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11 Updates & Rebuttals


Anonymous

Forks,
Washington,
U.S.A.

Chinese Crested Consumer

#12Consumer Comment

Fri, September 21, 2007

I am the proud owner of a rescue Chinese Crested. She came from a "reputable" breeder. Though when she came to me under her crest was infected from dirt, she has "pearls" of puss on her feet, legs and body. Her canines were broken and filthy. She was older than I was told. She has obviously been over bred, with skin and t***s sagging like she is 80-years-old. She was not house broken, afraid of everything, moderatly aggressive. Shall I go on?

I make the point that this Crested did NOT come from D'Nude's. I do NOT want to confuse this with Deborah. This Crestie did NOT come from D'Nude's.

I have spent much time, patients, and money in rehabilitating this lovely abused soul that came into my life. She is now a great companion! However, I have done rescue work and knew where to start with her. Many average costomers will not.

I have come to a point in my life where I wish to have another Chinese Crested. I have been researching the breed for around 2-years now. I have been researching breeders for 6-9 months. By 6-9 months, I mean daily! I can not begin to tell you how many breeders there are for this kind of dog. As far as "responsible, good" breeders, this is another story.

I am familair with the many faces of puppy-mills. It is HORRIBLE! Instead of purchasing a Crested I considered another rescue, but my schedule and personal resources are not optimal for this time consuming venture at this time. Thus, my investigation of breeders.

In my research I have been aproached for a free stud service in exchange for a pup, without any papers, or qualifications. I have had opportunity to buy an 11-year-old that the breeder self admittedly just quit breeding! I have looked at many pictures of Cresteds that are bloated with worms and malnourishment! Cresteds that are obvious mixes. Cresteds with body language that states they are unsocialized and abused. I could go on forever.

Now, I want to state that I am NOT a friend of D'Nude's, or any of her associates. I am not affiliated with the "rescue" in question, nor with the Alaska mill bust. I knew NONE of this!

I have found this world of breeders to be quite sad. For the most part, I have been witness to bad mouthing, degrading, hatefull behavior among breeders. The one thing I want ALL of you breeders to understand is that makes a nightmare for those of us that are only trying to find a "sound" pet! Do you realy care that little for the dogs, that you spend your time "picking" at each other?

I respect this site as being a way to warn other possible consumers of rip-off danger. The first post against D'Nudes has done that. Enough is enough.

D'Nudes is one of the breeders that I have narrowed my search down to. When I saw the Rip off post, I read it. I was dissapointed. I nearly wrote them off. Then, I came back to read it again and there was all these other statements. In my offering to take in those "dumped" dogs, I discovered that they were NOT even from D'Nude's. Just to set your mind at ease it was NOT Deborah that told me that either! It came from a more "official" source.

I called D'Nude's myself. I have spoken to Deborah, her vets, her handler, the rescue founder, etc! I as a consumer find this scandelous. This person obviously has a personal problem with D'Nude's and is now taking it to an extreme. This "report" (in my opinion) has now turned into a bickering page. As a consumer, I do NOT appreciate this. I want to make educated decisions when it comes to my potential companion of the next 20-years! This oblivious disregard for the dogs and the consumer by these ridiculous statments is appauling.

I am greatful that I spoke with Deborah and all her references. I WILL keep her on my list of possibles for my next Crested. She has proven herself as ligitimate to me and I challenge anyone who has doubt to speak with her yourself! You will find a woman who is very protective and passionate, not to mention in LOVE with her Cresteds.

As for bickering about "Show" and "points" etc. LOOK on the net! There are millions out there that claim show potential/quality/champ lines..... blah...blah...blah. After speaking with Deborah, learning her goals and intentions I can tell that she is a good breeder. God knows I've seen the bad ones. Just because her definition of one thing is different than yours, or her goal is different than yours, does NOT mean that she is invalid! It means that you have differences. Differences are what makes the world go round, NOT a reason for slander!

The positive that I walk away from this board with, is the WAY in which Deborah chose to respond to my questions about this report. There was no babbling explaination of someone trying to "cover" anything. What she gave was an open invitation to check her, her home, her references, INCLUDING the person that started this complaint! THAT my friend is not some one trying to make a sale. That is a person giving an oportunity to make an educated decision, because she knows that only a person that has done proper research and education can be a good home for her dogs. Now, I say that IS responsible breeding!

I hope this clears some things up for you potential customers of D'Nude's. I again invite any of you serious, potential Crested adopters to contact her and her references yourself before you write this breeder off. If you do not you will be making a mistake. I'm glad that I didn't.

To the person making all these statments, I would like you to know that silence shows wisdom. It was your persistent posting here that made you look slanderous enough for me to even talk to Deborah. Otherwise, I might have passed her up. You did yourself an injustice. I suppose I should thank you!

Get a hobby!

Crested lover, consumer


Maenfarms

Chugiak,
Alaska,
U.S.A.

D'Nude's Professional Handler's Response

#12UPDATE Employee

Fri, September 21, 2007

This report was brought to my attention by my client Ms. Mihalko and I would like to set a few things straight!!

I have known Ms. Mihalko for 6 years and have been showing her dogs the entire length of our aquaintance. Since my first meeting with her I have known Ms. Mihalko to be a knowledgeable and professional breeder. This report disturbs me in that it is ignorantly written about a breeder who's reputation, within her own clientel and fellow breeders, speaks monumentally for its self. To imply that Ms. Mihalko has "dumped" puppies meerly because of them being of an age unfit to sell is ludicrous. I have personally known Ms. Mihaklo to keep puppies well into their first year, or indefinatley, because she was concerned for their well being and would not place them until a suitable home had been found. Ms. Mihalko's breeding practises are above reproach. You need only to look at her web page to see that she is breeding Chinese Cresteds for a love of the breed not to gain monetary affluence. The information included in her site is such that I have not seen in many other breeder's pages. It is infomative and unquestionably shows Ms. Mihalko to be what any person looking for a dog would expect to find of a REPUTABLE breeder.

Ms. Mihalko does indeed show her dogs of which I can attest as I have been the one to handle her dogs to many of their wins!!! She is careful to whom and what she breeds. She does ALL necessary testing and more than adequately socializes her litters. Ms. Mihalko's care of her dogs is almost fanatical in that she does just that...CARE!!! These dogs are like children to Ms. Mihalko. To say that she would dump them off on a rescue is nothing more than a slanderous attempt to degenerate a breeder, whose ethical standards are higher than any other breeder I know. If anyone reading this page wishes further elucidation, I can be reached by my email:
MaenFarms@yahoo.com.

Sincerely,

Jessica L. Nay
Professional Handler


Deborah

Anchorage,
Alaska,
U.S.A.

Another provably truthless slander

#12REBUTTAL Individual responds

Thu, September 20, 2007

Good Lord! Where do some people come from? It was recently brought to my attention that someone else was slandering me by posting here that I had dumped older crested dogs at the pound. That person listed herself as "Carol" and later posted a link to a local Anchorage rescue website http://www.kittyandk-9connection.org/ feautring the dumped dogs. I have never abandoned any dog in my life and often place "retirees" free of charge other than spay/ neuter and shipping so I went to that website, looked at the dogs that I had previously never seen. I recognized thier features immediately as having been produced by a miller in a nearby town that I HELPED to shut down and contacted "Carol" of Kitty And Canine Connection (Her number is listed on the webpage and is being posted now WITH HER PERMISSION: Carol at 345-2096 or kkc.carol@alaska.net or carol@yummychummies.com) I asked her what had possessed her to implicate me in the dumping of animals I had never seen, let alone produced. She was shocked, SAID SHE HAD NEVER HEARD OF "Ripoff Report.Com" let alone posted on it and that she had made no mention of the name of the miller dumping the animals on the organizations website and that she was extremely aware that it WAS NOT me, though I did know who this person as as it was a very publicised mill bust in Alaska newspapers and anyone having anything to do with crested breed rescue, including myself, was invovled in it and cleaning up that mess in some way. Whoever posted the above statements and link to Kitty And Canine Connection AND used the name of Carol, one of the organization heads, did so eroneously and without knowledge from the organization or its members who will openly clear me of any wrongdoing/ dumping of animals and verify that these dogs were neither produced by me nor known to me. This poster, in effect, both slandered me and a GREAT organization dedicated to rescue. Get your facts straight, people, before implicating organizations and placing blame on innocent people without ANY TRUTH WHATSOEVER to back it up!!!!


Carol

Anchorage,
Alaska,
U.S.A.

Look here to see a couple pups she dumped like unwanted trash!!!!

#12Consumer Comment

Thu, September 06, 2007

Check out the pups she dumped here

http://www.kittyandk-9connection.org/

If link does not work, look up

kittyandk-9connenction . org

She dumped two pups because they were too old to sell.


Carol

Anchorage,
Alaska,
U.S.A.

D'nude Breeder dumps older pups at pound

#12Consumer Comment

Thu, September 06, 2007

There are currently two older pups in rescue because they got too old for the breeder Deborah of D'nude Chinese Crested to sell for much profit.

Reputable breeders DO NOT dump their dogs when they have no use for them. Just the heartless ones who only care about making money.

Just LAZY inconsiderate, selfish BYB's do because their dogs are dsposable products!!


Deborah

Anchorage,
Alaska,
U.S.A.

Pointless comment

#12REBUTTAL Individual responds

Tue, February 27, 2007

I SHOW in Alaska because I LIVE in Alaska. The original comment made by a vengeful person who did not get a dog to breed at her whim without showing, made the accusation that I did not SHOW - which I do. I'm sure the many fine sportsmen & women here who show beautiful, well bred dogs, MOST of which live in this state, would take acception to your comment - but that is neither here nor there - as your comment was neither here nor there. Last month I placed a 4 point MAJOR on one of my very DIFINTIELY show quality dogs - and yes - finishing is different than pointing, but you must SHOW to finish OR point a dog which I do - and finishing takes time - it is not an immediate gratification as you seem to imply. Time I am obviously taking and investing into my SHOW animals. This was not an accusation about showing in Alaska - it was an accusation that I did not show which I proved to be a false and vengeful statement. Your statement which bashes all who live and show in Alaska was both rude and completely off topic.


Jennifer

Plain City,
Ohio,
U.S.A.

Fine line between show and pet quality dogs - breeders go to Alaska when they need points!

#12Consumer Suggestion

Tue, February 27, 2007

There is a fine line between show and pet quality dogs. Pointing a dog and finishing a dog are differant issues.
You need points to finish dogs and of those points two have to be major.
You can point a dog - even if it is the only dog of that breed at the show. Show breeders are aware of this and when they need to finish a dog they take them to where the competition is weak, usually states that have low attendance at their shows.


Jennifer

Plain City,
Ohio,
U.S.A.

Fine line between show and pet quality dogs - breeders go to Alaska when they need points!

#12Consumer Suggestion

Tue, February 27, 2007

There is a fine line between show and pet quality dogs. Pointing a dog and finishing a dog are differant issues.
You need points to finish dogs and of those points two have to be major.
You can point a dog - even if it is the only dog of that breed at the show. Show breeders are aware of this and when they need to finish a dog they take them to where the competition is weak, usually states that have low attendance at their shows.


Jennifer

Plain City,
Ohio,
U.S.A.

Fine line between show and pet quality dogs - breeders go to Alaska when they need points!

#12Consumer Suggestion

Tue, February 27, 2007

There is a fine line between show and pet quality dogs. Pointing a dog and finishing a dog are differant issues.
You need points to finish dogs and of those points two have to be major.
You can point a dog - even if it is the only dog of that breed at the show. Show breeders are aware of this and when they need to finish a dog they take them to where the competition is weak, usually states that have low attendance at their shows.


Jennifer

Plain City,
Ohio,
U.S.A.

Fine line between show and pet quality dogs - breeders go to Alaska when they need points!

#12Consumer Suggestion

Tue, February 27, 2007

There is a fine line between show and pet quality dogs. Pointing a dog and finishing a dog are differant issues.
You need points to finish dogs and of those points two have to be major.
You can point a dog - even if it is the only dog of that breed at the show. Show breeders are aware of this and when they need to finish a dog they take them to where the competition is weak, usually states that have low attendance at their shows.


Deborah

Anchorage,
Alaska,
U.S.A.

Rubuttal To Laughable Slander

#12REBUTTAL Individual responds

Mon, February 26, 2007

Your wesbite is currently housing a slanderous and laughably untrue accusation about me posted by Vanessa Mesa, AZ. Vanessa was refused purchase of a show puppy from me due to the fact that she refused to provide adequate assurance that she would indeed show the puppy as agreed after her circumstances (amount of dogs she owned) had changed after orginal purchase agremments had been made. Her deposit was returned. After receipt of her deposit, she went to your website and posted that I was "NOT A SHOW BREEDER" and that none of my dogs were shown or pointed.

This statement is laughable because the puppy Vanessa was interested in was from my VERY FIRST LITTER. She was aware that the parents of said pup, purchased as adults, were NOT SHOWN themselves due to several reasons, lack of early show ring sociliazation being one. A "Show Breeder" is a breeder who breeds primarily to produce dogs for the show ring, as the term implies. Show breeders often breed first for themselves and to create their next show animal and secondly to produce animals for others to show. As not every puppy produced is destined for the show ring due to conformation flaws or to temperments not suited for the large crowds of the show environement - those pups not destined for the ring are placed in loving, permanent homes on spay or neuter agreements only as is considered standard ethics.

I have produced three litters to date - a puppy has been kept or co-owned from each litter and all but the pup from the current litter, who is still too young to show, have not only been SHOWN but POINTED in the AKC conformation ring - in fact, every dog I currently own, wether bred by me or not, with the exception of the youngest, has been shown, some with MAJORS toward their AKC Championships!. (A dog must be 6 months of age to compete in the AKC show ring. The pup kept from our FIRST litter was shown at 6 months to the day of age and went Winners b***h, earning AKC points towards her conformation championship)

A look at my website dnudecresteds.tripod.com or contact with my NUMEROUS references (listed on said website), including my Veterinarian and show handlers, will comfirm this. I have a brags page set up with verifiable show attendance, placement and win information to include a recent show photo in most cases!

this is a false and slanderous statement posted by a vengeful person who did not get to have her way and obtain a high quality animal with the sole purpose of breeding for profit without attempting to better the breed. She has made up this and many other statements, most EXTREMELY embelished with perverse exageration and contradictions.

Again, feel free to verify my statements by contacting any one of my MANY references to include My Veterinarian, Both of my SHOW HANDLERS who assist me in the ring with SHOWING my dogs, my SHOW PUPPY buyers who CO-OWN SHOW PUPPIES with me, as well as companion puppy buyers, stud dog buyers and retiree Buyers (A retiree is a dog who is not being used for show or breeding for any reason, regardless of age and is placed in a companion home free of charge - other than the costs of spaying/ neutering and shipping). And again - my website with information on the beginnings of my kennel, my goals for present and future, verfifiable SHOW information starting with my VERY FIRST LITTER PRODUCED to present with every dog I own being SHOWN and most POINTED and a lengthy Reference page - accesable at dnudecresetds.tripod.com

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