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David Gates ripoff misleading BS SCAM Cliffside Park New Jersey
This m**o David Gates is an SOB. Talking about filling out a simple piece of paper and be on my way to wealth. Had me fooled. In the magazine HBC (Home Business Connection), I came upon his ad and thought it was legit without doing any investigation on it. Boy was I wrong.
When I received the package, I was in for a long ride. His piece of paper wasn't there. What he said about publisher's giving away massive amounts of money wasn't there. What was there though was the list of books that he wanted to sell and the ads that he suggested upon costing anywhere from a thousand to five thousand dollars. Who the hell has that kind of money? And those books, expensive!!!!!!
This David Gates needs to be out out of business. This is BS! Anyone reading this, don't buy into his publisher giving away money crap. NOTHING BUT BS!!!!!
david gates = BS!!!!
Chris
Sacramento, California
U.S.A.
17 Updates & Rebuttals
David
Cliffside Park,New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Concerned?
#18REBUTTAL Owner of company
Sat, May 24, 2008
You say you're "concerned" about the reports you see here? What could possibly concern you? In this series of worthless postings, all of which we replied to, the one thing that does not get mentioned, is that in 22 years we do not have one legitimate complaint against our program. Instead, just a small number of internet landmines carefully plotted to sabotage our fine company as stated elsewhere. Perhaps there are more worthwhile matters to "concern" you.
Joseph Ratliff
Ocean Shores,Washington,
U.S.A.
David, I have concerns, and since you have "great customer service", prove it!
#18Consumer Comment
Fri, April 11, 2008
David,
I am a marketer myself. I have not yet purchased your program.
I do invest in these programs, so as to provide an honest and fair review on my business products review site or my blog.
I also like to analyze marketing processes, and yours seems to be highly regarded and publicized in magazines...
Except what is posted here on Rip Off Report. I have to admit, these negative reports concern me a great deal, for a program and owner that waves the "we have the greatest customer service in the world" flag.
Since you seem to hold to your excellent, albeit unproven to me, service record in each of these responses...or using the "these posters are my competitors" response...
Let's see if you will put your "excellent service record" money where your mouth is...
Your $35 - 45 program is a marketing lead generation tool with some information, which I understand, but it could be given an honest review...if you are so willing.
Let me know.
Wendy
Spokane,Washington,
U.S.A.
Scam claims
#18Consumer Comment
Fri, December 15, 2006
Im not saying I agree with David. The man who runs this business. All Im asking is why does it seem like each of the people who are making claims against him have not bought the program and all have the same horrible spelling and wording techniques? All the claims against him seem VERY similar and the person or people who post them can not spell and dont use wording correctly. To me, an unbiased reader, who is just researching this business before I make a decision wether or not to invest in it, those claims seem to be from the same uneducated person or people. I also must give "David" accolades for actually responding to these accusations. Other companies I have researched today have not done that. I may even invest in his program, but Im not sure yet. Still have to do more research. Thank You
Wendy
David
CLIFFSIDE PARK,New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Think before you write
#18UPDATE Employee
Fri, August 18, 2006
We shouldnt even waste our time with these absurd posts. Obviously, everyone who orders our program receives it, and OBVIOUSLY, everyone who requests a refund receives it. Otherwise, we would have been out of business a long time ago. All the necessary contact information is provided to our customers, and we have never had a problem resulting from communication. When you say we're taking off with $30 after all the years we've been in business, we say.....use your head and smarten up. It's such a false, and ludicrous accusation that it's not worth acknowledging. We should be clear that you aren't even a customer of ours.
Bart
Anchorage,Alaska,
U.S.A.
David Gates Please Make Me Rich
#18Consumer Comment
Sun, August 13, 2006
I have read the several reports listed here about your business and really wonder if it is real or not.
The only reply you made was to say that one of the complainers was a competitor and therefore his tale was a lie.
With hard times in our beloved country due to corporate US out outsourceing jobs and laying off thousands of people, it is understandable that they are all looking for some alternative way to support their family. Why in the world would you be out to scam the average joe out of $30.
I realize that you offer this unbelieveable refund policy, but at the same time, offer no phone number to call you, no street address ( only a mail box ) and a lack of backup on the claims that you make about being number one Consumer Rated program of its kind. Who rated you this.
It is small wonder that a lot of people are afraid of getting scammed out of their $30. Most of the time it is not the money. It is the same feeling that you get when the vending machine takes your $.50 and gives you nothing in return. HELPLESS!! You want to rip up the machine and I am sure that is how most people feel about a program that does not actually turn our to be as represented. It is true that I have not pruchased your program, but a wise man told me long ago "where there is smoke there is fire". There is a lot of smoke in print about you not presenting a true money making program and simply scamming folks out of their $30.
Would you be willing to be a little a more open with you availability and contact information if someone has questions. Why be so reach? If you were, I as well as a lot of people might be willing to join your program if it truly works.
Willie
Yonkers,New York,
U.S.A.
BOGUS COMPLAINTS!
#18UPDATE Employee
Tue, August 01, 2006
Ask yourself this question....With all the years David Gates has existed and the thousands of customers who have purchased our program, doesnt it seem odd that the only postings found on the Rip-Off report are from people who have NOT purchased our program?? This is how we know that they are secretly our competitors. After many, many years and thousands of satisfied customers, we will not stand by while people like these, who have NEVER even looked at our program, much less purchased it, file these accustaions.
Both Tracie of Oklahoma, and Mark of Bend, Oregon are NOT customers, and therefore are simply writing unfounded nonsense. It's as simple as this....If we weren't selling a truly valuable, worthwhile, success-making program, you would see dozens, if not hundreds of REAL COMPLAINTS, not these phonies. Order our materials with the full knowledge that you are protected by our refund policies, and ignore the blatant lies you see here.
Avrohom
Brooklyn,New York,
U.S.A.
I also fell for it
#18Consumer Comment
Mon, December 05, 2005
I already filed a rip of report.Here is a link to my report.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff158790.htm
As you can see,he gave me the same response.Then I updated the report,but he has yet to respond to my update.
I complained to the BBB,and I got a letter from him stating that,I did not understand the money back guarantee and anyone who asks for a refund will get it.
The guarantee states that if within 90 days,I have not made the money he's described,I should return the system,and I'll be refunded with a personal check for $2500,or 2 times the amount of the highest refund offer of another program,whichever is higher.That makes it sound like I can't get a refund unless I try out the program.I havent bothered to ask for a refund,because I did'nt try out the program,so I thought that I would not recieve a refund.
Anyway,I sent him back a letter with the my addreess,so he can send me back the money,and he wrote back to me stating that,he wants a photocopy of of my check or m.o.,and to make sure it shows clearly his endorsement on the back.
I am currently getting a photocopy of my check,and if I will update what happens in my rip off report.
Mark
Bend, OR,California,
U.S.A.
Am I really reading this?
#18Consumer Comment
Tue, November 22, 2005
Ok... I just read another Rip-off report on this guy, and he had the EXACT same response word for word (Can you say copy and paste?) to this lady, who has admitted she has NEVER EVEN bought his "produduct"... but yet she's just "posing" as a customer? And you keep talking about how everyone is either a "competitor" or an "ex-employee" (Can he be more original?), but yet I have one of your ads right here next to me, and it seems all you're really doing is boasting about how you HAVE NO COMPETITORS! In fact you gave a qoute from a book and an author (Which I have tried really hard to find any information on but have came up with no luck... wonder why?) on the front that goes exactly like this "Laurance Brooks, Author: 'Directions to Easy Street': 'David Gates has NO competition. You MUST have this program." Isn't it just a little strange... (1) you obviously don't pay any real attention to "customers" considering you just copy and paste a response that isn't even relavent to what the person was saying... I truly believe that is just an expression of how much you really care about, and are concerned about your customers needs and concerns, even though she wasn't even a customer, you just blew here off as "posing" as one, without even reading what she had to say. (2) You Accuse everyone of being competitors posing as customers, when in your ad you make it clear that you 'have no competitors'. In your ad you make it seem like you've discovered this gold-mine that no one else knows about and your the only one exposing this... with "no compitition". But these compititors which you - in you ad - denied even existed, are on here "posing as customers" maybe in you mind the customer really does'nt exist... they're just a bunch of big fat wallets walking around. (3) You also claim that you are the "#1 Rated customer-rated program of it's kind" in you ad... but you give no references for that claim... why? Maybe you thought they would actually look it up like I looked up your BS author? ANY company who has worked hard enough to become the "#1 Customer-Rated program of it's kind" would be pretty quick to give out the reference for it you know like "home-buisiness awards 2003" or "Washington Times" "Home buisiness magazine" whatever... But no David Gates's gives absolutly NO references to back up that claim, other then a couple of "certified testimonials" by "customers... WHICH HE ALSO CAN NOT CERTIFY! (4) and finnaly what about that author? Laurance Brooks? Does she even exist? why can't I find anything on her book "Directions To Easy Street" that you "qouted" from? Or why can't I find anything on her PERIOD! Maybe I havent looked hard enough, nothing on yahoo, nothing on askjeeves nothing on barnes and nobles, nothing on amazon, maybe she's just really underground? whatever the case is, if anyone else can find any proof that she even exists, I urge you to post it on this report. But me personally... I have been thouroughly convinced you are a SCAM! OH YEAH... and (5) You still havent tried to rebuke any claims all you're doing is getting people to sell YOUR books, not some "secret goldmine" in the publishing industry that you've "discovered". Greedy fruads like Yamaka wearing David here need to go straight to prison where they belong.
Mark
Bend, OR,California,
U.S.A.
Am I really reading this?
#18Consumer Comment
Tue, November 22, 2005
Ok... I just read another Rip-off report on this guy, and he had the EXACT same response word for word (Can you say copy and paste?) to this lady, who has admitted she has NEVER EVEN bought his "produduct"... but yet she's just "posing" as a customer? And you keep talking about how everyone is either a "competitor" or an "ex-employee" (Can he be more original?), but yet I have one of your ads right here next to me, and it seems all you're really doing is boasting about how you HAVE NO COMPETITORS! In fact you gave a qoute from a book and an author (Which I have tried really hard to find any information on but have came up with no luck... wonder why?) on the front that goes exactly like this "Laurance Brooks, Author: 'Directions to Easy Street': 'David Gates has NO competition. You MUST have this program." Isn't it just a little strange... (1) you obviously don't pay any real attention to "customers" considering you just copy and paste a response that isn't even relavent to what the person was saying... I truly believe that is just an expression of how much you really care about, and are concerned about your customers needs and concerns, even though she wasn't even a customer, you just blew here off as "posing" as one, without even reading what she had to say. (2) You Accuse everyone of being competitors posing as customers, when in your ad you make it clear that you 'have no competitors'. In your ad you make it seem like you've discovered this gold-mine that no one else knows about and your the only one exposing this... with "no compitition". But these compititors which you - in you ad - denied even existed, are on here "posing as customers" maybe in you mind the customer really does'nt exist... they're just a bunch of big fat wallets walking around. (3) You also claim that you are the "#1 Rated customer-rated program of it's kind" in you ad... but you give no references for that claim... why? Maybe you thought they would actually look it up like I looked up your BS author? ANY company who has worked hard enough to become the "#1 Customer-Rated program of it's kind" would be pretty quick to give out the reference for it you know like "home-buisiness awards 2003" or "Washington Times" "Home buisiness magazine" whatever... But no David Gates's gives absolutly NO references to back up that claim, other then a couple of "certified testimonials" by "customers... WHICH HE ALSO CAN NOT CERTIFY! (4) and finnaly what about that author? Laurance Brooks? Does she even exist? why can't I find anything on her book "Directions To Easy Street" that you "qouted" from? Or why can't I find anything on her PERIOD! Maybe I havent looked hard enough, nothing on yahoo, nothing on askjeeves nothing on barnes and nobles, nothing on amazon, maybe she's just really underground? whatever the case is, if anyone else can find any proof that she even exists, I urge you to post it on this report. But me personally... I have been thouroughly convinced you are a SCAM! OH YEAH... and (5) You still havent tried to rebuke any claims all you're doing is getting people to sell YOUR books, not some "secret goldmine" in the publishing industry that you've "discovered". Greedy fruads like Yamaka wearing David here need to go straight to prison where they belong.
Mark
Bend, OR,California,
U.S.A.
Am I really reading this?
#18Consumer Comment
Tue, November 22, 2005
Ok... I just read another Rip-off report on this guy, and he had the EXACT same response word for word (Can you say copy and paste?) to this lady, who has admitted she has NEVER EVEN bought his "produduct"... but yet she's just "posing" as a customer? And you keep talking about how everyone is either a "competitor" or an "ex-employee" (Can he be more original?), but yet I have one of your ads right here next to me, and it seems all you're really doing is boasting about how you HAVE NO COMPETITORS! In fact you gave a qoute from a book and an author (Which I have tried really hard to find any information on but have came up with no luck... wonder why?) on the front that goes exactly like this "Laurance Brooks, Author: 'Directions to Easy Street': 'David Gates has NO competition. You MUST have this program." Isn't it just a little strange... (1) you obviously don't pay any real attention to "customers" considering you just copy and paste a response that isn't even relavent to what the person was saying... I truly believe that is just an expression of how much you really care about, and are concerned about your customers needs and concerns, even though she wasn't even a customer, you just blew here off as "posing" as one, without even reading what she had to say. (2) You Accuse everyone of being competitors posing as customers, when in your ad you make it clear that you 'have no competitors'. In your ad you make it seem like you've discovered this gold-mine that no one else knows about and your the only one exposing this... with "no compitition". But these compititors which you - in you ad - denied even existed, are on here "posing as customers" maybe in you mind the customer really does'nt exist... they're just a bunch of big fat wallets walking around. (3) You also claim that you are the "#1 Rated customer-rated program of it's kind" in you ad... but you give no references for that claim... why? Maybe you thought they would actually look it up like I looked up your BS author? ANY company who has worked hard enough to become the "#1 Customer-Rated program of it's kind" would be pretty quick to give out the reference for it you know like "home-buisiness awards 2003" or "Washington Times" "Home buisiness magazine" whatever... But no David Gates's gives absolutly NO references to back up that claim, other then a couple of "certified testimonials" by "customers... WHICH HE ALSO CAN NOT CERTIFY! (4) and finnaly what about that author? Laurance Brooks? Does she even exist? why can't I find anything on her book "Directions To Easy Street" that you "qouted" from? Or why can't I find anything on her PERIOD! Maybe I havent looked hard enough, nothing on yahoo, nothing on askjeeves nothing on barnes and nobles, nothing on amazon, maybe she's just really underground? whatever the case is, if anyone else can find any proof that she even exists, I urge you to post it on this report. But me personally... I have been thouroughly convinced you are a SCAM! OH YEAH... and (5) You still havent tried to rebuke any claims all you're doing is getting people to sell YOUR books, not some "secret goldmine" in the publishing industry that you've "discovered". Greedy fruads like Yamaka wearing David here need to go straight to prison where they belong.
Mark
Bend, OR,California,
U.S.A.
Am I really reading this?
#18Consumer Comment
Tue, November 22, 2005
Ok... I just read another Rip-off report on this guy, and he had the EXACT same response word for word (Can you say copy and paste?) to this lady, who has admitted she has NEVER EVEN bought his "produduct"... but yet she's just "posing" as a customer? And you keep talking about how everyone is either a "competitor" or an "ex-employee" (Can he be more original?), but yet I have one of your ads right here next to me, and it seems all you're really doing is boasting about how you HAVE NO COMPETITORS! In fact you gave a qoute from a book and an author (Which I have tried really hard to find any information on but have came up with no luck... wonder why?) on the front that goes exactly like this "Laurance Brooks, Author: 'Directions to Easy Street': 'David Gates has NO competition. You MUST have this program." Isn't it just a little strange... (1) you obviously don't pay any real attention to "customers" considering you just copy and paste a response that isn't even relavent to what the person was saying... I truly believe that is just an expression of how much you really care about, and are concerned about your customers needs and concerns, even though she wasn't even a customer, you just blew here off as "posing" as one, without even reading what she had to say. (2) You Accuse everyone of being competitors posing as customers, when in your ad you make it clear that you 'have no competitors'. In your ad you make it seem like you've discovered this gold-mine that no one else knows about and your the only one exposing this... with "no compitition". But these compititors which you - in you ad - denied even existed, are on here "posing as customers" maybe in you mind the customer really does'nt exist... they're just a bunch of big fat wallets walking around. (3) You also claim that you are the "#1 Rated customer-rated program of it's kind" in you ad... but you give no references for that claim... why? Maybe you thought they would actually look it up like I looked up your BS author? ANY company who has worked hard enough to become the "#1 Customer-Rated program of it's kind" would be pretty quick to give out the reference for it you know like "home-buisiness awards 2003" or "Washington Times" "Home buisiness magazine" whatever... But no David Gates's gives absolutly NO references to back up that claim, other then a couple of "certified testimonials" by "customers... WHICH HE ALSO CAN NOT CERTIFY! (4) and finnaly what about that author? Laurance Brooks? Does she even exist? why can't I find anything on her book "Directions To Easy Street" that you "qouted" from? Or why can't I find anything on her PERIOD! Maybe I havent looked hard enough, nothing on yahoo, nothing on askjeeves nothing on barnes and nobles, nothing on amazon, maybe she's just really underground? whatever the case is, if anyone else can find any proof that she even exists, I urge you to post it on this report. But me personally... I have been thouroughly convinced you are a SCAM! OH YEAH... and (5) You still havent tried to rebuke any claims all you're doing is getting people to sell YOUR books, not some "secret goldmine" in the publishing industry that you've "discovered". Greedy fruads like Yamaka wearing David here need to go straight to prison where they belong.
David
CLIFFSIDE PARK,New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Absolute nonsense!
#18UPDATE Employee
Tue, October 18, 2005
With thousands and thousands of satisfied customers, it's clear that this report along with the others is bogus and is being perpetrated by our competition. David Gates is the most genuine and fair program on the market. It is a true opportunity to profit, unlike all of the scams out there. No other company treats their customers better. Every single person who has ever asked for a refund has received it, period. Don't be fooled by this con-artist posing as a customer. If this were a genuine customer, clearly they would have returned our product and asked to be refunded, avoiding this filing. That hasn't happened because this is a desperate competitor, not one of our customers. Unfortunately, the Rip-Off report is going the way of the BBB.....a useless waste of a website, weighed down with fraudulent accusations like this one.
David
CLIFFSIDE PARK,New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Absolute nonsense!
#18UPDATE Employee
Tue, October 18, 2005
With thousands and thousands of satisfied customers, it's clear that this report along with the others is bogus and is being perpetrated by our competition. David Gates is the most genuine and fair program on the market. It is a true opportunity to profit, unlike all of the scams out there. No other company treats their customers better. Every single person who has ever asked for a refund has received it, period. Don't be fooled by this con-artist posing as a customer. If this were a genuine customer, clearly they would have returned our product and asked to be refunded, avoiding this filing. That hasn't happened because this is a desperate competitor, not one of our customers. Unfortunately, the Rip-Off report is going the way of the BBB.....a useless waste of a website, weighed down with fraudulent accusations like this one.
David
CLIFFSIDE PARK,New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Absolute nonsense!
#18UPDATE Employee
Tue, October 18, 2005
With thousands and thousands of satisfied customers, it's clear that this report along with the others is bogus and is being perpetrated by our competition. David Gates is the most genuine and fair program on the market. It is a true opportunity to profit, unlike all of the scams out there. No other company treats their customers better. Every single person who has ever asked for a refund has received it, period. Don't be fooled by this con-artist posing as a customer. If this were a genuine customer, clearly they would have returned our product and asked to be refunded, avoiding this filing. That hasn't happened because this is a desperate competitor, not one of our customers. Unfortunately, the Rip-Off report is going the way of the BBB.....a useless waste of a website, weighed down with fraudulent accusations like this one.
David
CLIFFSIDE PARK,New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Absolute nonsense!
#18UPDATE Employee
Tue, October 18, 2005
With thousands and thousands of satisfied customers, it's clear that this report along with the others is bogus and is being perpetrated by our competition. David Gates is the most genuine and fair program on the market. It is a true opportunity to profit, unlike all of the scams out there. No other company treats their customers better. Every single person who has ever asked for a refund has received it, period. Don't be fooled by this con-artist posing as a customer. If this were a genuine customer, clearly they would have returned our product and asked to be refunded, avoiding this filing. That hasn't happened because this is a desperate competitor, not one of our customers. Unfortunately, the Rip-Off report is going the way of the BBB.....a useless waste of a website, weighed down with fraudulent accusations like this one.
Tracie
Bethany,Oklahoma,
U.S.A.
It's hard to believe
#18Consumer Comment
Wed, July 27, 2005
I have to go with the idea that it is a scam. I have been looking for a honest, solid, Home Based business, or work and have yet to find one. The reason being is because of offers like yours. I always hear if you have to send any money for the info to start a business it is a scam. It seems as if as it says in HBC you are willing to refund money to anyone who does not have success in 90 days, and willing to refund people up to $2500 (even harder to believe) you don't have a lot of business smarts to begin with. Unless it is all a SCAM!? With just the little bit of business smarts that I have, would it not make more money sence to send out your info for free including the shiping, and if a person does not make any money in 90 days you will pay the cost to mail it back. All I can figure is you are making big bucks off of hard working people who believe that sending you $25 or $30 bucks will end their money problems. I don't know what kind of paper or form will get a person big bucks, or what all the books are that you send out, but I will make you an offer. You ship me, for free, all your info, and products, plus a check for $2500 (I may need it to suplement my current income while I take some time off to get through all of your info, and books) and If I don't make any money off of your products or ideas, I will pay to mail it all back to you. I get to keep the $2500, because I would have rceived it anyway RIGHT? And all you are out it the money to ship your stuff to me. If I do make a go of what you are offering, after I make my first $5000.00 I will send you your $2500 back. WoW what an offer! This will give you a chance to clear your good name from rip off report, I will even get on here again and promote you, your company, all your good ideas, and clear your name. How can this not work in your favor? I think it is a win win for all of us! All you would be out is the cost of mailing me your stuff, and I know that is probably less then the $25 or $30 you are asking up front. Besides you don't need my $25 or $30 bucks, your loaded right? And as far as the $2500 you risked being out that anyway. So instead of me wasting (maybe) the upfront money, and then waiting for someone who is loaded to cut me a $2500 check, which I could use now, and you probably would not miss, I get it now and if I make a go of your offer you get it back. You are the one who can afford to wait on the $2500 right? Ok, I know by now you must me sold on my great idea, so lets get the ball going. Help me make a good living, and I will help you clear your name! Please feel free to e-mail me with how and when we can get started. Thanks for your time
David
Cliffside Park,New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Absolute nonsense!
#18UPDATE Employee
Thu, May 19, 2005
This person is known to be an employee of one of our chief competitors, meaning the statement is worthless. The posting is biased and bogus. We have been in business since the 1980's and have a perfect BBB record, and thousands of satisfied customers. We also refund every person who asks for it, allowing everyone to feel safe and secure when purchasing our program. It is impossible to lose with the David Gates program. We appreciate our customers and treat everyone with respect and courtesy. The posting above is absolute nonsense.