Complaint Review: Central Community College & Werner Enterprises

I was in Werners driver training program for about 60 days. Then went on to drive for them for a little over two years. The problem with the training program is that they do abuse having two drivers in the truck. I drove my a*s off making money for the idiot in the bunk. And to rub it in he would show me his pay on the qualcom. I drove while he slept. When it was his turn 9 times out of ten id wake up and we would be parked because he was tired. He told me i was an excellent driver and didnt need supervision. He was getting huge paychecks for my miles and dispatch ran us as a team. Its a good way to get your foot in the door if you want to drive trucks. But as soon as you demonstrate that you can keep it between the lines you will be the driver and your trainer turns into rip van winkle.

Team Werner lol

I was in Werners driver training program for about 60 days. Then went on to drive for them for a little over two years. The problem with the training program is that they do abuse having two drivers in the truck. I drove my a*s off making money for the idiot in the bunk. And to rub it in he would show me his pay on the qualcom. I drove while he slept. When it was his turn 9 times out of ten id wake up and we would be parked because he was tired. He told me i was an excellent driver and didnt need supervision. He was getting huge paychecks for my miles and dispatch ran us as a team. Its a good way to get your foot in the door if you want to drive trucks. But as soon as you demonstrate that you can keep it between the lines you will be the driver and your trainer turns into rip van winkle.

Team Werner lol

I was in Werners driver training program for about 60 days. Then went on to drive for them for a little over two years. The problem with the training program is that they do abuse having two drivers in the truck. I drove my a*s off making money for the idiot in the bunk. And to rub it in he would show me his pay on the qualcom. I drove while he slept. When it was his turn 9 times out of ten id wake up and we would be parked because he was tired. He told me i was an excellent driver and didnt need supervision. He was getting huge paychecks for my miles and dispatch ran us as a team. Its a good way to get your foot in the door if you want to drive trucks. But as soon as you demonstrate that you can keep it between the lines you will be the driver and your trainer turns into rip van winkle.

Team Werner lol

I was in Werners driver training program for about 60 days. Then went on to drive for them for a little over two years. The problem with the training program is that they do abuse having two drivers in the truck. I drove my a*s off making money for the idiot in the bunk. And to rub it in he would show me his pay on the qualcom. I drove while he slept. When it was his turn 9 times out of ten id wake up and we would be parked because he was tired. He told me i was an excellent driver and didnt need supervision. He was getting huge paychecks for my miles and dispatch ran us as a team. Its a good way to get your foot in the door if you want to drive trucks. But as soon as you demonstrate that you can keep it between the lines you will be the driver and your trainer turns into rip van winkle.

Team Werner lol

the longer it takes to place you with a truck
the more money a company has to pay for you waiting on them.

they will get rid of you.

but you know? when you look at the cost of training a driver wich has been tallied at just under 10,000 dollars they had better figure it out.

most people you talk to or read about in here have the same thing in common. they expected a certain thing as agreed to and didnt receive any thing close to it.

i wouldnt pay the tuition either!
and to you drivers out there who say " but thats the way the industry is"
just because you wouldnt fight for your selves it is wrong to expect others to follow you.

every man i spoke to who ownes his owne truck has done so because of all this crap.
so you see its not the industry its the trucking companies.

if you have your owne truck then you eliminate the carriers themselves.

and beleive it or not there are more owneroperators than carrier companies.

deal with the shipper and receiver and the rest goes away. there are two types in trucking, the people who are there to make money and those who have no where else to go.

companies prefer those who have no where else to go.

I find Mr. Jonjo Dixon's comments very
intriguing. Mr. Dixon's relationship to Werner
is devotee, but I suspect his interest runs much
deeper.

"It has been my experience that when it comes
down to the termination of a student trainee it
is the outcome of not cooperating."

I gave Werner my full cooperation and they
maintain I quit. I was NOT terminated from
Werner. Werner will never terminate drivers.
Also, I was not paid for two weeks of waiting.

"The real training comes from hands on
experience out on the road with a quailified,
certified, driver trainer. And that comes from
running loads."

This is statement is mostly false.
A trainer can help a student obtain experience,
but ultimately it is the Driver-through years
of on-the- road experience-that becomes a
"qualified" driver. Werner's 4 week, 8 week,
or 12 week programs do not guarantee a safe
or qualified driver.

"I tell you this so that you can appreciate when
a company as big as Werner Enterprises sends
just about anyone that wants the opportunity
to become a "truck driver" the luxuries of going
to a college based training facility."

These statements are amusing. It's a luxury to
go to college? It sounds like Mr. Dixon never
applied for a job. Werner's Human Resources
carefully determines who will be sent to
Central Community College; this is no haphazard
arrangement! A low salary was to be expected
for obtaining driving experience. Yes, Werner
profits off its training program--it's no
training charity!

As a final note, I would like to comment about
the anti-Werner site. The creators of this site
receive no money from the people it benefits.
From the numerous posts I saw here,
the original complaint filed to this site still
holds valid.

I have been in the transportation industry since 1977 and have trained new drivers since 1979 for numerous companies. I recently left Werner for other reasons which do not apply at this time. Many of our new drivers feel that because they attended a school that they should instantly be on their own. Werner has one of the best training programs in the industry today. A student driver has to accrue 275 driving hours with a trainer, hours are tracked by the electronic log system.

There are three stages of dispatching. The first three days a student trainer team can ONLY be dispatched on SOLO loads, then stage two they can only be dispatched a maximum of 750 miles in a 24 hour period. If a driver is worth anything at all a solo can do that also alone. Then after two weeks with the approval of the trainer mileage limits are lifted. At any time at the request of the student trainer team the stage of training can be reduced for safety reasons. A student has the option to take a week of paid time off around the half way pointof his training. Werner pays transportation costs and their wages for 7 days at home, then pays their transportation costs back to a terminal closest to their home. Werner pays motel costs while that student awaits assignment to another trainer.

Sometimes the wait for trainers becomes a long one because trainers are trainers at their choice and may take breaks from training at their discretion.The waits are not Werner's fault! Mnay people are entering this industry and only so many trainers are available.

Werner has three divisions pertaining to training/van/refer/flatbed. No sense training a driver outside of what he wants to do. They do offer the student a smoking or non smoking environment, this is the student's choice. I smoke and had both smoking and non smoking students. Female students have the above choices as well as the choice between waiting for a female student or a coed trainer. Male trainers qualified to train women are screened for a criminal background are are closely watched for problems with their students.

Werner has an excellent training program, however,
TRUCKING IS NOT FOR EVERYONE!

If Werner and I could work out our difference I would return to them in a heartbeat.

They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:





Their name: jonjo dixon



Their relationship to the company: Devotee



Rebuttal:

This is in response to the article above that I have just read. I find the words collusion and illegal to be harsh and inflammatory. I have been a "Certified Trainer" with several trucking companies for the last three years and yes one of those companies happened to be Werner Enterprises. I have a total of 10 years over the road experience and have accomplished over one million accident free miles. I take what I do very seriously and

strive to give something back to the industry.



I came into the industry back in 1983. I enrolled in one of the very first Truck Driving Schools. Took out a 2500 dollar student loan and successfully graduated over the course of about 8 months. But still companies where leary of hiring anyone without actual over the road experience and a "driver training program" was non existent. It wasn't until 1988 when a trucking company saw an innovative light and combined forces with the training facility. They brought in candidates from across country and paid for their tuition. After they graduated a 3 week program

with the school and obtained their commercial licensing requirements, would be hired as a trainee status and sent out with an experienced driver for four weeks. After which the trainee was upgraded to a second seat driver. Was then placed with an upgraded first seat driver, and they drove

as a team until the second seat was upgraded to a first seat driver. Then he would get his upgraded, newly trained, upgraded second seat driver to team with. Coast to coast, 48 states, out for two to three weeks at a time in a flat top cab over. This was one of the first training program in existence in the industry.



I tell you this so that you can appreciate when a company as big as Werner Enterprises sends just about anyone that wants the opportunity to become a "truck driver" the luxuries of going to a college based training facility. As for being treated differently than the other Hastings local students. I'm sure that certain negotiations with the college and Werner where put

into effect to keep costs down for Werner and Werner students. Werner itself has a multi million dollar computer based training facility at their Omaha terminal that all trainees are inducted through.



I admit that when I was a Certified Driver Trainer with Werner, there was a very low surplus of nonsmoking trainers as well as female trainers. Though I don't know of this persons personal experience, I am sure that he was afforded the opportunity to finish his training with a smoking trainer. A trainer like myself that had been approached, and asked if I would mind taking a nonsmoking trainee and try to make special

accommodation and considerations. Which I had no problem with. I

understand and appreciate that not everyone smokes. Unfortunately I like so many drivers do. Unfortunately this candidate opted to wait in the motel room, provided by Werner in the hopes of an open slot with a nonsmoking trainer. Subsequently being sent home.



Now as for being a student driver and being forced to operate as a team by the insidious "qual comm" and the dispatchers. The training program Werner has in effect does not reflect achievement in weeks of training. The trainee has to log a set amount of actual driving hours behind the wheel before they can test out. The trainee is not allowed to drive during certain hours of operation until an amount of hours are logged behind the

wheel. Once the trainee has successfully logged the required amount of hours, and has proven himself to his trainer. Then and only then will the truck be allowed to operate as team status. We are in the business of hauling freight people. That's what its all about. That's how Werner makes money to pay us, keep our equipment up to date, pay for training, benefits, and keep the company flourishing. That's why we become drivers. With the wonderful innovation of having paperless logs, the qual comm

keeps everyone legal without the hassles of tedious logging requirements by hand. Not only beneficial to the drivers time but also his wallet.



There are stiff fines out there that you can incur without being aware of it. But ignorance of the law or inexperience will not keep you from having to pay them. That's why its up to us as trainers to try and pass this information on to you as new drivers. And we only have you for a small amount of time. I personally think that the training program should be longer than the approximated eight weeks. With industry changes we may be

seeing some training changes.



What it comes down to is this. If you truly want to be apart of this industry there is going to be a certain amount of compromise. Not everyone is cut out for it. The schools serve their purpose. To give you a safe environment for you to gain the skills and information necessary for you to obtain your Class A CDL. After that the real experience comes from the

companies training program. You decide your fate. You are in control of your destiny and the kind of driver that you want to be. Pay close attention to your trainer and learn from his experiences. I'm not going to lie to you. There are some bad trainers out there. But Werner does a good job of weeding them out. As companies go I give two thumbs up to Werner

Enterprises and their training program. Be safe and God bless.



GRAMPA JOE.

They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:





Their name: jonjo dixon



Their relationship to the company: Devotee



Rebuttal:

This is in response to the article above that I have just read. I find the words collusion and illegal to be harsh and inflammatory. I have been a "Certified Trainer" with several trucking companies for the last three years and yes one of those companies happened to be Werner Enterprises. I have a total of 10 years over the road experience and have accomplished over one million accident free miles. I take what I do very seriously and

strive to give something back to the industry.



I came into the industry back in 1983. I enrolled in one of the very first Truck Driving Schools. Took out a 2500 dollar student loan and successfully graduated over the course of about 8 months. But still companies where leary of hiring anyone without actual over the road experience and a "driver training program" was non existent. It wasn't until 1988 when a trucking company saw an innovative light and combined forces with the training facility. They brought in candidates from across country and paid for their tuition. After they graduated a 3 week program

with the school and obtained their commercial licensing requirements, would be hired as a trainee status and sent out with an experienced driver for four weeks. After which the trainee was upgraded to a second seat driver. Was then placed with an upgraded first seat driver, and they drove

as a team until the second seat was upgraded to a first seat driver. Then he would get his upgraded, newly trained, upgraded second seat driver to team with. Coast to coast, 48 states, out for two to three weeks at a time in a flat top cab over. This was one of the first training program in existence in the industry.



I tell you this so that you can appreciate when a company as big as Werner Enterprises sends just about anyone that wants the opportunity to become a "truck driver" the luxuries of going to a college based training facility. As for being treated differently than the other Hastings local students. I'm sure that certain negotiations with the college and Werner where put

into effect to keep costs down for Werner and Werner students. Werner itself has a multi million dollar computer based training facility at their Omaha terminal that all trainees are inducted through.



I admit that when I was a Certified Driver Trainer with Werner, there was a very low surplus of nonsmoking trainers as well as female trainers. Though I don't know of this persons personal experience, I am sure that he was afforded the opportunity to finish his training with a smoking trainer. A trainer like myself that had been approached, and asked if I would mind taking a nonsmoking trainee and try to make special

accommodation and considerations. Which I had no problem with. I

understand and appreciate that not everyone smokes. Unfortunately I like so many drivers do. Unfortunately this candidate opted to wait in the motel room, provided by Werner in the hopes of an open slot with a nonsmoking trainer. Subsequently being sent home.



Now as for being a student driver and being forced to operate as a team by the insidious "qual comm" and the dispatchers. The training program Werner has in effect does not reflect achievement in weeks of training. The trainee has to log a set amount of actual driving hours behind the wheel before they can test out. The trainee is not allowed to drive during certain hours of operation until an amount of hours are logged behind the

wheel. Once the trainee has successfully logged the required amount of hours, and has proven himself to his trainer. Then and only then will the truck be allowed to operate as team status. We are in the business of hauling freight people. That's what its all about. That's how Werner makes money to pay us, keep our equipment up to date, pay for training, benefits, and keep the company flourishing. That's why we become drivers. With the wonderful innovation of having paperless logs, the qual comm

keeps everyone legal without the hassles of tedious logging requirements by hand. Not only beneficial to the drivers time but also his wallet.



There are stiff fines out there that you can incur without being aware of it. But ignorance of the law or inexperience will not keep you from having to pay them. That's why its up to us as trainers to try and pass this information on to you as new drivers. And we only have you for a small amount of time. I personally think that the training program should be longer than the approximated eight weeks. With industry changes we may be

seeing some training changes.



What it comes down to is this. If you truly want to be apart of this industry there is going to be a certain amount of compromise. Not everyone is cut out for it. The schools serve their purpose. To give you a safe environment for you to gain the skills and information necessary for you to obtain your Class A CDL. After that the real experience comes from the

companies training program. You decide your fate. You are in control of your destiny and the kind of driver that you want to be. Pay close attention to your trainer and learn from his experiences. I'm not going to lie to you. There are some bad trainers out there. But Werner does a good job of weeding them out. As companies go I give two thumbs up to Werner

Enterprises and their training program. Be safe and God bless.



GRAMPA JOE.

They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:





Their name: jonjo dixon



Their relationship to the company: Devotee



Rebuttal:

This is in response to the article above that I have just read. I find the words collusion and illegal to be harsh and inflammatory. I have been a "Certified Trainer" with several trucking companies for the last three years and yes one of those companies happened to be Werner Enterprises. I have a total of 10 years over the road experience and have accomplished over one million accident free miles. I take what I do very seriously and

strive to give something back to the industry.



I came into the industry back in 1983. I enrolled in one of the very first Truck Driving Schools. Took out a 2500 dollar student loan and successfully graduated over the course of about 8 months. But still companies where leary of hiring anyone without actual over the road experience and a "driver training program" was non existent. It wasn't until 1988 when a trucking company saw an innovative light and combined forces with the training facility. They brought in candidates from across country and paid for their tuition. After they graduated a 3 week program

with the school and obtained their commercial licensing requirements, would be hired as a trainee status and sent out with an experienced driver for four weeks. After which the trainee was upgraded to a second seat driver. Was then placed with an upgraded first seat driver, and they drove

as a team until the second seat was upgraded to a first seat driver. Then he would get his upgraded, newly trained, upgraded second seat driver to team with. Coast to coast, 48 states, out for two to three weeks at a time in a flat top cab over. This was one of the first training program in existence in the industry.



I tell you this so that you can appreciate when a company as big as Werner Enterprises sends just about anyone that wants the opportunity to become a "truck driver" the luxuries of going to a college based training facility. As for being treated differently than the other Hastings local students. I'm sure that certain negotiations with the college and Werner where put

into effect to keep costs down for Werner and Werner students. Werner itself has a multi million dollar computer based training facility at their Omaha terminal that all trainees are inducted through.



I admit that when I was a Certified Driver Trainer with Werner, there was a very low surplus of nonsmoking trainers as well as female trainers. Though I don't know of this persons personal experience, I am sure that he was afforded the opportunity to finish his training with a smoking trainer. A trainer like myself that had been approached, and asked if I would mind taking a nonsmoking trainee and try to make special

accommodation and considerations. Which I had no problem with. I

understand and appreciate that not everyone smokes. Unfortunately I like so many drivers do. Unfortunately this candidate opted to wait in the motel room, provided by Werner in the hopes of an open slot with a nonsmoking trainer. Subsequently being sent home.



Now as for being a student driver and being forced to operate as a team by the insidious "qual comm" and the dispatchers. The training program Werner has in effect does not reflect achievement in weeks of training. The trainee has to log a set amount of actual driving hours behind the wheel before they can test out. The trainee is not allowed to drive during certain hours of operation until an amount of hours are logged behind the

wheel. Once the trainee has successfully logged the required amount of hours, and has proven himself to his trainer. Then and only then will the truck be allowed to operate as team status. We are in the business of hauling freight people. That's what its all about. That's how Werner makes money to pay us, keep our equipment up to date, pay for training, benefits, and keep the company flourishing. That's why we become drivers. With the wonderful innovation of having paperless logs, the qual comm

keeps everyone legal without the hassles of tedious logging requirements by hand. Not only beneficial to the drivers time but also his wallet.



There are stiff fines out there that you can incur without being aware of it. But ignorance of the law or inexperience will not keep you from having to pay them. That's why its up to us as trainers to try and pass this information on to you as new drivers. And we only have you for a small amount of time. I personally think that the training program should be longer than the approximated eight weeks. With industry changes we may be

seeing some training changes.



What it comes down to is this. If you truly want to be apart of this industry there is going to be a certain amount of compromise. Not everyone is cut out for it. The schools serve their purpose. To give you a safe environment for you to gain the skills and information necessary for you to obtain your Class A CDL. After that the real experience comes from the

companies training program. You decide your fate. You are in control of your destiny and the kind of driver that you want to be. Pay close attention to your trainer and learn from his experiences. I'm not going to lie to you. There are some bad trainers out there. But Werner does a good job of weeding them out. As companies go I give two thumbs up to Werner

Enterprises and their training program. Be safe and God bless.



GRAMPA JOE.

They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:





Their name: jonjo dixon



Their relationship to the company: Devotee



Rebuttal:

This is in response to the article above that I have just read. I find the words collusion and illegal to be harsh and inflammatory. I have been a "Certified Trainer" with several trucking companies for the last three years and yes one of those companies happened to be Werner Enterprises. I have a total of 10 years over the road experience and have accomplished over one million accident free miles. I take what I do very seriously and

strive to give something back to the industry.



I came into the industry back in 1983. I enrolled in one of the very first Truck Driving Schools. Took out a 2500 dollar student loan and successfully graduated over the course of about 8 months. But still companies where leary of hiring anyone without actual over the road experience and a "driver training program" was non existent. It wasn't until 1988 when a trucking company saw an innovative light and combined forces with the training facility. They brought in candidates from across country and paid for their tuition. After they graduated a 3 week program

with the school and obtained their commercial licensing requirements, would be hired as a trainee status and sent out with an experienced driver for four weeks. After which the trainee was upgraded to a second seat driver. Was then placed with an upgraded first seat driver, and they drove

as a team until the second seat was upgraded to a first seat driver. Then he would get his upgraded, newly trained, upgraded second seat driver to team with. Coast to coast, 48 states, out for two to three weeks at a time in a flat top cab over. This was one of the first training program in existence in the industry.



I tell you this so that you can appreciate when a company as big as Werner Enterprises sends just about anyone that wants the opportunity to become a "truck driver" the luxuries of going to a college based training facility. As for being treated differently than the other Hastings local students. I'm sure that certain negotiations with the college and Werner where put

into effect to keep costs down for Werner and Werner students. Werner itself has a multi million dollar computer based training facility at their Omaha terminal that all trainees are inducted through.



I admit that when I was a Certified Driver Trainer with Werner, there was a very low surplus of nonsmoking trainers as well as female trainers. Though I don't know of this persons personal experience, I am sure that he was afforded the opportunity to finish his training with a smoking trainer. A trainer like myself that had been approached, and asked if I would mind taking a nonsmoking trainee and try to make special

accommodation and considerations. Which I had no problem with. I

understand and appreciate that not everyone smokes. Unfortunately I like so many drivers do. Unfortunately this candidate opted to wait in the motel room, provided by Werner in the hopes of an open slot with a nonsmoking trainer. Subsequently being sent home.



Now as for being a student driver and being forced to operate as a team by the insidious "qual comm" and the dispatchers. The training program Werner has in effect does not reflect achievement in weeks of training. The trainee has to log a set amount of actual driving hours behind the wheel before they can test out. The trainee is not allowed to drive during certain hours of operation until an amount of hours are logged behind the

wheel. Once the trainee has successfully logged the required amount of hours, and has proven himself to his trainer. Then and only then will the truck be allowed to operate as team status. We are in the business of hauling freight people. That's what its all about. That's how Werner makes money to pay us, keep our equipment up to date, pay for training, benefits, and keep the company flourishing. That's why we become drivers. With the wonderful innovation of having paperless logs, the qual comm

keeps everyone legal without the hassles of tedious logging requirements by hand. Not only beneficial to the drivers time but also his wallet.



There are stiff fines out there that you can incur without being aware of it. But ignorance of the law or inexperience will not keep you from having to pay them. That's why its up to us as trainers to try and pass this information on to you as new drivers. And we only have you for a small amount of time. I personally think that the training program should be longer than the approximated eight weeks. With industry changes we may be

seeing some training changes.



What it comes down to is this. If you truly want to be apart of this industry there is going to be a certain amount of compromise. Not everyone is cut out for it. The schools serve their purpose. To give you a safe environment for you to gain the skills and information necessary for you to obtain your Class A CDL. After that the real experience comes from the

companies training program. You decide your fate. You are in control of your destiny and the kind of driver that you want to be. Pay close attention to your trainer and learn from his experiences. I'm not going to lie to you. There are some bad trainers out there. But Werner does a good job of weeding them out. As companies go I give two thumbs up to Werner

Enterprises and their training program. Be safe and God bless.



GRAMPA JOE.

They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:



Their name: jonjo dixon



Their relationship to the company: Devotee



Rebuttal:

I have just read the article about werner enterprises and their training program. I have been a trainer with werner in the past. I am no longer employed with them at my request. I have ten years over the road experience and three of them where as a certified trainer.



I am real sorry to hear of that persons experience with the company. Though i don't know what happened to him first hand i can only speculate. It has been my experience that when it comes down to the termination of a student trainee it is the outcome of not cooperating.



There is such a high demand for trainers in the industry and the

possibilities of getting a non-smoking trainer is few and far between. Alot of us older drivers come from the time when smoking was shoved down our throats with bill boards, advertisements, and movie stars. The trainee would have been opted to train his last four weeks with a smoking trainer,

but for whatever reason he declined. In business and in life sometimes you have to make sacrifices to get things ccomplished. Even though it would have been an imposition for the trainee to be in a smoking environment for the four weeks, it would have however afforded him his final training phase. But instead he was placed in a motel room at werners expense, to wait for an open slot with a non-smoking trainer and eventually dismissed.



Werner invests thousands of dollars to train individuals that "want" the opportunity to become drivers. Driving schools conected with colleges is one alternative. But keep in mind that the driving school itself does not make a driver. It gives you a safe environment to gain the skills necessary to obtain a Class A CDL, nothing more. The real training comes from hands on experience out on the road with a quailified, certified, driver trainer. And that comes from running loads. Thats what drivers do.



Werner is in the business of hauling freight. Thats how we get paid. Thats how we get new trucks. Thats what trucking is all about. And let me assure you from experience, no trainer is going to run as a full flegded team until the trainer is personally convinced that his trainee is qualified to do so. Once you prove to your trainer that you can handle the truck

reponsibly, safetly, and without constant supervision, then and only then will the truck start running as a team. That is why werners training program is 8 weeks long. I personally think that it should be longer but we will probably be seeing changes in industry standards in the future.



I personally beleive that werner has a lot to offer in the industry, especially when it comes to training. But this is only one mans opinion.



And now you have heard two differing opinions. So my advice to you is reserve yours for yourself.



Thankyou.