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Complaint Review: Devi Rathod Hardesty - Hanover Equestrian Centre

Devi Rathod Hardesty - Hanover Equestrian Centre crazy barn owner, ripoff Hanover Pennsylvania

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    hanover Pennsylvania
  • Submitted:
    Tue, December 13, 2005
  • Updated:
    Sun, March 26, 2006
  • Devi Rathod Hardesty - Hanover Equestrian Centre
    3949 Smoketown Rd.
    Hanover, Pennsylvania
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    717-2299883
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I was interested in full-care boarding of my 10year old QH in the southern PA, northern Md area so I researched several barns online and made appointments to visit several. The very 1st place I visited was Hanover equestrian centre, owned by this lady Devi. Her website looked pretty professional and it says she has 30 years expierience in dressage and that she is also a biomedical engineer and has degrees in biology and physics. She also said she was a medical doctor. So needless to say it sounded as though she was an intelligent, educated over-achieving horse lover. Well I went to the barn and was supposed to meet with the barn manager but the lady devi met me instead.

She explained to me that she had just fired her former manager for non-payment and "animal cruelty". She went on to say that her former manager did not care for the horses properly and did not care for the facility. Some red flags went up because the facility was probaly the nicest I had seen. The red flags continued when she continually trashed all of her previous managers saying she has gone through several in recent times. I asked how many managers she had to fire. She told me the new manager would be the 3rd. That didn't sound to bad until later I discovered she hadn't been in the barn for more than 7 months!

I had already decided not to board at her barn when she told me "If you are concerned that no one will be here to care for your horse dont worry because My husband daughter and I live on the premises". I asked where and she told me "right here above the stalls" I am not kidding they live in the barn!! Her husband was then coming home from work I guess. He opened his truck door and I could smell booze big time. He had obviously been drinking and driving in the middle of the day. He walked past us without even making Eye contact. Awkward!

I was very embarrassed for devi so I kind of acted like everything was cool. To say the least this was a weird visit for me. I told Devi I would think about boarding my horse and would call her. On my way out I went to pet the dog who was chained up out front but the dog smelled so bad and his hair was so matted it looked like it was miserable. When I was checking out the dog Devi came out of nowhere and said that it was her husbands responsibillity to care for the dog. She was obviously hiding something.

I simply wanted to warn future boarders at Hanover Equestrian Centre that they would be better off going elsewhere. I would like to invite anyone to visit this barn if you dont believe me. Trust me, Check-out that Devi ladies 'crazy eye's' and there house above the stalls. Also I forgot to mention that John's hopkins has no record of a Dr. devi rathod-hardesty

Jonas
hanover, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.

27 Updates & Rebuttals


Cathy

Columbia,
Maryland,
U.S.A.

Devi is not crazy, but Amanda and her family are.

#28Consumer Suggestion

Sun, March 26, 2006

I feel sorry for Amanda's brother. Devi says she saw him once or twice and he seemed really quiet and didn't say much, and that Amanda said to everybody that her brother always has drug problems. What I don't understand is how he could go around helping her lie about somebody as kind as Devi when HE KNEW what kind of person his sister really is. Amanda probably bribed him with something that he needed.

I guess Amanda forgot to tell John about all of the things that SHE was posting about Devi. He should stop by her lawyer's one day to see the file.

I wonder how John can say that "Devi seems a little crazy?" He didn't talk to anyone when he was at the barn (where Amanda used/suckered him into doing some work for her). Is it because she wears her husband's old clothes when she works in the barn? I, for one, wish he would elaborate, because I know her and she is cool.

There was never anything in her arena, she had things on the concrete pad outside of the rail next to the storage area. They had recently moved there. When Amanda and her brother piled things in the storage area, that was when Amanda STARTED leasing Devi's place, not at the end. The things that were stolen were all taken way after the storage area was filled up on the day that Amanda left, and those things are NOT in the storage area. The couple who helped Amanda move said that Amanda took all of the water buckets, feed buckets, and lead ropes when she left. People from the barn have been back in that storage room AND up in the storage loft after Amanda left, and the stolen items were not found. There goes THAT theory. Why would her brother believe her afer what he says she is like, anyway?

John shows lack of life experience when he does not consider why things might not get unpacked and put away when somebody moves into a new place. Think about it. The woman (Devi) is an engineer who travels all of the time, she sits on a couple of different boards and panels, she has a kid and a husband at home to care for, she teaches at her barn and at Emerald Hills on the weekend, she does volunteer work, and she rides and grooms her horses. I know people that do a lot less and still have things packed over a year after moving! All of this AND she started up a new business/barn. She had three deaths in her family over the last year, too. Amanda had an opportunity for a career, which she seriously continues to screw up. Instead she and her brother go around whining because they helped to organize things in the barn.

Devi always had a problem enforcing the helmet rule when Amanda was there. Why would Amanda care if Devi got sued by somebody who cracked their head open? I saw Amanda let people ride without helmets on.

Amanda doesn't initially get on the horses she sells because she is afraid and not a very good rider. She acts like she is this great rider, but she puts everybody else up, including children, on a new horse first. She gets on only after she sees what the horse acts like with other people.

Now it makes sense why the Jonas, John, and Amanda all sound alike. Because Amanda has helped create these accounts and either writes them or helps write them all from the computer at her house.

I feel sorry for her brother, but he keeps falling for it and helping her lie and hurt other people, so much of his misery is his own doing.

Oh, for everyone's information, I am one of Devi's freinds who has been at Devi's barn many times, and my name is Cathy. I live in Maryland. I've known Devi since 1995.


Holly

Chandler,
Arizona,
U.S.A.

She's Baaack!

#28Consumer Comment

Wed, March 15, 2006

I thought the Amanda thing was dead! Hadn't heard from anyone in awhile. Now we have the infamous Jonas posting again. The saga continues! But now he says he is in fact Amanda's brother and was helping her retaliate against everyone. So this whole time Amanda claimed she didn't know Jonas, while Jonas continued to attack anyone (myself included) who posted a comment about her. Now that he's come clean, who's this John character? He sounds like another Jonas. The threats are quite extreme, like Jonas's, so I'm assuming it's Amanda again. If she was posting as Jonas with the help of her brother, couldn't John just be anther username she created? This is the first time reading this thread (I've read the others) so if someone could fill me in as to who John is, I would appreciate it.


John

Your Mama,
Maryland,
U.S.A.

you really got it coming to you

#28REBUTTAL Individual responds

Wed, March 15, 2006

Listen up wierdo, I don't know where you get off acting like you're me. If you're me than whats my favorite color?

Its green, and I'm gonna see a lot of it after I sue your a*s. I'm gonna sue you so bad you're gonna have to sell all your "how to be a navy seal" books and your p***s pump. You can keep the blow-up doll, I know shes your only friend.

First off, Amanda's rat did die. Shes not rotting in her cage because I buried her. You have obviously driven by amandas house and saw the cage on her porch. The only way you knew it was a rat is that you've been in the house, or you've been reading my blog's. The rat rotting in the cage blog was made up and a joke. I can show you her grave in my sister's garden, thats if you werent such a p***y whos afraid to show their face.

Everyone in my family knows Amanda used to live in parkton, not prettyboy. Prettyboy might show up on mapquest, but everyone calls it parkton.

In my blogs I talk about smoking weed in highschool, that makes me a drud addict right? If you're such a cia agent, why don't you look up my record and see if I have ever been arrested for drugs. I can't imagine a junky never being arrested for drugs.

If you were smart you would have read my blog from last nite where I say I'm going out with my brother for his birthday, which we did. I only mentioned last week my brother's birthday was coming up. You messed up special forces.

Now I can't remember the other crap you wrote, Oh, for the record My sister barely watches tv. When she does watch tv its animal planet or tvg. Could'nt your cia buddies get you amanda's tv schedule. You are the biggest wierdo/loser to ever own a computer.

Do me a favor, forget I ever metioned you in my blog. I said it was commendable for someone to defend my sister. That obviosly fueled you. When I wrote about wannabe special forces I was'nt writing about you, you may have been an inspiration but it was meant to be funny, not real. You probably felt I betrayed you, how could I betray you when I don't give a dead rat's a*s about you :-( HA

Now since you like my writing so much, check out what I write about YOU today. I would love to tear you a new one. You post under a psuedonym, whereas I post as me. I don't think you have ever even commented on my blogs. I'm not sure but I have never detected crazy military channel watchin, my sister stalking people on my blog.

You are a loser and I will spell it out in plain english. I would wear you out on ripoff report, but half of it would'nt be posted because the guy that runs it would'nt want to be responsible for your suicide.


Jonas

Hanover,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

Amanda is jonas, so am I

#28Author of original report

Wed, March 15, 2006

This is john roche, amanda matricciani's brother. Amanda has done some really f--ked up s**t to me in my life and many others also. She is truly a vindictive, petty b***h.

When she lived in prettyboy she boarded with some crackhead at her house. Granted the lady was a total piece of crap, she didn't deserve mandy's wrath. She dicked my sister out of like a hundred bucks and kicked mandy of her farm. I don't know the particulars, but I'm sure you have to do something pretty messed up to get kicked off a crackhead's farm. Anyway mandy wanted me to get her back somehow. She worked out aplan to poison the ladie's horse with some kind of plant that grows pretty commonly around maryland. She found out about it when she worked on a flower farm when she was younger. She had it all worked out, from when the best time to do it, and how to administer the poison. Now you have to understand I would rather hurt a human, not a stupid innocent animal. I simply told her how crazy it was and we left it at that.

That's just the tip of the iceberg. She has screwed everyone that I know she has dealt with. She is seriously unstable and skewed. I will only write about things that I have firsthand knowledge of.

Now onto Jonas. Mandy was telling me about devi posting stuff about her and how mad it made her. She wanted to get back at her so we made up jonas. Everything written was me writing. I took part because it was fun, but really because I believed mandy when she said devi was lying. I have met devi and she does seem a little crazy, but I don't really know. I do know Amanda did do a lot of work at devi's barn, I even helped mandy clear a lot of junk from the arena. I mean like a whole families worthless crap that was sitting on the arena floor in the back. I write this because devi said stuff was missing, I'm one hundred percent positive its back in that back room. We stacked stuff to the ceiling, literally.

Now, you may wonder why I'm writing this. I'm writing this because I have let mandy use and manipulate me for the last time. I'm not Mr. Perfect by any strech, but it makes me sick that her and I share the same gene pool. I am basically a loser, but I really like to help people, mandy likes to hurt them if they get in her way. She is exactly like one of those bitter evil woman on soap operas. Her favorite shows are those investigation shows where the gold-digging wife kills the rich husband. She loves them. I am very glad her exhusband got out with his life and his money. Now he turned out to be a total wierdo loser, but that does'nt matter if your family has money I guess. Mandy used to tell me how much she wanted him to commit suicide. Lovely girl, really.

Now I could write pages of this but first I want to predict mandy's rebuttal. She will say I'm a craxy drug addict that is lying. I am crazy and I have done a lot of drugs, but I am not lying. If I was so crazy and such a drug addict why would she want me to be around her. Well because I am very trusting and pretty impressionable. She has lyed to me so much I'm really not sure who she really is. I used to live with her. I could'nt be around someone who is so fake and lyes to everyone . I mean everyone. I have heard her tell prospective clients that certain horses are safe that she has never ridden, or seen being ridden. She has had people come out to look at horses that arrived the previous night. I have seen this happen.

Her horse echo got out and was hit by a car. She did'nt even call the vet. I was there. One horse, joey, threw off her son and his friend. Now I know this happens, but I rode that same horse earlier that day and I told mandy he tryed to buck me and I thought he was a little skitzo. So a few hours later I see mandy watching her son and his friend riding joey bareback with no headgear. I then made them put on helmets and mandy's attitude was like " oh they don't need helmets". No s**t they were thrown off ten minutes later. Its scary to think I was the only responsible adult present.

Now that I have said a few things I'll tell you specifically why I'm doing this. The last time I helped my sister she had broken her ankle ( one of many injuries this expierienced horseman has recieved) she wanted to drive or something and I would'nt let her because of she had taken a bunch of pain pills. Long story short she said she wished I would OD and die. Needless to say I swore to never help her again. Well that was two months ago and things seemed to have calmed down. I was staying at my brother's house and she kept calling me, acting like she was depressed and worn out asking for my help. I reluctantly agreed and helped her build some jumps that night. We stopped on the way home and got some liquor. I got drunk and would'nt wake up the next day to help her. My only stipulation to her was that she had to bring me back to my brother's by tuesday so He would'nt spend his birthday alone. Well since I overslept sunday. she has left me in her house with the mounds of catshit, and the dead rat rotting in his cage. She has absolutely no food in her house and it seriously reeks. Her fifty cats had ripped through about two weeks of trash and it was strewn across her basement. She has like 5 cats, one is pregnent. So is her dog. This house is seriously making me crazy and she knows it. She is feeding of my misery and knows I have no way of leaving. She is evil and I hate her.


Rase

Colorado Springs,
Colorado,
U.S.A.

Jonas is Scary

#28Consumer Suggestion

Tue, March 14, 2006

Or maybe drinking too much, noted the "tipsey" comment. I would not respond anymore, scary individual.


Bryan

Highland,
Maryland,
U.S.A.

linking up the reports

#28Consumer Suggestion

Tue, February 28, 2006

linking up all related reports for y'all to see. unbelievable! (did i spell that right?) amanda's messed up.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff167736.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff173211.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff172893.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff166123.htm


Jonas

Hanover,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

Goodnight and God bless

#28Author of original report

Wed, February 08, 2006

I started this report and I will end it. Check Amanda's rebuttal to Marianna. I am quite Impressed. Also check my challenge to Marianna. Do you guys think she can do it. Check times on posts from Amanda and Myself. I don't know how perfectly they match up because my rebuttal has not posted yet. But take my word for it, they will be either on top of eachother or close enough together to ensure They were not made by the same person. Oh how sweet it is. I only wish I could of Ended it. By the by, the entertainment value of this site is lost on no one. If you enjoyed any of my post's, check out Ebaumsworld.com and " the Onion, Dispatches from the tenth circle " for a bigger dose. it has definetely been real people.


Mariana

Lexington Park,
Maryland,
U.S.A.

please check out my report on Amanda

#28Consumer Comment

Tue, February 07, 2006

Please check out my report on Amanda. Jennifer from from Colorado cannot be Devi Rathod Hardesty. I am sure that Jennifer will find a way to prove that she is not Mrs. Hardesty, but Mrs. Hardesty has proof that she was not on a computer when Jennifer posted.

At any rate, you need to read my report. I also have proof that Jonas is Amanda. Jonas knows things about my horse that only Amanda would know.

Everyone just HAS to see how evil Amanda Matricciani is, and help spread the word about her!


Jonas

Hanover,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

thats enough

#28REBUTTAL Individual responds

Mon, February 06, 2006

I want to say i'm finished. The info I wanted was a little more than we can handle. Sometimes you want something so bad you forget people's live's are at stake. I'm not saying there was anything super wierd or unbearable, it simply wasn't what I had expected. i need to forget this ever happened. I'm so sorry, I had no idea. I just found out and it makes me almost weep to think what it must be like. Lets concentrate on building up and not tearing down. For the record, I think we should take some time to think about what we have accomplished. Not a d**n thing. If we have a problem with someone we should say it to their face, not this cyber gossip. It really is ridiculous, trying to hurt eachother, why? If you were going to buy a car from someone you wouldn't look up the dealership on ripoff report. but if you did do you think you could trust the report about them? People don't post to warn others, lets face it its revenge, plain and simple. If you would find satisfaction in knowing you contributed to the downfall of someone, would it be equally satisfying to contribute to the advocacy of someone else?


Jonas

Hanover,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

you make me feel like dancing

#28REBUTTAL Individual responds

Mon, February 06, 2006

I was never good at titles. You should have let my statements speak for themseles. You have involved children.


Jonas

Hanover,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

Jonas 1- Jen 0

#28Author of original report

Mon, February 06, 2006

How could you assume an author's sex by there writing style? Seriously please explain. My religous hock a phooey posts where intended to knock some sense into everyone. I think it worked well. My insults to jen were intended to hurt, I have never hidden that. My insults are what I would consider a stream of thoughts, thats why no punctuation, etc. You insulted my original thoughts and made yourself out to be above me, thats what this is about. The Amanda Devi thing is over as far as I am concerned. Devi posted first, amanda did not. I think Devi would admit to that. You may argue Amanda started by her shady business practice, so I will refer you to my previous diatribe. My tone may be different but with the exception of Amanda's phone and e-mail post, Jonas is Jonas and that is that. Visit Amanda's website and compare her writing style to mine. With all due respect to Amanda, mine is better.
No Aurora, the only reason you are hanging on is because you are Devi Rathod-Hardesty. You say I am making it worse for Amanda by making her look like an a*s in the recreational horse industry, you hear about the east coast all the way in colorado? No you do not. I have already given my reason for involvement. You may not believe it, but you also don't believe in the power of keeping your hands to yourself. Devi, you have already proven you are not above this by posting the first ripoff report. I have a feeling I struck a nerve with my religous hock a phooey, why would Jen be offended all the way in colorado. Devi don't worry, I lied about my father being involved in CCA. My father died before I remember him. I'm not sorry about that lie because it compelled you to create jen. Your compulsion, not mine. What have I created?
See, indentation. Now you can prove you are not Devi by giving me the name of a store in Aurora. I predict it will slow you up too much to get this information. You might be able to get it, you have had enough time to get this info. But you won't because you are not jen. Didn't you despise Jonas for not being who he said he was. I won't put a second of thought into altering my writing technique in order to protect my identity, like you have Devi. I have faced foes much greater than yourself, and Here I am.
Now heres the deal. Come clean Devi or prove you are not her. I have succeeded in proving at least a modicum of brillance, you call it an overactive imagination, I can live with that. My " overactive imagination" paid for my house and keeps my kids on the cutting edge of educational achievement. Now Devi I am going to do some homework today. If you repost as Jen without giving me the info I want, well Lets just say that hearsay is admissable in the public eye. It is your responsibillity to prove me wrong. Can you handle it, the challenge I mean. I know you are not jen because of the pleasure you get from me making Amanda's situation worse, why wouuld jen care, really please answer that question as Jen.
Devi I already know of the oldest one. Something doesn't match up there. I can't imagine choosing to live that way, something happened, or is still happening. I will find out, and like I have said previously, the proceeds from publication will benefit my society, how altuistic of the good doctor. My buddy is acomputer guy and he owes me a server. Oh imagine the possibillities. It gives me a little tingle up my spine. Yes maam I am a bully and I love to do battle. Education is no substitute for natural talent, and my talent is coming out on top.
You can at least admit the thought of me in your business scares you. Well the thought of you and I toe to toe thrills me. I can tell the difference between fear and anger. Your anger is derived from fear, making someone else to be the bad guy simply to divert suspicion. You are so out there that is not obvious to you. You are mental, almost not human. That makes my job a lot easier. Your life has been a constant struggle to hide your compulsions. You can't help your compulsion to control the things in your life. That is a natural human inclination, but there are limits to that behavior. That is not the only compulsion I suspect. Part of my research will include prescription drug usage, which I'm sure will be tough to do legally, but do-able. The can of worms remains sealed, the can openers name is Jen, and hand operating it is devi. I am simply the kind worm farmer that only does his public service by providing bait to the unsuspecting public. You know that defense well devi, say you don't. You are a failure as a doctor and the laughingstock of the barn. Yes I like that , the laughingstock of your very home. They follow out of fearand lack of options, not respect. Are you too far gone to see that? You give them no choice but to follow you. If you didn't own the place, they would be embarrassed to say they know you. Whereas my friends love me and would follow me into the depths of hell. I would be embarrassed to tell them I'm involved here, but they would understand once I showed them what I already have on you. I would lose my seat, but at this point it would almost be worth it. Don't give yourself too much credit, I said almost worth it.
I've already won and you are too messed up in the head to see it. You love to talk about how everyone can see what an a*s I am. Well those same people will soon see it my way. But that is your choice. Apologize and it will end with that. can you see the fatal flaw in my proposal? You will never admit defeat and you will never admit wrongdoing. Kind of a smart defense for me isn't it. I will not explain why that is a brillant defense, you explain it for me. Let me see what you're working with. Devi, I will grow up when I'm good and ready to, you have no choice but to stop posting your lies. I will post whatever I think is appropriate for victory. There is no limit to how brutal I can be. I will not publicly post anything that I think will lead to suicide or mental breakdown. So Like I said I will do homework today to see how far I can push you. That is the one concession I offer, beyond that I am going to love the next couple of weeks. I am prepared to spend a maximum of one thousand dollars, and my lawyer is on a small retainer that I would prefer not to use on your half-cocked lawsuits. My lawyer loves money as much as your's does, so if they become involved, needless to say I will see you in court more than once. well you know where I stand and you know what I'm going to do. i'll play chess while you try to jump across the checker-board. But in both games every player gets a turn. ITS YOUR TURN. By the way I know your fatal flaw, you feel it is not your fault.


Jennifer

Aurora,
Colorado,
U.S.A.

With a friend like you, Amanda doesn't need enemies...

#28Consumer Comment

Sun, February 05, 2006

Goodness. Where to begin with you?

Jonas filed this original report after Dr. D filed hers to inform the horse-boarding public about the risks involved in doing business with Amanda. The initial report has paragraphs, punctuation, and appears to be well thought out. In short, it reads like it was written by a girl. By comparison, the subsequent posts from Jonas are nothing more than the petty insults intended to make me feel bad. After all, isn't that what you accused me of Jonas? Trying to make you feel bad.

Why didn't I respond to or acknowledge anything in your last three posts? Being nothing less than garbage, it was simply rubbish intended to make me feel bad and doesn't even warrant a second glance. However, it should be noted that I am secretly quite pleased. All it took was a few sharp words with more than two syllables to reduce you to a schoolyard bully with an overactive imagination. Your assumptions regarding me make you look like an a*s. What did you really expect me to say? You're rubber, I'm glue?

Let's get back to the horses, the stables, and Amanda. Dr. Devi has since come on to say that it was complete fabrication, and quite frankly, after all our recent correspondence I'm inclined to agree with her. It is nothing more than a retaliatory response to her post. Since then, two different reports have been filed here in regards to your friend, Amanda. Jen of Rockville, MD (not her real name) on 23 January 2006 filed her complaint which is consistent with the statements that Dr. Devi expressed. Then two days later, Mariana of Aberdeen (who is also reluctant to reveal her own identity) chimed in with her own report regarding her dealings with Amanda in that she writes bad checks, misrepresents the horses she sells, and basically paints a picture of someone who doesn't know what they're doing, i.e. lack of quarantine and advertising horses with potential for skills that they're not built for. Others allege that she has moved on to several other stables and changed her name hinting that perhaps this was to avoid the heat being applied here.

Judging from what Dr. D wrote, she came across as an impassioned and responsible person who didn't want to see other people defrauded or more animals hurt. She refuted Amanda's accusations with explanations that were plausible.

Do Amanda a favor and stop posting on her behalfyour attempts to insult people are doing nothing to bolster her image in this arena and you're making her look worse than ever.

I stand by my defense of a single mother who is trying to build her business in order to pursue happiness. I don't understand why someone would try to ruin another persons [sic] life. I thought I would defend this amanda against an unsolicited attack. Why? What makes you so certain it's an unsolicited attack? Should these allegations be true (and I think they are) this would be neither unsolicited nor an attack on Amanda. It doesn't sound like D is trying to ruin Amanda. Amanda seems to be doing that herself.


Jonas

Hanover,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

mistake

#28REBUTTAL Individual responds

Sun, February 05, 2006

sorry I made a mistake when I thought you wrote the one click away part. In my defense I was a little tipsy. Anywho, God bless America and be yourself. Oh and jen, Re-reading your post I am now convinced you are not who you say you are. Simply name one store in your town that does not have a website and I will contact a colorado friend for verification. Again, you are a loser and I am a winner. I have proof.


Jonas

Hanover,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

awesome

#28Author of original report

Sun, February 05, 2006

Hilarious. "My joy whilst reading", who says that? Losers, thats who. Were you at least dazzled? How close was I jen? I think a little. Is that a threat? "One click away from the whole world" Please don't e-publish my put-downs, the last thing a comedian wants is for someone to read and laugh at their material. Loser. You are clueless and outgunned. You could easily prove me wrong jen, simply by bringing it. I'll help you get started. First start by replacing jonas with jen in the insults children hurled at you when you were growing up, I'm sure you have volumes etched into your very soul. here's a good one. jonas eats his own crap because he was'nt finished with the 2 dozen doughnuts he ate last night. Stupid I know but I want to start at your current comedic level. Next what you do is actually leave the house and bounce your material off real people. Leaving the house, out of the question? No it's not, I can call the Aurora Fire dept. to come to your house and cut out an orca sized whole in your house. They should bring a backhoe you say? I'll tell them. Again stupid I know, but funny because it is true. O.k. that's enough of that, it's making me tired.

Let me point out how immature you are. me "unmasking" myself in order to proceed with polygraphing those two? You may not have heard of paying over the phone, but in the grown up world he have things called credit cards and telephones. You know credit cards, the things no financial institution on Earth would issue someone with a credit score of 265. Even though it was your junky boyfriend in college who ruined your credit the bill is still the card holders responsibillity. You might hate your junky boyfriend from college, but he at least taught you all men are jerks, right? now you have an excuse to not even try to form a relationship with the opposite sex, because you are jaded and bitter, and don't you dare say because you are misunderstood, because nobody cares. I love this jen. I'm like a superhero and you are the super villain. super-sized and superfical. For the record I am spiritual, I know you don't believe that, but no one gives a hoot what you believe in. The bible has nothing to do with what I say to you, this is a part of me that I will never let go off and would have to be softened in order to be acceped in my church. I'm working on that. wish me luck.

Now, why are you clinging to the idea that I am Amanda matricciani? Do you really think a single mother with a burgoening business stays up until 5am insulting you? You are smart Jen. So smart I will give you a couple clues about who I really am. I graduated from Hill school in the early 90's. I am a capricorn and I have blue eyes. Now I would love to here there is some crackpot researching the hill. Good luck, you will need it.

If it is your true aim to expose me, lets see what you got. After every post that is responded to, I will give you one more clue. That is to prove to everyone that You are not as smart as you proport yourself to be. Now in turn I think it would be good of you to tell me something about yourself. Start maybe with your general profession. Fair enough? So you know my highschool, my sign, my eye color, my military service, the general area where I live, my boys breed and age, I have two kids, I own property and that I am much funnier are more more brilliant then you originally thought.

Egotistical you say, you are correct sir. Now I offer this as an escalation of our beef. I came with the funny and you responded with basically nothing. So we will move onto craftiness. I have friends in counter-intelligence who could easily find out who you really are, or at least find a working e-mail address, but I really don't want to know, and you don't want me know. And Quite frankly I don't want to sully my good name by admitting involvement in this. So lets see how game you are. You won't discover me because you are a loser that is afraid of the outside world. So I suggest you bury yourself in a book and continue to hide from reality. jen, I have never lost a battle in my life, does that anger you? How about the fact that I'm a member of the Grand ole' party? I think that did it. How about the fact that I work from home and play golf every day the weather permits me to. No I got it, I met president Clinton twice and the second time he remembered my name, the second time I was in civilain dress and he even remembered my branch of service. That did it. President Clinton is a liberal's prophet, right? And he knows me and likes me. Well now that I have your attention listen up. I came to the defense of Amanda because it was not right for some washed up, unemployed self-proclaimed doctor to go online and try to ruin her. It was not right and I hope Devi Ratod-Hardesty knows she will never do something like that again. Because I will be there to fight her every step of the way. You do not ruin people, you do not even try. There will be consequences, humilliating consequences. What I do here is justified, I fight fire with brimstone and lies with the light of truth. Wait a minute jen, are you thinking of re-posting that line? I'm sure you are. well this is going nowhere fast so I leave you with this. Jen my buddy told me something can't be diatribe, it has to be a diatribe. Is that true? I never payed attention in school and I didn't go to college.

Jen, can you at least try to be brilliant in your next post. Remember I did not cast the first stone, but i will cast the last. Oh yeah also remember you are a loser and I am a winner.
p.s. It is strange how my previous post's insults rolled off your back. Is that because they were addressed to jen and not to you?


Jennifer

Aurora,
Colorado,
U.S.A.

Who cares? Why Jonas does, of course.

#28Consumer Comment

Sat, February 04, 2006

Ahhh. Imagine my joy whilst reading this immature rebuttal you submitted.

You make this too easy since all I have to do is stick to the facts and let your insults/rubbish be the face you show the world.

You were the one who (allegedly) posted on 12 December 2005 the following: "ONCE again .... if there is anyone out there that is not happy with their purchase....get in touch with me or publicly respond here and I will respond. my e-mail is aematricciani@msn.com or call me on my cell 443-739-4069.

Jonas - Hanover, Pennsylvania

Your previous explanation of WHY this e-mail address appears in your post just doesn't jive. If you are not Amanda, then you're probably her brother. In any event, you are hiding behind a pseudonym which seems silly. What were you going to do if they accepted your polygraph and drug testing proposal? Show up and un-mask yourself.

I don't use the bible as a shield, but as a guide. Really? I'm sure it was quite handy during your last post.


Jonas

Hanover,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

who cares?

#28REBUTTAL Individual responds

Fri, February 03, 2006

Jen, spend more time with your family. use your education to get a job, not to try and make me feel bad. obviously you have been reading random ripoff report listings and responding. ??? I don't use the bible as a shield, but as a guide. I kind of regret getting involved in this matter because now I read what I wrote and some of it was kind of mean, but I stand by my defense of a single mother who is trying to build her business in order to pursue happiness. I don't understand why someone would try to ruin another persons life. Do you understand that jen? Have you ever ruined someone's life jen? Have you ever tried? Hopefully you can't even think about that without getting angry. I can't. Oh, what is wrong with polygraphs and drug testing. Of course I knew nobody in their right minds would agree to that. But i still will pay and set it up simply because I know it would shut everyone up. i said I regret being mean in my report, but it kind of felt good. And this is going to feel even better;
Verbose, diatribe? I'm glad you're finally getting some use out of your college education. How was college jen? Was it better than high school? What is your feeling about that time of your life? do you think of the friends you never had or do you think about crying yourself to sleep on prom night because no boys asked you and you didn't have the balls to ask anyone. Did you act like you didn't want to go anyway so your parents would'nt know how pathetic you were. I was prom king and student council president. I lost my virginity at 14 to a 19 year old. That might not matter to you but it matters to every guy. I guess what I mean to say is that I am cool and you are not. My life is great and I am happy. How could I not be. i own a pretty nice house and I have a two of the best looking, coolest kids in the country. The country that I fought and killed for. What have you done? Wait a minute don't answer that because nobody cares. I saved a womans life who was about to be stoned to death. I feel really good about that, and should'nt I? I've killed bad guys from 800 meters away and they never saw it coming. You might say that is sick or psycho, but trust me, that is pretty cool. Ask your boyfriend if he thinks it is cool, well I mean email him and ask him, because we all know your internet romance has'nt reached the 'actually meeting face to face' stage. Don't worry, I'm sure he will understand that you sent him your pretty cousin's pictures instead of you own. Really I would'nt worry because he's probably a star wars fan and I'll bet he would love to tell his friends he met the the true life inspiration for Jabba the hut. Sorry jen but for some reason this stuff really boils my blood, and it is nice to have an outlet. would'nt you agree? Well jen I hope we all learned something. I learned that I can be mean, and I can like it, its OK. I deserve it. Thats OK too. I would love to see you happy jen, but I don't think it will happen. Because you're never going to find happiness in your computer or in your books, or in the relationship you are cultivating with the crew at starbuch's. you know, the place where you put on your best lisa loeb glasses, and act like you are getting work done on the laptop that you begged your parents to buy you so you can finally be a real writer. jen, I will give you advice that I wish someone would have given me before I started this mess. Mind your own business. It really is that simple. Oh, and work on your tan because nobody likes your body, but sometimes women trick us by being very tan, it hides doughiness. So jen, put down the doughnut, the coffee and the cigarette, get up walk to the mirror and try to convince yourself that you are a good person. I mean you are witty, intelligent.....um I guess that is all. But seriously I don't think you look like jabba the hut, well I guess I can't think that of Jabba, I can't compare you to Jabba, because he at least got laid once in a while. Now, i can't wait to see your response, pointing out all the mispellings and mistakes I made. I'm sure everyone will think its really funny.


Jennifer

Aurora,
Colorado,
U.S.A.

Double Identity?

#28REBUTTAL Individual responds

Fri, February 03, 2006

Jonas/Amandawhoever you are or may benever in my life have I read a more ridiculous piece of drivel than your post/responses.

Neither I, nor Lorraine of Phoenix, know any of these people and that's ok. It makes us objective as we obviously have no vested interest in any of this and are without bias on the subject matter.

However, I too find myself completely convinced that you are INDEED Amanda posting and posing as someone else in an attempt to malign and smear your nemesis, Dr. Devi.

Your writing is ramblingdisorganizedwordy and verbose without substance, laden with accusation and ridiculous suggestion. Drug testing and polygraphsplease. And that whole diatribe about Spanish conquerors--whatever. Shouldn't you be thinking more about the Old West and consider yourself grateful that we don't hang horse thieves anymore.

Lorraine's assessment of you was dead-on. Your defense is to criticize the Phoenix climate and attempt to insult her with some lame eBay reference--weak. You know what they sayIf you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, then baffle them with your bullsh*%.

Furthermore, you have no business addressing the child, Jess. She merely relates her positive experience in the riding lessons, gives a child's perspective of the farm which she reports to be a great place to hang out, and openly admits that she has heard lots about Amanda. I heard that she was stealing lots of Mrs.Devi's things like lead ropes and halters, I even heard she took off with her trailer.

On 19 December 2005 you stated, Dr. Rathod I pose you a Question; Why are you creating an enviroment [sic] of hatred in your facility? If you think you are not I offer this evidence: A twelve year old minor child has responded to my report calling that Amanda lady crazy, the child admits to never meeting her. A BOLDFACED LIE that is. I pasted her direct quote in the above paragraph. There is no mention of "calling that Amanda lady crazy". You made that up.

Love all the Jesus stuffLord Our Father Jesus Christ in the defense of those who cannot defend themselves. Spare us thy hypocritical rants and lead us not into deceit. I love people who do deviant things and then quote scripture, ask forgiveness, etc. You make a mockery of faith and for that reason I decided to post. Holding the bible as a shield to your lies--disgusting.

If you were truly the child of God that you present yourself to be, you wouldn't be getting yourself mixed up in the whole shenanigans. If you really were a third party who chose of their own sound mind not to board with the good doctor, why would you care about the Devi/Amanda scenario? You wouldn't.

One would think that since you found a suitable place that met your needs and, more importantly, your horse's needs, that you would move on to enjoy his companionship in his new environment without giving a second thought to the farm that you didn't choose. You are highly suspect.

Of course, you're Amanda, not Jonas, so you can't help but be mixed up in this. The lies are amazing and they are there in print. You did it to yourself.

You can't help it thoughit's like a compulsion, isn't it? You should be ashamed of yourselfall that the good Lord hock-a-pooeyyou're as phony as a football bat and as transparent as glass.

You fool no one.

You silence in regards to my post will speak volumes.


Jonas

Hanover,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

Lorraine

#28REBUTTAL Individual responds

Tue, December 20, 2005

Lorraine,err I mean Ebay user 101, simply because you know someone through Ebay doesn't mean you know them or are even their friends. Maybe the phoenix heat is forcing you to sit in the air conditioning all day, making imaginary friends online. This will be my last statement under the psuedonym Jonas Saulk. I chose that name to amuse Dr. Rathod, I thought a microbiologist would think it was funny. I have offered to pay for Polygraph examinations of both parties. In a way I hope no one responds because lets face it, we have all strayed from our normal lives to hurt eachother. But the offer stands. I plan on using the test results to ensure that everyone involved( and a few others) knows who is not being truthful. Who knows? they might both be lying. I just hope that the results of the exam puts a stop to the fighting. I will remain hidden because my involvement might jeopardize my good standing in a certain society to which I have pledged my allegiance. When the results become public, I will match and offer the proceeds of the results to my brothers at this society and I will ask their forgiveness and offer my resignation. I am involved and I want to see this through.


Lorraine

Phoenix,
Arizona,
U.S.A.

Give it up Amanda ..err, I mean Jonas

#28Consumer Comment

Tue, December 20, 2005

Below is a copy of your post on the other thread. You DID post Amanda's email address saying it was yours and a phone number. You also replied as 'Owner of company' and the thread was about Amanda.

Anyone with an IQ over 70 can easily see you are Amanda posting under a fake male name in a very poor attempt to disguise yourself. Give it up, we all know who you are.

I don't know anyone involved in all this and can only judge by what I've read on the two threads that are presently on this site. Devi, if I was you I think I would put out a restraining order against this woman, she appears to be a total loon.

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Rebuttal REBUTTAL Owner of company
Submitted: 12/12/2005 11:20:58 PM Modified: 12/12/2005 11:20:58 PM

If anyone has purchased a horse from me that is not happy with it please call me to discuss....I am not sure why anyone would call Devi-Rathod Hardest

As always you have 30 days to try any of our horses. IF ANYONE HAS PURCHASED A HORSE FROM YOURNEXTHORSE AND YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE HORSES DISPOSTION, SOUNDNESS, AGE OR ANYTHING CALL ME. I always stand behind my quality prospects and look forward to providing horses to riders along the east coast. ONCE again .... if there is anyone out there that is not happy with their purchase....get in touch with me or publicly respond here and I will respond. my e-mail is aematricciani@msn.com or call me on my cell 443-739-4069.

I have only had 1 unhappy client who has returned a horse to me in poor condition. We are pursuing every avenue to rectify this situation.

Jonas - Hanover, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.


Jonas

Hanover,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

Let it go

#28Author of original report

Mon, December 19, 2005

Of course my real name is not Jonas. I wouldn't leave my real name for fear of reprisal, which is obviously in Dr. Rathod's nature. For the record I am registered under my close friend's E-mail, matricciani or amanda is niether in my e-mail address, nor in my buddies. Any problems Dr. rathod has with anyone should be addressed with that person not with me. Dr. Rathod I pose you a Question; Why are you creating an enviroment of hatred in your facility? If you think you are not I offer this evidence:
A twelve year old minor child has responded to my report calling that amanda lady crazy, the child admits to never meeting her.
Bryan from highlands MD responds also. He also admits to never meeting Amanda
The two other people who have responded have either a phone, e-mail, business or new relationship with you. Can you really know someone over the phone or after less than a year?
DR. Rathod I am sorry if my words hurt you or your business. It was not my intention to do so and I do apologize if I did. I have asked the Lord our Father Jesus Christ for forgivness of my hurtful comments. I made light of your home, I am sorry. It's not where you live but how you live. I am sorry if my crazy eyes comment hurt your feelings, but that is how I feel. I have seen many animals with crazy eyes, I have also seen human beings with crazy eyes and I'm not the only one. I t was never my intention to hurt, just to enlighten. I am not the type to hurt or even try to cause harm. I am the type to laugh and have fun. A fellow parishioner told me about Ripoffreport and how ridiculous and hilarious some reports were. I stayed up late one night falling out of my chair reading some of them when I came across the report you offered against amanda. I thought I would defend this amanda against an unsolicited attack. her rebuttal was not yet posted so I admittedly added fuel to the fire. I ask for forgiveness. But Dr. Rathod I am not un-involved. I have been to your barn and I have seen the things I mentioned. Your dog was in dire need of grooming, your husband was and has been doing what I said. The only reason I am responding now is because my friend told me He had fifteen e-mails from ripoffreport and he was getting upset. So now I stand alone with the Lord Our Father Jesus Christ in the defense of those who cannot defend themselves. To the minor child who responed to my report: Jess you may be in a situation you do not fully understand. Adults say hurtful things about others because they have been hurt, not to protect others. Your life has barely began so don't get involved in bad-mouthing and trash talking. I have been involved in the care and enjoyment of horses all my life and If there is one rule of thumb about people at a barn or people in general is that the ones who have bad things to say about people are saying those thing because they themselves are not happy, and in your situation that person is running the show so it will be very difficult to avoid taking part in the trash talking. I suggest focusing on your lessons when you are with Dr. Rathod, if she or others start acting or talking negatively simply think of how it would feel if they where saying those mean things about you and you were not there to defend yourself. Don't get caught up in the hate. Something else that might help you jess is to think of you favorite actor or music group. Do you think they got famous by bad mouthing people or being negative? I guarantee they did not. They got to the top by being positve and forward thinking and most of all they believed in themselves. Always believe in yourself Jess, don't let bitter adults make you what they think you should be. They have spent their youth, you have not. Be a Kid, have fun, don't waste your time with people who hate themselves or others. I will share a secret with you Jess, as a young person your time is even more valuable than the President's. It is because you are only a kid for eighteen years, and you are an adult the rest of your life. Nothing can change this so live your youth to the fullest, don't grow up to fast because if you do you might end up like michael jackson or something, not cool. Jess, always trust your gut, do you now why? You always trust your gut because you decide what to put into it, Would you trust an adult if they tried to force-feed you poison? No you wouldn't. So don't trust adults who try to force-feed you lies and hate. Those adults might not even realize they are doing it so it is your responsibility to trust your gut, but jess it is not your responsibility to try and help them change. Many adults will dislike or even mistreat children who disagree with them or make them feel inferior. beware jess be yourself and have fun. God gave you the power and strength to make the right decisions. So stay in school and when the time comes choose the right college for you, not the college others say you should attend. But most of all beware of the haters and be yourself.

To Bryan from Highlands MD, why are you spending you time getting involved? You have admitted to never meeting Amanda. You have obviously thouroghly investigated Amanda, are you an internet predator? How much time do you spend online everyday? Are you involved in chat rooms? Would you like someone investigating you online? Would you be willing to provide a zip-drive of your computer's contents and search history? If not would you be willing to provide me with your PC's IP address? I don't understand why you would investigate someone you have never met under the behest of someone you have known for seven months. Bryan I will share a story that you might find relevant:
A spanish conquistador travelled to America in search of Gold. He met a mayan that spoke spanish so he hired him as an interpreter. They found no gold for months so they employed strong-arm tactics against the ucooperative indigenous Mayans. The caught a Mayan and strung him up a tree with a hangmans noose. The conquistador told his trusted interpreter to tell the Mayan that he would be hanged if he did not disclose the location of the Mayan gold. The interpreter told the Mayan and he replyed that he would rather die than lose his people's gold. The interpreter told the coquistador what the mayan said so the Conquistador hanged the mayan until he was nearly dead. The conquistador then told the interpreter to tell the mayan that he would have one last chance to disclose the location of the gold or he would be skinned alive. The interpreter told the Mayan and the mayan repied that he couldn't stand the thought of being skinned alive so he said 'the gold is in our sacred caves 1 mile east of here, behind the waterfall'.
The interpreter told the coquistador 'He said he would rather be skinned alive'!
Do you understand Bryan? Beware the interpreter, especially when you don't know the other side of the story. Bryan, take a walk, smell a flower, ask your neighbor if they need help shovelling snow, go on a daytrip. I can think of a million things you could do besides sit on your computer. The real world is right outside your door, all you have to do is open it!
Dr. Rathod I challenge you to keep your negativety to youtself. I don't know if you our telling children to respond to ripoffreport or not. But I do know your actions are soliciting their involvement. Grow up Ma'am. Try to look at your actions from an ousider's view and I think you will at least understand how you are adulterating the innocence of a child, I pray for you Dr. Rathod. I pray that the Lord Our Father gives you the strength to see the error of your ways, and the power to change them. Dr. Rathod, my Father does not need to hear about this if you cease this behavior. If you think hard you may remember him. He would be upset, very upset to hear of your actions. i will just say he is very involved with a jesuit college, get the picture. I knew of you before well before we ever met. When we met you claimed to be Dr. Rathod. I will take your word for it and that can be the end of it, or it can progress. That is your decision. Devi, love thy neighbor, do not make false witness, the Lord Our Father will give you strength, all you have to do is welcome him back into your life. Take the leap, remember the love. It is never too late.


Stacia

Spring Grove,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

Content at Hanover Equestrian Centre

#28REBUTTAL Individual responds

Mon, December 19, 2005

I am a boarder at Hanover Equestrian Centre and have been since May 2005. The facility is lovely. Just what I have been looking for for my horse. Devi Hardesty is one of the nicest people I have met. Extremely helpful and generous. I have also taken lessons from her and find her very competent and thorough. I am sure anyone would love her facility. The new barn manager is top of the line. Dressage her specialty.


Bryan

Highland,
Maryland,
U.S.A.

Amanda changed her last name, now selling under the name of Amanda Roche

#28Consumer Comment

Sun, December 18, 2005

she just changed her name. she just started selling under the name of Amanda Roche. she may go by Mandy. Forbes may also be used as a last name.

you haven't seen devi change her name. Even when she got married.

read the signs and put it all together.


Bri

Auburn,
South Carolina,
U.S.A.

I have not experienced what you have

#28Consumer Comment

Sat, December 17, 2005

I have delt with Devi over the phone and in person and she has been nothing but nice. I have also met her family, husband and daughter and both were a pleasure to talk with. Her house is not only above the barn but it is also BEAUTIFUL! and i do not think it is fair to criticize someone for where they live.

Every place on the farm that i was at was immaculent and well lit. All the animals on the premisis that i saw were all in good health and seemed quite happy to be there. When i saw the dog it did not have matted hair...it just barked a lot.

I ask you to please not talk about her farm badly because i have had only pleasant experiences there.


Jess

Spring Grove,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

Amanda is Crazy

#28UPDATE Employee

Fri, December 16, 2005

Hi, I have been at Mrs.Devi's since this summer and I have heard lots about Amanda. I heard that she was stealing lots of Mrs.Devi's things like lead ropes and halters, I even heard she took off with her trailer. I take lessons there and I love them. They are so fun. I am twelve and so is her daughter so we are great friends. I stay hours after my lessons and I have spent the night there too. There house is very nice and is right above their barn. The lessons at her barn are wonderful they are all one hour long and private. She never leaves the arena and always has her eyes on you. Her barn is very safe and you can board your horse there. Her barn is very spacious and has a very nice tack room. I would reccomend this barn to anyone.


Elizabeth

Richmond,
Missouri,
U.S.A.

Amandas' report highly questionable

#28Consumer Comment

Fri, December 16, 2005

I have been aquainted with Devi for over a year through a business transaction. We have corresponded my telephone, email and snail mail. Devi made mention of this "Barn Manager" several months ago and that she was trying to make the best of a bad situation. She was patient and caring about "Amanda" and I'm not so sure this person deserved such good treatment. Rest assured, we have a simple case of a person losing their job because of their own short comings and is seeking to hurt the very person that cared enough to keep her a little too long. This was quite upsetting to Devi, who gave this "Amanda" more chances than one to "get it right"


Bryan

Highland,
Maryland,
U.S.A.

wow, that Amanda really has some mental problems

#28Consumer Comment

Fri, December 16, 2005

Yeah, I read the other rip off report that devi filed against the old barn manager, and you can really tell that Amanda is the one that posted this. What a piece of work! What a liar.

I've been to Devi's barn, and known her for a long time. She takes great care of her horses, is kind and TOO generous to people.

Those people that came back to Devi's barn from Amanda's should file a rip off report. I heard Amanda had the horses at her place where she is now in cheap electric tape fencing without juice, and the horses got out onto the busy road and got hit by a car, then she didn't even call the vet. what kind of horse person would put up that kind of fence without charging it and then expect horses to stay in?!!!

Hey, I would keep my horse at devi's place any day. i sure wouldnt' keep em in a place where Amanda was!


D

Hanover,
Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.

this is retaliatory...read our response

#28REBUTTAL Owner of company

Fri, December 16, 2005

This is a false person and false report, and was filed in retaliation to a ripoff report that we filed. If you do a search on Amanda Matricciani, you will find our report, along with her responses, and you will see the name Jonas listed as the owner, but with a matricciani email address.

I have had no visits from any potential boarders since Amanda was evicted from our facility. All new boarders that we have here are people that were previous clients of the new trainer.

The whole report is a fabrication. None of it is true. Visit our barn, see our animals, talk with the trainer and with the boarders. They all know the truth, and have stayed here through all the craziness with Amanda.

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