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  • Report:  #616437

Complaint Review: Carstore Automotive

Carstore Automotive Matt False and misleading information Quelph, Ontario

  • Reported By:
    citizenkane — Madoc Ontario Canada
  • Submitted:
    Wed, June 23, 2010
  • Updated:
    Fri, June 25, 2010

Several weeks ago I went on the internet to search for a set of heads for my 74 Charger. Mine were repairable, but I felt it would be easier to find a set already done. I found an ad advertising a set of Dodge 340 heads. I e-mailed the person and he said they were reconditioned and he wanted what he had into them, which was $475. He said they were just done and they and were only on his car very a very short time and the only reason he took them off was to build a new motor. I asked him to save them for me and that was i was a little short of money. I scraped up the money which was $475. and i took an extra $25. for me and my son to eat. I drove from Madoc, which is about 4 hours and I arrived at the address which was Car Store Automotive. Matt the owner was not there and the person at the counter sold me the heads. He told me it would $475. plus taxes and I assumed it was a private deal and no one never mentioned tax. I then spoke to Matt on the phone and worked out a deal with the tax and the guy at the counter helped me load the heads and as he did, he said you will not be disappointed, these heads were just rebuilt. I took the heads home and dropped them off at Carquest in Lindsay to have my valve springs installed that match my cam shaft. The Carquest employee told me the cost to change the springs over would cost approximately $80.-$100.


A few days later he called me and said you better have a look at these heads. I drove the 2 hours to Carquest in Lindsay and the employee showed me the issue with the heads. I was a mechanic for approximately 10 years and have been building my own race engines for many years, so I know what I am looking at. The employee at the machine shop showed me the guides which had an extreme amount of clearance and were actually out of round. the valve seats were also in very poor condition and needed to be repaired. The employee said the only way to fix the heads is to install bronze valve guides. He gave me a price of $350. to do everything required, including the original work I requested. At that point I thought of returning the heads, but I spent $50. on gas and now owed the Carquest for the work he started. I wrote Matt at Car Store and his response was, that Carquest was hosing me. I told him I saw the heads myself and that there was no way the were just rebuilt. He said he would recover the money from the machine shop then return the money to me. Weeks went by and in the end, his machine shop said the work was done six months earlier and he done the work required. Matt at Car Store told me to fight with his machine shop if I wanted any money back. I told him, I bought the heads off him and he is reponsible. He refused to help me and I threatened him with small claims and after many e-mails back and forth he said send the heads back in the condition I bought them and he knew my machine shop already started to work on them at that point. He also offered to send me $100. towards the work on the heads at some point and about 5 days later I e-mailed him to confirm he sent the money. He told me to quit bugging him, he was away and would sends it later. I said this has been going on long enough and I would just file against him. He then sent me a picture of an envelope addressed to me that sitting on a desk and said I was just going to mail it, but he was not sending it now. I emailed him and said I thought you were away and he said I am at a funeral and he stopped at his business in the morning. I called his business and asked if Matt was in and the person on the other end said, yes just a minute. This was just after he mailed me the picture. I was respectful the whole time and in the end, I decided to take the $100. just to end this. In the end i spent $500, for the heads and another $350. to fix them. I sent gas money to buy the heads and several trips to the Carquest to talk to the employee there. I basically have $1000. invested in a used set of heads and I could have almost new.
 I would just like to add that Matt accused me of trying to get something for nothing and Carquest is just ripping me off. The person at Carquest is just an employee and gets a paycheck. He was also very busy at the time and really did not have time to do the heads, so he has no reason to be dishonest. As far as me trying to make a buck, is absurd. I only wanted a portion of what I paid to fix the heads, because I knew Matt just spent money on these heads and obviously the work was not done, or done improperly.It makes no sense to pay to have a set of heads rebuilt, if they were just done. I also bought these heads because they supposedly in bolt on condition and me and my son wanted to make a local car show. To send then out to get fixed and miss the show for nothing, makes no sense either. To top it off, if I wanted to rebuild heads i would of fixed my own and i thought I was saving time by buying reconditioned. 


He will say he has a bill for the work done and that he offered my money back. He offered my money back 6 weeks later and after dozens of emails. He said I want the heads back untouched and he knew I had a bill at Carquest for starting the work. He will accuse me of harassment and although I had his home phone and home address, I only emailed his business e-mail. He will say I slandered his name and this was after repeated attempts to solve this. He will say I am building a different type of car and need the extra money to do it, and I am not sure how he knows this, but I live 4 hours from his place and i building a car similar to the one he owned. All I wanted was a portion of the cost, because I thought he was ripped by Guelph Machine shop, who obviously did not do the work right to start with. He just does not want to pay and he played games for almost two monts.

1 Updates & Rebuttals


citizenkane

Madoc,
Ontario,
Canada

carstore refuses to answer

#2Author of original report

Fri, June 25, 2010

Carstore accuses me of trying to extort him for $125. He says people can see through my efforts to extort him for $125., yes $125. I am out a $1000. but I want to extort him for $125. Now this site is extorting people. He claims there a many good companies on here. He may be right, but a good company would make solid efforts to solve minor issues. He would not respond here but wrote me this. 


    Everyone knows about these kinds of websites. That is why they are always in court. I will not even respond or try to rebut anything in these websites and the like. There are some very fine companies in there,some of them that I was reading about were fortune 500 ones. Anyone can say anything.
  Real people can see through anything that you might write. You see I am a local business and that is where I thrive. I live not a block from my shop. I am not selling widgets over seas and relying on the internet. I do beleive in the BBB that is why I have been part of that non profit organization for over 10 years. You are the only man that has ever called them other than a employee that i let go back in 2002. I generate aprox 200 to 250 invoices for service a month and sell about 20 to 30 cars a month so do the math and logic should tell you that with these numbers I should have quite a bit of activity with the BBB.(if i am truely the person you say i am)  Why do I not then? Surely I must have made some one like yourself angry or disgrunted in the course of the last 15 year.. BBB have only reported since 2000 .  You are the only one with that would take the time? gee something just does not compute. Think about it. Really think about it.
 
     >>>> I will give you a few facts.  The company you contacted is in numerous litigations has been sited by the BBB 24 times without a single response from RipOffReport. They attempt to hide behind 230 as merely an independent publisher which takes no position yet incites individuals to publish malicious information and does not verify or authenticate the information and the source. They publish this freely. On the other hand when the Company attempts to defend itself as it seems it would be able to or the posting mention the questionable practices of RipOffReport, those rebuttals never make the posting. At a later date the Publisher attempts to extort money from the Company under the guise of some service. Therefore the only way the Company can even begin to defend its reputation is to pay to an unscrupulous publisher who in fact acts as a promoter to invite malicious posting to further his financial cause. We believe this borders on criminal extortion in that one can post anonymously without any verification or authenticity for free and continue to do so at will and a response to resurrect or correct the information is a negotiated extortion lining the pockets of the publisher. The deeper the pockets of the Company the more the publisher can extort. In my opinion if these acts do not cross the line from civil to criminal i dont know what does. It is extortion at its finest. This publisher likes to hide behind 230, saying they are merely a publisher whos hands are clean, but they have not only taken an active and deliberate interest by editing inflamatory postings and then specifically and with intent disallowing the posting which would mitigate or vindicate the Company being slandered, they have clearly crossed the line drawn for protection from the Courts viewing this case as an innocent independent publisher. It is patently clear that there is no altruistic intent by the publisher but merely posing as a credible consumer advocacy organization like the BBB acting on behalf of consumers. Unfortunately, there are some slight differences. BBB is a non-profit.  BBB gets involved in settling disputes among parties and does not ask for money nor extort money to assist in results. RipOffReport simply encourages filing of reports and virtually invites frivolous claims since there are no checks and balances and the more the merrier as it provides a fresh crop of companies it can extort as know can clear their name without paying exhorbitent fees on a continuing basis. It is ironic how they propose to be this organization for the consumer yet have failed to answer even a single of 24 complaints against it by the BBB 16 alone in the last year. This along with over a dozen lawsuits in different stages in various jurisdictions domestically and internationally.  .
   . footnote ..   i have many many happy customers. You cant hurt me,as much as you may try.  I feel quite sorry that you have this obsession ..BBB said it right when they mentioned to me. >A business will never be able to please everyone, but for over 10 years you have. that is why I am A + rated and still am .So I must be doing something right.    I think I know your kind .It is now making sense to me.
   I worked for a company in the 1990s called Accu-fax investigations. back then it was out of streetsville. (we would hold our meetings at hotels around the airport strip)(went to college for law and security,was even at the Elmer Police college a few times). I was responsible for some spying and security during the postal strike. you may remember it.  I did not do it very long. I got out of that business. too many undesireables that had chips on their shoulders and thought they had something to prove. You remind me very much of those guys and girls that I worked with.  Try not to take it the wrong way.  I hope one day you find peace in your life.  Focus your energy in things that will better you and your family. I believe that I am right and so do you. but the difference is you wish to demean and hurt.  You have called me many names and have made character references about me. If this makes you happy continue. I really am not in the least worried about it. I have hundreds of happy customers and sleep very well at night knowing I provide them with excellent service .
  The endless emails stop right now.   I have a life and a family....you should get on with yours. Deep down you know 
 

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