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Classy Paws Shih Tzu Elonda Womack I purchased a puppy from Elonda Womack, and paid 1800 for the little guy. He was everything I had ever hoped for in a puppy. Well socialized, tiny, gorgeous. Healthy and perfect in every way. I wa Batesville, Indiana
I purchased a puppy from Elonda Womack, and paid 1800 for the little guy. He was everything I had ever hoped for in a puppy. Well socialized, tiny, gorgeous. Healthy and perfect in every way. I was very satisfied with him. I was, however warned about Elondas emotional condition, warned not to deal with her from other breeders who had been burned. She and I had never had a problem, she seemed to me to be professional and upstanding so I went forth with our buisness transaction hoping for the best. I wish I had heeded the warnings.
As time went on my little dog continued to develop eye infections. Conjunctivitis. And after repeated trips to the vets office where NO TRAUMA was discovered, (and documented) the vet couldnt figure out why he continued to develop this issue time and again. So prescriptions for medication to clear up the infection was prescribed he was finally referred to a specialist.
Apon taking him to the specialist they discovered he had DRY EYE. A congenital defect that they are born with. His was very severe in one eye, and only mildly severe in the other eye.
I had no idea what dry eye meant. I asked other facebook breeders if I could still breed the little tike, as he was a prize dog in my opinion. I was hoping the answer was yes. When Mrs Womack seen that I dared to reveal the fact that there was a congenital defect (again, documented) she lost her effing mind. She sent me email after email, time stamped only minutes apart where she rants and raves about what an idiot I am for daring to reveal the secret condition of my puppy. I didnt realize it was supposed to be a secret. My bad.
In my heart there was nothing to be ashamed about. Its not like she intended to create this condition. I totally did not understand her passion and abhorrence for the fact that I openly discussed it. And as my vets all told me, neither parent of the dog need to have this condition for it to be present, it is just a breed specific condition that shows up in the Shih Tzu occasionally. It can actually be quite common.
So here I was thinking what a bummer, after I had paid so much for this little dog I am now discovering to my horror that he cannot even be bred. Im thinking I just lost 1800 dollars. Thats when Elonda told me to send the dog back, and that she would refund his medical costs, his shipping costs, and his price. She patted herself on the back time and again about her policies, and how no other breeder would ever pay those costs.
I was sad that he would have to go, but releived at the same time. I was suprised that I was to receive my money back. She wasnt interested in my releif, she was hateful and rude. She went out of her way to create notes on her facebook and bash my innocence and ignorance openly, as to why I was such an ignorant girl, how I could dare discuss dry eye on facebook. She declared that she never wanted to speak to me again once she received her puppy.
Then came the months of waiting for money.
FIrst she promised to pay back the costs. She sent money for his medical bills and told me I would be eating the shipping costs. And as promised, I received a 300 dollar money order for medical bills only and she sent nothing for the shipping.
She continued to complain and I reminded her that I paid for the dog, I paid her for shipping the dog to me, I DNA'd the dog at my expense, I microchipped him, I paid for all his medical bills, I then paid for shipping back to her. And she has the dog. She is the clear winner here. Since then she has again placed the dog. The amount she received for this puppy the second time hasnt been disclosed to me.
Then she offered me a full grown female dog in exchange for payments owed. It was evident money wasnt going to be forthcoming anytime soon so I accepted the deal.
Then she removed the offer from the table a few days later. Saying she felt I wouldnt be satisfied with any dog from her. ....ok? whatever. I hoped she would then send the money if that was the case. Wrong.
Then the dog was offered again. I again accepted the deal. Later still, she changed her mind again and the dog was removed from the table. Time just ticked on.
Later still the dog became pregnant and I was to have pick of the litter. Later still she changed her mind. Mind you this is with ZERO correspondence from me. She made her mind up and changed her mind faster than a person changes underwear. It was a daily thing with her. And her mood swings.... I received daily messages in my facebook inbox that went from pleasant to down right hateful, based on her myriad of other court cases that were currently playing out in court. People were sueing her, she was sueing people. Based on the days results would determine her frame of mind and that would determine how nasty my emails were from this woman.
Once her brood of black puppies were born she decided that none of her dogs would be the right size for me. She wanted to offer me their mother again. Once I agreed she claimed her husband told her no, that he didnt want me to have that dog.
I asked her for a refund at that time. Five months ago the refund was for 1800 dollars. I assumed that is what the price would be. WRONG. Dont ever just assume Mrs Elonda Womack of Classy Paws Shih Tzu would be upstanding, or honor her own word. I received a payment of 900. and then a second money order of 500 which she scrawled PAID IN FULL across the bottom. She requested that we do not have any further communication. I felt I was receiving a bargain. I would accept the 400 dollar loss to not have to deal with her bouts of hysteria any longer.
I let the matter go, blocked her from my facebook, and refused to respond to her many emails and text messages as she attempts to incite an argument from me again. I just ignore her kindergarden tirades. My motto is forgive and forget. I would let it go. After all it isnt her fault this cute little puppy later grew up to have problems, and honestly, we both lost money on him. He just wasnt meant to be. So I washed my hands of the problem.
Until today. She has begun her insane emailing again.
She cyber stalks me, trying to insert her nose in other dealings of mine, bad mouthing breeder after breeder that I have purchased a dog from, or sold a dog to. She just cant let it go. Nasty email after nasty email.
She claims she thinks I caused harm to the puppy which later turned into DRY EYE. I have it clearly documented from the vets office when first he was taken in that there was NO TRAUMA, NO INJURY whatsoever on the puppys eye, he simply dosnt produce enough tears.
I felt I have taken enough. I have read so many other reports about her on RIPOFF REPORT that mirror the harrasment I have taken from her. When there are multiple accounts of the same complaint regarding this woman you have to stop and think that maybe there is some truth to it.
Tread carefully when dealing with the likes of Mrs Elonda Womack. You have been warned.
18 Updates & Rebuttals
Elonda
Batesville,Indiana,
U.S.A.
The challenge
#19REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mon, March 12, 2012
BTW how do YOU know she is not breeding quality Just because I said she does not like to nurse her babies has NOTHING to do with genetics. Some are just not cut out to be mommies, just l like some human females are not cut out to be mommies. Not sure why you went on to a whole new topic, UNLESS you are the breeder I am pretty sure you are. Like I said you will KNOW I know who you are when you get whats coming to you LOL. And also you have not accepted my challenge by posting your name on this report. That alone tells me you are a Jealous breeder that is mad because you did not get this girl for $400 to breed her to death. Now if you are legit, post your name and not some fake name that others have posted on reports about me that I do not even know who they are. That is the unfortunate thing about this report. Its intent is to alert consumers of bad business, not what you people do and post a bunch of made up names and lies
anonymous
United States of AmericaDon't waste your time
#19Consumer Comment
Sun, March 11, 2012
Kris G. - Don't waste your time with this woman. She is obviously off her rocker.
Elonda- I can tell you the names of many breeders who do not breed their dogs at 15 months old. The only ones who do are the ones who want to get as many litters as possible out of their dogs. It is not possible for your dogs to have all genetic testing because 15 months is too young for it to be completed. As I said before I am not going to go back and forth with you because you are not going to change my mind and I am not going to change yours. Why would you? You wouldn't make as much money if you waited for two years to breed your dogs and skipped every other heat. It's much more profitable to breed the dog while it's still an adolescent and every heat thereafter. They are your dogs, do whatever you want. But don't insult the intelligence of everyone reading this. Anyone with common sense knows that 15 months is too young.
Also, is it just me or does this lady seem to have a lot of people she has problems with? Either that or she's paranoid.
Elonda
Batesville,Indiana,
U.S.A.
I owe you NOTHING
#19REBUTTAL Owner of company
Sun, March 11, 2012
Obviously you ARE a breeder and most likely the breeder that tried to get SYmphony and THAT is why you are pissed. Well to bad, I owe you nothing. Tell me ONE breeder that does not breed a dog at 15 months old? You are an idiot and just mad because you did not get her. Why don't you go pick on Symphonys breeder and leave me alone. I am just smart enough that I figured you out before you got this dog that I paid $1800 for at the price of $400. Hell yea I guess I would be upset too LOL. Your not worth anymore of my time, but for your info, my dogs are tested and MUCH more than most breeders do. PLUS I give a health guarantee that I DO stand behind. All my buyers KNOW that if ANYTHING goes wrong, they have a choice and are not stuck with a defective dog and thousands of $ in vet bills.
KrisG
Maine,USA
Thanks for the laugh
#19General Comment
Sat, March 10, 2012
Because its painfully obvious you are starting to believe you're own hype. NO you don't breed after the second heat you breed AFTER all appropriate health clearances are done AND after two years of age. NOWHERE on your site do you state in any way shape or form that ALL breeding dogs have had their CERF clearances(whats wrong don't want to pay for year certs?), OFA for hips(which you know cannot be certified until age 2) the alternative being PennHIP which can be done younger but again no mention. while you claim to test for JRD you need to go whole hog honey.
Who cares what you paid, you're selling her for $400. your vet's opinion is moot. Very few vets are breeders let alone reproduction specialists actually QUALIFIED to put in their 2 cents.
ALL smart buyers research the breeders they are considering. Its just common sense and good business sense. it doesn't take a genius who knows what to look for to know you're so full of it you're eyes are brown.
You're right some dogs are not cut out for motherhood. Which is partly why you don't breed IMMATURE DOGS. would months or more really have made a difference? Maybe maybe not, the fact is you will never know.
I sincerely hope symphony finds a good home who will appreciate her for the pet dog she has ALWAYS been as she was never breeding material.
Elonda
Batesville,Indiana,
U.S.A.
Come on
#19REBUTTAL Owner of company
Fri, February 24, 2012
Can I ask why you bothered to google MY name of ALL the breeders out there? You won't put your name on here. That tells me and everyone else you are who I KNOW you are. Like I said keep on bringing my name up to the top of google, it really just helps me sell my puppies, has done so MANY times, buyers tell me you don't have to advertise, they do it for you. These stupid reports, people can see right thru them. People tell me that all the time, they are advertising for you. EVERYONE that TRUELY knows me, knows how honest I am and that is the most important thing to me. You mean NOTHING. I challenge ANYONE that reads this. call my vet Dr Lori Kremer @ 513-367-4806 and let HER tell you what she thinks of me and my breeding practices and she don't even like breeders. I think you will be VERY surprised and I rest my case.
Elonda
Batesville,Indiana,
U.S.A.
OMG
#19REBUTTAL Owner of company
Fri, February 24, 2012
You know there really is not excuse for STUPIDITY. If you know ANYTHING, you breed a dog AFTER her second heat. The vet said this dog was ready to breed, I do NOT owe you ANY explanation. YOu are a breeder, I KNOW who you are and you can continue to pull your bullshit, but you have YET to provide your name and the funniest part is breeders is the only one that seem to want to look me up. You will probably know that I know who you are when you get notice of what I have done to you LOL. WHATEVER, get a friggin life and leave honest people alone. You are CLUELESS.
anonymous
United States of AmericaSorry, but no.
#19Consumer Comment
Thu, February 23, 2012
I'm sorry ma'am, but I think you have me confused with someone else. I have never met you before, and I have no idea what you were talking about at all. I am simply someone who was looking to purchase a puppy for a pet. I wanted to be an informed consumer and I Googled you name and then the phone number that was listed on your website (that is how I came across the Ebay ad). I was very appalled by what I saw, and when I read all the complaints against you I thought I had a duty to share what I learned with other potential buyers.
Breeding dogs at 15 months of age is NOT an acceptable breeding practice and I would question the ethics of any vet who told you it was. Many genetic tests can't be completed until the dog is two years of age, therefore this tells me that you do not do genetic testing on your breeding stock. I'm sure you know as well as I do that just because you pay a lot for a dog does not mean it should be bred, and genetic testing is very important to insure that the puppies you are breeding are free of defects.
I am happy to hear that you have decided to spay the dog before you place her in her new home. That is the standard practice of ethical breeders. It is the best thing you can do for the poor girl.
I am not going to get involved in a back-and-forth with you on this site. You seem to be more interested in bashing various people you have a problem with (and there seems to be many). I wish you well and hope that you will reconsider your breeding practices.
Elonda
Batesville,Indiana,
U.S.A.
To the person above
#19REBUTTAL Owner of company
Thu, February 23, 2012
Its funny that only a scam artist and breeder that knows the HELL I have been thru the past few years getting good breeding dogs that are free from genetic issues, would know to go right to this report and write this. I KNOW who you are. You are not hiding anything by not putting your name on this report. I challenge you, why don't you step up and put your name on here? This person KNEW ways of getting around to get the AKC papers, perhaps having her vet write up a letter stating the dog was spayed, since she most likely worked for them at one time and could get them to do so?????? OR perhaps knew the breeder that bred this girl, so she could get the AKC # from her and since the AKC does not back what we as "responsible" breeders feel should not be bred for whatever reason, they only want the $, they would give this idiot full breeding rights to this dog. Its happened to others, so I know it does happen. Well HA HA, she won't leave here until she is spayed, so you WILL NOT get your hands on her or ANY of my dogs in the future that I feel for one reason or another do not fit into my program. Then you want to talk to ME about being responsible. This girl went thru her second heat before she was bred and my vet said she was fine to breed, so your little note of me being irresponsible for breeding her at 15 months don't fly. Seriously you need to take care of your dogs and stay off the internet harrassing others and trying to scam people. THIS WHOLE RIP OFF SITE IS A JOKE, ANYONE can file a report on this thing, it can never be removed without having ANY proof. Don't you idiots know this site was intended for people who actually get ripped off? I doubt any of you believe in Karma, but its real and yours WILL come. Perhaps maybe your family issues might not be so bad if you didn't do these kinds of things. I know all about the issues in your family.
Elonda
Batesville,Indiana,
U.S.A.
Sounds like
#19REBUTTAL Owner of company
Thu, February 23, 2012
Sounds like I was right that WAS a breeder trying to get symphony for $400 and I caught them and did not let it happen, HELL NO, I paid $1800 for this dog and a breeder tried to take advantage and get her for $400 when I listed her as PET ONLY, because I wanted her to be a lap baby. YOU ARE IDIOTS. She was PLENTY old enough to be a mommy and checked by MY wonderful and very knowledgeable vet before she was bred. She just did not like being a mommy as some are not cut out for it, just like in humans. You idiot breeders need to get a life, I am on to your scams and you will NEVER get one of my dogs if I do not approve you and especially will not take advantage of me. I am SO glad I was smart enough to ask where the person lived that was going to pick her up this week, as soon as she told me where she lived I KNEW what was going on and refunded her deposit. All I can say is HA HA to you.
anonymous
United States of America"KrisG" is correct
#19Consumer Comment
Thu, February 23, 2012
The dogs on that website are not up to the AKC standard. Maybe AKC inspects her facilities, but that does not mean she breeds quality dogs that adhere to the standard. They are pet quality dogs at best.
After doing some research I discovered that she has a solid liver girl ("Symphony") born June 2010 who she breed in September of 2011. That means the poor girl was only 15 months old! NO ETHICAL BREEDER WOULD DO THIS!!!!! (I found this dog listed for sale on Ebay CLassifieds. I then saw the puppies listed for sale on her website. [I'm sure she will remove the Ebay ad as soon as she reads this, but I have a print screen of it which I will attach.]) She was selling the dog because she didn't like "being a mommy". I bet she didn't. She still a puppy herself!
Based on this information I would not recommend anyone purchase a puppy from this breeder.
KrisG
United States of AmericaWhere is the quality
#19General Comment
Wed, February 15, 2012
In breeding undersized dogs? Only ONE of her dogs fit the written standard for the breed which is 9-16lbs. anyone who "specializes in 'imperial and small standard size' shih tzus is not a quality breeder. She charges more for "rare and unusual colors" under the standard ALL colors and markings are equal in the ring and thus no matter how hard one may work to produce x color it is NOT worth more. She claims the extra cost is also because of the one year guarantee - your average ethical breeder will provide one for TWO years at minimum. There is no information on show titles(unlikely anyways since only ONE dog is within the size range for this breed) and no mention of ANY health clearances. Not CERF. not OFA and not renal dysplasia.
So I ask where is the quality?
These opinions are based solely on what is presented on the website and knowledge of what does make a quality breeder.
Alisa
Mad River,California,
U.S.A.
Forgive Me.
#19Author of original report
Sat, February 04, 2012
I wrote this report out of anger. I wish I could delete it. While our transaction ended in a disagreement I still consider Elonda Womack to be a great breeder with honor and pride in her breeding program. She breeds beautiful dogs. It was shitty of me to write this and I regret it. I can be hot headed and I wrote this in a bout of anger. I just wanted to add that I would still reccomend her as a place to purchase a quality and beautiful baby shih tzu.
Elonda
Batesville,Indiana,
U.S.A.
tired
#19REBUTTAL Owner of company
Thu, December 08, 2011
I am really tired of defending myself on this stupid report where ANYONE can file a complaint and its not monitored whether there is any facts or basis to it or not. My reputation speaks volumes from the many Pet buyers that have purchased a family pet from me. I you want to hear from some of them, go to my website and read my guestbook @ www.classypawsshihtzus.com, or contact me from my site and I would be happy to send you names of past pet buyers. Better yet call my vet, her name is listed on my site, she cares for all my dogs on a regular basis and knows me better than anyone. If anyone reading these reports would just take notice the only ones that report on here are breeders and its nothing more than shear jealousy. This will be my last response to any of these insane reports as from this day forward I will not be reading them. I have had to pay for lawyers to appear in court out of state for me to recoup my losses on trusting some of these same crazy people that have responded to these reports. All I have to say is GET A LIFE PEOPLE and stop harrasing others that are doing better than you, because we are honest. You get much farther in life being honest.
Elonda
Batesville,Indiana,
U.S.A.
And Last
#19REBUTTAL Owner of company
Thu, October 20, 2011
Lastly this report comes from Ms Floyd whom puts other breeders pictures of their puppies on her website as if she had paid for them. WHen she is confronted she says she put the picture up because she was so excited that she wanted to get be able to purchase him and then went out of town and somehow the page just downloaded on its own LOL. Sounds pretty strange and shady to me Ms Floyd. Is your brain fried.
Elonda
Batesville,Indiana,
U.S.A.
Alisa failed to mention
#19REBUTTAL Owner of company
Thu, October 20, 2011
Alisa did not mention this was the SECOND puppy she reserved with me to which she was refunded for. The first one she chose not to take because the DNA on the male of the litter was incorrect due to yet ANOTHER dishonest breeder that sold me a dog with full AKC and breeding rights, but did not provide the correct father to AKC, so my males offspring could not be registered due to this problem. I was completely honest with Alisa again and she chose to get a refund. Afterwards she proceeds to tell me she was broke and did not know why she was buying dogs anyway so it was really a blessing for her. To me it sounds like Alisa has the problems of buying dogs and deciding its not right for her after the fact. I do not claim to be perfect, but I do claim honesty and always will. I am so thankful this woman does not have any of my puppies. I believe sometimes things happen for a reason and with Ms Floyd being friends with some of the same people that have cheated me, I have to wonder if I wasn't set up. It seems if I do something they don't like, first place they go to is rip off report to try and make me look bad. POTENTIAL BUYERS ONLY...PLEASE CONSIDER THE SOURCE HERE AND IF YOU NEED REFERENCES PLEASE CONTACT ME. MY VET IS THE FIRST THAT WILL GIVE YOU A CHARACTER REFERENCE AND SHE KNOWS ME BETTER THAN ANYONE, SHE SEES MY DOGS ON A VERY REGULAR BASIS AND HAS EVEN SENT BUYERS TO ME.
Elonda
Batesville,Indiana,
U.S.A.
My side of this crazy report
#19REBUTTAL Owner of company
Thu, October 20, 2011
OMG ALisa is this what I get for refunding you your money? I paid the $320 for ZIggys eye testing and once I found out you paid for this testing on another breeders dog I decided, OK are you taking advantage of my "good morals" so I deducted the $320. Tell me why I should pay for the shipping, testing etc, when NO other breeder does so and more importantly when you pay for it with others along with shipping the dogs back and forth to you numerous times?
Now as for the puppy Ms Floyd purchased from me. WHen this puppy left my home he was in perfect condition, my vet checked him thoroughly and found no eye issues. ALthough I know things can change within weeks with the health of these dogs, as they ARE living things and the two dogs I got that had dry eye, the breeder said was fine when they left her home as well but within weeks after arriving here one completely lost his eye due to what a board certified Canine opthamologist informed me was breed predisposed dry eye and was not due to any trauma but was a breed pre disposed condition. I lost all the money in the dogs, plus all the testing, shipping of the dogs and everything. The dogs were placed in good pet homes for free after I spent even more on them to get them to the point of even living a normal life. So with that, I do know things can change which is why I offered Ms Floyd her money back in the first place. I have MANY happy customers that would be more than happy to give me wonderful references. I am an honest breeder and do have morals. However dry eye can also be caused from allergies AND with Ms Floyd stating her vet gave her meds for his eyes, if that med is the wrong meds, certain ones "can" cause this condition as well. Not saying that happened but its possible, however all the time I was willing to give Ms Floyd another puppy or her money back, whichever she chose. SHE chose to wait on this so called "brood of black puppies" because the sire was a tiny male and the SAME male that she just got the puppy from with the problem, so yes I was leary on sending her another puppy even though I took both parents in and confirmed neither had ANY eye problems. She also pushed me off for several weeks as she decided which one of this "brood" she wanted, and finally AGAIN as I am 100% completely honest, I told her this puppy had a very tiny umbillical hernia, she said she didn't want him and wanted her money. I was VERY concerned sending her another puppy, mainly because of her addictions. Ms Floyd had previously told me one of her puppies got into her marijuana and became unconscious and she had to take her to her vet. I don't think any responsible breeder would want one of their adorable puppies to go to her after hearing this story. In fact I have to wonder if some of Ziggys problems were not from living in the conditions he lived in. As far as what I did with Ziggy, My vet can confirm where he is Ms Floyd. Her number is on my site, he was placed FREE with one of her clients and he is doing great in his new home.
I only decided I was not going to pay for the vet bills, shipping etc, after you told me you were paying for all this same testing on another dog from another breeder that had sent you a dog with a HUGE hernia that had to be repaired not once but twice, it was so big, and you stated that you paid for eye testing on this same dog and that she had a double row of eyelashes that turned inward to the cornea which also causes dry eye. This is the same dog that you are placing with ANOTHER breeder now, and the reason you are upset with me, as I simply emailed you from puppyfind and asked you why you paid to have that dog returned to you, only to turn around and sell her and for sure to another breeder when you stated right on the add she was only going to be sold to a pet home, which with all her "genetic" conditions that is where she should be placed, why keep breeding dogs with genetic issues, don't you think there are enough dogs in shelters with problems? I ask anyone reading this to consider the source here, who really is the unethical one? Also Ms Floyd is good friends with MANY of the breeders that have cheated me, so this too makes me wonder why everything involving my dealings with her, is just not right. I only ask that anyone that reads this please contact me, I will refer you to my many satisfied customers not only with my puppies but my business practices. And as far as the other issues Ms Floyd thinks she has to bring up on this report, (due to being friends with these breeders that have cheated me) Yes I have had to pay a lawyer (can even give you his name) a lot of money to get money back due to her dishonest friends. The old saying....birds of a feather...flock together holds truth with some of these breeders. I am very happy to say I am not affiliated with them and never will be. I would get out first.
Alisa
Mad River,California,
U.S.A.
Non Ethical Standards Followed by Constant Harrasment
#19Author of original report
Wed, October 19, 2011
I purchased a puppy from Elonda Womack, and paid 1800 for the little guy. He was everything I had ever hoped for in a puppy. Well socialized, tiny, gorgeous. Healthy and perfect in every way. I was very satisfied with him. I was, however warned about Elondas emotional condition, warned not to deal with her from other breeders who had been burned. She and I had never had a problem, she seemed to me to be professional and upstanding so I went forth with our buisness transaction hoping for the best.
I wish I had heeded the warnings.
As time went on my little dog continued to develop eye infections. Conjunctivitis. And after repeated trips to the vets office where NO TRAUMA was discovered, (and documented) the vet couldnt figure out why he continued to develop this issue time and again. So prescriptions for medication to clear up the infection was prescribed he was finally referred to a specialist. Apon taking him to the specialist they discovered he had DRY EYE. A congenital defect that they are born with. His was very severe in one eye, and only mildly severe in the other eye. I had no idea what dry eye meant.
I asked other facebook breeders if I could still breed the little tike, as he was a prize dog in my opinion. I was hoping the answer was yes. When Mrs Womack seen that I dared to reveal the fact that there was a congenital defect (again, documented) she lost her effing mind. She sent me email after email, time stamped only minutes apart where she rants and raves about what an idiot I am for daring to reveal the secret condition of my puppy. I didnt realize it was supposed to be a secret. My bad. In my heart there was nothing to be ashamed about. Its not like she intended to create this condition. I totally did not understand her passion and abhorrence for the fact that I openly discussed it. And as my vets all told me, neither parent of the dog need to have this condition for it to be present, it is just a breed specific condition that shows up in the Shih Tzu occasionally. It can actually be quite common.
So here I was thinking what a bummer, after I had paid so much for this little dog I am now discovering to my horror that he cannot even be bred. Im thinking I just lost 1800 dollars. Thats when Elonda told me to send the dog back, and that she would refund his medical costs, his shipping costs, and his price. She patted herself on the back time and again about her policies, and how no other breeder would ever pay those costs. I was sad that he would have to go, but releived at the same time. I was suprised that I was to receive my money back.
She wasnt interested in my releif, she was hateful and rude. She went out of her way to create notes on her facebook and bash my innocence and ignorance openly, as to why I was such an ignorant girl, how I could dare discuss dry eye on facebook. She declared that she never wanted to speak to me again once she received her puppy.
Then came the months of waiting for money. First she promised to pay back the costs. She sent money for his medical bills and told me I would be receiving shipping costs. Later after yet another change of heart she informed me she decided I should eat the shipping costs. And as promised, I received a 300 dollar money order for medical bills only and she sent nothing for the shipping.
She continued to complain and I reminded her that
I paid for the dog,
I paid her for shipping the dog to me,
I DNA'd the dog at my expense,
I microchipped him,
I paid for all his medical bills,
I then paid for shipping back to her.
And she has the dog.
She is the clear winner here.
Since then she has again placed the dog.
The amount she received for this puppy the second time hasnt been disclosed to me. Then she offered me a full grown female dog in exchange for payments owed. It was evident money wasnt going to be forthcoming anytime soon so I accepted the deal.
Then she removed the offer from the table a few days later. Saying she felt I wouldnt be satisfied with any dog from her. ....ok? whatever.
I hoped she would then send the money if that was the case. Wrong. Then the dog was offered again. I again accepted the deal. Later still, she changed her mind again and the dog was removed from the table.
Time just ticked on.
Later still the dog became pregnant and I was to have pick of the litter. Later still she changed her mind. Mind you this is with ZERO correspondence from me. She made her mind up and changed her mind faster than a person changes underwear. It was a daily thing with her. And her mood swings.... I received daily messages in my facebook inbox that went from pleasant to down right hateful, based on her myriad of other court cases that were currently playing out in court. People were sueing her, she was sueing people. Based on the days results would determine her frame of mind and that would determine how nasty my emails were from this woman.
Once her brood of black puppies were born she decided that none of her dogs would be the right size for me. She wanted to offer me their mother again. Once I agreed she claimed her husband told her no, that he didnt want me to have that dog. I asked her for a refund at that time. Five months ago the refund was for 1800 dollars. I assumed that is what the price would be. WRONG.
Dont ever just assume Mrs Elonda Womack of Classy Paws Shih Tzu would be upstanding, or honor her own word. I received a payment of 900. and then a second money order of 500 which she scrawled PAID IN FULL across the bottom. She requested that we do not have any further communication. I felt I was receiving a bargain. I would accept the 400 dollar loss and the shipping costs loss, to not have to deal with her bouts of hysteria any longer. I let the matter go, blocked her from my facebook, and refused to respond to her many emails and text messages as she attempts to incite an argument from me again. I just ignore her kindergarden tirades. My motto is forgive and forget. I would let it go. After all it isnt her fault this cute little puppy later grew up to have problems.
So I washed my hands of the problem. Until today. She has begun her insane emailing again. She cyber stalks me, trying to insert her nose in other dealings of mine, bad mouthing breeder after breeder that I have purchased a dog from, or sold a dog to. She just cant let it go. Nasty email after nasty email.
She claims she thinks I caused harm to the puppy which later turned into DRY EYE. I have it clearly documented from the vets office when first he was taken in that there was NO TRAUMA, NO INJURY whatsoever on the puppys eye, he simply dosnt produce enough tears. I felt I have taken enough. I have read so many other reports about her on RIPOFF REPORT that mirror the harrasment I have taken from her. When there are multiple accounts of the same complaint regarding this woman you have to stop and think that maybe there is some truth to it. Tread carefully when dealing with the likes of Mrs Elonda Womack. You have been warned.
Alisa
Mad River,California,
U.S.A.
Non Ethical Standards Followed by Constant Harrasment
#19Author of original report
Wed, October 19, 2011
I purchased a puppy from Elonda Womack, and paid 1800 for the little guy. He was everything I had ever hoped for in a puppy. Well socialized, tiny, gorgeous. Healthy and perfect in every way. I was very satisfied with him. I was, however warned about Elondas emotional condition, warned not to deal with her from other breeders who had been burned. She and I had never had a problem, she seemed to me to be professional and upstanding so I went forth with our buisness transaction hoping for the best.
I wish I had heeded the warnings.
As time went on my little dog continued to develop eye infections. Conjunctivitis. And after repeated trips to the vets office where NO TRAUMA was discovered, (and documented) the vet couldnt figure out why he continued to develop this issue time and again. So prescriptions for medication to clear up the infection was prescribed he was finally referred to a specialist. Apon taking him to the specialist they discovered he had DRY EYE. A congenital defect that they are born with. His was very severe in one eye, and only mildly severe in the other eye. I had no idea what dry eye meant.
I asked other facebook breeders if I could still breed the little tike, as he was a prize dog in my opinion. I was hoping the answer was yes. When Mrs Womack seen that I dared to reveal the fact that there was a congenital defect (again, documented) she lost her effing mind. She sent me email after email, time stamped only minutes apart where she rants and raves about what an idiot I am for daring to reveal the secret condition of my puppy. I didnt realize it was supposed to be a secret. My bad. In my heart there was nothing to be ashamed about. Its not like she intended to create this condition. I totally did not understand her passion and abhorrence for the fact that I openly discussed it. And as my vets all told me, neither parent of the dog need to have this condition for it to be present, it is just a breed specific condition that shows up in the Shih Tzu occasionally. It can actually be quite common.
So here I was thinking what a bummer, after I had paid so much for this little dog I am now discovering to my horror that he cannot even be bred. Im thinking I just lost 1800 dollars. Thats when Elonda told me to send the dog back, and that she would refund his medical costs, his shipping costs, and his price. She patted herself on the back time and again about her policies, and how no other breeder would ever pay those costs. I was sad that he would have to go, but releived at the same time. I was suprised that I was to receive my money back.
She wasnt interested in my releif, she was hateful and rude. She went out of her way to create notes on her facebook and bash my innocence and ignorance openly, as to why I was such an ignorant girl, how I could dare discuss dry eye on facebook. She declared that she never wanted to speak to me again once she received her puppy.
Then came the months of waiting for money. First she promised to pay back the costs. She sent money for his medical bills and told me I would be receiving shipping costs. Later after yet another change of heart she informed me she decided I should eat the shipping costs. And as promised, I received a 300 dollar money order for medical bills only and she sent nothing for the shipping.
She continued to complain and I reminded her that
I paid for the dog,
I paid her for shipping the dog to me,
I DNA'd the dog at my expense,
I microchipped him,
I paid for all his medical bills,
I then paid for shipping back to her.
And she has the dog.
She is the clear winner here.
Since then she has again placed the dog.
The amount she received for this puppy the second time hasnt been disclosed to me. Then she offered me a full grown female dog in exchange for payments owed. It was evident money wasnt going to be forthcoming anytime soon so I accepted the deal.
Then she removed the offer from the table a few days later. Saying she felt I wouldnt be satisfied with any dog from her. ....ok? whatever.
I hoped she would then send the money if that was the case. Wrong. Then the dog was offered again. I again accepted the deal. Later still, she changed her mind again and the dog was removed from the table.
Time just ticked on.
Later still the dog became pregnant and I was to have pick of the litter. Later still she changed her mind. Mind you this is with ZERO correspondence from me. She made her mind up and changed her mind faster than a person changes underwear. It was a daily thing with her. And her mood swings.... I received daily messages in my facebook inbox that went from pleasant to down right hateful, based on her myriad of other court cases that were currently playing out in court. People were sueing her, she was sueing people. Based on the days results would determine her frame of mind and that would determine how nasty my emails were from this woman.
Once her brood of black puppies were born she decided that none of her dogs would be the right size for me. She wanted to offer me their mother again. Once I agreed she claimed her husband told her no, that he didnt want me to have that dog. I asked her for a refund at that time. Five months ago the refund was for 1800 dollars. I assumed that is what the price would be. WRONG.
Dont ever just assume Mrs Elonda Womack of Classy Paws Shih Tzu would be upstanding, or honor her own word. I received a payment of 900. and then a second money order of 500 which she scrawled PAID IN FULL across the bottom. She requested that we do not have any further communication. I felt I was receiving a bargain. I would accept the 400 dollar loss and the shipping costs loss, to not have to deal with her bouts of hysteria any longer. I let the matter go, blocked her from my facebook, and refused to respond to her many emails and text messages as she attempts to incite an argument from me again. I just ignore her kindergarden tirades. My motto is forgive and forget. I would let it go. After all it isnt her fault this cute little puppy later grew up to have problems.
So I washed my hands of the problem. Until today. She has begun her insane emailing again. She cyber stalks me, trying to insert her nose in other dealings of mine, bad mouthing breeder after breeder that I have purchased a dog from, or sold a dog to. She just cant let it go. Nasty email after nasty email.
She claims she thinks I caused harm to the puppy which later turned into DRY EYE. I have it clearly documented from the vets office when first he was taken in that there was NO TRAUMA, NO INJURY whatsoever on the puppys eye, he simply dosnt produce enough tears. I felt I have taken enough. I have read so many other reports about her on RIPOFF REPORT that mirror the harrasment I have taken from her. When there are multiple accounts of the same complaint regarding this woman you have to stop and think that maybe there is some truth to it. Tread carefully when dealing with the likes of Mrs Elonda Womack. You have been warned.