not a luxury cruise line. They are Family Fun Ships. If you want a luxury cruise book your cruise on one of the luxury cruise lines.

Your next complaint is that you called room service as soon as you got to your room. Any seasoned Cruiser would know that this is an improper time to contact room service as every available set of hands are currently in the process of embarking 2500 guests onto the Ship just hours after 2500 guests have left the Ship. There is also a Boat Drill about to happen. If you want refreshments they are available up on the pool deck but that also closes down for Boat Drill and reopens once Boat Drill has commenced. This is by rule of the US Coast Guard and has nothing to do with the company you are sailing with. Getting your order in only 25 minutes is actually remarkable and I hoped you tipped them when they arrived.

You mention that you had already received your luggage which is wonderful considering some guests won't receive theirs until up to 8:00pm that evening. It's nothing personal there are just thousands of bags changing hands in a very short period of time.

The light bulb's being burnt out is unfortunate and probably would have been serviced if you had notified your own room steward or had even called down to the pursers desk instead of handing it off to a random person in the hallway. That's just common sense. There are people employed on ships that it is their sole job to replace light bulbs but they can't replace what they don't know about.

The waiter didn't pass the buck since he can't deliver what is not ready. Again, this is the same as in any restaurant on land and did you happen to notice how many other people were in that restaurant at the same time you were? Also, is it such a very big deal that he put the plates down in the wrong spots? Is that enough to ruin a vacation? If you wanted extra service it is available every night of the week in the Ship's Supper Club. If this had happened in the Supper Club instead of the main dining room I think you would have a valid concern considering it is a reservations only establishment that you pay extra for and you are assigned two service staff to personally look after your every whim while you are there. Otherwise you must wait your turn along with everyone else in the dining room. This is the same on every Cruise Line.

The wake-up calls always work but are unreliable because they are easy to set wrong. Always take a travel alarm with you or set the internal alarm on your cell phone as a back-up. The staff would not have been allowed to accuse you of setting it wrong so they would have blamed the system knowing that it was simply a human error on your part.

I am honestly astonished that you would be upset that someone said the word No to you. All of these minor things, some of which were not even proper issues and your final straw is the word no. With all due respects sir, this was not a chartered ship that you hired. It's a family cruise ship with 2,498 other guests to attend to. Should they have perhaps had better manners and said I am terribly sorry sir but we attempt to be as environmentally friendly as possible and don't supply paper cups onboard anymore. May I direct you to the plastic cups that are directly beside the coffee maker and are available for you 24 hours a day? There is also a Starbucks style coffee bar located on deck seven and all of the coffees are served in paper cups. There is a small charge for this premium coffee but it is so yummy and convenient that it's worth every penny! Or perhaps, may I suggest that you order room service and that will save you the trouble of carrying the cup down to your room yourself? It is also a free service that we provide onboard 24 hours a day. Have an excellent day sir! Sure. That is how they SHOULD have reacted, but, perhaps they were just having their one human moment of their contract where they had had enough of rude behavior.

And, to punish the hard working staff by robbing them of their wages by recruiting others not to tip? Sir, you should be ashamed of yourself.

I hope if you ever walk onto another Cruise Ship anywhere you do so with realistic expectations. Do yourself the honor of looking over the side of the ship at the beautiful world around you and take a moment to realize how truly lucky you are. If only to realize that life is too short for this sort of banal nonsense.

Namaste.

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