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Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints Mormon Church Mormon folks follow a false prophet. Read in the Bible Deuteronomy Chapter 13 about Joseph Smith Internet
Deuteronomy 13 - 1 If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, 2 and the sign or the wonder comes to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, Let us go after other godswhich you have not knownand let us serve them, 3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for the LORD your God is testing you to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 You shall walk after the LORD your God and fear Him, and keep His commandments and obey His voice; you shall serve Him and hold fast to Him. 5 But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has spoken in order to turnyou away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of bondage, to entice you from the way in which the LORD your God commanded you to walk. So you shall put away the evil from your midst.
6 If your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which you have not known, neither you nor your fathers, 7 of the gods of the people which are all around you, near to you or far off from you, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth, 8 you shall not consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; 9 but you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. 10 And you shall stone him with stones until he dies, because he sought to entice you away from the LORD your God"
This Joseph Smith whom they follow was a liar and a false prophet. There is much evidence that he made many wild claims that weren't true. One huge lie which he claimed, was that there were ancient peoples living here in the Americas. But no archaeologists can find ANY evidence of their existence or conflicts. The list of errors of this church founder is simply too long to be believable. Very sad that such an exemplary and kind people could have been so diabolically fooled by this huckster deviant. I pray that these wonderful but lost souls; until their last breath, that they have a last chance to renounce this false prophet and his teachings. In doing so they will truly make Jesus the Lord of their lives.
Finally, Joe Smith taught the opposite of Isaiah 43:10-11 which states: "And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. 11 I, even I, am the LORD, And besides Me there is no savior." For Joe Smith believed and taught that he would one day rule his own planet and be as God...
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To give reference to your words:
"Finally, Joe Smith taught the opposite of Isaiah 43:10-11 which states:
'And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. 11 I, even I, am the LORD, And besides Me there is no savior.' For Joe Smith believed and taught that he would one day rule his own planet and be as God.." - That was Brigham Young.
Joseph Smith was often quoted to of said, and wrote many things, yet he believed in the Bill of Right and Constitution. Joseph Smith [Jr.] thanked John C. Bennett for his work on the Morman Charter and explained: "... that every honest man might dwell secure under its protecting influences, without distinction of sect or party. People were equal - it did dwell in harmony with the U.S. constitution and the bill of rights.
Monday, March 1, 1841 he sponsored an important bill, entitled, An Ordinance in Relation to Religious Societies. It read in part, Be it ordained . . . that Catholics, Presbyterians, Methodists, Baptists, Latter-day Saints, Quakers, Episcopals, Universalists, Unitarians, Mohammedans, [Islam, or Muslim] and all other religious, sects and denominations whatever, shall have free toleration and equal privilege, in this city. Anyone guilty of disturbing or interrupting any religious meeting within the limits of the city could be fined up to $500 and imprisoned for six months.
Joseph Smith never wrote "The Pearl of Great Price" - Brigham Young did.
I will prove there is a difference between Brigham Young and Joseph, Joseph Jr. or Hyrum Smith. People can, and have been divided over what is right or wrong to do.
The Church over time separated into different groups and that can be proved: 1.) Brigham Young - The LDS Church, or 2.) Joseph Smith Jr's Son - Community of Christ, known from 1872 to 2001 as the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (RLDS), or 3.) James Jesse Strang's Church, or 4.) After Brigham Young died Wednesday, August 29, 1877 and several court trials, polygamy was no longer allowed by the LDS Church, the vote to sustain the motion was unanimous, Salt Lake City, Utah, to be Monday, October 6, 1890. Therefore people left. to form 5.) FLDS Church to continue Polygamy and false ideas about Joseph Smith, yet any one can misunderstand about Joseph Smith and Joseph Smith Jr. or Hyrum Smith.
Brigham Young was a psychopath and a very greedy man:
"He dreamed of the kingly robe and the jewelled crown in some far-off valley of the Rocky mountains, where gentiles [people] or theirs laws could not annoy the [so called] saints, or hinder the normal development of [their form of] Mormonism. (The Mormon prophet and his harem; or, An authentic history of Brigham Young, his numerous wives and children. By Mrs. C. V. Waite, page 14)
He wrote, "... I will show you the order of the Kingdom as regards my own family; one of my sons is placed here, another there, another there, and so on. Yet I should be their ruler, savior, dictator, and governor. They would have an innumerable posterity but all would join in harmony with ... This is the order of the Kingdom of Heaven, that men should rise up as Kings and Priests of God." (Brigham Young family (The Utah genealogical and historical magazine, Volumes 10-12. Page 111.)
Brigham Young said - Joseph Smith revealed to me "Let me have but one wife" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, p. 266) July 14, 1855 There its said, Joseph Smith one wife. Brigham Young was upset with Joseph Smith.
Brigham Young - "Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned..." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, p. 266) July 14, 1855.
Brigham Young - That being a polygamist be exalted by it. (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, p. 266) July 14, 1855.
Joseph Smith and Joseph Smith Jr. or Hyrum Smith only lived 10 to 14 years as members of the church (1830 -1840 or 1844). Before their death or after, there was enough time to rewrite their life into fiction, yet there is the facts.
This document, the Doctrine & Covenants - D&C 42:18-28 explains it, Wednesday, February 9, 1831. Its much like the 10 Commandments created by Moses, that explains the facts of how to be part of the civilized world, I explain or quote what Joseph Smith wrote: 18-19) do not kill, 20) do not steal, 21) do not lie to be fair about it, there is a difference intended lie or unintended lie, 22) Thou shalt love thy wife with all thy heart, and shalt cleave unto her and none else., 23) not to offend and deny the faith there is in ones wife, not to lust for several woman, 24) do not commit adultery, 25) repent of adultery, forgiveness, 26) if do adultery again, 27) not makeup, lies, about neighbors, 28) Faith in a smart form of scripture: truth, honesty, and forgiveness, life must have forgiveness, yet truth or honest must exist, to be reasonable, to understand, to learn about and gain from. Life is about existence, progress. With or without certain values, life will exist or not exist. Because certain values can be like faith, fact or fiction.
Therefore the truth is, there is no document signed and sealed by Joseph Smith or Joseph Smith Jr. or Hyrum Smith to create polygamy, they made an effort to forbid polygamy, to enforce that fact whenever aware of it. D&C 132 is not that document, its the rebellion, which gave Joseph, Joseph Jr, and Hyrum Smith a difficult time
I found written, I quote: "... it was internal dissent, precipitated by polygamy, which brought him to the Carthage jail in June 1844." Brigham Young was the one.
Polygamy had its begining with members who were converted from the Cochranite denomination. In 1832 Churchs missionaries, Brigham Young, and some others, began converting these people, a number of them moved to Kirtland bringing their polygamous theology with them.
When Joseph Smith wrote D&C 42 it was a reaction to what was happening. Later when it was too late Joseph moved to bring these men before the High Council for trial, but was murdered before he accomplished the task.
Brigham Young was a psychopath, intent on taking control from Joseph Smith Jr. she can prove it:
By the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo between the United states and Mexico in 1848, the country now embraced in the Territory of Utah was transferred from the jurisdiction of Mexico to the U.S.A. and on the 9th of September, 1850, Congress passed an Act to organize the Territory of Utah. (The Mormon prophet and his harem; or, An authentic history of Brigham Young, his numerous wives and children. By Mrs. C. V. Waite, Chapter 2 or page 21)
Mrs. Waite was a lawyer and the wife of Judge Charles B. Waite, a justice appointed by the Federal Government to the Territory of Utah. She had an excellent opportunity to observe Brigham Young and others while she lived in Salt Lake City
In February, 1846 they crossed the Mississippi on the ice, leaving home, property, and kindred, little did they suspect that the cruel ambitions of Brigham Young would lead them to a land of sparse vegetation. While at Kanesville, now Council Bluff, Iowa, they were poor and means were needed to supply the current necessities, for their trip, various schemes were resorted to by some people, they were sent out to steal cattle and horses and convey them beyond the jurisdiction of the state authorities, others created and circulated counterfeit money. (The Mormon Prophet and His Harem Or an Authentic History of Brigham Young ...By Mrs C. V. Waite page 15-16)
The following affidavit will show in what manner Brigham Young was benefited by the following transaction: Alexander McCord says that he was mustered into the U.S. service in the Mormon battalion, August 16th, 1846. Brigham Young told the U.S. government they would raise a battalion of Mormons to fight in the Mexican War and would receive $42.50 per man making a total of $22,500 received by Parley Pratt and forwarded to Brigham Young, informed them he would send to St. Louis purchase goods and deal them out at wholesale prices, he did not fulfill the promise made. That when their wives appealed to him, expecting in good faith to receive according to promise , he laughed, mimicked, and made fun of them on the public stand; showing how they cried and whined. (The Mormon Prophet and His Harem Or an Authentic History of Brigham Young ...By Mrs C. V. Waite page 16-17)
Joseph or Joseph Jr. or Hyrum Smith knew: The Book of Mormon writes in 2 Nephi10:15 - To be no secret works of Darkness. Joseph or Joseph Jr. or Hyrum Smith explained that Ephesians 5:11-12 is about Works of Darkness, yet Brigham Young went west to Mexican Territory, before becoming the state of Utah, to indulge in some degree of works of darkness, the excuses for going there can be explained, its a fact, evident by the very fact he intended to escape the laws and U.S. Constitution by going to what would become Utah, the old west, when it was before 1850, then after 1850 U.S. territory, before Utah became a state. Psychopaths are not saints
The concept of a psychopathy or psychopath, is linked to several people, this is one of the earliest, "The Unscrupulous Man" the writings by Theophrastus, a student of Aristotle in Ancient Greece.
A psychopathic person can swindle, con their parents out of their life savings, go beyond, not give a second thought to the ruin they left them in, they do it without learning better, they just plain regard others as little more than objects for their personal gratification.
Most psychopaths are very arrogant and cocky. However, when charming a potential victim, they say all the "right" things and make you believe they are kind-hearted souls; not always, but often enough.
It was explained to me, it was a time when riots and scapegoats and brainwashing with lies happened. It was a young country near the 1800's, where fair government may exist or not exist, far from the control of the US government in the East, with the lack of enforcement and therefore Bill of Rights sometimes overlooked, as someone wrote, some places were ruled by its own set of laws sometimes, where justice may exist or not exist, where lies could be trusted therefore effect public opinion.