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Complaint Review: Photopoint

Dale Gass Finally Speaks Up - THE PHOTOPOINT RIPOFF! **UPDATE info ..a plan to return photos archived with the service within one or two weeks

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    Tue, January 08, 2002
  • Updated:
    Thu, January 10, 2002

Just read an article stating that Dale Gass has made a statement.Pantellic has stopped operating and is liquidating it's assets. A large amount of their networking equipment was seized by creditors.Bottom line is PhotoPoint owes out a lot of dough 4.7 to 5.5 million.

Supposedly PhotoPoint is working on a way for it's customers to retrieve some of their photos.Once a solution has been found, members will be emailed and an announcement made at PhotoPoint.com

Don't get your hopes to high on this, seeing how a lot of their equipment has been seized and no longer in their possession. But something I guess is better than nothing.

2 Updates & Rebuttals


PhotoPoint parent shutters operations ..a plan to return photos archived with the service within one or two weeks

#30

Thu, January 10, 2002

PhotoPoint parent shutters operations

By Gwendolyn Mariano

Staff Writer, CNET News.com

January 7, 2002, 2:35 p.m. PT



http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-8398159.html?tag=prntfr



The parent of online photo site PhotoPoint.com shut down last month and is liquidating its assets, but it expects to announce a plan to return photos archived with the service within one or two weeks, the company's president said Monday.



"While Pantellic has ceased operations, we are actively working on a solution for people to get copies of their photos," Pantellic President Dale Gass wrote in an e-mail. "There will be an announcement at www.photopoint.com, and members will be notified via e-mail when this is available."



Gass' statement is a rare public communication from privately held Pantellic since the PhotoPoint site was pulled down without notice in mid-December. The shutdown left some 1.25 million PhotoPoint members in the dark about the status of their accounts and personal files, offering a cautionary tale of the evanescent nature of business in cyberspace.



For the past several weeks, numerous PhotoPoint customers have complained of the outage in e-mails to CNET News.com, including some who said they had not made backups of their photo files.



"I was one of their paying customers and have now lost about two years worth of pictures that I had on their albums for storage," one reader wrote to CNET News.com. "I did not have any backup copies because I thought that was what I was paying for...These are pictures that cannot be replaced. They are that of my grandchildren, kids, parties, vacations, and the construction of our house. I am heartsick about it."



According to Gass, Pantellic has been unable to communicate with its customers since a "substantial amount" of its networking equipment was seized on the day the Halifax, Nova Scotia-based company ceased operations.



In a letter to Pantellic creditors, the company said it closed Dec. 14 and had asked creditors to make arrangements to retrieve its equipment. It was unclear how much equipment had been claimed or how the liquidation would affect the company's ability to preserve data formerly in its possession.



The letter, dated Dec. 31, warned creditors that equipment they take possession of "may contain data or intellectual property secured by another creditor."



The company said it expects to have outstanding debts between $4.7 million and $5.5 million and no assets of any substantial value after secured creditors reclaim its property. As a result, the company does not "anticipate that there will be any return to unsecured creditors," the letter said.



Asked in an e-mail about the physical whereabouts of its equipment, Gass replied that he was "not really at liberty" to answer.



The demise of PhotoPoint comes as the online photo market is shrinking, leaving only the strongest players on the field. In June, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers-backed Zing.com closed its consumer operations. That same month, Ofoto was swept up by Eastman Kodak. And in October, mail-order processor District Photo bought online photo company Snapfish.



For its part, PhotoPoint has been passed around like a hot potato. Pantellic spun the company off about two years ago and scored around $11 million in venture capital financing for the start-up. But venture capital firm Sherwood Partners shut it down and sold some of the assets back to Pantellic in July. After a five-day outage, the site returned but began charging for its services.



Gass said Pantellic took all good faith measures possible to try and keep the PhotoPoint site alive, but in the end, he blamed bandwidth costs and the effects of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in driving the service out of business. He said the company stopped charging credit cards, cashing checks, and taking print orders from "the instant we knew our viability was threatened."



He added that the company only belatedly realized that some of its customers were relying on it as the sole keeper of treasured photos.



"While we always intended PhotoPoint to be a means for people to share their photos, and not a photo archival service, we now realize that some people kept their only copies of their photos on the site," he said.


We'd like to know where the article is published

#30

Wed, January 09, 2002

They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:



Their email: bearyhot@mailcity.com



Their relationship to the company: Consumer Suggestion



Rebuttal:

We'd like to know where the article is published, so that we can read it for ourselves. I wouldn't bet my life on getting ANYTHING back from Photopoint. I'll make aa public apology for ALL of my remarks regarding this horrible fiasco, if I even get as much as a letter from them. Don't hold your breath people. Shut up Semper Fi guy, I don't want to hear it, you're just a complete dork, and no one cares about your viewpoint here

anyway.

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