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  • Report:  #275815

Complaint Review: Dishnetwork/ EchoStar

Dishnetwork ,EchoStar Communications Unbelieveable, the employees of this company does not know the mailing address to return equipment! Littleton Colorado

  • Reported By:
    Irvington New Jersey
  • Submitted:
    Mon, September 24, 2007
  • Updated:
    Mon, April 06, 2009
  • Dishnetwork/ EchoStar
    5701 S. Santa Fee
    Littleton, Colorado
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
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I emailed Dishnetwork to advise them that I had to cancel my service. I know that I had a past due balance owed, and I expressed in my email to forward my final bill to my new address; and to have a technician to come over the weekend to pick-up their equipment.

Not only did they ignore the request, they debited my bank account for $106.76 on September 20th, I called 800-333-3474, to tell them that I didn't authorize the transaction and that I requested a final bill to be sent to my new address.

Well the woman that I spoke with said that since I cancelled my account, that they had the authority to debit my account for the equipment not being returned. I told her that there was not enough funds to cover that amount and that I would have to make arrangements to pay it by check at a later date.

Now today I checked my account and they not only didn't stop the payment, Dishnetwork to out another amount of $124.06 not once but three times. When I called they said until they receive the equipment they cannot refund my money.

I asked for an address or location that was close to me where I could personally bring the equipment back. Now do you want to hear the dumbest remark I ever had. I don't have an address for a location near you, and to top that one, I asked well what was on the label on the boxes that you said I received by today had on it.
The reply was even more dumber than the first, he didn't know and said that it wasn't in the computer. However, he could tell me that I cancelled the service in the computer and he could also tell me that the boxes was sent to my new address. Go figure!!!

When I asked for the payment to be stopped and he told me that it already was processed and could not be stopped, however when I called my bank they said that Dishnetwork would be the ones who would have stop processing the payment from their end.

What kind of company hires employees who can't tell you an address or location to return their equipment, so that you will not be charged for it.

If anyone is thinking about doing business with Dishnetwork think again; would you really want to patronize a company where the employees don't know the locations to return equipment?

Sam
Irvington, New Jersey
U.S.A.

6 Updates & Rebuttals


Dishtsrii

Lakewood,
Colorado,
U.S.A.

Inexperienced Employees

#7UPDATE Employee

Mon, April 06, 2009

For call centers in general, you're either going to get an outsourced person (probably in India or the Phillipines) or an inexperienced twenty-something who speaks English, but doesn't have much experience, because call centers have one of the highest turnover rates, not just at DishNetwork but everywhere. It's a revolving door. If you ever talk to an employee who's been with the company over a year, you've just hit the statistical jackpot. This isn't to say DishNetwork is a bad company to work for, it's a terrific company, but most long-term employees certainly have moved up from taking customer service calls. It doesn't take much imagination to see why.

Given this disadvantage, I don't find it surprising that they couldn't locate the return address. The user interface we use sometimes puts pertinent information, like return addresses, heck even the mailing address for making a PAYMENT, in obscure places. It can be like finding a needle in a haystack in the mindboggling pile of information and resources we have stored for us.

None of this probably matters to you, poor customer service is poor customer service regardless of who's fault it is.

But one final note: Technician picking up equipment when cancelling. That never happens, unless you're willing to pay for it. Dishing out money to pay for a truck roll, gas, technician compensation, and time to collect equipment for a customer who we're no longer servicing and getting paid by would be adding insult to injury. You will be shipped boxes to do it yourself. If your girlfriend broke up with you against your will, would you buy her a flower and pay for the suitcase to pack her things? I'm thinking not. It stinks, but, it's kind of common sense, isn't it?


Dishtsrii

Lakewood,
Colorado,
U.S.A.

Inexperienced Employees

#7UPDATE Employee

Mon, April 06, 2009

For call centers in general, you're either going to get an outsourced person (probably in India or the Phillipines) or an inexperienced twenty-something who speaks English, but doesn't have much experience, because call centers have one of the highest turnover rates, not just at DishNetwork but everywhere. It's a revolving door. If you ever talk to an employee who's been with the company over a year, you've just hit the statistical jackpot. This isn't to say DishNetwork is a bad company to work for, it's a terrific company, but most long-term employees certainly have moved up from taking customer service calls. It doesn't take much imagination to see why.

Given this disadvantage, I don't find it surprising that they couldn't locate the return address. The user interface we use sometimes puts pertinent information, like return addresses, heck even the mailing address for making a PAYMENT, in obscure places. It can be like finding a needle in a haystack in the mindboggling pile of information and resources we have stored for us.

None of this probably matters to you, poor customer service is poor customer service regardless of who's fault it is.

But one final note: Technician picking up equipment when cancelling. That never happens, unless you're willing to pay for it. Dishing out money to pay for a truck roll, gas, technician compensation, and time to collect equipment for a customer who we're no longer servicing and getting paid by would be adding insult to injury. You will be shipped boxes to do it yourself. If your girlfriend broke up with you against your will, would you buy her a flower and pay for the suitcase to pack her things? I'm thinking not. It stinks, but, it's kind of common sense, isn't it?


Dishtsrii

Lakewood,
Colorado,
U.S.A.

Inexperienced Employees

#7UPDATE Employee

Mon, April 06, 2009

For call centers in general, you're either going to get an outsourced person (probably in India or the Phillipines) or an inexperienced twenty-something who speaks English, but doesn't have much experience, because call centers have one of the highest turnover rates, not just at DishNetwork but everywhere. It's a revolving door. If you ever talk to an employee who's been with the company over a year, you've just hit the statistical jackpot. This isn't to say DishNetwork is a bad company to work for, it's a terrific company, but most long-term employees certainly have moved up from taking customer service calls. It doesn't take much imagination to see why.

Given this disadvantage, I don't find it surprising that they couldn't locate the return address. The user interface we use sometimes puts pertinent information, like return addresses, heck even the mailing address for making a PAYMENT, in obscure places. It can be like finding a needle in a haystack in the mindboggling pile of information and resources we have stored for us.

None of this probably matters to you, poor customer service is poor customer service regardless of who's fault it is.

But one final note: Technician picking up equipment when cancelling. That never happens, unless you're willing to pay for it. Dishing out money to pay for a truck roll, gas, technician compensation, and time to collect equipment for a customer who we're no longer servicing and getting paid by would be adding insult to injury. You will be shipped boxes to do it yourself. If your girlfriend broke up with you against your will, would you buy her a flower and pay for the suitcase to pack her things? I'm thinking not. It stinks, but, it's kind of common sense, isn't it?


Anonymous

Littleton,
Colorado,
U.S.A.

Seek the "escalated issues" department.

#7UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fri, July 18, 2008

The best way not to get a hold of some twenty-something, inexperienced person on the other line that makes these types of mistakes is by asking to be immediately transfered to escalated issues.

If they don't know what you're talking about, have the ask their immediate supervisor. It may create a long wait time, but it may be worth it.

The reps that are first to receive calls about payments are called "TSR's." Their duty is to make calls as short and sweet as possible....not provide good customer service. They are the bottom of the company chain.

Their software is really intricate, and the "newbies" don't quite have the grasp of it, so multiple payments are common. Once you get a hold of escalated issues, they will get things figured out typically. I've seen LARGE refunds handed out, without any need for court fees. Just take care of it quickly, since Dish Network has in the past neglected a full refund including overdraft fees if it's taken too long to fix the problem.

P.S: I shouldn't say this, but the best way to get the cheapest service is to cancel your service, then wait a month and sign back up by getting a hold of the "Buy Back" department (as they call it). A lot of times, they have better discounts than signing up as a new customer.

I think Dish Network is the best company for Digital TV, as long as you know the short cuts around all of the annoyances. They just hire too many unexperienced people, and outsource too much. If you get an Indian man named "Joseph" or "John," or something along those lines; HANG UP IMMEDIATELY, he will not understand your problem.


Anonymous

West Frankfort,
Illinois,
U.S.A.

buyer beware

#7Consumer Comment

Sun, July 06, 2008

First of all, you should have researched the service agreement. They legally have the right to debit your card for the equipment. You just can't walk up to the store to return the equipment. They use ups. Ups will give you paid shipping boxes with tracking numbers to return your equipment. You keep the tracking numbers of your shipment from you to dish to prove that you returned the equipment. You don't have any proof if you just walk up to a store, or department to return you equipment. They know the address but will not tell you for your own benefit because if you just go there and drop off the equipment, what happens if that person steals your equipment, you don't have official tracking numbers from ups to prove you don't owe the bill anymore.

Also, there are several different locations all over the country and your equipment may have to go across the country. They have a location in Georgia, Colorado, and Texas. You are in NJ. Last I remember, they don't have a location drop off site. They never will. You must also keep your tracking numbers from ups to call dish once they receive the equipment (track it via ups com) and then ask for your credit and refund. Follow up with dish a week later to make sure it was put back on your card (make sure you didn't close your card) or it will be mailed. Putting it on the card takes days and mailng takes weeks. and never go back to dish network.


Mattfast1

Centennial,
Colorado,
U.S.A.

The reason for no addresses to return equipment

#7UPDATE Employee

Sat, November 17, 2007

The reason the employees at Dish Network don't know where you're supposed to return equipment to is because there are four (that's right, 4) different places you might be asked to return equipment to. However, they should have been able to e-mail you shipping labels to return equipment with.

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