Complaint Review: Consumer Information Service

Kevin that was a great post. I thought your arguments were compelling and concise. I too share your thoughts about the state of our nation.



My parents tell me of a time in our nation when our government was for and by the people. Their generation was raised in the depression and fought the Second World War. We may never see the caliber of man or woman that we had at that point in time.



Today our government is the sock puppet for a global (hydra like) corporation. Our elected leaders are put there by doe eyed lemmings that will rally around anyone claiming to be tight with god. This is well documented by the fervor of advanced medical research phobics.



These issues are concocted by do nothing representatives as a side show to distract you from holding any of them accountable for the rampant corporate fraud that takes place daily in our nation, and why would they want to crack down on these companies? Who do you think funds their campaigns?



People are always saying that Islamic fundamentalism has hijacked the governments of the Middle East, while they praise the rise of Christian fundamentalism in our own nation. Whose government is being hijacked now? Politicians are falling over one another just to be filmed in a church praying with people they would have no earthly reason to associate themselves with.



While one hand is performing a brilliant slight of hand trick by telling you that there is a moral and ethical crisis in this nation, and all that really needs to be done is make sure Gays don't marry and children aren't taught the basics of human sexuality, and everything will be OK! The other is being paid off by the real culprits destroying the economic and moral fiber of this nation. Corporate greed!



With tears in my eyes I watch the people of this nation go skipping to there doom shouting "praise the lord and pass the ammunition" blind to the real destroyer of worlds.

Hello Joe,



I've been reading your arguements for the past several months directed at the EzLink Yahoo group. What simply makes no sense, to even someone seasoned in business, like myself, who got snared wtih this whole Pantheon deal, is the fact that you say CIS lost money in the past, right?



Now, I've been through this whole scam thing only once before in my life, back in 1979, when I was a young man, and got three quarters of my money back before the FEDS closed down the company I invested into: A cosmetic company called Dynique International. I was young and green behind the ears back then to how the world worked.



The principles went to jail and the owner, Fred Pape, skipped the country off to the Cayman Islands. It was an interesting lesson, which taught me a lot about being careful when making investments in the future, given the evils existing on this planet.



Back then, my attorney, John Meyers, made a settlement with that company and before a dime came to me, it went to the attorney first, so he could get paid first, then I was paid. Didn't you folks operate this way when working on contingency? Obviously, you didn't! Why not?



Because if you had, you would have been protecting yourself in terms of always getting paid and since you say you are honorable, you most certainly would have paid your client, after extracting your fee, like any attorney would have done.



I would not trust $1200 to someone who is this "stupid" in terms of doing business and then complains how they didn't get paid, but now must charge a fee up front for guaranteed payment.



If you had simply been handling it this way to begin with, CIS would not have gotten taken either, in the past or even now. So be careful how you accuse us of our own short sightedness in all this with Pantheon. See how easy it is to make a mistake, by admission of your own recorded word in all of this?



That's nice for you, you don't lose and what good is your word of a guarantee when you didn't have enough sense to have the scam companies in the past send payment to you first, to deduct your fee, while then forwarding the remaining amount, honorably, to your client. You lost everyone, including me, when you revealed that point and it is a bad arguement position to be operating from in terms of defending CIS.



What? We are suppose to trust someone, who claims to be so smart, has an angle, but does not have the sense to have the settlement money sent to them first to deduct their fee, before settling with their client? Using your arguement, projects someone who isn't operating on a full pilot light, let alone having the burner turned all the way on.



I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking this, but no one has properly pointed this fact out on Yahoo or Ripoff.



I will say, I admire your stick-to-it-ness in rebuttling each person's concerns, but you are doing a poor job at closing any of us into trusting you folks and I've just given you the main reason why.



A lot of smart people got taken by Pantheon, Joe: Some were attorneys. Some of us are very seasoned in the business arena and I've never run up against anything this sophisticated an operation in my fifty years of living on this planet. Talk about your white collar crime! But then again, life on this earth is one big school, especially when it comes to evil and its many forms, isn't it?



A lot of very bright people fell for these parasites operating out of Florida and if Bush doesn't clean house soon, the next time a series of huricanes comes onto the shores of Florida, I'm going to be praying God do it for him by increasing the wind velocity and blow the whole state into the Gulf bay, wiping it off the face of the earth!!!



What a tavestry our nation is becoming with all this ilk and parasite activity going on. But then again, it may indeed be the last days of Pompei, the volcanoe is about to blow and no one is paying attention! It's just a shame it has to be the United States which is in decline. So many kids have sacrificed their lives in past wars for this great nation and for what? This? But then again, with great wealth, always comes great arrogance before a fall when you look at history and there is always increased parasite activity in any body that is starting to die. In many ways we have become an arrogant nation before our creator and we need to change our tune in terms of helping each other.



We won't be the first great nation to fall in history. Looks like the great experiment in freedom is about to fully fail by being consumed, as a living body, by its own parasites: All too sad and I very much love my country, in spite of its shortcomings.



I don't post that often in all of this, but frankly, if you were honorable, you would be working on contingency and you would not be using such a lame excuse of how you didn't get paid in the past. That is your own fault in not making arrangements to have the funds sent to you first, extracting your fee and then paying your client, which is how most compitent attorneys work to protect themselves, against not getting paid.



It is nice to know that CIS offers preventative care in terms of a business investment, but frankly, after listening to your arguments, I would not trust your company for the reasons given. You should never have used the defense you did, because it simply makes CIS look foolish in my humble opinion.



You shot yourself in the foot when you revealed what you did, I might add.



If, you, as a representative of CIS, want to admit to this and change your tune concerning contingency, while making arrangements to have the settlement money sent to your accounts first, to guarantee payment of your fees, then you will no doubt get a lot of new business signing up, from the victims involved with Pantheon, myself included.



The other side of the coin suggests that you don't feel that confident about your abilities to collect, and do not want to lose no matter what happens. That is what all of us are seeing, who have been saying nothing in all of this with the Ripoff reports and Yahoo group. Everything else you've said levies up there with a rank amateaur using the excuse you made concerning contingency clientele with CIS. Did't you people know what you were doing from the beginning? It appears not. So why should you be trusted now?

I would like to take the opportunity to set the record straight. First, you associating us with Pantheon are completely false. You were involved with that company almost a year ago. That company and others like them sell information about their customers putting them on a buyers list. We didn't know until we spoke with you that your troubles were with Pantheon.

This is ridiculous, we have spoke with Mikk on 4-5 occasions explaining our services. We understand any consumer that has been a victim of fraud, their thought process is overly suspicious, and often clouds better judgment. We work for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive, and unfair business practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers' spot, stop, and avoid them. However, in the real world many people everyday fall prey to the thousands of different types of consumer fraud, weather it be a phony charity or an expensive scam. i.e. pantheon holdings, oil investments, real estate offers, home based business opportunities, etc...

Any consumer with or without our help has avenues they can take to adjust their losses. We help those who aren't aware of the process in doing so. When a consumer takes a loss of money to any type of business opportunity its very rare they adjust the loss to receive back dollar for dollar. This is why information before the fact is crucial, and our primary goal. Of all of our members who use this service, they save a great deal of money, time, and the aggravation that goes along with it.

Mikk, we are empathetic to your situation, however, you are just simply angry that we won't work for free, prompting your comments made here.

Addressing your situation, did you ask Pantheon Holdings, Inc. to send you your machine, install it and have it making money before you paid them? If you had had our service before your involvement you would have not lost a dollar of your 13,000 you spent with Pantheon. To address your question of why we won't work on a contingency basis, this is a professional service, most people we speak with understand to receive a service you have to pay for it like everything else in life. You don't go to the doctor, mechanic, accountant, etc. and leave without paying for the service. This is no different. You don't get to see if your medicine works, or if your car is fixed properly, or if you get your refund before you pay for services rendered. This is why we do guarantee our services, to eliminate concern for our customers. There is overhead in involved in the preparation of letters, calls, our tax amendment program, etc. Our service is 1195.00 for 3 yrs. It breaks down to 400.00 a year, its extremely affordable for all. We have in the past helped out consumers on a contingency basis, unfortunately, there are people out there that have taken advantage of our services and did not pay after the resolve of their problem. So, we simply don't do it anymore. Remember, we are here to help you; you aren't here to help us. This service isn't for everyone, the offer is made to whoever wants to hear about it or needs information, they then have the choice to accept it or not. We wish you all the best of luck in all your life choices.

I would like to take the opportunity to set the record straight. First, you associating us with Pantheon are completely false. You were involved with that company almost a year ago. That company and others like them sell information about their customers putting them on a buyers list. We didn't know until we spoke with you that your troubles were with Pantheon.

This is ridiculous, we have spoke with Mikk on 4-5 occasions explaining our services. We understand any consumer that has been a victim of fraud, their thought process is overly suspicious, and often clouds better judgment. We work for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive, and unfair business practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers' spot, stop, and avoid them. However, in the real world many people everyday fall prey to the thousands of different types of consumer fraud, weather it be a phony charity or an expensive scam. i.e. pantheon holdings, oil investments, real estate offers, home based business opportunities, etc...

Any consumer with or without our help has avenues they can take to adjust their losses. We help those who aren't aware of the process in doing so. When a consumer takes a loss of money to any type of business opportunity its very rare they adjust the loss to receive back dollar for dollar. This is why information before the fact is crucial, and our primary goal. Of all of our members who use this service, they save a great deal of money, time, and the aggravation that goes along with it.

Mikk, we are empathetic to your situation, however, you are just simply angry that we won't work for free, prompting your comments made here.

Addressing your situation, did you ask Pantheon Holdings, Inc. to send you your machine, install it and have it making money before you paid them? If you had had our service before your involvement you would have not lost a dollar of your 13,000 you spent with Pantheon. To address your question of why we won't work on a contingency basis, this is a professional service, most people we speak with understand to receive a service you have to pay for it like everything else in life. You don't go to the doctor, mechanic, accountant, etc. and leave without paying for the service. This is no different. You don't get to see if your medicine works, or if your car is fixed properly, or if you get your refund before you pay for services rendered. This is why we do guarantee our services, to eliminate concern for our customers. There is overhead in involved in the preparation of letters, calls, our tax amendment program, etc. Our service is 1195.00 for 3 yrs. It breaks down to 400.00 a year, its extremely affordable for all. We have in the past helped out consumers on a contingency basis, unfortunately, there are people out there that have taken advantage of our services and did not pay after the resolve of their problem. So, we simply don't do it anymore. Remember, we are here to help you; you aren't here to help us. This service isn't for everyone, the offer is made to whoever wants to hear about it or needs information, they then have the choice to accept it or not. We wish you all the best of luck in all your life choices.

I would like to take the opportunity to set the record straight. First, you associating us with Pantheon are completely false. You were involved with that company almost a year ago. That company and others like them sell information about their customers putting them on a buyers list. We didn't know until we spoke with you that your troubles were with Pantheon.

This is ridiculous, we have spoke with Mikk on 4-5 occasions explaining our services. We understand any consumer that has been a victim of fraud, their thought process is overly suspicious, and often clouds better judgment. We work for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive, and unfair business practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers' spot, stop, and avoid them. However, in the real world many people everyday fall prey to the thousands of different types of consumer fraud, weather it be a phony charity or an expensive scam. i.e. pantheon holdings, oil investments, real estate offers, home based business opportunities, etc...

Any consumer with or without our help has avenues they can take to adjust their losses. We help those who aren't aware of the process in doing so. When a consumer takes a loss of money to any type of business opportunity its very rare they adjust the loss to receive back dollar for dollar. This is why information before the fact is crucial, and our primary goal. Of all of our members who use this service, they save a great deal of money, time, and the aggravation that goes along with it.

Mikk, we are empathetic to your situation, however, you are just simply angry that we won't work for free, prompting your comments made here.

Addressing your situation, did you ask Pantheon Holdings, Inc. to send you your machine, install it and have it making money before you paid them? If you had had our service before your involvement you would have not lost a dollar of your 13,000 you spent with Pantheon. To address your question of why we won't work on a contingency basis, this is a professional service, most people we speak with understand to receive a service you have to pay for it like everything else in life. You don't go to the doctor, mechanic, accountant, etc. and leave without paying for the service. This is no different. You don't get to see if your medicine works, or if your car is fixed properly, or if you get your refund before you pay for services rendered. This is why we do guarantee our services, to eliminate concern for our customers. There is overhead in involved in the preparation of letters, calls, our tax amendment program, etc. Our service is 1195.00 for 3 yrs. It breaks down to 400.00 a year, its extremely affordable for all. We have in the past helped out consumers on a contingency basis, unfortunately, there are people out there that have taken advantage of our services and did not pay after the resolve of their problem. So, we simply don't do it anymore. Remember, we are here to help you; you aren't here to help us. This service isn't for everyone, the offer is made to whoever wants to hear about it or needs information, they then have the choice to accept it or not. We wish you all the best of luck in all your life choices.

We also got a call from consumer information services offering to help us recover 75% of our Pantheon lost money, for a $1200 fee, required upfront! When asked why they wouldn't work on retainer, like most other lawyers, they said that they used to, but most people tell them to get lost, when they get their money.

If they're so good at getting 75% of $13000 from Pantheon, you would think they would know how to get $1200 from me after the fact!



If they worked on retainer, they'd have my business, but they make themselves look like an arm of Pantheon, even if this isn't the case!

Along comes Joe, saying essentially "We have SECRET KNOWLEGE AND METHODS that will get you money... I know you've been scammed, but now I'm the REAL DEAL." Yeah, right. Pantheon victims have heard it all before, but amazingly a considerable number of them may still bite.



The recovery scam is often right on the heels of any widely successful scam.

Bob, In response to your comments about our company, its rediculous we have to battle with people like you and their poorly researched information. Pantheon has on several occasions have returned money to their customers, the customers knew what to do and what to say to get their refund. CIS provides a service to people that are stuck not knowing how to handle these types of losses. How else can a consumer be heard unless they address the problem via letters to the company and the proper agencies. It is also required documentation needed to be able to adjust the short term bad debt losses on your returns. The primary focus of this service is prevention, allowing people to obtain information on any offer that interests them. Giving them the ability to make an informed decision. If you or any other consumer that lost money had had this service before the fact, and used it, you would not be in the position you are now. Telemarketing and Mail Order Fraud is 100 Billion dollar a year industry.



P.S. Bob if this is the same attorney you consulted before you got involved with Pantheon, you should concider interviewing for another attorney.