Complaint Review: Changing Faces Consulting And/or Mylai Tenner

This debt has been paid over 15 months ago. The complainant was asked to post it was paid and redact the personal emails posted and has refused. This matter was settled and there is no further reason for anyone to continue posting responses and or the complainant posting responses.  Enough energy and harm has been done and we all need to move on and be productive adults in whatever genre that we are working in.

Thank You and Good Luck

My gosh! I can not believe Mr. Tenner let this get to court. After reading a few of the emails sent between the two parties, I am in shock. First, I could barely read Mr. Tenner's emails. His spelling was so horrible they didn't make sense and I had to strain to read them. At times I had to give up, I just couldn't read what he was trying to say. This isn't just a criticism of his spelling. In court and in his emails, he complained about the work product as his reason for not paying. He is the one that did the "written product". The hired company did the graphics and design. He says he had to change the name of his business because of this. Well, why didn't he just pay the 700.00 bill? Such a small amount of money to lose your business over Mr. Tenner. A perfect example of cutting off your nose in spite of your face. You didn't pay a 700.00 bill in trade for a 100k business loss? Does this make sense?

All your threatening emails I read with profanity I wouldn't tolerate in my home by an adult. You are a piece of work, Mr. Tenner. Might be time for you to get out of business and go to work for someone else. You are not making very smart business decisions.

I wouldn't even have known about this except you chose to be on television for the nation to see. Foolish.

I really feel sorry for Solid Imaging and Design Graphics having to deal with you. What an unproductive year she had spending any time on you and your bologna.

Ridiculous. Thanks for the warning though. I will be sure to stay away from you in the future.

I just watched your case on TV, and realized that this happened last year.

Judge Alex ruled that Mr. Tenner should pay his debt and I agree. It's obvious that he owes the money, especially if he did indeed offer for sale some of the artwork she created.

Pay up, shut and move on with your lives. Don't let this issue consume you. It's only $700. I'm sure Ms. BJC has spent much more than that persuing this matter.

I agree with the previous poster that this situation has only resulted in my not wanting to do business with either of you.

Please move on.

As a small business owner I get it and I would be willing to bet after watching these two on TV that no matter how small the bill Mr Tenner pays a little more attention to his responsibility to pay his bills. While I have never gone this route to receive payment of a debt I have taken many to small claims court and won every battle.

Wow these two went at each other on TV, what a fight. In the end the non-paying motivational speaker was proved liable in court to pay fees for the job. Wow.

Amazing this was on tv and I caught it on my day off. OBTW great work on the graphc's designs.

Well according to my phone conversation Barabara Told me she was moving to Arizona to be with her husband that lives there. This situation has been an attempt to strong arm me on paying a business deal that went array because of non communication, quick actions and assumptions.

I also I have noticed you editing your comments through out these litany of entries on this site: So that lets me know that you can take off the things that you put on there.

Why do you attack me and try and make it seem like i am not professional. I am writing a book Titled "How not to get Child Support Broke" Not don't pay child support. There are many men out there that pay child support but are getting raped by the system and the mothers because of a variety of reasons including myself....

So that statement of breed them but don't feed them is totaly false..

The crack pot books you say that I have written are false they have helped countless of children, students and young adults. That's wrong and slanderous..

All I ever wanted is to be trteated fair and all you have done is attack me and lie about threatening phone calls. There where no threats and you know that. I have elance reports of your excellent rating so why would it totally turn around all of a sudden.

I also never got the certified letters because I was not expecting mail. when I did go there the letters where sent back.

If you respond to this or put anymore comments on this site or any other sites you will not receive any potential settlement. Hense I am only settling with you because this is hurting my business and reputation. This is not any admission of guilt. You must take all these entries off if you want any money for the settlement. That is FINAL

So to Recap. Any more entries and non removal of the messages will result in non payment end off story. I just talked with you last week and said we would talk in 30 days because of family health issues. I must be dumb to keep giving you chances to solve this deal. But this is it. I will call you at your residence to confirm I am sorry this worked out this way, but you will not budge or work with me in any way shape or form....

I sent two certified letters to Mr. Tenner. He refused to pick them up.

I sent the final print CD to him on the date specified above. It was delivered on the date specified above. There is no paper -- the confirmation is registered online with the USPS and nobody's getting my password.

As a direct result of Mr. Tenner not paying his invoice (which was sent to him three times via email to each of his three email address for a total of nine times), sent twice via certified mail (which he refused to pick up), AND sent yet again with the delivery confirmation CD, we were unable to pay a mortgage payment and are in the process of being foreclosed on and losing our home. I sincerely hope that makes him happy. Just remember, "What goes around, comes around."

For someone who says he's concerned about feeding his family, I find it ironic that he's writing another of his misspelled crackpot "books" on how to avoid paying child support. I find it unbelievable for any school to have this guy speak to their children, teenagers or young adults. Absolutely unbelievable.

I've saved every one of his screaming and yelling and ultimatum-giving phone messages. I have six of them. Not yelling, huh? I had my husband listen to them; he couldn't believe how this guy was screaming and yelling at me in his so-called "reasonable" messages.

You know what? I'm sick to death of pukes like you. Just go away. I have enough happening without having to deal with ignorant racists like yourself.

After much heart ache and phone calls the vendor called me back and said she cant talk about this situtation because she has some family medical situations. So I told Barbara Mclatin from Utah (& in the process of moving to Arizona) that I would wait 30 days to bring this to conclusion....

So Thanks Rob from NY I agree with you.. This is so unprofessional. However i had to protect my name. She has slandered me so bad it crazy and the thing about she wrong and has no legal merit but keeps blasting me.

I think this site needs to change rules and take of the personal emails that people are sending on others its not right. I have lost some potential jobs because of this site.

if there is any way to get this stuff off here someone please let me no. Its ruining my earning potential to take care of my family...

BOTH of you should knock it off with this assinine internet war.

I said it earlier in this report, and I'll say it again -CERTIFIED MAIL.

Ya can't have a conversation if one of the two folks won't talk, so lay off this internet nonsense and start using certified mail to reach a resolution.

BOTH of you are convincing me (and I suspect others reading this) TO NOT CONDUCT BUSINESS WITH EITHER OF YOU.

UNPROFESSIONAL BEHAVIOR- BOTH OF YOU.

WRITTEN CONTRACTS-Period, no exception. I own 2 businesses and although I often set things up via email, EVERYTHING IS FOLLOWED UP IN WRITING (on paper.)

Someone needs to file a civil suit to settle this.

You say you have the receipt of delivery. Then Send it to me via email and or fax it. I am tired of your lies. I am tired of this game. I have never yelled at you on the phone. You hide behind that lie because you know that you were wrong. This whole situation is stupid and pointless. So again I am giving you one last final chance to pick up the phone and come to a happy medium with me. I will call you tommorrow. I also will wait for your scan / fax of the delivery of the mysterious mailing receipt.

So a recap..

I will call you again tommorrow. If you do not answer I will leave a message and expect a call back tommorrow Too discuss a resolution.

You will send me a copy of this mysterious mailing receipt (which there is none because you never sent the C/D) but whatever. I will have my law enforcement friends run it for authinicity.

If You falter in any thing that I have just written. I am closing this case and moving on. If you really wanted to solve this case you would have had conversations with me but all you have done is avoid me because you know you are wrong.

I also wonder if you really wanted your money or at least a part of it why would you do all that you have done and expecvt to get a dime? Just curious. The one side of me says never.... the other side says ttry one last time to settle with this vendor, do your part and then let the chips fall where they may. Just Know I have tried and tried to contact you and solve this and you refuse.

Also if you put any more of my emails on line you will forfeit anything that I was considering giving you to make this go away (Not admitting any guilt whatsoever).

I don't want or need your prayers -- they're washed in dishonestly and hypocrisy. People who call upon God to absolve them of their wrongs toward others are hypocrites, plain and simple.

I just want my money.

The reason I refuse to speak with Mr. Tenner on the telephone is because he just yells and calls me names, threatens me, and regurgitates exactly the same dribble he posts right here on RipOffReport.com. Why would I want to use up my minutes just to be subjected to his abusive language and name calling?

I have delivery confirmation from the USPS that proves that Mr. Tenner received the final print CD at his post office box. Gee, maybe it was delivered after Mr. Tenner left Changing Faces Consulting (thnaks...lol) and closed down his PO box somewhere in the two days it took for the CD to reach above said PO box and well before Mr. Tenner told the collections agency that he no longer was with Changing Faces Consulting.

Mr. Tenner hired me to do the work; Mr. Tenner signed off on the work; Mr. Tenner received the CD; Mr. Tenner needs to pay for the work.

I just want my money.

I NEVER received any CD's from this vendor. I was taken out of context. I said before that i sent them back to her; meaning back via email since those were the only things i had from her and I had already paid another vendor to re do the whole project from scratch,

Update Update.......

I have also called this vendor to come to some happy medium several times. She will not answer the phone or return the call. If this is to be settled there will be a conversation and that's the end of that PERIOD.

Again she has not communicated with me except to blast me on this web site and get resolution. But I state for the record that I will not pay one dime until this stuff is off the internet and I get an apology for not getting my permission to put confidential conversations on the internet. Signing off for ever last response Barbara knows what she has to do to get some form of payment .

Every day that goes by and this is up here & I do not have a phone conversation with Barabara the $ amount goes down drasticaly. I mean this with all the fiber in my body you need to call me calm cool collective or you get nothing. I am better than this and I do not want to let this situation hold me hostage anymore. I will not spend any more negative energy on this situation.

So Today 12/22/08 it is $500
12/23/08 $250
12/24/08 $150
Merry Xmas 12/25/08 $ -0-

To GOD BE THE GLORY!

Mr. Tenner keeps insisting that:

A: He did not receive the final print files CD,

and,

B: That he sent back the final print files CD.

Since Mr. Tenner has put BOTH of these versions in writing, one can only wonder which is true. Since I checked with USPS to make sure the CD had been delivered (Surprise! Delivery confirmation is a beautiful thing!) and since I've never received the CD back, I can only assume that both of the above are lies and that Mr. Tenner did indeed receive the final print files CD (according to the USPS he did) and he is, once again, telling lies to try to get out of paying me.

All I want is my money.

I contacted Mr. Tenner a number of times regarding this invoice. He had signed off on the proofs, accepted the CD with the final files and had me upload his files to an online printer. He has also offered the books for sale on his website.

I told Mr. Tenner that if he wanted to speak with me, he could do it in writing. Since he calls me nice things like "f'ing b*tch" on the phone, I refuse to speak with him.

He has NEVER tried to make payment arrangements except for the $200 "offer" he made IF I take down the RipOffReport (not going to happen) AND if I apologize to him (for what? for wanting to get paid for the work I did?).

I've saved every one of Mr. Tenner's "reasonable" phone messages -- the ones with him calling me vicious names and making demands. They're even worse than his emails are and he wants to talk to me? I think not.

All I want is to be paid the agreed upon price for the work I did for Mr. Tenner. The initial price was $700, he told me he would pay me $1000 because the work was so good. All I want is my money.

Its to Bad that this person continues to write things that are not true. I hope that this person can move on and use their time more wisely on their personal life and redefining themself.

If anyone is reading this it's sad that I have tried to reconcile and even pay this vendor money. They wont even pick up the phone, so how can you come to a happy medium.

The shocking thing is another vendor redid the whole job from scratch and were paid in full.

This vendor is basically trying to smear me on the internet to get money she does not deserve in which I have tried to settle! (ANSWER THE PHONE). I have lost business that exceeds $700 (20) times over thimes 10. I ask that anyone who reads these smear campains and attempts to get money for a job that you were fired from to disregard and pray for this person.

I have tried to come to a happy medium with Barbara but she will not even answer the phone. So how can she even get any money from me!!! or come to a conclusion.

As I have said before I am willing to come to a happy medium. Barbara stated She wants all the money and I say Hell NO!

1. You didn't finish the job
2. You lied
3. You didn't even talk to me before you put me on blast on Ripp-off, I found out by chance browsing on the net.
4. You put my personal responses via email on the internet to embarass and strong arm me into paying you for a job you did not finish.
5.Explain how can you mediate when the otherparty will not even be reasonable.
6. If you really wanted to solve this issue you would not have went about it the way you have.

7. Like I said before I will not engage in this rediculous back and forth.

I am ashamed and embarass that I let you bait me to this level of bantering back and forth.

It won't happen again.

I apologize to all who know me and know who I really am and what I stand for. This event is very embarrassing for me, my family and my business. I hope to learn and grow from this business issue and become better and stronger because of this.

Should the vendor decide to black out and ortake my emails of this site I would certainly have a courageous conversation on how we can come to a happy medium. Till then, I wil not PAY 1 RED CENT!!

You may do all that you want. But it further lets me and the world know that all you are doing is not dealing with the issue and trying to hurt me, my family and my business.

I urge you to think about one thing.

Do you really think that you will get any money by doing this. All you are doing is reinforcing my intial statements and thoughts.

If a person really wanted to get this solved, it would be via phone, civil and professional.

Barbra I pray for you, I hope you have cooled off and will sit down and have a conversation with me in a civil matter and be ready to come to a happy medium and be fair and level headed.

Sorry things turned out this way. Good Luck..

Obviously Mr. Tenner is trying to hide from this debt by trying to change his business rather than pay the debt he owes me. He has shut down his old website and started several new ones. How clever is that? What's next? Will he change his name, too, since it's on this report?

I suppose this long-term failure to pay shouldn't surprise me when it's done by someone who is willing to write a book teaching people how to get out from having to pay child support. (Breed 'em but don't feed 'em.) I certainly wouldn't want his potty mouth talking to any of the kids in our family.

I wonder if Mr. Tenner's "story" has been verified or if it's just lies and crap that he knows will sell to the right organization if he gives just the right sales spiel. I also wonder if he really is a former cop? Usually it's once a cop, always a cop unless the cop gets fired. Hum. Food for thought; might be something to check out if you're thinking about hiring this guy to speak. Is he really the person he presents himself to be?

Since Mr. Tenner has changed his website he's all of a sudden re-employed by Changing Faces Consulting but it's now Closing the Achievement Gap (he also uses The Gold Boot Guy or The Child Support Guy). Remember, in one of the postings on this report, Mr. Tenner had told my collection's company that he was no longer with Changing Faces Consulting (thnaks [sic] -- lol) For someone who is "no longer" with Changing Faces Consulting, he sure does show up on their related websites and blogs a lot.

BTW: Mr. Tenner is NOT a member of the National Speaker's Association. Thanks to a speaker friend of mine who did some checking, I found out that Mr. Tenner had used their logo on his site WITHOUT PERMISSION. My friend, who actually DOES belong to the NSA, reported him. The NSA told him to remove their logo from his websites. Obviously, Mr. Tenner has no problem using other people's work or logos without paying for them. Not the kind of guy I'd want my kid's listening to.

All I want is to be paid for the work I've done.

The final print CD of Mr. Tenner's designs was sent to him on March 25, 2008 -- the day after he approved everything on the phone (I have phone records showing incoming calls from his phone number, however, he's denying this -- this is why I want everything in writing). However, since Mr. Tenner says -- in writing -- that he's no longer with Changing Faces Consulting and that he's closed down the PO box I sent his CD and certified letters to, maybe the new owner of Changing Faces Consulting or the new PO box holder has the CD. Besides, he also told everyone -- in writing -- that he had sent everything back to me. If this were true, he would have had to have received it in order to have sent it back.

I received the book job orders along with customer-supplied copy in a file named "Greek book And Action Guide Edits" (sic) from Mr. Tenner on March 2, 2008. The first proofs for the two books went out to Mr. Tenner starting March 10, 2008. The files were uploaded to Lulu.com as per Mr. Tenner's instructions on March 27, 2008. Since Mr. Tenner had to give me his password for me to upload the files to Lulu.com, and since Mr. Tenner had two weeks to check the books over, the files must have been fine since he had me upload them to the printer. Before sending him the finals, as per Lulu.com specs, he asked me to make a piece of artwork contained in the books an outline instead of a full black. He asked for a couple of copy changes but that was it. Those things were taken care of, he approved the changes, and the final was uploaded at that time.

The other final files such as the flyer, postcard, poster and envelope went out to Mr. Tenner for proofing on March 24, 2008 (within two days of my receiving his samples in the mail and after speaking to him on the phone). Changes, as per Mr. Tenner, were made at that time and the final proofs were received by him on March 24. The final proofs were signed off on March 24, 2008 and a final print file CD was sent to his PO box then. At that time, I'm pretty sure Mr. Tenner was still employed by Changing Faces Consulting, Inc. and that he still had the PO box the CD was sent to in that name. Since he knew he would be receiving the CD, there should have been no reason for him to not check the PO box.

In none of the emails I've received did he ever ask for a "three-week" proofing time. As a matter of fact, he jumped right on the proofs because he wanted to get everything printed so he could use the products for marketing. Since he had me upload his files and send him a CD of the files, the files must have been just fine -- at least that's what he stated on the phone. He was thrilled with the designs and couldn't wait to start using them.

Mr. Tenner was sent an invoice directly after the finals were uploaded and the CD was sent. The invoice was sent to all three of his email addresses. Two reminders asking for payment were sent after the invoice wasn't acknowledged and after no payment was received. After all of this and still not receiving payment, I called and left a message for Mr. Tenner on his phone. This was ignored. I waited some time before I sent him a "Notice of Intent to File" at all three of his email addresses. This too was ignored so I filed a report with RipOffReport.com and I filed suit. Mr. Tenner didn't bother to check his PO box (the one he either still has or doesn't have) and the certified letter was returned to me. I immediately re-sent the certified letter and notified Mr. Tenner to be expecting a certified letter in the mail. He ignored that one as well.

Mr. Tenner is now ignoring my "demand" of having everything in writing because he doesn't want it posted here. (I guess it's okay for him to "demand" but not for me to "demand.") He is once more leaving rambling nonsense messages on my voicemail repeating everything that he's said time and time and time again, ad nauseum. His latest voicemail of this morning (after he called me from someone else's phone number and I told him yet again that I required all communications from him to be in writing and after I hung up on him three times and finally turned off my phone) once again *demanded* that I take this report off RipOffReport.com and that he's not going to pay me the agreed upon payment that he owes me and that he won't pay me until the RipOffReport is removed. (I'm sure that even if it were to be removed I'd never see any payment anyway, so why should I bother?)

I live and work in the United States, not in some third world country, so I am not going to release the copyright on his designs until I receive payment in full for the work I've done. His offer of $200 (once again demanding this report be removed) is not acceptable -- especially since he's using and/or selling the designs I did for him. He offered me $700 the last time because a speaker friend of his told him that was the fair thing to do; of course, that also came with the same stipulation of having this report removed from RipOffReport.com. Once again, since it didn't compute the first nine or so times, it's not my call to have it removed. It's not my policy, it's RipOffReport.com's policy. Until I'm paid the $1000 I'm owed, in full, and after the check cleared, I would refuse to approve removal anyway.

As stated a number of times in this report, I will NOT speak to Mr. Tenner on the phone. If he's going to call me names like f'ing b*tch and psychotic, I want it in writing. I have nothing to say to him on the phone and all he's doing is beating a dead horse by saying the same thing over and over and over and over again. He's called me four times this morning from someone else's phone number. I'm not interested in his "reasonable" messages because they're not "reasonable" at all. His messages are the same "demands" he's made time and time again.

All I want is the money that's owed me.

As stated a number of times in this report, I will NOT speak to Mr. Tenner on the phone. If he's going to call me names like f'ing b*tch and psychotic, I want it in writing. I have nothing to say to him on the phone and all he's doing is beating a dead horse by saying the same thing over and over and over and over again. He's called me four times this morning from someone else's phone number. I'm not interested in his "reasonable" messages because they're not "reasonable" at all. His messages are the same "demands" he's made time and time again.

All I want is the money that's owed me.

As stated a number of times in this report, I will NOT speak to Mr. Tenner on the phone. If he's going to call me names like f'ing b*tch and psychotic, I want it in writing. I have nothing to say to him on the phone and all he's doing is beating a dead horse by saying the same thing over and over and over and over again. He's called me four times this morning from someone else's phone number. I'm not interested in his "reasonable" messages because they're not "reasonable" at all. His messages are the same "demands" he's made time and time again.

All I want is the money that's owed me.

As stated a number of times in this report, I will NOT speak to Mr. Tenner on the phone. If he's going to call me names like f'ing b*tch and psychotic, I want it in writing. I have nothing to say to him on the phone and all he's doing is beating a dead horse by saying the same thing over and over and over and over again. He's called me four times this morning from someone else's phone number. I'm not interested in his "reasonable" messages because they're not "reasonable" at all. His messages are the same "demands" he's made time and time again.

All I want is the money that's owed me.

Barabra Macatlin Solid Imaging from UTAH!

Let me say this is the last time I am responding to this banter and you can do what you think is right.


1. My Fiance's name is not Laura first of all.

2. I have never said you have not contacted me. As I stated I received a voicemail from you but I was not done proofing the work you did which still has flaws that needs to be fixed. I truly believe that if you truly wanted a resolution of this matter you would have wanted to fix what I thought were issues so that you could have been paid. You have done neither, you did not offer anything but empty promises.

3. As I have stated before in other responses "I am sorry for the negative talk that went back and forth. It was not professional and I am above that. I should not have let myself be pulled that low in behavior. Again I am truly sorry.

4. Also stated before after you did a draft of the work and we agreed that "I was Good for it sense I paid you promptly before" I was going to review the 180 plus pages and get back to you in 3 weeks or so.. While going to school full time at night, working a full time job and family duties.... etc... And you were o.k. with that.

5. Then without any response and or verbal and or written denial from me or aformation you put me on Ripp Off.

6. Not only did you lie and say you would take it off, you knowllingly lied because the last thing that you click to submit tells you it can't come off.

7. As far as copy right infringement. THERE is NONE! This book and action guide was re-done in a different format and information that I OWNED with a new Cover and Back because I did not what any similarities with the UNFINISHED product you produced. Thus There ARE NO Copy Right Infringements in any way shape or form. I checked and double checked with a multiple LAWYERS and they stated SHe HAS NO CLAIM WHAT SO EVER. But I have a claim and they urged me to go after you probono.

8. You have spent tireless energy slamming me on this site. DO you even think for a minute that you are going to get money from me AT ALL.

9. I tried to settle with you; but you and your Dept collector PSI have refused teh deal which I thought was a win win situation for the both of us. But really for you since you can't take the stuff off I still look like a donkey's back side and for all to see in the world of the web.

10. SO Barabra, please stop posting lies and things that have been talked about before. You do not scare me or intemidate me and will not provoke me to give you the money for a job that was not finished.

11. Remember!!!! I had to pay another professional to do the project from scratch. So why would I pay you and the project is already done ( By some eslse). You never finished the project and then you slammed me on this site with out ever talking to me as well.

12. I only denied you payment when you refused and lied that you would take this thing of Ripp Off Report.

13. Also You never sent me any thing on disk I have never gotten anything from you.

14. Like Today I have a check in my box to go present at a place near you. Since the check was sent out 1 week ago I know it is at my P.O. Box and I will pick it up.

So Barbara from Solid Imaging in Utah.

Are You tired of this game?
Are you tired of getting anywhere?
I thought that you would have me served and sue me?
What happened to that?
Did a Lawyer tell you that you are wasting your time?

Why spend hundreds of dollars on a situation that you put in peril by reacting so quick when there was no conversation?

YOU did this to YOU!

Not ME YOU!

If you would have done all the revisions and what not you would have gotten paid just like the professional who did the job from scratch.


So PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE AND MY COMPANY BRAND!

YOU will Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never get any money from me as long as this thing is on Rip off or any other sites or blogs...

You should be ashamed of acting like this.

Your KNEE jerk REACTION and LIES have Cost me Thousands of Dollars ..... So you need to leave me Alone.

Good Luck.

THIS IS A BOUGHT LESSON!

I hope it was worth it!

I not only sent emails to all three of Mr. Tenner's email address, I also left at least one voicemail and two certified letters for Mr. Tenner.

Mr. Tenner asked me to upload his book designs to Lulu.com. He gave me his account password and had me upload them. The next thing I know, they were for sale on Lulu.com. If they were so "wrong" then why was he selling them?

He asked me to send him a CD with his final files on it. I sent it to him the next day. He never said anything about waiting three more weeks; he only asked me to upload the final files to Lulu.com and to send him a CD with the final files so he could take them to the printer.

In other words, he signed off on everything. He decided on a 6x9 postcard as per the sample he sent me in the mail. He decided on a 9x11 envelope as per the sample he sent me in the mail. He decided on an 8.5x11 two-sided flyer like the one he had sent in the mail. He decided on the size for the poster and he asked me to switch out the photo I had used on it to a photo of his book. I did. He had other minor changes that were all taken care of before the books were uploaded and before the CD was sent.

I'm also pretty sure "Laura" who posted on this report is Mr. Tenner's fiance.

I saved the voicemails he's left me. There's no apology on any of them and he never told me he would pay me, either. He just called me names and threatened me with not paying me if I didn't take the RipOffReport.com report off. Well, duh. It CAN'T be taken off. It's not my policy, it's theirs. Take it up with them. Of course, I wouldn't approve removing it until my $1000 check clears.

If anyone would bother to actually read this entire report, they would see my return emails to Mr. Tenner. I clearly marked them and also noted them with the use of ( ). Of course, they would also see where he called me all kinds of nasty names, threatened to come out here to "placard the whole state" with notices of how worthless I am and hired someone -- knowingly -- to violate copyright laws. To attack my character because he owes me money is immature in the extreme. If anyone is owed an apology -- an money -- it's me.

The bottom line is, he owes me $1000.

According to this email my collections agency received, Mylai Tenner is no longer at Changing Faces Consulting ("Not Mylai Tenner's" email is highlighted with *****):

*******----- Original Message -----
From: M T
To: mail@psicollect.com ; solidimaging@ftitel.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:57 AM
Subject: RE: Solid Imaging Design $1,000.00 OWED

Mr. Tenner is no longer apart of this company. Please stoo sending email for hhim.
Thnak you *******

In his next email to my collections agency, he says (again, his email is highlighted with ***** and my comments are directly below this email):

*******----- Original Message -----
From: M T
To: mail@psicollect.com ; themylaigroup@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: LEGAL NOTICE: SOLID IMAGING $1,000.00 OWED

Joy Baird I called you today but you did not call me back.


This is a (1) time offer.

Sense your client has not redone what was needed to finish the project.
I paid another proffesional to completly re-do the project
I have not used your clients stuff and have sent all materials back to Solid Imaging.
So for time and stress to make this situation go AWAY. I will offer $200.
Stipulations

She apologizes
She takes off the emails ect.. from Rip-Off.com
She signs a agrrement to talk and or engage in negative talk about me or my business in Chat rooms web sites or anything the like.
That she never contacts me AGAIN!
These are my stipulations!

Anything less than that NO Deal. I have talked with a Lawyer and her case has NO merit and Solid Imaging would lose and I could counter sue as well Just an FYI

Have a Great Day!

Changing Faces Consulting Inc.******

MY NOTES:

If Mylai Tenner is no longer with Changing Faces Consulting, Inc. then why is he offering me a "deal?" Why has he also called me and left a whining and threatening five minute voicemail? I've told him a number of times now that I will not speak to him on the phone and that I want everything in writing.

Apologize for what??? For wanting the money I'm owed for designing his books, his envelopes, his posters and his postcards?

He knows good and well that RipOffReport won't remove reports and there's nothing I can do about it. Too bad. The funny thing is, I'm just posting his very own words. I haven't said a bad thing about him; all I've done is post his words and my comments.

Mylai Tenner hasn't sent anything back to me and it would be useless to me as it was designed for him. If he has someone else re-doing everything then why was he selling the two books on Lulu.com and why did he have me upload everything else to the printer and why did he have me send him a CD with the final print files to him to take to his local printer? Also, if he has others "re-doing" my work, they're in direct violation of copyright laws because I haven't been paid for the work I did for him.

I'm not signing anything.

How about if he has his lawyer call my lawyer? I don't have to lie about about having an attorney. I have a great case against Tenner for not only non-payment but copyright violations as well.

The deal was $1000. $200 is not only ridiculous for three weeks worth of work, it shows just what type of person this guy is. All I want is my $1000 for the work I did.

Mylai Tenner is also writing another one of his misspelled, illiterate missives to teach guys how to get out of paying child support. That's rich. Breed 'em but don't feed 'em. I can't imagine that anyone would want this guy speaking to their children. It's obvious from his emails that he's foul-mouthed, rude and threatening -- and that's over and above the fact that he STILL hasn't paid me for the work I did for him back in March 2008.

All I want is my money.

Firstly, I want to apologize to all for my comments that were put on here by Barbara Jean Mcactlin of Utah Owner of Solid Imaging. i also want to apoloigize for the things that have said to her in our PRIVATE emails that were made public without my consent.

1. I hired her to do some layout stuff for a brochure.
2. She did a great job on the brochure and was paid promptly!
3. She did anoother lay out job for me for a book and other things envelope, post card, poster etc. She did the work I wanted to make sure that I was comfortable with everything.

Within that we haggled over print size etc small things but for the most part things went good. During all the work that she did for me we talked daily 3 to four times getting things the way I wanted.

During this time I was working full time and going to school at night etc.. family duties dog, cats whatever.

4. When she sent me the purposed final proof. I said give me at least three weeks or more to go through the 170 pages of editing and making sure that it was good to go before I paid her.

Hence there was no contract with this project because since I paid promptly before, she stated "I know that you are good for it."

5. Some days and maybe a few weeks go by and during that time, I attest she left me a message via voice mail saying "are you done proofing I want to wrap this job up."
She said she sent me emails but I never got them. I believe at the time my virtual assistant erased them by accident (who I have since terminated) and I never saw them.

6. Then very recent after that I put my name into google and I am on Ripp Off report.

MY ISSUES:

1. At NO Time did I have a conversation with Barbara Jean Macatlin from Utah and the Firm of Solid Imaging did I ever say to her that i was not paying her. Heck I had just got done proofing the material in which I had some questions and concerns about some things that need to be changed etc... NO BIG DEAL
But we never talked and I never refused to pay. (That came only after her initial LIE that she would take it off and I said that I would pay her, but She already knew that she couldn't take it off it's the last statement you read before you submit)

Read ( Submit your Ripoff Report By posting this report/rebuttal, I attest this report is valid. I am giving Ripoff Report irrevocable rights to post it on this web site. I acknowledge that once I post my report, it will not be removed, even at my request. Of course, I can always update my report to reflect new developments by clicking on UPDATE. Further, I agree that by posting this report/rebuttal that the State of Arizona has exclusive jurisdiction over any disputes arising out of this posting.)

Then I find myself on this Rip Off Report. She KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOING! ALL ALONG.

2. That is not right or professional. I never got a demand for payment letter in the mail prior to this.

3. However I immediately called her in which she ducked my calls for hours and started getting nasty. I admit I was talking crap as well.

4. We then came to a resolution that she would take this Off; Rip Off report and then i would pay her from some engagements that were coming up.

5. Unbeknownst to her I had researched rip off report and it states once you submit it its on there for good. My Issue is she knew that when she agreed to take it off.

6. Then all I got was " I sent an email to them and they have not gotten back to me." That's what I kept getting from her. No action as promised.

7. While this is going on and all the bantering back and forth with her and cussing (which I am sorry for) See my emails that she plastered on this site. My engagements are seeing this on the internet and they said "Before we bring you in and pay youthis needs to be resolved." ( I lost $8000) she never took it down because she knew she could'nt and I got angry and pissed and went ghetto on her which was not professional and wrong.
Barbra I do apoligize.

But.

This is bad business and is not FAIR!
she has bashed me on here and not told the truth. Now the question is should I reconcile and pay her.
NO!

I got another provider to redo the job in a whole different manner and he was paid in FULL!! before the Job Started.

1. I sent the work back to her and stated that I will not be using this and you can do what you want with the work. You do no t deserve to get paid.

2. The job is not finished and you had the audacity to LIE about taking it off and then come at me both barrels a blazing WHEN I never told you that I was not paying you for the work I was proofing.

3. There are NO copyright Infringements AT ALL that is eroneous!
4. My P.O. Box is way across town from where I live. GAS prices etc.. When I talked to places and they say the check goes in the mail I wait 5 days and then I go and pick it up at the P.O. Box.

Is there anyone OUT THERE that understands my CASE?
She has made a mockery of me, my name and my business.
Barbara Maclatin Solid Imaging from Utah YOU ARE WRONG!
Furthermore she has a debt collector calling me and emailing me.

I WANT THE WORLD AND ALL WHO READ THIS TO SUNDERSTAND.

1. If I stated to her that I was not going to pay her after I proofed the work (which would mean we talked after I proofed) (We never Did), then I have no leg to stand on and I deserve all she's doing. But that is not the case and this lady is riding me dirty and I have NO idea why!

I WILL NOT PAY HER ONE RED CENT! EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER. IT WILL BE OVER MY DEAD BODY AND SOME.


I will state if she takes all this stuff off and apologizes i will settle with her and go about my business. But until then I there's 3 things that I GOT to do in this life.
1. Stay Black
2. Pay Taxes
3. DIE
and not even in that order.

Its unfortunate she jumped the gun but maybe because of that she should not get paid a dime and learn a lesson on patience, due diligence and the art of communication 101.
if anyone has solutions.

1-651-276-7572

Submit your Ripoff Report By posting this report/rebuttal, I attest this report is valid. I am giving Ripoff Report irrevocable rights to post it on this web site. I acknowledge that once I post my report, it will not be removed, even at my request. Of course, I can always update my report to reflect new developments by clicking on UPDATE. Further, I agree that by posting this report/rebuttal that the State of Arizona has exclusive jurisdiction over any disputes arising out of this posting.

I was meeting with Mr. Tenner this afternoon when a call was made to Barbara Jean of Solidiminaging in Utah.

Mr. Tenner was unable to reach Barbara Jean, so therefore left a message for her.

First, in the message Mr. Tenner apologized for any comment he had made that may have been hurtful and/or harmful to BarbaraJean or her business.

Second, he asked that she return his call so that the two of them could come to an agreed upon resolution regarding the issues mentioned on this website. He mentioned that he would like to get this matter taken care of so he could move forward with his business.

He asked that Barbara Jean return his call so issues could be discussed in a calm and professional manner.

Professionally, I have found my dealings with Mr. Tenner to be positive, professional, and satisfying. He has completed what was expected of him in a timely fashion, and has done an excellent job. As a Motivational Speaker, Mr. Tenner has made a diffence in the outlooks of many children who had no hope. He has given advice and direction in a way that the children relate to and respect.

I would highly recommend Mr. Tenner for any future speaking opportunities.

As a matter of fact, I am more than surprised that his name is even on this website in such a negative way. Also, it appears as if only one side of the story is being told here.

Firstly, I want to apologize to all for my comments that were put on here by Barbara Jean Mcatlin of utahOwner of Solid Imaging.

1. I hired her to do some layout stuff for a brochure.

2. She di a great job on the brochure and was paid promptly

3. She did a lay out job for me for a book and other things envelope, post card, poster etc. She did the work I wanted to make sure that i was comfortable with everything.

Within that we haggled over print size etc small things but for the most part things went good. During all the work that she did for me we talked daily 3 to four times getting things the way I wanted.

During this time I was working full time and going to school at night etc.. family duties dog, cats whatever.

4. When she sent me the purposed final proof. I said give me at least three weeks or more to go through the 170 pages of editing and making sure that it was good to gobefore I paid her.

Hence there was no contract with this project because since I paid promptly before, she stated " I know that you are good for it."

5. Some days and maybe a few weeks go by and during that time, I attest she left me a message via voice mail saying "are you done proofing I want to wrap this job up."

She said she sent me emails but I never got them. I believe at the time my virtual assistant erased them by accident (who I have since terminated) and I never saw them.

6.Then very recent after that I put my name into google and I am on Ripp Off report.

MY ISSUES:

1. At NO Time did I have a conversation with Barbara Jean Macatlin from Utah and the Firm Solid Imaging did I ever say to her that i was not paying her. Heck I had just got done proofing the material inwhich I had some questions and concerns about some things that need to be changed etc... NO BIG DEAL

But we never talked and I never refused to pay. Then I find myself on this Ripp Off Report.

2. That is not right or professional. I never got a demand for payment letter in the mail prior to this.

3. However I immediately called her in which she ducked my calls for hours and started getting nasty. I admit I was talking crap as well.

4. We then came to a resoultion that she would take this Off Ripp Off report and then i would pay her from some engagments that were coming up.

5.Unbeknownst to her I had researched rip off report and it states once you submit it its on there for good. My Issue is she knew that when she agreeded to take it off.

6. Then all I got was " I sent an email to them and they have not gotten back to me." That's what I kept getting from her. No action as promised.

7. While this is going on and all the bantering back and forth with her and cussing (which I am sorry for) See my emails that she plastered on this site. My engagements are seeing this on the internet and they said "Before we bring you in and pay youthis needs to be resolved." ( I lost $8000) she never took it down because she knew she could'nt and I got angry and pissed and went ghetto on her which was not professional and wrong. Barbars I do apoligize.

But.

This is bad business and is not FAIR!

she has bashed me on here and not told the truth. Now the question is should I reconcile and pay her.

NO!

I got another provider to redo the job in a whole different manner and he was paid in FULL!! before the Job Started.

1. I sent the work back to her and stated that I wil not be using this and you can do what you want with the work. You do no t deserve to get paid.

2. The job is not finished and you had the audacity to LIE about taking it off and then come at me both barrels a blazing WHEN I never told you that I was not paying you for the work I was proofing.

3. There are NO copyright Infringements AT ALL that is eroneous!

4. My P.O. Box is way across town from where I live. GAS prices etc.. When I talked to places and they say the check goes in the mail I wait 5 days and then I go and pick it up at the P.O. Box.

Is there anyone OUT THERE that understands my CASE?

She has made a mockery of me, my name and my business.

Barbara maclatin Solid Imaging from Utah YOU ARE WRONG!

Furthermore she has a debt collector calling me and emailing me.

I WANT THE WORLD AND ALL WHO READ THIS TO SUNDERSTAND.

1. If I stated to her that I was not going to pay her after I proofed the work, then i have no leg to stand on and I deserve all she's doing. But that is not the case and this lady is riding me dirty and I have know idea why!

I WILL NOT PAY HER ONE RED CENT! EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER. IT WILL BE OVER MY DEAD BODY AND SOME.

I will state if she takes all this stuff off and apologizes i will settle with her and go about my business. But until then I there's 3 things that I GOT to do in this life.
1. Stay Black
2. Pay Taxes
3. DIE

and not even in that order.

Its unfortunate she jumped teh gun but maybe becaus eof that she should not get paid a dime and learn a lesson on patience, due dilegence and the art of communication 101.

if anyone has solutions...

According to Mr. Tenner, the quality of his books was so poor that he had to have them redone by another designer. If that's the case, why is he selling them on his personal website (http://www.mylaitenner.com/store/index.php?main_page=products_new&zenid=e826cdf926d8f3eee6f8ca3d634e9dfb). This is a blatant violation of US copyright laws and is being reported now.

As Mr. Tenner has chosen to ignore the certified letters that have been sent to him, I have no choice but to refile this case (at an additional cost to Mr. Tenner of approximately $245) and have it served to him by the Hennepin County Sheriff's Dept. ($100 minimum charge that will also be passed on to Mr. Tenner). These papers will be served at an address belonging to Doris Tenner who is believed to be Mr. Tenner's mother. This debt will also be turned over to a credit reporting agency and Mr. Tenner will be responsible for all fees connected to that action.

As Mr. Tenner has chosen to ignore the certified letters that have been sent to him, I have no choice but to refile this case (at an additional cost to Mr. Tenner of approximately $245) and have it served to him by the Hennepin County Sheriff's Dept. ($100 minimum charge that will also be passed on to Mr. Tenner). These papers will be served at an address belonging to Doris Tenner who is believed to be Mr. Tenner's mother. This debt will also be turned over to a credit reporting agency and Mr. Tenner will be responsible for all fees connected to that action.

As Mr. Tenner has chosen to ignore the certified letters that have been sent to him, I have no choice but to refile this case (at an additional cost to Mr. Tenner of approximately $245) and have it served to him by the Hennepin County Sheriff's Dept. ($100 minimum charge that will also be passed on to Mr. Tenner). These papers will be served at an address belonging to Doris Tenner who is believed to be Mr. Tenner's mother. This debt will also be turned over to a credit reporting agency and Mr. Tenner will be responsible for all fees connected to that action.

(Best read from the bottom up. Includes my email in response to his. My comments again in ( ). Once again, I've edited the cuss works as they're against RipOffReport's TOS.).

From: themylaigroup@gmail.com
Subject: Re: NICE !!!
Date: June 10, 2008 8:25:41 AM MDT
To: solidimaging@ftitel.net

there are know copyright laws violated at All Every Thing will Be Totaly Different with a NEW AND BETTER FLAVOR. No you did not THE FIRST F*CKING THING IS THAT YOU NEVER SHOULD HAVE TAKEN YOUR HAPPY JACK A*S AND PUT THAT ON THERE. I TRULY BELIEF BECAUSE OF MY RACE YOU DECIDED NOT TO GIVE ME THE SAME COURTESY AS YOU DO YOUR WHITE COUNTERPARTS. YOU ARE SICK AND WANT TO CONTROL THE SITUATION. YOU STILL DON'T GET IT.. I NEVER ONCE SINCE I SAID LET ME REVEIW THE PROOFS THAT YOU WOULD NOT GET PAID AND OR THAT I WAS NOT GOING TO PAY YOU.. YOU ASSUMED AND WENT FOR BROKE AND THAT IS FINE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT GETTING PAID WHAT SO EVER. YOURE MEERE THREATS OF SUIT DO NOT SCARE ME... COME TO MN AND SUE ME THEN..... YOU GOT ALL THE BIG MONEY........JUST NOTE YOU ARE BEING COUNTER SUED FOR DEFAMATION AND SLANDER AND THAT'S THAT. OH YEA LET ME CONTACT ALL THE FREELANCE VENDOR COMPANIES AND ALERT THEM TO INFORM ALL THERE CLIENTS IN THEIR DATA BASE ABOUT YOUR BULLSH*T. THEY NEED TO PROTECT THEIR CLIENTS AND THEIR REPUTATION ABOUT SHISTEY A*S JUMPY VENDORS LIKE YOU. SO YOU LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU WANT TO STOP........ I HAVE MY WHOLE LIFE TO KEEP YOUR A*S ON BLAST....YOU STARTED THIS SH*T BY LYING, NOT KEEPING YOUR WORD AND MAKING KNEE JERK REACTIONS WITHOUT DEFENANT RESPONSES FROM ME REFUSING TO PAY YOU.. SO NOW SINCE YOU MAKE SO MANY KNEE JERK REACTIONS F*CK YOU AND KNEE JERK THAT SH*T OFF RIPP OFF AND MAYBE I MIGHT PAY YOUR TIRED A*S.. NO TAKE OFF RIPP OFF/ YOU GET NO MONEY EVER !!!!!!!!

GO TELL MAMA THAT!!!!

(Race has nothing to do with it. I'm of mixed race. So what? Unlike the personal slams I've endured such as the ones above and below, I've never said anything defaming in my attempt to collect on this debt and I've certainly never called him the n-word like he called himself in a previous update to this RipOffReport.)

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Barbara McAtlin wrote:
I sent three emails to each of your three email addresses AND called you
AND spoke to you at least twice about payment. You ignored it. I made a
good faith attempt to have the RipOffReport removed and you were copied on
the email I sent them. Personal slams on me are immature.

The "vendor" you've chosen is violating copyright laws and now that I have
it in writing that you're knowingly violating copyright laws, my case is
sewed up tight. Thanks.



From: themylaigroup@gmail.com
Subject: NICE !!!
Date: June 10, 2008 8:05:19 AM MDT
To: solidimaging@ftitel.net

> I have a vendor already redoing the botched job you did. So don't worry
> your stuff will never be used. And I am paying them with the money I
> would
> have paid you if you would have lived up to your side of the bargain /
> agreement. Is that illiterate enough for you? You just won't admit it.
> You jumped the gun while you did not make good faith attempts to contact
> me. 1 message and one email (so you say) and you blast me on the
> internet?
> THAT IS BULLSH*T!! / So maybe I 'll keep my commits to myself. Since
> you
> post evrything on the web minus your side of this conversation. By the
> way
> You never served me one thing and I have not refused any mail from you so
> again you are lying.

(If he's read this RipOffReport he knows that he's being sued and he knows the date as well as the time and amount. I've already cleared this with the judge as being a legal process serve since Mr. Tenner has acknowledged it via email. August 7th, 10:00 a.m. San Juan County Court. $1245 which includes fees. I've also posted my return emails to Mr. Tenner but I guess he's not read them.)
>
>
>
> 1. I am NOT Happy with your work.
> 2. I have hired another vendor paid in full $850 to redo everything.
> 3. I will not use the SH*T you put together.
> 4. Stop posting stuff on the internet about me and the situation Your a
> big bad B*TCH TALK TO ME!!
> 5. It did not work out and leave it at that.
> 6. Since it did not work YOU GET NO MONEY! THAT's BUSINESS!!!
> 7. AGAIN I am SORRY it did not work out but I can not work with someone
> like you with these tatics and the unperfessionalism, the personal
> attacks,
> the slimy internet bullsh*t that is not called for but oh well.

(Again, if he's so "unhappy" with my work, why did he have me upload it to the printer for printing AND speak to me about doing all of his other design work? If the design is so horrible, why is he selling both of the books on Lulu.com in direct violation of US copyright laws? It must not have been that awful if he's willing to charge between $17 and $30 for them.)
>
> The reason why my entry was so choppy was because I was so PI*SED OFF at
> you
> I could not put what was in my mind down on the computer right. So You
> have
> a great Non alcoholic life with your rugger's dog's , pigs, etc.... you
> need it. No wonder your husband lives in Florida or arizona He can't
> stand
> your a*s>
>

--
The Mylai Group LLC.
1-651-276-7572

www.Greekleadership.blogspot.com
www.blogtalkradio.com/The_Gold_Boot_Guy

Myspace.com/TheGoldBootGuy


(Yes, I have 13 years clean and sober. How cool is that? I also take in abused and abandoned dogs. I have another one on the way. She's 12 and recovering from heartworm. The dogs live a good life here with lots of room to run and play. I regularly volunteer with the humane society and have found good homes for quite a few deserving dogs. They see the vet regularly and get to go a lot of different places. Since this is a farm, I have two pigs. We're expecting piglets in late August. Not that it matters to the general population but due to the horrid safety conditions and many deaths (12 in the last two years) in the mining industry here in Utah, my husband found a great job that he loves in Arizona where safety is number one and mine-related deaths and serious injuries are rare (one in the last two years and that was due to a heart-attack). He's moving up quickly and has just been promoted for a third time in two years. I'm extremely proud of him. I'd rather have him in Arizona and alive than in Utah and dead.)

(Best read from the bottom up. Includes my email in response to his. My comments again in ( ). Once again, I've edited the cuss works as they're against RipOffReport's TOS.).

From: themylaigroup@gmail.com
Subject: Re: NICE !!!
Date: June 10, 2008 8:25:41 AM MDT
To: solidimaging@ftitel.net

there are know copyright laws violated at All Every Thing will Be Totaly Different with a NEW AND BETTER FLAVOR. No you did not THE FIRST F*CKING THING IS THAT YOU NEVER SHOULD HAVE TAKEN YOUR HAPPY JACK A*S AND PUT THAT ON THERE. I TRULY BELIEF BECAUSE OF MY RACE YOU DECIDED NOT TO GIVE ME THE SAME COURTESY AS YOU DO YOUR WHITE COUNTERPARTS. YOU ARE SICK AND WANT TO CONTROL THE SITUATION. YOU STILL DON'T GET IT.. I NEVER ONCE SINCE I SAID LET ME REVEIW THE PROOFS THAT YOU WOULD NOT GET PAID AND OR THAT I WAS NOT GOING TO PAY YOU.. YOU ASSUMED AND WENT FOR BROKE AND THAT IS FINE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT GETTING PAID WHAT SO EVER. YOURE MEERE THREATS OF SUIT DO NOT SCARE ME... COME TO MN AND SUE ME THEN..... YOU GOT ALL THE BIG MONEY........JUST NOTE YOU ARE BEING COUNTER SUED FOR DEFAMATION AND SLANDER AND THAT'S THAT. OH YEA LET ME CONTACT ALL THE FREELANCE VENDOR COMPANIES AND ALERT THEM TO INFORM ALL THERE CLIENTS IN THEIR DATA BASE ABOUT YOUR BULLSH*T. THEY NEED TO PROTECT THEIR CLIENTS AND THEIR REPUTATION ABOUT SHISTEY A*S JUMPY VENDORS LIKE YOU. SO YOU LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU WANT TO STOP........ I HAVE MY WHOLE LIFE TO KEEP YOUR A*S ON BLAST....YOU STARTED THIS SH*T BY LYING, NOT KEEPING YOUR WORD AND MAKING KNEE JERK REACTIONS WITHOUT DEFENANT RESPONSES FROM ME REFUSING TO PAY YOU.. SO NOW SINCE YOU MAKE SO MANY KNEE JERK REACTIONS F*CK YOU AND KNEE JERK THAT SH*T OFF RIPP OFF AND MAYBE I MIGHT PAY YOUR TIRED A*S.. NO TAKE OFF RIPP OFF/ YOU GET NO MONEY EVER !!!!!!!!

GO TELL MAMA THAT!!!!

(Race has nothing to do with it. I'm of mixed race. So what? Unlike the personal slams I've endured such as the ones above and below, I've never said anything defaming in my attempt to collect on this debt and I've certainly never called him the n-word like he called himself in a previous update to this RipOffReport.)

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Barbara McAtlin wrote:
I sent three emails to each of your three email addresses AND called you
AND spoke to you at least twice about payment. You ignored it. I made a
good faith attempt to have the RipOffReport removed and you were copied on
the email I sent them. Personal slams on me are immature.

The "vendor" you've chosen is violating copyright laws and now that I have
it in writing that you're knowingly violating copyright laws, my case is
sewed up tight. Thanks.



From: themylaigroup@gmail.com
Subject: NICE !!!
Date: June 10, 2008 8:05:19 AM MDT
To: solidimaging@ftitel.net

> I have a vendor already redoing the botched job you did. So don't worry
> your stuff will never be used. And I am paying them with the money I
> would
> have paid you if you would have lived up to your side of the bargain /
> agreement. Is that illiterate enough for you? You just won't admit it.
> You jumped the gun while you did not make good faith attempts to contact
> me. 1 message and one email (so you say) and you blast me on the
> internet?
> THAT IS BULLSH*T!! / So maybe I 'll keep my commits to myself. Since
> you
> post evrything on the web minus your side of this conversation. By the
> way
> You never served me one thing and I have not refused any mail from you so
> again you are lying.

(If he's read this RipOffReport he knows that he's being sued and he knows the date as well as the time and amount. I've already cleared this with the judge as being a legal process serve since Mr. Tenner has acknowledged it via email. August 7th, 10:00 a.m. San Juan County Court. $1245 which includes fees. I've also posted my return emails to Mr. Tenner but I guess he's not read them.)
>
>
>
> 1. I am NOT Happy with your work.
> 2. I have hired another vendor paid in full $850 to redo everything.
> 3. I will not use the SH*T you put together.
> 4. Stop posting stuff on the internet about me and the situation Your a
> big bad B*TCH TALK TO ME!!
> 5. It did not work out and leave it at that.
> 6. Since it did not work YOU GET NO MONEY! THAT's BUSINESS!!!
> 7. AGAIN I am SORRY it did not work out but I can not work with someone
> like you with these tatics and the unperfessionalism, the personal
> attacks,
> the slimy internet bullsh*t that is not called for but oh well.

(Again, if he's so "unhappy" with my work, why did he have me upload it to the printer for printing AND speak to me about doing all of his other design work? If the design is so horrible, why is he selling both of the books on Lulu.com in direct violation of US copyright laws? It must not have been that awful if he's willing to charge between $17 and $30 for them.)
>
> The reason why my entry was so choppy was because I was so PI*SED OFF at
> you
> I could not put what was in my mind down on the computer right. So You
> have
> a great Non alcoholic life with your rugger's dog's , pigs, etc.... you
> need it. No wonder your husband lives in Florida or arizona He can't
> stand
> your a*s>
>

--
The Mylai Group LLC.
1-651-276-7572

www.Greekleadership.blogspot.com
www.blogtalkradio.com/The_Gold_Boot_Guy

Myspace.com/TheGoldBootGuy


(Yes, I have 13 years clean and sober. How cool is that? I also take in abused and abandoned dogs. I have another one on the way. She's 12 and recovering from heartworm. The dogs live a good life here with lots of room to run and play. I regularly volunteer with the humane society and have found good homes for quite a few deserving dogs. They see the vet regularly and get to go a lot of different places. Since this is a farm, I have two pigs. We're expecting piglets in late August. Not that it matters to the general population but due to the horrid safety conditions and many deaths (12 in the last two years) in the mining industry here in Utah, my husband found a great job that he loves in Arizona where safety is number one and mine-related deaths and serious injuries are rare (one in the last two years and that was due to a heart-attack). He's moving up quickly and has just been promoted for a third time in two years. I'm extremely proud of him. I'd rather have him in Arizona and alive than in Utah and dead.)

(Best read from the bottom up. Includes my email in response to his. My comments again in ( ). Once again, I've edited the cuss works as they're against RipOffReport's TOS.).

From: themylaigroup@gmail.com
Subject: Re: NICE !!!
Date: June 10, 2008 8:25:41 AM MDT
To: solidimaging@ftitel.net

there are know copyright laws violated at All Every Thing will Be Totaly Different with a NEW AND BETTER FLAVOR. No you did not THE FIRST F*CKING THING IS THAT YOU NEVER SHOULD HAVE TAKEN YOUR HAPPY JACK A*S AND PUT THAT ON THERE. I TRULY BELIEF BECAUSE OF MY RACE YOU DECIDED NOT TO GIVE ME THE SAME COURTESY AS YOU DO YOUR WHITE COUNTERPARTS. YOU ARE SICK AND WANT TO CONTROL THE SITUATION. YOU STILL DON'T GET IT.. I NEVER ONCE SINCE I SAID LET ME REVEIW THE PROOFS THAT YOU WOULD NOT GET PAID AND OR THAT I WAS NOT GOING TO PAY YOU.. YOU ASSUMED AND WENT FOR BROKE AND THAT IS FINE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT GETTING PAID WHAT SO EVER. YOURE MEERE THREATS OF SUIT DO NOT SCARE ME... COME TO MN AND SUE ME THEN..... YOU GOT ALL THE BIG MONEY........JUST NOTE YOU ARE BEING COUNTER SUED FOR DEFAMATION AND SLANDER AND THAT'S THAT. OH YEA LET ME CONTACT ALL THE FREELANCE VENDOR COMPANIES AND ALERT THEM TO INFORM ALL THERE CLIENTS IN THEIR DATA BASE ABOUT YOUR BULLSH*T. THEY NEED TO PROTECT THEIR CLIENTS AND THEIR REPUTATION ABOUT SHISTEY A*S JUMPY VENDORS LIKE YOU. SO YOU LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU WANT TO STOP........ I HAVE MY WHOLE LIFE TO KEEP YOUR A*S ON BLAST....YOU STARTED THIS SH*T BY LYING, NOT KEEPING YOUR WORD AND MAKING KNEE JERK REACTIONS WITHOUT DEFENANT RESPONSES FROM ME REFUSING TO PAY YOU.. SO NOW SINCE YOU MAKE SO MANY KNEE JERK REACTIONS F*CK YOU AND KNEE JERK THAT SH*T OFF RIPP OFF AND MAYBE I MIGHT PAY YOUR TIRED A*S.. NO TAKE OFF RIPP OFF/ YOU GET NO MONEY EVER !!!!!!!!

GO TELL MAMA THAT!!!!

(Race has nothing to do with it. I'm of mixed race. So what? Unlike the personal slams I've endured such as the ones above and below, I've never said anything defaming in my attempt to collect on this debt and I've certainly never called him the n-word like he called himself in a previous update to this RipOffReport.)

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Barbara McAtlin wrote:
I sent three emails to each of your three email addresses AND called you
AND spoke to you at least twice about payment. You ignored it. I made a
good faith attempt to have the RipOffReport removed and you were copied on
the email I sent them. Personal slams on me are immature.

The "vendor" you've chosen is violating copyright laws and now that I have
it in writing that you're knowingly violating copyright laws, my case is
sewed up tight. Thanks.



From: themylaigroup@gmail.com
Subject: NICE !!!
Date: June 10, 2008 8:05:19 AM MDT
To: solidimaging@ftitel.net

> I have a vendor already redoing the botched job you did. So don't worry
> your stuff will never be used. And I am paying them with the money I
> would
> have paid you if you would have lived up to your side of the bargain /
> agreement. Is that illiterate enough for you? You just won't admit it.
> You jumped the gun while you did not make good faith attempts to contact
> me. 1 message and one email (so you say) and you blast me on the
> internet?
> THAT IS BULLSH*T!! / So maybe I 'll keep my commits to myself. Since
> you
> post evrything on the web minus your side of this conversation. By the
> way
> You never served me one thing and I have not refused any mail from you so
> again you are lying.

(If he's read this RipOffReport he knows that he's being sued and he knows the date as well as the time and amount. I've already cleared this with the judge as being a legal process serve since Mr. Tenner has acknowledged it via email. August 7th, 10:00 a.m. San Juan County Court. $1245 which includes fees. I've also posted my return emails to Mr. Tenner but I guess he's not read them.)
>
>
>
> 1. I am NOT Happy with your work.
> 2. I have hired another vendor paid in full $850 to redo everything.
> 3. I will not use the SH*T you put together.
> 4. Stop posting stuff on the internet about me and the situation Your a
> big bad B*TCH TALK TO ME!!
> 5. It did not work out and leave it at that.
> 6. Since it did not work YOU GET NO MONEY! THAT's BUSINESS!!!
> 7. AGAIN I am SORRY it did not work out but I can not work with someone
> like you with these tatics and the unperfessionalism, the personal
> attacks,
> the slimy internet bullsh*t that is not called for but oh well.

(Again, if he's so "unhappy" with my work, why did he have me upload it to the printer for printing AND speak to me about doing all of his other design work? If the design is so horrible, why is he selling both of the books on Lulu.com in direct violation of US copyright laws? It must not have been that awful if he's willing to charge between $17 and $30 for them.)
>
> The reason why my entry was so choppy was because I was so PI*SED OFF at
> you
> I could not put what was in my mind down on the computer right. So You
> have
> a great Non alcoholic life with your rugger's dog's , pigs, etc.... you
> need it. No wonder your husband lives in Florida or arizona He can't
> stand
> your a*s>
>

--
The Mylai Group LLC.
1-651-276-7572

www.Greekleadership.blogspot.com
www.blogtalkradio.com/The_Gold_Boot_Guy

Myspace.com/TheGoldBootGuy


(Yes, I have 13 years clean and sober. How cool is that? I also take in abused and abandoned dogs. I have another one on the way. She's 12 and recovering from heartworm. The dogs live a good life here with lots of room to run and play. I regularly volunteer with the humane society and have found good homes for quite a few deserving dogs. They see the vet regularly and get to go a lot of different places. Since this is a farm, I have two pigs. We're expecting piglets in late August. Not that it matters to the general population but due to the horrid safety conditions and many deaths (12 in the last two years) in the mining industry here in Utah, my husband found a great job that he loves in Arizona where safety is number one and mine-related deaths and serious injuries are rare (one in the last two years and that was due to a heart-attack). He's moving up quickly and has just been promoted for a third time in two years. I'm extremely proud of him. I'd rather have him in Arizona and alive than in Utah and dead.)

(Best read from the bottom up. Includes my email in response to his. My comments again in ( ). Once again, I've edited the cuss works as they're against RipOffReport's TOS.).

From: themylaigroup@gmail.com
Subject: Re: NICE !!!
Date: June 10, 2008 8:25:41 AM MDT
To: solidimaging@ftitel.net

there are know copyright laws violated at All Every Thing will Be Totaly Different with a NEW AND BETTER FLAVOR. No you did not THE FIRST F*CKING THING IS THAT YOU NEVER SHOULD HAVE TAKEN YOUR HAPPY JACK A*S AND PUT THAT ON THERE. I TRULY BELIEF BECAUSE OF MY RACE YOU DECIDED NOT TO GIVE ME THE SAME COURTESY AS YOU DO YOUR WHITE COUNTERPARTS. YOU ARE SICK AND WANT TO CONTROL THE SITUATION. YOU STILL DON'T GET IT.. I NEVER ONCE SINCE I SAID LET ME REVEIW THE PROOFS THAT YOU WOULD NOT GET PAID AND OR THAT I WAS NOT GOING TO PAY YOU.. YOU ASSUMED AND WENT FOR BROKE AND THAT IS FINE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT GETTING PAID WHAT SO EVER. YOURE MEERE THREATS OF SUIT DO NOT SCARE ME... COME TO MN AND SUE ME THEN..... YOU GOT ALL THE BIG MONEY........JUST NOTE YOU ARE BEING COUNTER SUED FOR DEFAMATION AND SLANDER AND THAT'S THAT. OH YEA LET ME CONTACT ALL THE FREELANCE VENDOR COMPANIES AND ALERT THEM TO INFORM ALL THERE CLIENTS IN THEIR DATA BASE ABOUT YOUR BULLSH*T. THEY NEED TO PROTECT THEIR CLIENTS AND THEIR REPUTATION ABOUT SHISTEY A*S JUMPY VENDORS LIKE YOU. SO YOU LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU WANT TO STOP........ I HAVE MY WHOLE LIFE TO KEEP YOUR A*S ON BLAST....YOU STARTED THIS SH*T BY LYING, NOT KEEPING YOUR WORD AND MAKING KNEE JERK REACTIONS WITHOUT DEFENANT RESPONSES FROM ME REFUSING TO PAY YOU.. SO NOW SINCE YOU MAKE SO MANY KNEE JERK REACTIONS F*CK YOU AND KNEE JERK THAT SH*T OFF RIPP OFF AND MAYBE I MIGHT PAY YOUR TIRED A*S.. NO TAKE OFF RIPP OFF/ YOU GET NO MONEY EVER !!!!!!!!

GO TELL MAMA THAT!!!!

(Race has nothing to do with it. I'm of mixed race. So what? Unlike the personal slams I've endured such as the ones above and below, I've never said anything defaming in my attempt to collect on this debt and I've certainly never called him the n-word like he called himself in a previous update to this RipOffReport.)

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Barbara McAtlin wrote:
I sent three emails to each of your three email addresses AND called you
AND spoke to you at least twice about payment. You ignored it. I made a
good faith attempt to have the RipOffReport removed and you were copied on
the email I sent them. Personal slams on me are immature.

The "vendor" you've chosen is violating copyright laws and now that I have
it in writing that you're knowingly violating copyright laws, my case is
sewed up tight. Thanks.



From: themylaigroup@gmail.com
Subject: NICE !!!
Date: June 10, 2008 8:05:19 AM MDT
To: solidimaging@ftitel.net

> I have a vendor already redoing the botched job you did. So don't worry
> your stuff will never be used. And I am paying them with the money I
> would
> have paid you if you would have lived up to your side of the bargain /
> agreement. Is that illiterate enough for you? You just won't admit it.
> You jumped the gun while you did not make good faith attempts to contact
> me. 1 message and one email (so you say) and you blast me on the
> internet?
> THAT IS BULLSH*T!! / So maybe I 'll keep my commits to myself. Since
> you
> post evrything on the web minus your side of this conversation. By the
> way
> You never served me one thing and I have not refused any mail from you so
> again you are lying.

(If he's read this RipOffReport he knows that he's being sued and he knows the date as well as the time and amount. I've already cleared this with the judge as being a legal process serve since Mr. Tenner has acknowledged it via email. August 7th, 10:00 a.m. San Juan County Court. $1245 which includes fees. I've also posted my return emails to Mr. Tenner but I guess he's not read them.)
>
>
>
> 1. I am NOT Happy with your work.
> 2. I have hired another vendor paid in full $850 to redo everything.
> 3. I will not use the SH*T you put together.
> 4. Stop posting stuff on the internet about me and the situation Your a
> big bad B*TCH TALK TO ME!!
> 5. It did not work out and leave it at that.
> 6. Since it did not work YOU GET NO MONEY! THAT's BUSINESS!!!
> 7. AGAIN I am SORRY it did not work out but I can not work with someone
> like you with these tatics and the unperfessionalism, the personal
> attacks,
> the slimy internet bullsh*t that is not called for but oh well.

(Again, if he's so "unhappy" with my work, why did he have me upload it to the printer for printing AND speak to me about doing all of his other design work? If the design is so horrible, why is he selling both of the books on Lulu.com in direct violation of US copyright laws? It must not have been that awful if he's willing to charge between $17 and $30 for them.)
>
> The reason why my entry was so choppy was because I was so PI*SED OFF at
> you
> I could not put what was in my mind down on the computer right. So You
> have
> a great Non alcoholic life with your rugger's dog's , pigs, etc.... you
> need it. No wonder your husband lives in Florida or arizona He can't
> stand
> your a*s>
>

--
The Mylai Group LLC.
1-651-276-7572

www.Greekleadership.blogspot.com
www.blogtalkradio.com/The_Gold_Boot_Guy

Myspace.com/TheGoldBootGuy


(Yes, I have 13 years clean and sober. How cool is that? I also take in abused and abandoned dogs. I have another one on the way. She's 12 and recovering from heartworm. The dogs live a good life here with lots of room to run and play. I regularly volunteer with the humane society and have found good homes for quite a few deserving dogs. They see the vet regularly and get to go a lot of different places. Since this is a farm, I have two pigs. We're expecting piglets in late August. Not that it matters to the general population but due to the horrid safety conditions and many deaths (12 in the last two years) in the mining industry here in Utah, my husband found a great job that he loves in Arizona where safety is number one and mine-related deaths and serious injuries are rare (one in the last two years and that was due to a heart-attack). He's moving up quickly and has just been promoted for a third time in two years. I'm extremely proud of him. I'd rather have him in Arizona and alive than in Utah and dead.)

I'm actually VERY good about paper trails. I have every email Mr. Tenner has ever sent me along with every email I've ever sent him. One of the emails I included in this report actually mentions the certified letters I've sent and Mr. Tenner's rude and illiterate answers when I gave him his necessary heads-up that he would be receiving something in his mailbox.

I'm actually VERY good about paper trails. I have every email Mr. Tenner has ever sent me along with every email I've ever sent him. One of the emails I included in this report actually mentions the certified letters I've sent and Mr. Tenner's rude and illiterate answers when I gave him his necessary heads-up that he would be receiving something in his mailbox.

I'm actually VERY good about paper trails. I have every email Mr. Tenner has ever sent me along with every email I've ever sent him. One of the emails I included in this report actually mentions the certified letters I've sent and Mr. Tenner's rude and illiterate answers when I gave him his necessary heads-up that he would be receiving something in his mailbox.

As you can see in the posted emails, Mr. Tenner has been sent TWO certified letters. The first was sent in mid-April. THe first certified letter was returned to me as refused, he told me that he did NOT check his PO Box unless someone contacted him first to tell him to expect a letter.

I don't know abut you but the mail is very important to my business so I check my mailbox every day. I would never expect my clients to contact me to tell me to check my mailbox. That's not good business.

I've sent a second certified letter AND emailed him to let him know that there would be something in his mailbox today, June 9. He wrote an email back to me essentially telling me to F off and that he's closed down that PO Box and that he's going to get a restraining order against me (no judge on earth would give him a restraining order since this is a legal attempt to collect on a debt and I have done nothing illegal in my attempts to collect that debt).

So, in the meantime, I scanned in the court papers and emailed them to him. I received an answer calling me a b*tch. I know he's received the papers as he's answered me and told me, once again, to F off.

Has any of these parties ever heard of certified mail?

When someone owes me money, I might send ONE email. After that it's certified mail with a return receipt requested.

Further, an emailed "notice to appear" from the plaintif to the defendant is MEANINGLESS!!!!

The defendant has to be properly SERVED. It doesn't appear as though this has happened.

I own 2 small businesses. I have to wonder why both parties seem to have avoided a paper trail. Neither party has stated anything about using certified mail. Ecommerce is well and good (my other business is computer services and consulting) but when payments are not forthcoming, the courts like to see something that was UNDENIABLY delivered-certified or registered mail as a demand for payment.

Below is just a sampling of the emails I have received from Mylai Tenner. What I'd really like to know is, if there are so many "typos" in his customer-supplied text, why is he selling the products he doesn't own and that are owned by Solid Imaging Design & Graphics?

As there are rules against offensive language here on RipOffReport.com, I am editing out the foul language contained in his emails and including my comments in emails to him. I am including my comments and/or emails and replies in ( ).

Mylai Tenner to me
show details Jun 5 (2 days ago)
Reply
Hwta paper work. i have not seen anything Stop sending me stuff BI*CH!

(I sent no reply to this email. This was his reply to me upon being served via my personal email with the notice to appear affidavit above attached.)

Stop Emailing. I am calling the Police right now not only to file a report but get it to get a restraining order tommorow.

(This was sent to me in return for the notice to appear being sent from my work email. Restraining orders cannot be legally obtained under oath for reasonable and legal attempts to collect on a debt.)

(My original email dated 6/5/08 to Mylai Tenner read "Since you refuse to check your PO box without notice, you will have a certified letter in your PO Box on either Monday, June 9 or Tuesday, June 10." I was told by Mylai Tenner that he never checked his PO box unless people called to tell him he should be expecting something so I emailed to let him know he should be expecting something.)

I LOST ALL MY GIGS THIS MONTH AND LAST MONTH BECAUSE OF YOUR BULLS*IT LIES.....
I would never sign off on anything that was not professionaly done and finished to my liking

(He liked my work so much he told all of his friends about me. Funny how that changes when it comes time to pay.)

I never told you I was totaly happy with the product
There are several things times 4 that was still wrong with this products

(If there's so much wrong with the text that was supplied to me by Mylai Tenner, why is he selling it? I wasn't paid to be an editor, I was unpaid to lay out the pages and do the designs.)

You have acted in a psycotic manner I do not feel comfortable working with you or dealing wih you at all.

(I didn't threaten to fly out to his home to plaster flyers around the state -- see below -- saying what a piece of 'crap' [my wording, not his] he is and I didn't threaten to call the police on him. I'm legally trying to collect on a lawful debt. I haven't called him at midnight or any other unreasonable time -- I've actually only called him regarding this once but his phone threats didn't stop even when I didn't answer my phone, I have them all saved on my voicemail. I haven't emailed his ex-wife or children or threatened to call DCFS on him -- we don't even have any children so where this came from I don't know. I haven't threatened him in any way. I am just trying to collect on a legal debt.)

I am sending everything back to you I found some else who is more professional and does what i want and not what they want and spell checks etc... before I get it.

(I didn't type it and I wasn't paid to be an editor. The text was supplied to me. Again, if the work is so awful, why is he trying to sell it?)

If you contact me for anuthing I will file harrassment charges against you.

(Okay. Once again, I have not gone beyond the legal bounds of trying to collect on a debt. Everything I've done has been perfectly legal and I've given him MORE than enough notice to pay.)

WE ARE EVEN I DO NOT OWE YOU ANYTHING.... You made this like it is by your psycotic and immature behavior. you have been paid for all the work that I agreed was finished. Good Luck in allthat you do Just leave me alone. I have closed that P.O. Box so I do not know how you are going to send me anything.

AGAIN LEAVE ME ALONE / YOU HAVE DONE ENOUGH DAMAGE ALREADY WITH YOUR BULLSH*T!!!!!!!!!

If i find anything else on the web I will report you to every outlet and authority that there is for freelance work. I will also file defamation charges aginst you. Will see if you like paying lawyer fees and airline fees defending yourselve in MN.!!!!!

(There is no case for defamation. Any first year law student or high-school senior would know that. However, "I will report you to every outlet and authority that there is for freelance work" could very well lead to a defamation suit -- against Mr. Tenner as it would be flat-out lies in his attempt to get out of paying this debt. I have the paperwork to prove it.)

(THE EMAILS BELOW CONTAIN BOTH HIS THREATS TO ME AS WELL AS MY ANSWERS. I DO NOT FIND MY ANSWERS OR PROFESSIONALISM TO BE PSYCHOTIC AT ALL. The emails copied below are best read from the bottom up.)

(You've already signed off on my work so you owe me for the job I did whether you send it back to me or not. Go ahead and do what you're going to do. It's making my case even better. You really should read up on some laws when it comes to paying people who do work for you.

I told you I emailed them to ask then to remove it. I even copied you on the email. Nothing more I can do. Either they answer the email or they don't. I can't force them.)


On May 20, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

Then Do what you said you would do and TAKE IT OFF OR YOU WILL GET NO MONEY AND BAD PUBLICITY.. HOW ABOIUT THIS I WILL SEND YOU All the files you senbt me and you can havethem back and we cAN BE DONE. I don't owe you nothing and you do not owe me nothing! I thank that is the easiest way to get this done and over with ...


you let me know what you wan to do. I have another personb who says they can do a better job and at a cheaper price too. So let me know............. I don't have time to play thee games... You knw what you need to do and you rese after you committed tii the phone conversation......

So I am done yoiu

(I'm going to ignore you because I'm tired of this.)

On May 20, 2008, at 4:37 PM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

You need to post the whoile conversation and in what context. I surekky have them and willl not be be drug through the mud. If you like I can go straight to elance and guru and all web sites that do freelance and lket them see the whole conversation of the emails. It's funny you can add sh*t to the story but you can not tke from hmmm busted your sekf out.... So you let me know what you are going to do...
you take it off opr I will send it back ti you and ket another provider recreate your work at a cheaper price....

(Note from BJM: This would be in direct violation of copyright laws and would involved another designer in a copyright suit as Mr. Tenner is aware of the fact that Solid Imaging Design & Graphics owns the copyrights to these design pieces.)

(I told you I emailed them about removing it. That's the best I can do.)

On May 20, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

thank you for not responding the SH*T WILL COMMENCE!!!!!!!

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Mylai Tenner wrote:
HERE You GO. You said you emailed them on how to get it erased. ANd it has taken a week and it still is up there. The promisary note does not do anything. I trusted you, plus I am trying to get you your business. Are y ou Bipolar or something. You asked me on the phone" Do you promise to PAY ME? " I said yes at the end of the month you said "o.k. I will ytake it off" I then said thank you and that I would send you a promisssary note to confirm that.

(BJM Note: I made a fair and reasonable attempt for removal. I am also not bipolar and I would never dream of taking shots at another person like that -- especially not one who I owed money to.)

Now you put this promise to pay with this lengthy story showing that's taking away from my lively hood. I have not threatended you what spo ever. I was going to pay you a $1000 out of thanks for taking it off but senese you keep hagkling on this thing it will be only $700 IF you take that D*MN thing off. If not not I will not pay yuou a dime and I will counter sue you hence, I can show you typeo's and miss spellingsd that should have been fixed and asked to be fixed.

(BJM Note: If he was so unhappy with the work I did, why was he going to pay me $1000 out of "thanks?")

Like you I will pull out all stops just as well. Don't Mess With ME!

I have not lied to you and or ducked your calls. I have explained the mix up and am willing to set this thing straight on the right PATH ! BUT YOU ARE FU*KING UP MY NAME by not taking the thing off like I have asked several times before and what you agreeded on.

(BJM Note: He blamed the failure to receive the intent to file email on his "virtual assistant." Until I emailed the intent to file notice, he always answered his own emails but as soon as I sent the intent to file notice, he all of a sudden had a virtual assistant. I just don't believe it.)

SO for the record.

You take off the RIPP OFF STORY in it's entirety
Take my Business Name ane Personal Name and story Off that D*MN SITE.
Then I will PAY you at the end of the month
NO business / name and persoanl Name off the site NO PAY EVER!

I have been Patient I have tried to reason with you and everything. I will change my name and brand the whole nine yards. I doubt care anymore you are not even being reasonable. May be i need to Hire a SUPER LAWYER who is a family friend who will take this on for FREE and OWN YOUR FARM AND EVRYTHING BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING CHARACTER ASSANATION PLUS defamation.

(BJM Note: This is a threat.)

You did not even talk to me personally and or by email with any responses that said that I would not pay you. We did not have a contract. etc... and then you blast me on the internet with no care or nothing. Then you get MAD when someone thinks about doing it to you. Atleast I told you to your face. I did not just do it.

(BJM Note: A verbal contract is admissible in this state AND I have copies of emails he sent to me with changes as well as samples of designs he liked that were sent to me via US mail. No written contract necessary.)

PLEASE TAKE IT OFF/PLEASE TAKE IT OFF/PLEASE TAKE IT OFF/


IF YOU LEAVE IT ON THERE YOU WILL NOT GET PAID AND THAT IS FINAL. i WILL COUNTER SUE YOU FOR EVERYTHING I CAN AND INCLUDE LAWYER FEES.

(BJM Note: I'd like to know on what grounds this counter-suit would be based upon.)

EITHER YOU PLAY FAIR OR NOT BUT I AM TIRED OF YOU TALKING ABOUT THREATS...... NO ONE HAS THREATENED YOU ... YOU KNOW WHAT YOU PROMISED AND YOU ARE NOT FESSING UP TO YOUR PART OF THE DEAL. TAKE THE d**n THING OFF. .......


THIS IS THE LAST TIME I WILL SAY THIS. i WILL NOT REST UNTILL YOU FEEL THE DISCOMFORT OF KNOWING THERE IS FALSE INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET ABOUT YOU AND HAD NO CLUE IT WAS ON THERE. NO WAY TO REBUTTAL IT,

NOW I AM PISSED OFF.....

(BJM Note: This is a threat.)

I WILL DRIVE TO UTAH AND PLACARD THAT WHOLE STATE IN FLIERS BUY ADDS IN THE NEWS PAPERS RUN COMMERCIALS ON THE CABLE STATIONS, BUY BILLBOARDS, MAILINGS, EMAIL BLAST, CALL THE STATE DEPARTMENT FOR FOSTER CARE YOU NAME IT. I AM NOT PLAYING ANY MORE... I WANT MY NAME OFF THERE.

(BJM Note: This is a threat. If he can't find his way out here for court, how could he find his way out here to "placard that whole state?")


YOU PROMISED !!!!!!!!!!!

AND NOW

I PROMISE!!!!!!


WHAT F*CKING THROWS ME FOR A LOOP IS ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TAKE MY ALL MY INFO AND STORY OFF AND GET PAID AT THE END OFF THE MONTH. BUT IF IT IS STILL UP THERE THEN PEOPLE WON'T DO BUSINESS AND I CAN'T PAY YOU....


NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT MY MOUTH!!.


IT'S THAT F*CKING SIMPLE AND YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS INTO SOME BIG ORDEAL.


GET IT THROUGH YOU R HEAD ... YOU CAN NOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.....



SO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO NOW!!!!!!!!!!


I'LL GIVE YOU EXACTLY I HOUR WHICH WILL BE 12 NOON MN TIME AND THEN F*CK IT....

I AM THE WRONG n***a TO F*CK WITH !!!!!!!

(BJM Note: The above is not only a threat, it's racist.)


(On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Barbara Jean McAtlin wrote:

I did NOT lie to you. I copied you on the email I sent them so you would know that I took action. Oh, is that another email you didn't get??? I don't for one minute believe you didn't get your emails regarding the lawsuit or intent to file.

There you go -- threatening me again. I guarantee that if you file a report on me I will pull out all stops. You will not only be sued for what you owe me, I will sue you for any damage that is done to my business as it would be an erroneous charge. I did my part and you were given your designs in a timely manner that was on-budget. I will file an injunction against you if that's what it takes. Should I be forced to hire an attorney to take care of this crap, you'll be responsible for those charges as well. Don't mess with me.

Do not call me. I won't talk to you. I want everything in writing -- your threats included.)


On May 20, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

Firstly,

I have never threatened you and never will, that is not my thing. However Barbara we had a deal you take it down and I would pay you at the end of the month. But NOW you just want to leave i up there with the promisarry note. So basically you lied to me when you said you emailed Ripp off Because according to them it won't never come done. WHY are you acting like this? I thought we came to an agreement? I promised you I would pay and you are still going off the deep end about this.. JUST get the thing off there so I can get this last GIG and get you paid. Don't you SEE it would be in your best interest...... JUst think..... You take it down I get the GIG you get PAID very SImple... You keep it up I get no Gigs You do not get paid EVER.. Now Barbara you are playing victim here.... I have fired my Virtual Assistant because some how this has happened with her access to my email etc.. So I have taken back that power.. So enoough with the sarcasim.


But I NEED THAT OFF COMPLETELY IF YOU WANT YOUR MONEY!!!! NO THREATS JUST FACTS.........I will call you later to calmly discuss this. Any way. If I have to I will Hire someone to change the info, My name , number email address and etc.... to not associate me with that Ripp off thing and i will file my own ripp off page with all your information on it and see how you like it! With out anykind of warning or human to human response or contact.


SO PLEASE STOP THE BULLSH*T AND COMPLY WITH WANT YOU PROMISED..........

(BJM Note: I made a fair and reasonable attempt to comply with his DEMANDS. He was copied on the email I sent so he's aware of the fact that I did try.)

(On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Barbara Jean McAtlin wrote:
I shouldn't have to chase someone down who owes me money. I don't expect the electric company to call me more than once if my payment's late.

Funny how you're getting my emails now and it's funny how I have to wait until June to get paid although, since you said you thought you paid, the money should have been taken out in your check register, and, since the money would have already been written out of your account, then I should have gotten a check well before June.

I've gone out of my way to make arrangements with you about this and all you keep doing is threatening me. It's your debt and if the Ripoff Report is costing you money, so be it -- I'm sitting here with a whole lot of money owed to me that I can't seem to collect. It's been one excuse after another with you. I emailed about having it removed; at this point, that's all I'm going to do. I'm tired of messing with trying to get YOU to pay YOUR debt.

I had the court date moved from yesterday to June 5th at 10:00 a.m. to give you time to pay but you just keep threatening me about payment. I did my part, you got your designs done -- on time and well within budget. You've threatened me at every turn and I'm sick of it. Keep it up and I will pursue criminal charges because of the threats. All I want is my money.)

(BJM Note: I gave him an additional two weeks to pay as he promised he would. No payment. The suit has been refiled with late fees and additional filing fees added to it.)


On May 20, 2008, at 6:42 AM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

After further research I have found out that the ripp off report can not get erased. WOW. I think before you do stuff like this in the future you make sure you have a conversation with someone that says they are not going to pay you. You need to Fix this I lost 2 more igs for the end of the month. I have 1 more and they are teettertoddering ....YOU NEED TO CALL RIPP OFF PERSONALLY AND GET THIS FIXED> THAT PROMISARRY NOTE DOES NOTHING FOR ME> THE WHOLE THING NEED TO BE ERASED!!!!!!

--
The Mylai Group LLC.


(BJM Note: I have no desire what-so-ever to speak with him. Any communications we have I prefer to have in writing.)

(BJM Note: I have many, many more emails with threats just like the above. All I want is to be paid for the work I've done.)

Below is just a sampling of the emails I have received from Mylai Tenner. What I'd really like to know is, if there are so many "typos" in his customer-supplied text, why is he selling the products he doesn't own and that are owned by Solid Imaging Design & Graphics?

As there are rules against offensive language here on RipOffReport.com, I am editing out the foul language contained in his emails and including my comments in emails to him. I am including my comments and/or emails and replies in ( ).

Mylai Tenner to me
show details Jun 5 (2 days ago)
Reply
Hwta paper work. i have not seen anything Stop sending me stuff BI*CH!

(I sent no reply to this email. This was his reply to me upon being served via my personal email with the notice to appear affidavit above attached.)

Stop Emailing. I am calling the Police right now not only to file a report but get it to get a restraining order tommorow.

(This was sent to me in return for the notice to appear being sent from my work email. Restraining orders cannot be legally obtained under oath for reasonable and legal attempts to collect on a debt.)

(My original email dated 6/5/08 to Mylai Tenner read "Since you refuse to check your PO box without notice, you will have a certified letter in your PO Box on either Monday, June 9 or Tuesday, June 10." I was told by Mylai Tenner that he never checked his PO box unless people called to tell him he should be expecting something so I emailed to let him know he should be expecting something.)

I LOST ALL MY GIGS THIS MONTH AND LAST MONTH BECAUSE OF YOUR BULLS*IT LIES.....
I would never sign off on anything that was not professionaly done and finished to my liking

(He liked my work so much he told all of his friends about me. Funny how that changes when it comes time to pay.)

I never told you I was totaly happy with the product
There are several things times 4 that was still wrong with this products

(If there's so much wrong with the text that was supplied to me by Mylai Tenner, why is he selling it? I wasn't paid to be an editor, I was unpaid to lay out the pages and do the designs.)

You have acted in a psycotic manner I do not feel comfortable working with you or dealing wih you at all.

(I didn't threaten to fly out to his home to plaster flyers around the state -- see below -- saying what a piece of 'crap' [my wording, not his] he is and I didn't threaten to call the police on him. I'm legally trying to collect on a lawful debt. I haven't called him at midnight or any other unreasonable time -- I've actually only called him regarding this once but his phone threats didn't stop even when I didn't answer my phone, I have them all saved on my voicemail. I haven't emailed his ex-wife or children or threatened to call DCFS on him -- we don't even have any children so where this came from I don't know. I haven't threatened him in any way. I am just trying to collect on a legal debt.)

I am sending everything back to you I found some else who is more professional and does what i want and not what they want and spell checks etc... before I get it.

(I didn't type it and I wasn't paid to be an editor. The text was supplied to me. Again, if the work is so awful, why is he trying to sell it?)

If you contact me for anuthing I will file harrassment charges against you.

(Okay. Once again, I have not gone beyond the legal bounds of trying to collect on a debt. Everything I've done has been perfectly legal and I've given him MORE than enough notice to pay.)

WE ARE EVEN I DO NOT OWE YOU ANYTHING.... You made this like it is by your psycotic and immature behavior. you have been paid for all the work that I agreed was finished. Good Luck in allthat you do Just leave me alone. I have closed that P.O. Box so I do not know how you are going to send me anything.

AGAIN LEAVE ME ALONE / YOU HAVE DONE ENOUGH DAMAGE ALREADY WITH YOUR BULLSH*T!!!!!!!!!

If i find anything else on the web I will report you to every outlet and authority that there is for freelance work. I will also file defamation charges aginst you. Will see if you like paying lawyer fees and airline fees defending yourselve in MN.!!!!!

(There is no case for defamation. Any first year law student or high-school senior would know that. However, "I will report you to every outlet and authority that there is for freelance work" could very well lead to a defamation suit -- against Mr. Tenner as it would be flat-out lies in his attempt to get out of paying this debt. I have the paperwork to prove it.)

(THE EMAILS BELOW CONTAIN BOTH HIS THREATS TO ME AS WELL AS MY ANSWERS. I DO NOT FIND MY ANSWERS OR PROFESSIONALISM TO BE PSYCHOTIC AT ALL. The emails copied below are best read from the bottom up.)

(You've already signed off on my work so you owe me for the job I did whether you send it back to me or not. Go ahead and do what you're going to do. It's making my case even better. You really should read up on some laws when it comes to paying people who do work for you.

I told you I emailed them to ask then to remove it. I even copied you on the email. Nothing more I can do. Either they answer the email or they don't. I can't force them.)


On May 20, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

Then Do what you said you would do and TAKE IT OFF OR YOU WILL GET NO MONEY AND BAD PUBLICITY.. HOW ABOIUT THIS I WILL SEND YOU All the files you senbt me and you can havethem back and we cAN BE DONE. I don't owe you nothing and you do not owe me nothing! I thank that is the easiest way to get this done and over with ...


you let me know what you wan to do. I have another personb who says they can do a better job and at a cheaper price too. So let me know............. I don't have time to play thee games... You knw what you need to do and you rese after you committed tii the phone conversation......

So I am done yoiu

(I'm going to ignore you because I'm tired of this.)

On May 20, 2008, at 4:37 PM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

You need to post the whoile conversation and in what context. I surekky have them and willl not be be drug through the mud. If you like I can go straight to elance and guru and all web sites that do freelance and lket them see the whole conversation of the emails. It's funny you can add sh*t to the story but you can not tke from hmmm busted your sekf out.... So you let me know what you are going to do...
you take it off opr I will send it back ti you and ket another provider recreate your work at a cheaper price....

(Note from BJM: This would be in direct violation of copyright laws and would involved another designer in a copyright suit as Mr. Tenner is aware of the fact that Solid Imaging Design & Graphics owns the copyrights to these design pieces.)

(I told you I emailed them about removing it. That's the best I can do.)

On May 20, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

thank you for not responding the SH*T WILL COMMENCE!!!!!!!

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Mylai Tenner wrote:
HERE You GO. You said you emailed them on how to get it erased. ANd it has taken a week and it still is up there. The promisary note does not do anything. I trusted you, plus I am trying to get you your business. Are y ou Bipolar or something. You asked me on the phone" Do you promise to PAY ME? " I said yes at the end of the month you said "o.k. I will ytake it off" I then said thank you and that I would send you a promisssary note to confirm that.

(BJM Note: I made a fair and reasonable attempt for removal. I am also not bipolar and I would never dream of taking shots at another person like that -- especially not one who I owed money to.)

Now you put this promise to pay with this lengthy story showing that's taking away from my lively hood. I have not threatended you what spo ever. I was going to pay you a $1000 out of thanks for taking it off but senese you keep hagkling on this thing it will be only $700 IF you take that D*MN thing off. If not not I will not pay yuou a dime and I will counter sue you hence, I can show you typeo's and miss spellingsd that should have been fixed and asked to be fixed.

(BJM Note: If he was so unhappy with the work I did, why was he going to pay me $1000 out of "thanks?")

Like you I will pull out all stops just as well. Don't Mess With ME!

I have not lied to you and or ducked your calls. I have explained the mix up and am willing to set this thing straight on the right PATH ! BUT YOU ARE FU*KING UP MY NAME by not taking the thing off like I have asked several times before and what you agreeded on.

(BJM Note: He blamed the failure to receive the intent to file email on his "virtual assistant." Until I emailed the intent to file notice, he always answered his own emails but as soon as I sent the intent to file notice, he all of a sudden had a virtual assistant. I just don't believe it.)

SO for the record.

You take off the RIPP OFF STORY in it's entirety
Take my Business Name ane Personal Name and story Off that D*MN SITE.
Then I will PAY you at the end of the month
NO business / name and persoanl Name off the site NO PAY EVER!

I have been Patient I have tried to reason with you and everything. I will change my name and brand the whole nine yards. I doubt care anymore you are not even being reasonable. May be i need to Hire a SUPER LAWYER who is a family friend who will take this on for FREE and OWN YOUR FARM AND EVRYTHING BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING CHARACTER ASSANATION PLUS defamation.

(BJM Note: This is a threat.)

You did not even talk to me personally and or by email with any responses that said that I would not pay you. We did not have a contract. etc... and then you blast me on the internet with no care or nothing. Then you get MAD when someone thinks about doing it to you. Atleast I told you to your face. I did not just do it.

(BJM Note: A verbal contract is admissible in this state AND I have copies of emails he sent to me with changes as well as samples of designs he liked that were sent to me via US mail. No written contract necessary.)

PLEASE TAKE IT OFF/PLEASE TAKE IT OFF/PLEASE TAKE IT OFF/


IF YOU LEAVE IT ON THERE YOU WILL NOT GET PAID AND THAT IS FINAL. i WILL COUNTER SUE YOU FOR EVERYTHING I CAN AND INCLUDE LAWYER FEES.

(BJM Note: I'd like to know on what grounds this counter-suit would be based upon.)

EITHER YOU PLAY FAIR OR NOT BUT I AM TIRED OF YOU TALKING ABOUT THREATS...... NO ONE HAS THREATENED YOU ... YOU KNOW WHAT YOU PROMISED AND YOU ARE NOT FESSING UP TO YOUR PART OF THE DEAL. TAKE THE d**n THING OFF. .......


THIS IS THE LAST TIME I WILL SAY THIS. i WILL NOT REST UNTILL YOU FEEL THE DISCOMFORT OF KNOWING THERE IS FALSE INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET ABOUT YOU AND HAD NO CLUE IT WAS ON THERE. NO WAY TO REBUTTAL IT,

NOW I AM PISSED OFF.....

(BJM Note: This is a threat.)

I WILL DRIVE TO UTAH AND PLACARD THAT WHOLE STATE IN FLIERS BUY ADDS IN THE NEWS PAPERS RUN COMMERCIALS ON THE CABLE STATIONS, BUY BILLBOARDS, MAILINGS, EMAIL BLAST, CALL THE STATE DEPARTMENT FOR FOSTER CARE YOU NAME IT. I AM NOT PLAYING ANY MORE... I WANT MY NAME OFF THERE.

(BJM Note: This is a threat. If he can't find his way out here for court, how could he find his way out here to "placard that whole state?")


YOU PROMISED !!!!!!!!!!!

AND NOW

I PROMISE!!!!!!


WHAT F*CKING THROWS ME FOR A LOOP IS ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TAKE MY ALL MY INFO AND STORY OFF AND GET PAID AT THE END OFF THE MONTH. BUT IF IT IS STILL UP THERE THEN PEOPLE WON'T DO BUSINESS AND I CAN'T PAY YOU....


NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT MY MOUTH!!.


IT'S THAT F*CKING SIMPLE AND YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS INTO SOME BIG ORDEAL.


GET IT THROUGH YOU R HEAD ... YOU CAN NOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.....



SO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO NOW!!!!!!!!!!


I'LL GIVE YOU EXACTLY I HOUR WHICH WILL BE 12 NOON MN TIME AND THEN F*CK IT....

I AM THE WRONG n***a TO F*CK WITH !!!!!!!

(BJM Note: The above is not only a threat, it's racist.)


(On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Barbara Jean McAtlin wrote:

I did NOT lie to you. I copied you on the email I sent them so you would know that I took action. Oh, is that another email you didn't get??? I don't for one minute believe you didn't get your emails regarding the lawsuit or intent to file.

There you go -- threatening me again. I guarantee that if you file a report on me I will pull out all stops. You will not only be sued for what you owe me, I will sue you for any damage that is done to my business as it would be an erroneous charge. I did my part and you were given your designs in a timely manner that was on-budget. I will file an injunction against you if that's what it takes. Should I be forced to hire an attorney to take care of this crap, you'll be responsible for those charges as well. Don't mess with me.

Do not call me. I won't talk to you. I want everything in writing -- your threats included.)


On May 20, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

Firstly,

I have never threatened you and never will, that is not my thing. However Barbara we had a deal you take it down and I would pay you at the end of the month. But NOW you just want to leave i up there with the promisarry note. So basically you lied to me when you said you emailed Ripp off Because according to them it won't never come done. WHY are you acting like this? I thought we came to an agreement? I promised you I would pay and you are still going off the deep end about this.. JUST get the thing off there so I can get this last GIG and get you paid. Don't you SEE it would be in your best interest...... JUst think..... You take it down I get the GIG you get PAID very SImple... You keep it up I get no Gigs You do not get paid EVER.. Now Barbara you are playing victim here.... I have fired my Virtual Assistant because some how this has happened with her access to my email etc.. So I have taken back that power.. So enoough with the sarcasim.


But I NEED THAT OFF COMPLETELY IF YOU WANT YOUR MONEY!!!! NO THREATS JUST FACTS.........I will call you later to calmly discuss this. Any way. If I have to I will Hire someone to change the info, My name , number email address and etc.... to not associate me with that Ripp off thing and i will file my own ripp off page with all your information on it and see how you like it! With out anykind of warning or human to human response or contact.


SO PLEASE STOP THE BULLSH*T AND COMPLY WITH WANT YOU PROMISED..........

(BJM Note: I made a fair and reasonable attempt to comply with his DEMANDS. He was copied on the email I sent so he's aware of the fact that I did try.)

(On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Barbara Jean McAtlin wrote:
I shouldn't have to chase someone down who owes me money. I don't expect the electric company to call me more than once if my payment's late.

Funny how you're getting my emails now and it's funny how I have to wait until June to get paid although, since you said you thought you paid, the money should have been taken out in your check register, and, since the money would have already been written out of your account, then I should have gotten a check well before June.

I've gone out of my way to make arrangements with you about this and all you keep doing is threatening me. It's your debt and if the Ripoff Report is costing you money, so be it -- I'm sitting here with a whole lot of money owed to me that I can't seem to collect. It's been one excuse after another with you. I emailed about having it removed; at this point, that's all I'm going to do. I'm tired of messing with trying to get YOU to pay YOUR debt.

I had the court date moved from yesterday to June 5th at 10:00 a.m. to give you time to pay but you just keep threatening me about payment. I did my part, you got your designs done -- on time and well within budget. You've threatened me at every turn and I'm sick of it. Keep it up and I will pursue criminal charges because of the threats. All I want is my money.)

(BJM Note: I gave him an additional two weeks to pay as he promised he would. No payment. The suit has been refiled with late fees and additional filing fees added to it.)


On May 20, 2008, at 6:42 AM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

After further research I have found out that the ripp off report can not get erased. WOW. I think before you do stuff like this in the future you make sure you have a conversation with someone that says they are not going to pay you. You need to Fix this I lost 2 more igs for the end of the month. I have 1 more and they are teettertoddering ....YOU NEED TO CALL RIPP OFF PERSONALLY AND GET THIS FIXED> THAT PROMISARRY NOTE DOES NOTHING FOR ME> THE WHOLE THING NEED TO BE ERASED!!!!!!

--
The Mylai Group LLC.


(BJM Note: I have no desire what-so-ever to speak with him. Any communications we have I prefer to have in writing.)

(BJM Note: I have many, many more emails with threats just like the above. All I want is to be paid for the work I've done.)

Below is just a sampling of the emails I have received from Mylai Tenner. What I'd really like to know is, if there are so many "typos" in his customer-supplied text, why is he selling the products he doesn't own and that are owned by Solid Imaging Design & Graphics?

As there are rules against offensive language here on RipOffReport.com, I am editing out the foul language contained in his emails and including my comments in emails to him. I am including my comments and/or emails and replies in ( ).

Mylai Tenner to me
show details Jun 5 (2 days ago)
Reply
Hwta paper work. i have not seen anything Stop sending me stuff BI*CH!

(I sent no reply to this email. This was his reply to me upon being served via my personal email with the notice to appear affidavit above attached.)

Stop Emailing. I am calling the Police right now not only to file a report but get it to get a restraining order tommorow.

(This was sent to me in return for the notice to appear being sent from my work email. Restraining orders cannot be legally obtained under oath for reasonable and legal attempts to collect on a debt.)

(My original email dated 6/5/08 to Mylai Tenner read "Since you refuse to check your PO box without notice, you will have a certified letter in your PO Box on either Monday, June 9 or Tuesday, June 10." I was told by Mylai Tenner that he never checked his PO box unless people called to tell him he should be expecting something so I emailed to let him know he should be expecting something.)

I LOST ALL MY GIGS THIS MONTH AND LAST MONTH BECAUSE OF YOUR BULLS*IT LIES.....
I would never sign off on anything that was not professionaly done and finished to my liking

(He liked my work so much he told all of his friends about me. Funny how that changes when it comes time to pay.)

I never told you I was totaly happy with the product
There are several things times 4 that was still wrong with this products

(If there's so much wrong with the text that was supplied to me by Mylai Tenner, why is he selling it? I wasn't paid to be an editor, I was unpaid to lay out the pages and do the designs.)

You have acted in a psycotic manner I do not feel comfortable working with you or dealing wih you at all.

(I didn't threaten to fly out to his home to plaster flyers around the state -- see below -- saying what a piece of 'crap' [my wording, not his] he is and I didn't threaten to call the police on him. I'm legally trying to collect on a lawful debt. I haven't called him at midnight or any other unreasonable time -- I've actually only called him regarding this once but his phone threats didn't stop even when I didn't answer my phone, I have them all saved on my voicemail. I haven't emailed his ex-wife or children or threatened to call DCFS on him -- we don't even have any children so where this came from I don't know. I haven't threatened him in any way. I am just trying to collect on a legal debt.)

I am sending everything back to you I found some else who is more professional and does what i want and not what they want and spell checks etc... before I get it.

(I didn't type it and I wasn't paid to be an editor. The text was supplied to me. Again, if the work is so awful, why is he trying to sell it?)

If you contact me for anuthing I will file harrassment charges against you.

(Okay. Once again, I have not gone beyond the legal bounds of trying to collect on a debt. Everything I've done has been perfectly legal and I've given him MORE than enough notice to pay.)

WE ARE EVEN I DO NOT OWE YOU ANYTHING.... You made this like it is by your psycotic and immature behavior. you have been paid for all the work that I agreed was finished. Good Luck in allthat you do Just leave me alone. I have closed that P.O. Box so I do not know how you are going to send me anything.

AGAIN LEAVE ME ALONE / YOU HAVE DONE ENOUGH DAMAGE ALREADY WITH YOUR BULLSH*T!!!!!!!!!

If i find anything else on the web I will report you to every outlet and authority that there is for freelance work. I will also file defamation charges aginst you. Will see if you like paying lawyer fees and airline fees defending yourselve in MN.!!!!!

(There is no case for defamation. Any first year law student or high-school senior would know that. However, "I will report you to every outlet and authority that there is for freelance work" could very well lead to a defamation suit -- against Mr. Tenner as it would be flat-out lies in his attempt to get out of paying this debt. I have the paperwork to prove it.)

(THE EMAILS BELOW CONTAIN BOTH HIS THREATS TO ME AS WELL AS MY ANSWERS. I DO NOT FIND MY ANSWERS OR PROFESSIONALISM TO BE PSYCHOTIC AT ALL. The emails copied below are best read from the bottom up.)

(You've already signed off on my work so you owe me for the job I did whether you send it back to me or not. Go ahead and do what you're going to do. It's making my case even better. You really should read up on some laws when it comes to paying people who do work for you.

I told you I emailed them to ask then to remove it. I even copied you on the email. Nothing more I can do. Either they answer the email or they don't. I can't force them.)


On May 20, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

Then Do what you said you would do and TAKE IT OFF OR YOU WILL GET NO MONEY AND BAD PUBLICITY.. HOW ABOIUT THIS I WILL SEND YOU All the files you senbt me and you can havethem back and we cAN BE DONE. I don't owe you nothing and you do not owe me nothing! I thank that is the easiest way to get this done and over with ...


you let me know what you wan to do. I have another personb who says they can do a better job and at a cheaper price too. So let me know............. I don't have time to play thee games... You knw what you need to do and you rese after you committed tii the phone conversation......

So I am done yoiu

(I'm going to ignore you because I'm tired of this.)

On May 20, 2008, at 4:37 PM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

You need to post the whoile conversation and in what context. I surekky have them and willl not be be drug through the mud. If you like I can go straight to elance and guru and all web sites that do freelance and lket them see the whole conversation of the emails. It's funny you can add sh*t to the story but you can not tke from hmmm busted your sekf out.... So you let me know what you are going to do...
you take it off opr I will send it back ti you and ket another provider recreate your work at a cheaper price....

(Note from BJM: This would be in direct violation of copyright laws and would involved another designer in a copyright suit as Mr. Tenner is aware of the fact that Solid Imaging Design & Graphics owns the copyrights to these design pieces.)

(I told you I emailed them about removing it. That's the best I can do.)

On May 20, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

thank you for not responding the SH*T WILL COMMENCE!!!!!!!

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Mylai Tenner wrote:
HERE You GO. You said you emailed them on how to get it erased. ANd it has taken a week and it still is up there. The promisary note does not do anything. I trusted you, plus I am trying to get you your business. Are y ou Bipolar or something. You asked me on the phone" Do you promise to PAY ME? " I said yes at the end of the month you said "o.k. I will ytake it off" I then said thank you and that I would send you a promisssary note to confirm that.

(BJM Note: I made a fair and reasonable attempt for removal. I am also not bipolar and I would never dream of taking shots at another person like that -- especially not one who I owed money to.)

Now you put this promise to pay with this lengthy story showing that's taking away from my lively hood. I have not threatended you what spo ever. I was going to pay you a $1000 out of thanks for taking it off but senese you keep hagkling on this thing it will be only $700 IF you take that D*MN thing off. If not not I will not pay yuou a dime and I will counter sue you hence, I can show you typeo's and miss spellingsd that should have been fixed and asked to be fixed.

(BJM Note: If he was so unhappy with the work I did, why was he going to pay me $1000 out of "thanks?")

Like you I will pull out all stops just as well. Don't Mess With ME!

I have not lied to you and or ducked your calls. I have explained the mix up and am willing to set this thing straight on the right PATH ! BUT YOU ARE FU*KING UP MY NAME by not taking the thing off like I have asked several times before and what you agreeded on.

(BJM Note: He blamed the failure to receive the intent to file email on his "virtual assistant." Until I emailed the intent to file notice, he always answered his own emails but as soon as I sent the intent to file notice, he all of a sudden had a virtual assistant. I just don't believe it.)

SO for the record.

You take off the RIPP OFF STORY in it's entirety
Take my Business Name ane Personal Name and story Off that D*MN SITE.
Then I will PAY you at the end of the month
NO business / name and persoanl Name off the site NO PAY EVER!

I have been Patient I have tried to reason with you and everything. I will change my name and brand the whole nine yards. I doubt care anymore you are not even being reasonable. May be i need to Hire a SUPER LAWYER who is a family friend who will take this on for FREE and OWN YOUR FARM AND EVRYTHING BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING CHARACTER ASSANATION PLUS defamation.

(BJM Note: This is a threat.)

You did not even talk to me personally and or by email with any responses that said that I would not pay you. We did not have a contract. etc... and then you blast me on the internet with no care or nothing. Then you get MAD when someone thinks about doing it to you. Atleast I told you to your face. I did not just do it.

(BJM Note: A verbal contract is admissible in this state AND I have copies of emails he sent to me with changes as well as samples of designs he liked that were sent to me via US mail. No written contract necessary.)

PLEASE TAKE IT OFF/PLEASE TAKE IT OFF/PLEASE TAKE IT OFF/


IF YOU LEAVE IT ON THERE YOU WILL NOT GET PAID AND THAT IS FINAL. i WILL COUNTER SUE YOU FOR EVERYTHING I CAN AND INCLUDE LAWYER FEES.

(BJM Note: I'd like to know on what grounds this counter-suit would be based upon.)

EITHER YOU PLAY FAIR OR NOT BUT I AM TIRED OF YOU TALKING ABOUT THREATS...... NO ONE HAS THREATENED YOU ... YOU KNOW WHAT YOU PROMISED AND YOU ARE NOT FESSING UP TO YOUR PART OF THE DEAL. TAKE THE d**n THING OFF. .......


THIS IS THE LAST TIME I WILL SAY THIS. i WILL NOT REST UNTILL YOU FEEL THE DISCOMFORT OF KNOWING THERE IS FALSE INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET ABOUT YOU AND HAD NO CLUE IT WAS ON THERE. NO WAY TO REBUTTAL IT,

NOW I AM PISSED OFF.....

(BJM Note: This is a threat.)

I WILL DRIVE TO UTAH AND PLACARD THAT WHOLE STATE IN FLIERS BUY ADDS IN THE NEWS PAPERS RUN COMMERCIALS ON THE CABLE STATIONS, BUY BILLBOARDS, MAILINGS, EMAIL BLAST, CALL THE STATE DEPARTMENT FOR FOSTER CARE YOU NAME IT. I AM NOT PLAYING ANY MORE... I WANT MY NAME OFF THERE.

(BJM Note: This is a threat. If he can't find his way out here for court, how could he find his way out here to "placard that whole state?")


YOU PROMISED !!!!!!!!!!!

AND NOW

I PROMISE!!!!!!


WHAT F*CKING THROWS ME FOR A LOOP IS ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TAKE MY ALL MY INFO AND STORY OFF AND GET PAID AT THE END OFF THE MONTH. BUT IF IT IS STILL UP THERE THEN PEOPLE WON'T DO BUSINESS AND I CAN'T PAY YOU....


NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT MY MOUTH!!.


IT'S THAT F*CKING SIMPLE AND YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS INTO SOME BIG ORDEAL.


GET IT THROUGH YOU R HEAD ... YOU CAN NOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.....



SO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO NOW!!!!!!!!!!


I'LL GIVE YOU EXACTLY I HOUR WHICH WILL BE 12 NOON MN TIME AND THEN F*CK IT....

I AM THE WRONG n***a TO F*CK WITH !!!!!!!

(BJM Note: The above is not only a threat, it's racist.)


(On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Barbara Jean McAtlin wrote:

I did NOT lie to you. I copied you on the email I sent them so you would know that I took action. Oh, is that another email you didn't get??? I don't for one minute believe you didn't get your emails regarding the lawsuit or intent to file.

There you go -- threatening me again. I guarantee that if you file a report on me I will pull out all stops. You will not only be sued for what you owe me, I will sue you for any damage that is done to my business as it would be an erroneous charge. I did my part and you were given your designs in a timely manner that was on-budget. I will file an injunction against you if that's what it takes. Should I be forced to hire an attorney to take care of this crap, you'll be responsible for those charges as well. Don't mess with me.

Do not call me. I won't talk to you. I want everything in writing -- your threats included.)


On May 20, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

Firstly,

I have never threatened you and never will, that is not my thing. However Barbara we had a deal you take it down and I would pay you at the end of the month. But NOW you just want to leave i up there with the promisarry note. So basically you lied to me when you said you emailed Ripp off Because according to them it won't never come done. WHY are you acting like this? I thought we came to an agreement? I promised you I would pay and you are still going off the deep end about this.. JUST get the thing off there so I can get this last GIG and get you paid. Don't you SEE it would be in your best interest...... JUst think..... You take it down I get the GIG you get PAID very SImple... You keep it up I get no Gigs You do not get paid EVER.. Now Barbara you are playing victim here.... I have fired my Virtual Assistant because some how this has happened with her access to my email etc.. So I have taken back that power.. So enoough with the sarcasim.


But I NEED THAT OFF COMPLETELY IF YOU WANT YOUR MONEY!!!! NO THREATS JUST FACTS.........I will call you later to calmly discuss this. Any way. If I have to I will Hire someone to change the info, My name , number email address and etc.... to not associate me with that Ripp off thing and i will file my own ripp off page with all your information on it and see how you like it! With out anykind of warning or human to human response or contact.


SO PLEASE STOP THE BULLSH*T AND COMPLY WITH WANT YOU PROMISED..........

(BJM Note: I made a fair and reasonable attempt to comply with his DEMANDS. He was copied on the email I sent so he's aware of the fact that I did try.)

(On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Barbara Jean McAtlin wrote:
I shouldn't have to chase someone down who owes me money. I don't expect the electric company to call me more than once if my payment's late.

Funny how you're getting my emails now and it's funny how I have to wait until June to get paid although, since you said you thought you paid, the money should have been taken out in your check register, and, since the money would have already been written out of your account, then I should have gotten a check well before June.

I've gone out of my way to make arrangements with you about this and all you keep doing is threatening me. It's your debt and if the Ripoff Report is costing you money, so be it -- I'm sitting here with a whole lot of money owed to me that I can't seem to collect. It's been one excuse after another with you. I emailed about having it removed; at this point, that's all I'm going to do. I'm tired of messing with trying to get YOU to pay YOUR debt.

I had the court date moved from yesterday to June 5th at 10:00 a.m. to give you time to pay but you just keep threatening me about payment. I did my part, you got your designs done -- on time and well within budget. You've threatened me at every turn and I'm sick of it. Keep it up and I will pursue criminal charges because of the threats. All I want is my money.)

(BJM Note: I gave him an additional two weeks to pay as he promised he would. No payment. The suit has been refiled with late fees and additional filing fees added to it.)


On May 20, 2008, at 6:42 AM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

After further research I have found out that the ripp off report can not get erased. WOW. I think before you do stuff like this in the future you make sure you have a conversation with someone that says they are not going to pay you. You need to Fix this I lost 2 more igs for the end of the month. I have 1 more and they are teettertoddering ....YOU NEED TO CALL RIPP OFF PERSONALLY AND GET THIS FIXED> THAT PROMISARRY NOTE DOES NOTHING FOR ME> THE WHOLE THING NEED TO BE ERASED!!!!!!

--
The Mylai Group LLC.


(BJM Note: I have no desire what-so-ever to speak with him. Any communications we have I prefer to have in writing.)

(BJM Note: I have many, many more emails with threats just like the above. All I want is to be paid for the work I've done.)

Below is just a sampling of the emails I have received from Mylai Tenner. What I'd really like to know is, if there are so many "typos" in his customer-supplied text, why is he selling the products he doesn't own and that are owned by Solid Imaging Design & Graphics?

As there are rules against offensive language here on RipOffReport.com, I am editing out the foul language contained in his emails and including my comments in emails to him. I am including my comments and/or emails and replies in ( ).

Mylai Tenner to me
show details Jun 5 (2 days ago)
Reply
Hwta paper work. i have not seen anything Stop sending me stuff BI*CH!

(I sent no reply to this email. This was his reply to me upon being served via my personal email with the notice to appear affidavit above attached.)

Stop Emailing. I am calling the Police right now not only to file a report but get it to get a restraining order tommorow.

(This was sent to me in return for the notice to appear being sent from my work email. Restraining orders cannot be legally obtained under oath for reasonable and legal attempts to collect on a debt.)

(My original email dated 6/5/08 to Mylai Tenner read "Since you refuse to check your PO box without notice, you will have a certified letter in your PO Box on either Monday, June 9 or Tuesday, June 10." I was told by Mylai Tenner that he never checked his PO box unless people called to tell him he should be expecting something so I emailed to let him know he should be expecting something.)

I LOST ALL MY GIGS THIS MONTH AND LAST MONTH BECAUSE OF YOUR BULLS*IT LIES.....
I would never sign off on anything that was not professionaly done and finished to my liking

(He liked my work so much he told all of his friends about me. Funny how that changes when it comes time to pay.)

I never told you I was totaly happy with the product
There are several things times 4 that was still wrong with this products

(If there's so much wrong with the text that was supplied to me by Mylai Tenner, why is he selling it? I wasn't paid to be an editor, I was unpaid to lay out the pages and do the designs.)

You have acted in a psycotic manner I do not feel comfortable working with you or dealing wih you at all.

(I didn't threaten to fly out to his home to plaster flyers around the state -- see below -- saying what a piece of 'crap' [my wording, not his] he is and I didn't threaten to call the police on him. I'm legally trying to collect on a lawful debt. I haven't called him at midnight or any other unreasonable time -- I've actually only called him regarding this once but his phone threats didn't stop even when I didn't answer my phone, I have them all saved on my voicemail. I haven't emailed his ex-wife or children or threatened to call DCFS on him -- we don't even have any children so where this came from I don't know. I haven't threatened him in any way. I am just trying to collect on a legal debt.)

I am sending everything back to you I found some else who is more professional and does what i want and not what they want and spell checks etc... before I get it.

(I didn't type it and I wasn't paid to be an editor. The text was supplied to me. Again, if the work is so awful, why is he trying to sell it?)

If you contact me for anuthing I will file harrassment charges against you.

(Okay. Once again, I have not gone beyond the legal bounds of trying to collect on a debt. Everything I've done has been perfectly legal and I've given him MORE than enough notice to pay.)

WE ARE EVEN I DO NOT OWE YOU ANYTHING.... You made this like it is by your psycotic and immature behavior. you have been paid for all the work that I agreed was finished. Good Luck in allthat you do Just leave me alone. I have closed that P.O. Box so I do not know how you are going to send me anything.

AGAIN LEAVE ME ALONE / YOU HAVE DONE ENOUGH DAMAGE ALREADY WITH YOUR BULLSH*T!!!!!!!!!

If i find anything else on the web I will report you to every outlet and authority that there is for freelance work. I will also file defamation charges aginst you. Will see if you like paying lawyer fees and airline fees defending yourselve in MN.!!!!!

(There is no case for defamation. Any first year law student or high-school senior would know that. However, "I will report you to every outlet and authority that there is for freelance work" could very well lead to a defamation suit -- against Mr. Tenner as it would be flat-out lies in his attempt to get out of paying this debt. I have the paperwork to prove it.)

(THE EMAILS BELOW CONTAIN BOTH HIS THREATS TO ME AS WELL AS MY ANSWERS. I DO NOT FIND MY ANSWERS OR PROFESSIONALISM TO BE PSYCHOTIC AT ALL. The emails copied below are best read from the bottom up.)

(You've already signed off on my work so you owe me for the job I did whether you send it back to me or not. Go ahead and do what you're going to do. It's making my case even better. You really should read up on some laws when it comes to paying people who do work for you.

I told you I emailed them to ask then to remove it. I even copied you on the email. Nothing more I can do. Either they answer the email or they don't. I can't force them.)


On May 20, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

Then Do what you said you would do and TAKE IT OFF OR YOU WILL GET NO MONEY AND BAD PUBLICITY.. HOW ABOIUT THIS I WILL SEND YOU All the files you senbt me and you can havethem back and we cAN BE DONE. I don't owe you nothing and you do not owe me nothing! I thank that is the easiest way to get this done and over with ...


you let me know what you wan to do. I have another personb who says they can do a better job and at a cheaper price too. So let me know............. I don't have time to play thee games... You knw what you need to do and you rese after you committed tii the phone conversation......

So I am done yoiu

(I'm going to ignore you because I'm tired of this.)

On May 20, 2008, at 4:37 PM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

You need to post the whoile conversation and in what context. I surekky have them and willl not be be drug through the mud. If you like I can go straight to elance and guru and all web sites that do freelance and lket them see the whole conversation of the emails. It's funny you can add sh*t to the story but you can not tke from hmmm busted your sekf out.... So you let me know what you are going to do...
you take it off opr I will send it back ti you and ket another provider recreate your work at a cheaper price....

(Note from BJM: This would be in direct violation of copyright laws and would involved another designer in a copyright suit as Mr. Tenner is aware of the fact that Solid Imaging Design & Graphics owns the copyrights to these design pieces.)

(I told you I emailed them about removing it. That's the best I can do.)

On May 20, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

thank you for not responding the SH*T WILL COMMENCE!!!!!!!

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Mylai Tenner wrote:
HERE You GO. You said you emailed them on how to get it erased. ANd it has taken a week and it still is up there. The promisary note does not do anything. I trusted you, plus I am trying to get you your business. Are y ou Bipolar or something. You asked me on the phone" Do you promise to PAY ME? " I said yes at the end of the month you said "o.k. I will ytake it off" I then said thank you and that I would send you a promisssary note to confirm that.

(BJM Note: I made a fair and reasonable attempt for removal. I am also not bipolar and I would never dream of taking shots at another person like that -- especially not one who I owed money to.)

Now you put this promise to pay with this lengthy story showing that's taking away from my lively hood. I have not threatended you what spo ever. I was going to pay you a $1000 out of thanks for taking it off but senese you keep hagkling on this thing it will be only $700 IF you take that D*MN thing off. If not not I will not pay yuou a dime and I will counter sue you hence, I can show you typeo's and miss spellingsd that should have been fixed and asked to be fixed.

(BJM Note: If he was so unhappy with the work I did, why was he going to pay me $1000 out of "thanks?")

Like you I will pull out all stops just as well. Don't Mess With ME!

I have not lied to you and or ducked your calls. I have explained the mix up and am willing to set this thing straight on the right PATH ! BUT YOU ARE FU*KING UP MY NAME by not taking the thing off like I have asked several times before and what you agreeded on.

(BJM Note: He blamed the failure to receive the intent to file email on his "virtual assistant." Until I emailed the intent to file notice, he always answered his own emails but as soon as I sent the intent to file notice, he all of a sudden had a virtual assistant. I just don't believe it.)

SO for the record.

You take off the RIPP OFF STORY in it's entirety
Take my Business Name ane Personal Name and story Off that D*MN SITE.
Then I will PAY you at the end of the month
NO business / name and persoanl Name off the site NO PAY EVER!

I have been Patient I have tried to reason with you and everything. I will change my name and brand the whole nine yards. I doubt care anymore you are not even being reasonable. May be i need to Hire a SUPER LAWYER who is a family friend who will take this on for FREE and OWN YOUR FARM AND EVRYTHING BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING CHARACTER ASSANATION PLUS defamation.

(BJM Note: This is a threat.)

You did not even talk to me personally and or by email with any responses that said that I would not pay you. We did not have a contract. etc... and then you blast me on the internet with no care or nothing. Then you get MAD when someone thinks about doing it to you. Atleast I told you to your face. I did not just do it.

(BJM Note: A verbal contract is admissible in this state AND I have copies of emails he sent to me with changes as well as samples of designs he liked that were sent to me via US mail. No written contract necessary.)

PLEASE TAKE IT OFF/PLEASE TAKE IT OFF/PLEASE TAKE IT OFF/


IF YOU LEAVE IT ON THERE YOU WILL NOT GET PAID AND THAT IS FINAL. i WILL COUNTER SUE YOU FOR EVERYTHING I CAN AND INCLUDE LAWYER FEES.

(BJM Note: I'd like to know on what grounds this counter-suit would be based upon.)

EITHER YOU PLAY FAIR OR NOT BUT I AM TIRED OF YOU TALKING ABOUT THREATS...... NO ONE HAS THREATENED YOU ... YOU KNOW WHAT YOU PROMISED AND YOU ARE NOT FESSING UP TO YOUR PART OF THE DEAL. TAKE THE d**n THING OFF. .......


THIS IS THE LAST TIME I WILL SAY THIS. i WILL NOT REST UNTILL YOU FEEL THE DISCOMFORT OF KNOWING THERE IS FALSE INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET ABOUT YOU AND HAD NO CLUE IT WAS ON THERE. NO WAY TO REBUTTAL IT,

NOW I AM PISSED OFF.....

(BJM Note: This is a threat.)

I WILL DRIVE TO UTAH AND PLACARD THAT WHOLE STATE IN FLIERS BUY ADDS IN THE NEWS PAPERS RUN COMMERCIALS ON THE CABLE STATIONS, BUY BILLBOARDS, MAILINGS, EMAIL BLAST, CALL THE STATE DEPARTMENT FOR FOSTER CARE YOU NAME IT. I AM NOT PLAYING ANY MORE... I WANT MY NAME OFF THERE.

(BJM Note: This is a threat. If he can't find his way out here for court, how could he find his way out here to "placard that whole state?")


YOU PROMISED !!!!!!!!!!!

AND NOW

I PROMISE!!!!!!


WHAT F*CKING THROWS ME FOR A LOOP IS ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TAKE MY ALL MY INFO AND STORY OFF AND GET PAID AT THE END OFF THE MONTH. BUT IF IT IS STILL UP THERE THEN PEOPLE WON'T DO BUSINESS AND I CAN'T PAY YOU....


NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT MY MOUTH!!.


IT'S THAT F*CKING SIMPLE AND YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS INTO SOME BIG ORDEAL.


GET IT THROUGH YOU R HEAD ... YOU CAN NOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.....



SO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO NOW!!!!!!!!!!


I'LL GIVE YOU EXACTLY I HOUR WHICH WILL BE 12 NOON MN TIME AND THEN F*CK IT....

I AM THE WRONG n***a TO F*CK WITH !!!!!!!

(BJM Note: The above is not only a threat, it's racist.)


(On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Barbara Jean McAtlin wrote:

I did NOT lie to you. I copied you on the email I sent them so you would know that I took action. Oh, is that another email you didn't get??? I don't for one minute believe you didn't get your emails regarding the lawsuit or intent to file.

There you go -- threatening me again. I guarantee that if you file a report on me I will pull out all stops. You will not only be sued for what you owe me, I will sue you for any damage that is done to my business as it would be an erroneous charge. I did my part and you were given your designs in a timely manner that was on-budget. I will file an injunction against you if that's what it takes. Should I be forced to hire an attorney to take care of this crap, you'll be responsible for those charges as well. Don't mess with me.

Do not call me. I won't talk to you. I want everything in writing -- your threats included.)


On May 20, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

Firstly,

I have never threatened you and never will, that is not my thing. However Barbara we had a deal you take it down and I would pay you at the end of the month. But NOW you just want to leave i up there with the promisarry note. So basically you lied to me when you said you emailed Ripp off Because according to them it won't never come done. WHY are you acting like this? I thought we came to an agreement? I promised you I would pay and you are still going off the deep end about this.. JUST get the thing off there so I can get this last GIG and get you paid. Don't you SEE it would be in your best interest...... JUst think..... You take it down I get the GIG you get PAID very SImple... You keep it up I get no Gigs You do not get paid EVER.. Now Barbara you are playing victim here.... I have fired my Virtual Assistant because some how this has happened with her access to my email etc.. So I have taken back that power.. So enoough with the sarcasim.


But I NEED THAT OFF COMPLETELY IF YOU WANT YOUR MONEY!!!! NO THREATS JUST FACTS.........I will call you later to calmly discuss this. Any way. If I have to I will Hire someone to change the info, My name , number email address and etc.... to not associate me with that Ripp off thing and i will file my own ripp off page with all your information on it and see how you like it! With out anykind of warning or human to human response or contact.


SO PLEASE STOP THE BULLSH*T AND COMPLY WITH WANT YOU PROMISED..........

(BJM Note: I made a fair and reasonable attempt to comply with his DEMANDS. He was copied on the email I sent so he's aware of the fact that I did try.)

(On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Barbara Jean McAtlin wrote:
I shouldn't have to chase someone down who owes me money. I don't expect the electric company to call me more than once if my payment's late.

Funny how you're getting my emails now and it's funny how I have to wait until June to get paid although, since you said you thought you paid, the money should have been taken out in your check register, and, since the money would have already been written out of your account, then I should have gotten a check well before June.

I've gone out of my way to make arrangements with you about this and all you keep doing is threatening me. It's your debt and if the Ripoff Report is costing you money, so be it -- I'm sitting here with a whole lot of money owed to me that I can't seem to collect. It's been one excuse after another with you. I emailed about having it removed; at this point, that's all I'm going to do. I'm tired of messing with trying to get YOU to pay YOUR debt.

I had the court date moved from yesterday to June 5th at 10:00 a.m. to give you time to pay but you just keep threatening me about payment. I did my part, you got your designs done -- on time and well within budget. You've threatened me at every turn and I'm sick of it. Keep it up and I will pursue criminal charges because of the threats. All I want is my money.)

(BJM Note: I gave him an additional two weeks to pay as he promised he would. No payment. The suit has been refiled with late fees and additional filing fees added to it.)


On May 20, 2008, at 6:42 AM, Mylai Tenner wrote:

After further research I have found out that the ripp off report can not get erased. WOW. I think before you do stuff like this in the future you make sure you have a conversation with someone that says they are not going to pay you. You need to Fix this I lost 2 more igs for the end of the month. I have 1 more and they are teettertoddering ....YOU NEED TO CALL RIPP OFF PERSONALLY AND GET THIS FIXED> THAT PROMISARRY NOTE DOES NOTHING FOR ME> THE WHOLE THING NEED TO BE ERASED!!!!!!

--
The Mylai Group LLC.


(BJM Note: I have no desire what-so-ever to speak with him. Any communications we have I prefer to have in writing.)

(BJM Note: I have many, many more emails with threats just like the above. All I want is to be paid for the work I've done.)

SECOND FILING IN MY ATTEMPT TO BE PAID -- FIRST ATTEMPT IGNORED:

JUSTICE COURT, State of Utah, San Juan County
297 S. Main St., PO Box 833, Monticello, UT 84535
435-587-2544

Solid Imaging Design & Graphics, Plaintiff
Barbara Jean McAtlin, CEO
HC 63 Box 140
Monticello, UT 84535

Changing Faces Consulting, Inc., Defendant
Mylai Tenner
PO Box 65454
St. Paul, MN 55165

AFFIDVIT

Plaintiff swears that the following is true:

(1) Defendant owes plainfitt $700.00 plus a $45.00 filing fee and an estimated service fee of $500.00, for a total of $1245.00. This debt arose on March 24 or before, 2008, for: GRAPHIC DESIGN SERVICES.

(2) Plaintiff has asked defendant to pay the debt, but it has not been paid.

(3) Defendant resides OR the claim arose within the jurisdiction of this court.

PLAINTIFF SIGNATURE HERE
Plaintiff

SUBSCRIBED and SWORM to before me on April 15, 2008

KELLY TRACY
Clerk, Deputy or Notary

ORDER

THE STATE OF UTAH TO THE DEFENDANT: You are directed to appear at a trial and answer the above claim on Date: August 7th, 2008 Time: 10:00 AM
Location: 297 South Main St. Monticello, UT 84535 Public Safety Building

If you fail to appear at the trial, judgment may be entered against you for the amount listed above.

Dated April 15, 2008 KELLY TRACY Clerk

CEASE AND DESIST ORDER and INTENT TO FILE COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT CHARGES

Notice is hereby given that a legal filing will be filed on Monday, June 23, 2008 in the San Juan County Court with regards to copyright infringement upon graphic designs belonging to Solid Imaging Design & Graphics of Monticello, Utah by one Mylai Tenner / Changing Faces Consulting of St. Paul, MN.

As stated in the original intent to file with regards to the non-payment of this debt, the copyright of all works and/or designs by Solid Imaging Design & Graphics belong to SOLID IMAGING DESIGN & GRAPHICS until such time as PAYMENT IN FULL is received from the client, and, as per US copyright law, the copyright is automatically transfered to the client.

Until payment in full is received, the designs belong wholly with Solid Imaging Design & Graphics and may NOT be reproduced, printed, mimeographed or sold in any form. As there has been no payment, the copyright for the Greek Book, Greek Action Guide, Poster, Flyer, Postcard and Envelope belong to SOLID IMAGING DESIGN & GRAPHICS, not Mylai Tenner or Changing Faces Consulting.

It has come to our attention that one of the design projects in question (with exception of the FRONT cover design), The Greek Action Guide (workbook) is being offered for sale by Mylai Tenner on Lulu.com. This is in direct violation of US copyright laws and legal action WILL be taken against Mylai Tenner / Changing Faces Consulting for copyright infringement.

Dated 6/7/08
Barbara Jean McAtlin, CEO
Solid Imaging Design & Graphics

Solid Imaging has reported not getting paid. THIS COMPANY IS psycotict and crazy........

1st. Solid Imaging did an initional project and was paid in full. After the project was done we entered into a verbal agreement of another project. She did the project and I still have not given her the GREEn light on the proofs. There were miss spellings and Tipe o's. She allegedly sent me 3 emails and called me once. I did get a phone message but I was not finished critiquing of over 180 pages of information that will be put to the masses with my name and brand on it. However The email messages demanding payment I did not get. I told her I believe myvirtual assistant might have erased the email and or emails by accident and has since been terminated.

After stumbling that I would be on this sight. I called Sollid Imaging for two days till they (SHE) finally answered the phone. After the emails and calming heads.. She agreed to take this crazy statement down. She stated she would take it down flat out

She then put up a chessy promissary note . I then called her back and reminded her that the agreement was to take the Rip off statement down so that I could fullfill my potential gigs this month and pay her. unfortunately my potential engagments would enter into a contract until this ripp off site was taken down. The solid imaging Bararbra Jean Maclatin would not lift up to her word even though we had verbaly agreed. The 5 engagments were not booked because the ripp off sight.

Till this day she has ignored my 25 plus emails nd numerous phone calls. it is obvious that she never wanted to get this situation done. I even sent her back the files and told her that I would use another provider who was more PROFESSIONAL and LESS EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN BY KNEE JERK REACTIONS that are DEVESTATING to BUSINESS OWNERS...

SO THIS THING IS MUTE NO CLAIM. SHE solidimaging Barbara Maclatin from Utah,
IS OWED NOTHING AND I Will never use her again........

Solid Imaging has reported not getting paid. THIS COMPANY IS psycotict and crazy........

1st. Solid Imaging did an initional project and was paid in full. After the project was done we entered into a verbal agreement of another project. She did the project and I still have not given her the GREEn light on the proofs. There were miss spellings and Tipe o's. She allegedly sent me 3 emails and called me once. I did get a phone message but I was not finished critiquing of over 180 pages of information that will be put to the masses with my name and brand on it. However The email messages demanding payment I did not get. I told her I believe myvirtual assistant might have erased the email and or emails by accident and has since been terminated.

After stumbling that I would be on this sight. I called Sollid Imaging for two days till they (SHE) finally answered the phone. After the emails and calming heads.. She agreed to take this crazy statement down. She stated she would take it down flat out

She then put up a chessy promissary note . I then called her back and reminded her that the agreement was to take the Rip off statement down so that I could fullfill my potential gigs this month and pay her. unfortunately my potential engagments would enter into a contract until this ripp off site was taken down. The solid imaging Bararbra Jean Maclatin would not lift up to her word even though we had verbaly agreed. The 5 engagments were not booked because the ripp off sight.

Till this day she has ignored my 25 plus emails nd numerous phone calls. it is obvious that she never wanted to get this situation done. I even sent her back the files and told her that I would use another provider who was more PROFESSIONAL and LESS EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN BY KNEE JERK REACTIONS that are DEVESTATING to BUSINESS OWNERS...

SO THIS THING IS MUTE NO CLAIM. SHE solidimaging Barbara Maclatin from Utah,
IS OWED NOTHING AND I Will never use her again........

Solid Imaging has reported not getting paid. THIS COMPANY IS psycotict and crazy........

1st. Solid Imaging did an initional project and was paid in full. After the project was done we entered into a verbal agreement of another project. She did the project and I still have not given her the GREEn light on the proofs. There were miss spellings and Tipe o's. She allegedly sent me 3 emails and called me once. I did get a phone message but I was not finished critiquing of over 180 pages of information that will be put to the masses with my name and brand on it. However The email messages demanding payment I did not get. I told her I believe myvirtual assistant might have erased the email and or emails by accident and has since been terminated.

After stumbling that I would be on this sight. I called Sollid Imaging for two days till they (SHE) finally answered the phone. After the emails and calming heads.. She agreed to take this crazy statement down. She stated she would take it down flat out

She then put up a chessy promissary note . I then called her back and reminded her that the agreement was to take the Rip off statement down so that I could fullfill my potential gigs this month and pay her. unfortunately my potential engagments would enter into a contract until this ripp off site was taken down. The solid imaging Bararbra Jean Maclatin would not lift up to her word even though we had verbaly agreed. The 5 engagments were not booked because the ripp off sight.

Till this day she has ignored my 25 plus emails nd numerous phone calls. it is obvious that she never wanted to get this situation done. I even sent her back the files and told her that I would use another provider who was more PROFESSIONAL and LESS EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN BY KNEE JERK REACTIONS that are DEVESTATING to BUSINESS OWNERS...

SO THIS THING IS MUTE NO CLAIM. SHE solidimaging Barbara Maclatin from Utah,
IS OWED NOTHING AND I Will never use her again........

Solid Imaging has reported not getting paid. THIS COMPANY IS psycotict and crazy........

1st. Solid Imaging did an initional project and was paid in full. After the project was done we entered into a verbal agreement of another project. She did the project and I still have not given her the GREEn light on the proofs. There were miss spellings and Tipe o's. She allegedly sent me 3 emails and called me once. I did get a phone message but I was not finished critiquing of over 180 pages of information that will be put to the masses with my name and brand on it. However The email messages demanding payment I did not get. I told her I believe myvirtual assistant might have erased the email and or emails by accident and has since been terminated.

After stumbling that I would be on this sight. I called Sollid Imaging for two days till they (SHE) finally answered the phone. After the emails and calming heads.. She agreed to take this crazy statement down. She stated she would take it down flat out

She then put up a chessy promissary note . I then called her back and reminded her that the agreement was to take the Rip off statement down so that I could fullfill my potential gigs this month and pay her. unfortunately my potential engagments would enter into a contract until this ripp off site was taken down. The solid imaging Bararbra Jean Maclatin would not lift up to her word even though we had verbaly agreed. The 5 engagments were not booked because the ripp off sight.

Till this day she has ignored my 25 plus emails nd numerous phone calls. it is obvious that she never wanted to get this situation done. I even sent her back the files and told her that I would use another provider who was more PROFESSIONAL and LESS EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN BY KNEE JERK REACTIONS that are DEVESTATING to BUSINESS OWNERS...

SO THIS THING IS MUTE NO CLAIM. SHE solidimaging Barbara Maclatin from Utah,
IS OWED NOTHING AND I Will never use her again........

Ripoff Report won't allow me to delete my original posting, however, there has been an update regarding this post.

I have been promised payment in full by June 5, 2008. It seems that there was a problem with Mr. Tenner's virtual assistant and he says he didn't receive my invoices, reminders or Intent to File.

This situation has been remedied and my company will release all copyrights to the design materials upon receipt of the promised check.