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Dr. Janice M. DuffyDr. Janice M. Duffy Senior Researcher Dr. Janice M. Duffy Adelaide, Australia continues to stalk Live person Kasamba Psychics Adelaide, Australia Internet
Janice Duffy is coming to New York City in November to visit Liveperson directly at their corporate office. She has been telling people this and she is not holding back any information. Yes, she is traveling to New York City all the way from Adelaide Australia to purposely stalk Liveperson. There is no saying what she is up to. She is posting files in her yahoo group and is now working on stalking more psychics. She is still in the process of building her e-book about psychics and trying to defame LivePerson. This would be fine to do if it would stop there. However, she doesn't stop there. She sends you multiple emails and goes to your personal websites and stalks and stalks and stalks and stalks and stalks and stalks and stalks. It doesn't and will never end. So far I have not seen Janice Duffy do anything with her so called e-book. However, she keeps saying that this manual is impressive and large. This deranged woman is still on her rampage and she will never stop. Think about it. She is 52 years old and has spent 52 years on planet earth. The best that she can do with her life is lie, cheat, make false accusations and stalk psychics. She mainly stalks psychics from the United States since they really can't bother her because she lives in Adelaide Australia. She is now using people to work for her in the United States who will put up some room and board for her when she comes into town to talk to Liveperson directly in their corporate office. Dr. Janice M. Duffy from Adelaide Australia is the stalker behind most of the anti- psychic reports here on rip off report. She uses different handle names and she admits to doing some stalking on one of her posts. Just keep reading about Janice from Adelaide, Australia and you will see that she is really a twisted sick person. I do not sympathize with her because she will never stop! Her posts just keep on coming and coming every single day. Just read and read. You will find her here over and over again. Be careful because she is out to get you. Just look at all of the innocent psychics she has hurt here already and she will not stop. She is harassing, stalking and posting lies about psychics daily. She wants you to feel sorry for her so that she can suck you in and become your friend. When she is your friend, she will use your information against you and she will lie about you and make up stories about how evil you are and that she of course is the innocent victim here. She has some sort of mental disorder and she loves to stalk online where she can't get caught so easily. She is one of these internet wackos that love to sit behind a computer and stalk and stalk and stalk. Once she gets your email address, she will keep on sending you emails and threatening ones. She won't stop ever! You are better off changing your emails address, phone number and living address if she gets a hold of it. This woman is clearly a monster and to look at her, you would not think so. Her photo may be posted soon so that you can get an image of who this woman really is and what she looks like. You would never think that she could be capable of doing such things. She looks like your girlfriend from next door. She is a senior researcher as reported in another report and she doesn't look too tough. However, behind a computer screen, she is a psycho. She stalks, taunts and harasses you over and over and over and over and over again. I have a feeling that she is possessed because she is literally hunting down psychics online and harassing them. Be careful about giving her your paypal information. This has not been going on for just a week or two. This is years. Once she has it, she will use your real name against you. That's how she is able to get your personal information. That is just one of her tactics. She also tries to befriend your other psychic friends, in hopes that they will give her some information about you. Scary? Yes it is. There are several victims of Dr. Janice M. Duffy. She stalked and harassed me daily. Does this story sound familiar to you? If it does, then it's because Dr. Janice M. Duffy has done it too far to many psychics and she is proud of it. Her sick obsession with psychics is ongoing and even after a few years; she is still at her games. She is now setting up groups with her anti psychic friends who are trying to get information about psychics. If I were you, I would not give anyone out there your personal details and information. She actually has psychics working for her. She tells them that if they do what she says, then she will not put their names in her anti psychic e-book that she is claiming on making available to everyone. That is of course blackmail. Many psychics have fallen for it and are actually working with her. You never know when you are going to be her next victim. I would personally work for a psychic network because once she has your information, the stalking begins. I don't even care about her having a problem with psychic readings and writing rip off reports about it. It's not that. It's really all about the stalking and the harassing, threatening, lying and malicious attacks by her. You cannot win against a stalker since it is a serious illness. It's really bad for Dr. Janice M. Duffy from Adelaide Australia. You cannot win against her because she has some serious connections with the Australian government that exempts her somehow from getting caught. I know that she has hacked my email and my account several times with some government software that she or her friends obtained. I don't believe her motive is to steal your money. I believe it is just to find out your information so that she can stalk you and threaten you. She has not yet taken any psychic to court or Liveperson as of yet and she just makes up false lies and accusations against everyone that she possibly can. Her message is clear. She is not out for justice. She is only out to harass, stalk and make your life miserable because hers is miserable. She stalks and stalks. I think I have made myself clear and I will keep posting as long as this stalker is still stalking psychics. Remember Janice, nobody here is your friend and you think that your friend Jennifer H. from the Bronx is really your friend and I can clearly tell you that she is not. Janice works in groups and has many US psychic friends that are trying to help her to stalk psychics. They are not out to seek justice or to get their money back. They only want to stalk, harass, threaten and make you run from your psychic job. Look out for more reports. We will keep you up to date on her stalking friends as well.
Susan
Southampton, New York
U.S.A.
127 Updates & Rebuttals
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
JH
#128Consumer Suggestion
Mon, November 03, 2008
You sound like a wonderful person. You sound as if your legitmately trying to heal and help others and I commend you for that. I hope that never changes or that you become tainted with the negative energies of others. If one day you find you may well be tainted by the negativity of others I hope that you would move on from them and not think that you can fix or heal them. I wish you the best of luck with your healing process. Blessings to you and your family.
Good Luck
Thank you for your hospitality.
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
FOR ALL LEGITIMATE RIPPED OFF PSYCHIC CLIENTS!!
#128Consumer Suggestion
Mon, November 03, 2008
**FOR ALL "LEGITIMATE" RIPPED OFF KASAMBA/LIVE PERSON CLIENTS PLEASE READ THE POSTS FROM MANY OF THE WEAKGUYONKASAMBA GROUP MEMBERS AND MODERATORS. ONCE YOU DO THAT YOU WILL FIND THAT THEY ARE VERY ANGRY, BITTER, CONFRONTATIONAL, ARGUEMENTATIVE, NAME CALLING, AND STALKING PEOPLE! YOU WILL NOT FIND A HEALTHY ROAD TO HEALING WITH THIS GROUP. THE KEY WORD HERE IS: HEALTHY! IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO START YOUR JOURNEY ON THE ROAD TO HEALING I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH THAT PSYCHIC JUNKIE DOT NET IS THE GROUP FOR YOU! THE GROUPS OWNER WOULD NEVER TOLERATE SUCH NEGATIVITY IN HER GROUP. HEALTHY HEALING IS THE KEY TO MOVING ON. "HEALTHY" HEALING IS THE ROOT TO RECOVERY. YOU WILL NOT FIND THAT IN THE JANICE DUFFY GROUP! THAT IS QUITE APPARENT FROM THE GROUP MEMBERS AND MODERATORS POSTS ON THIS SITE. START YOUR JOURNEY TO EMOTIONAL HEALING AND HEALTH WITH PSYCHIC JUNKIE DOT NET. IF A GROUP IS SWAMPED WITH NEGATIVE POSTINGS FROM ITS MEMBERS THAN THAT IS NOT THE GROUP FOR YOU. IF YOU WANT DRAMA AND NEGATIVITY THAN IT IS. PSYCHIC JUNKIE DOT NET THE ROAD TO HEALTH AND UNDERSTANDING! **
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
I thought you two had said you had moved on
#128Consumer Comment
Fri, October 31, 2008
But no, here you are still trying to use me as an outlet for your bitterness and dysfunction. What have you achieved over the last 18 months other than to try and hurt me (which is impossible because I have absolutely no respect for either of you)?
Judging me and using underhanded tactics to try and hurt me is the sum total of your achievements. I Know Iris was sending 'the emails Janice didn't want people to see' to group members so I put them in the file section. That is vindictive.
There have been some suspicious applications. I wouldn't put it past you Iris to continuously try to rejoin the group to cause trouble.
I stopped having readings from that company quite a while ago. One of the last ones I had was with you Iris. You didn't know it was me and you are just as bad as the rest of them-trying to get money out of people.
Karen, you judge my mental state but yet you continuously post bitter twisted comments -you do NOTHING proactive.
You BOTH said in posts you were moving on to your wonderful lives but you are still trying to disparage and hurt me. What did I ever do to you? Why would you want to hurt someone who is at least trying to do something positive?
I will tell you why. Because you are both nasty shrews with nothing better to do than to get your kicks out of trying to hurt someone.
But you know what, tells someone who cares. I don't and readers are welcome to make up their own minds.
Now why don't you prove that you are both NOT liars and move on with your life as you stated in previous posts.
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
Psychic Reading Recovery
#128Consumer Suggestion
Fri, October 31, 2008
Psychic Junkie Dot Net!! A great source for healing and moving forward. A place for healing and understanding.
Jh
New York,New York,
U.S.A.
It's not black and white
#128Consumer Suggestion
Fri, October 31, 2008
I don't want to get into a fight or huge discussion about who's done what, but for Iris, it's not a black and white issue with the people on the list. Everyone is there with their own story and their own experiences. Some left LP behind, some mostly left it behind, some haven't. But if they weren't wanting to find out more about what they went through and why, they'd not be on that list. Everyone has their own path and their own story.
I've spoken to a number of people on the list, in email, on the phone and even in person. The conversations have been incredible. So many of us found LP during the worst or hardest times in our lives. LP made things worse in most (but not all!) cases. But the level of self awareness and recognition of what happened to us with LP as well as ourselves and all sorts of deeper issues is astounding. There's one girl I owe an email to right now who is in very much the same boat as I was, and I identify with her soooo much. I think she's one of the strongest people on that list. She's soooo self aware despite being in a hurtful place emotionally. I admire her, I really do. I also empathize with her on a level I can't even properly communicate! She doesn't post anymore as she was bothered by someone off the list, but she is one of several I've spoken to who is just incredible.
I spoke to you privately once, Iris, and when we spoke it was clear that I was still hurting very much over my situation -- I still am. Feelings can't be turned off so easily and sometimes change can't be forced. The people who do that are often cut off to the world and emotions.
I still have things going on in the present with my situation that won't allow the chaper to fully close yet. I wish it would, but it's not and things are still popping up from time to time. This past week things happened that hurt. A few weeks ago it was the same. It's not ended yet, and I have no control over that. I can just try and deal with my feeings and behavior. I'm pushing forward and have set a few things into motion, but honestly, I have to go with what's right for me and take my time on certain things. Besides that, talking with others and reading so many books to try and become stronger, I still have a long way to go. But I understand it. And yes, I do feel there are a very small amount of real readers out there, but not many! Not on LP, at least. Again, it's not black and white.
We're not stupid on that list, we're there to help each other. And we do. No one is leading anyone. If someone was pushing their opinion on others, then I'd be concerned. But it's well understood that everyone on that list has their own personal reasons for being there and their own stories in regards to LP.
Lucy
Australia,Other,
Australia
Great post JH
#128Consumer Comment
Fri, October 31, 2008
Well said.
Even though I am not involved with your group, your post was fabulous and I hope you are all benefiting in some way.
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
Get your MIND RIGHT!
#128Consumer Suggestion
Thu, October 30, 2008
Get it together Ms. Duffy and keep the dribble to the confines of your group because I surely DO NOT care what you are talking about. Liars you say? All ANYONE has to do is flip back and see the crazy rants of your's on this site. So save all that crap you said for the voices in your head! I KNOW what you are!! No matter what, you cannot keep yourself away from this site spewing your constant nonsense. Pretty soon you will start posting under your multiple personalities again! GET YOUR MIND RIGHT "LUNATIC!" You are most likely posting in your group as someone else too! That's your M.O. "Freak!" That's how transparent your are. "Nut job." You are NOT credible! I will STOP posting to this site when YOU DO! When YOU DO FOR GOOD! You can't do that can you? Ever. You won't. Ever. You will opt to post out here under other names like someone is stupid. Your as transparent as a jellyfish!
IF PEOPLE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT HEALING AND THEIR MENTAL HEALTH. CHECK OUT PSYCHIC JUNKIE DOT NET!
Iris
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
Responding to Janice is too good to pass up
#128UPDATE Employee
Thu, October 30, 2008
For Janice:
You mistake sadness (at your plight) for bitterness.
I find it rather telling that you say that you "own" the group. What an interesting choice of words to say that you "own" it. You don't own the members and you certainly don't own the group. The 120 members you allege are mostly psychics who quietly track what is written there. You have perhaps five members at the most who actively post, and you are at least one of the five.
There is nothing "healthy" about the way the group functions. It is a handful of lonely, angry women who still seek an authentic psychic to magically give them a peek into their romantic futures.
While I may not have helped you personally (and who could, given what appears to be your disturbed mental state), I consider it a victory to have helped hundreds of people move on with their lives.
Alas, the only help for you may be long-term therapy with a psychiatrist along with medication.
It is well-documented that you have multiple screen names and identities. You have bragged about it here on ROR and in the Yahoo group. Do not now feign innocence and cry "victim." You are only a victim of your own actions.
You ceased being a victim of fake psychics long ago because you claim that you KNOW they are fake and yet you continue to use their services.
You are not helping people. You are hurting them. You are akin to a bar owner who provides an open bar for a group of alcoholics. That is nothing to brag about.
If you were truly intent on helping people rather than your self-aggrandizing need to be the center of attention with the constant mention of your various accidents (and remember that there are no "accidents" in the universe), you would direct the members to:
(a) find a nearby chapter of AA, Al-Anon, CODA, or some such support group, find sponsors and get on the path toward kicking the psychic addiction;
(b) join the other oft-mentioned online psychic addict group;
(c) get into addiction counseling with a therapist in their local area;
(d) find the inner awareness and strength to kick the habit and get back to life.
There is no magic answer to what tomorrow will bring. If you're busy worrying about tomorrow, you miss out on today.
If you have to ask "what is he/she thinking" or "what is he/she feeling," then you don't even have a relationship with the person. In a healthy relationship, you have open communication and you can have these kinds of conversations with your partner.
Women are afraid to ask the man directly because they don't want to hear the honest answer. They want to live in ignorant bliss and delusion, and make excuses for the other person's bad and disrespectful behavior. They would rather have a psychic say: "He's confused..." or "He's scared..." and then be told that they have to be patient and wait.
If they love him hard enough and long enough, he'll come around and will love them as needily and intensely as they think they love him.
They believe that if he doesn't want to spend every waking moment with them, he doesn't love them, or that they're not important in his life.
This is all ridiculous thinking, yet emotionally imprinted on us from childhood, on television and in the movies.
If he/she hasn't called, calling a psychic to ask "when will he/she call" is a waste of time. If the person hasn't called, they are most likely not interested.
Many of your members lack self-esteem. They need another person's validation of their existence in order to function in the world.
Exchanging information on which psychics are or are not "real," and continuing to obsessively get multiple readings every week (and rack up credit card bills or drain savings) is NOT a healthy way to function in the world.
You are using the group and your never-completed "report" as a substitute for a relationship. You have traded one obsession for another. You just can't see that, because you are immersed in your pain and mistaking this as some mission or purpose.
Disband the group of not-so-merry people. Focus on healing YOURSELF, getting help for YOURSELF, and spend some time in quiet introspection along with getting real world counseling.
Peace out.
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
For Karen and Iris...lol
#128Consumer Comment
Thu, October 30, 2008
I rarely read these reports these days because I can do without reading the bull written about me It is such a waste of time. However, sometimes I need some information from the site.
Of course there are plenty of posts attacking me. I thought you both wrote you were 'moving on' but you just seem to become more bitter. Can you prove be able to prove that I am all the persona's that you attribute to me. You may need to.
For 18 months you have achieved nothing. In the last 18 months I have started a group that although I own it, I have no decision-making powers whatsoever. It has more than 120 members and, thanks to the mods functions in a healthy way.
I have gathered a lot of research on the frauds which I am both loading into to the file area of the group in order to inform clients and editing into the report.
What have you two achieved besides attacked me and winged on ROR. Have either of you have ANYTHING tangible that you have produced that can benefit clients?
No, i didn't think so.
By the way, some of the accusations (specifically that I was posting as specific people) that you made about me may be little difficult for you to prove as I was in hospital at the time with no access to the internet. I have proof.
You two are just insignificant bitter liars. But keep attacking me because every time you do we gain a few members.
Jh
New York,New York,
U.S.A.
For Karen
#128Consumer Comment
Thu, October 30, 2008
I do realize that Janice has a stormy rep here. That being said, the list really has it's own personality. Janice owns it, yes, but she's not the list herself. She doesn't even post often. It's the rest of us that gab too much ;)
There's people on it who think everyone should stop getting reads, others who feel there are real readers and who discuss who they feel is real or fake, others who discuss their past experiences, others who just want to share... There also are occasional flare ups with posters trying to start trouble or claiming they're someone else -- perhaps a bit more than other lists due to the nature of things (hell, just look at this here site for a LOT more of that sort of thing!). But we try and keep on top of it.
Everyone on the list and on the ROR has different reasons for being around and discussing LP, and in the end I can say that the list has helped me at times with feeling not so alone. At other times it's helped me get other opinions.
There were a few cases where I was on the fence about some readers I saw early this year where I wasn't sure if they real or not. Through the list I not only got to hear of others' experiences, but I heard a few things that surprised me about some of these readers. When I heard about what others went through, little bells went off in my head. I know that those bells should have set themselves off a long time ago, but when you're temporarily residing in "hell" like I've been this year, the sound of bells don't always ring so well!!!
When posters sometimes discuss experiences via email it gets even more interesting -- but also very comforting. I have spoken to a few people one on one who have been in the boat as me now and in the past. And sometimes it goes way beyond discussing LP experiences. Sometimes it's a case of feeling connected on a human level to someone in a similar situation who's been hurt personally as much as you have. You commiserate and try to help each other, and you don't feel as small. That's what the list is to ME. Information, sharing, and not judging what others are choosing to do. Want a read? Fine. Don't want one? Fine. Want one every so often after researching who others like? Fine. Really, I'm just there to help and be helped. I don't want the dark aspect of LP to hurt others as it did so many of us. There is good on that site. It's small, but there is good. And it has lead me to become friendly with some really wonderful people.
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
As if Karen...
#128Consumer Comment
Wed, October 29, 2008
You are not already a member!
Please please don't insult mine or anyone else's intelligence by making out you have not signed up to the group and are a member or have been.
For someone who claims NOT to be or have been a client of LP, and NOT an expert on LP, you sure do spend alot of time reading threads about LP and even more time posting on them.
For someone so obsessed with Janice (despite having no link or reason as you claim) it is aburd to state that you would not have accessed the group she founded.
After all, its only one click away.
Taking into account all of the above, the LAW OF PROBABILITY states that you have been there and most likely go there regularly.
In fact, thinking about it, its probably you thats cutting and pasting posts from the group and posting as the fake members.
If the cap fits...........
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
As if Karen...
#128Consumer Comment
Wed, October 29, 2008
You are not already a member!
Please please don't insult mine or anyone else's intelligence by making out you have not signed up to the group and are a member or have been.
For someone who claims NOT to be or have been a client of LP, and NOT an expert on LP, you sure do spend alot of time reading threads about LP and even more time posting on them.
For someone so obsessed with Janice (despite having no link or reason as you claim) it is aburd to state that you would not have accessed the group she founded.
After all, its only one click away.
Taking into account all of the above, the LAW OF PROBABILITY states that you have been there and most likely go there regularly.
In fact, thinking about it, its probably you thats cutting and pasting posts from the group and posting as the fake members.
If the cap fits...........
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
As if Karen...
#128Consumer Comment
Wed, October 29, 2008
You are not already a member!
Please please don't insult mine or anyone else's intelligence by making out you have not signed up to the group and are a member or have been.
For someone who claims NOT to be or have been a client of LP, and NOT an expert on LP, you sure do spend alot of time reading threads about LP and even more time posting on them.
For someone so obsessed with Janice (despite having no link or reason as you claim) it is aburd to state that you would not have accessed the group she founded.
After all, its only one click away.
Taking into account all of the above, the LAW OF PROBABILITY states that you have been there and most likely go there regularly.
In fact, thinking about it, its probably you thats cutting and pasting posts from the group and posting as the fake members.
If the cap fits...........
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
As if Karen...
#128Consumer Comment
Wed, October 29, 2008
You are not already a member!
Please please don't insult mine or anyone else's intelligence by making out you have not signed up to the group and are a member or have been.
For someone who claims NOT to be or have been a client of LP, and NOT an expert on LP, you sure do spend alot of time reading threads about LP and even more time posting on them.
For someone so obsessed with Janice (despite having no link or reason as you claim) it is aburd to state that you would not have accessed the group she founded.
After all, its only one click away.
Taking into account all of the above, the LAW OF PROBABILITY states that you have been there and most likely go there regularly.
In fact, thinking about it, its probably you thats cutting and pasting posts from the group and posting as the fake members.
If the cap fits...........
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
Thanx you JH
#128Consumer Suggestion
Wed, October 29, 2008
I appreciate the invite. I really do but considering the founder of the group and her extreme unstable behavior I am going to pass on the invite. Perhaps the group would have a much better reputation if it were not founded by someone who has questionable creditbility. Perhaps the group members should branch out and break away from its founder due to the fact that where ever this woman plants her feet there is sure to be uneccessary drama. This is a factual observation from the threads on this web site from your groups founder, and anyone who is serious about the healing process should absolutely opt out of joining any group started by Janice Duffy. Because what is going on now is not healthy for those who are trying to get and stay healthy.
Jh
New York,New York,
U.S.A.
How can you take those posts seriously?
#128Consumer Comment
Tue, October 28, 2008
I'm a bit shocked that anyone would take the fake Joyaura and the fake kacho55 as REAL people. Someone who's on the list is doing this. No, we don't know who, but from intros to each of the fake posts made on this site, I'd think it would be CLEAR that this is the work of a troublemaker.
There is no point to reposting random things from the list here, and if you read the wording and the tone of those posts' intros, you'll see very quickly that they're the work of one person.
I also invite you to join the list, Karen. If you really want to see what's going on there, then come and see for yourself. Things taken out of context and twisted do not show what's going on over there.
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
The FACT of the matter
#128Consumer Suggestion
Tue, October 28, 2008
The fact of the matter is: regardless of what the members of "weakguyonkasamba" post about their group there is dysfunction and lack of trust. Definitely a lack of respect! Regardless of who is posting what. This is a group that you do not want to trust your healing to. The founder of this groups mentally stability is also questionable in regard to the posts that "SHE" has posted out here numerous times. In a nutshell if you want REAL help I strongly suggest and urge you to go over to PSYCHIC JUNKIE DOT NET! The founder of that group is a actress and has a sane head on her shoulder and is genunine in regard to wanting to help others in the healing process.
Why join a group that you have to worry about it being infiltrated,etc as the previous poster stated? Why would you want to deal with the drama period? Drama does not help you heal. It keeps the sickness brewing. What I posted about that group IS TRUE! If it were not you would not have to read about thier activities and bickering on this website. Plain and simple.
DO YOURSELVES A FAVOR AND JOIN A MORE REPUTABLE GROUP! A GROUP WHERE ITS MEMBERS ARE NOT STILL GETTING READINGS AND REPORTING IT BACK TO THE GROUP TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO IS REAL AND WHO IS NOT. WHO SHOULD BE ATTACKED AND ADDED TO SOME RIDCULOUS LIST THAT THEY HAVE COMPILED.
This kind of behavior is NOT healthy regardless of what they try to pretty it up as. You can put lipstick on a pig and its still a PIG!
Augusta
Stroudsburg,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
Absolutely untrue
#128Consumer Comment
Tue, October 28, 2008
If you actually go in and read the weakguy group - you will find out that the real client members are NOT coming in here and stating stuff from that group, nor is the group dysfunctional. They clearly state that some nut is coming to ROR and using their names from weakguy and pasting stuff. Some really immature adults would do such inane things.
Therefore to anyone reading this, the post above is untrue, go in and read for yourself as I have.
If you are a client and want to share your experience or compare notes, you can do that there. Ror is only for clients who are not aware of another group, or for readers with little to no skills or client base and come here to waste time.
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
Take a HONEST look
#128Consumer Suggestion
Tue, October 28, 2008
For those of you who are genuinely seeking some kind of support group for your psychic reading addictions you can clearly see that the janice group is not for you. This thread as well as others have been swamped with postings from that group and personal gripes between its members and moderators. This spells disorganization. If these people were serious about helping anyone they would not be on this site constantly displaying what is going on in that group. As you can see there is a ton of infighting, mistrust, lies, etc. What they are doing is feeding their obsessive personalities. Feeding on one another like vampires. Feeding on the misery of others. Plus they are still getting readings from the liveperson/kasamba site thus continuing to feed their addictions. This offers no real help to those of you looking to heal from your bad experiences. This group keeps the wounds fresh and open.
IF YOU SEEK REAL SUPPORT FROM SUPPORTIVE SANE PEOPLE I SUGGEST YOU JOIN PSYCHIC JUNKIE DOT NET. THEY HAVE A SUPPORT GROUP THERE THAT IS NOTHING LIKE THE JANICE GROUP. They are NOT out here spillng group details at any given moment. IF that does start happening you best believe its someone from the Janice group trying to smear the GOOD REPUTATION of this group. Do yourself a favor and join a group with sane and respectable people.
Kacho55
Upstate,New York,
U.S.A.
Tired of all these phoney experts posting here and in our group!!!
#128UPDATE Employee
Sun, October 26, 2008
We're trying to do our best to keep the group clean but I'm just tired of all this stuff going on over there. Yes I'm paranoid, but it's great that we have a place for readers like Joy to share her info about her fellow readers. She even mentions one that told her he wasn't psychic. Janice has been ill so us mods are doing our best to keep the bad readers out of there. Joy so far has refused to tell people what her name is on LP but I know she must be a good one to take all this time to expose the bad readers. Come check out what I posted in the group unless you're a scammer reader of course!:
Re: A question for all members...
If you're a real poster, then I'm sorry. But you have to understand
that the mods see a LOT of fake members and there have been other
things with phony posters here and in other places. the timing of your
post came right after another issue which I'm still looking into (the
other mods aren't around at the moment to give me their judgement).
And the tone of your post matched a poster who used to be here with
"preaching" about why people are still getting readings.
The list is not against readings -- it's against frauds. So when you
posted asking why people still get reads, it set off alarm bells for
me that you could be someone else.
BTW, I know visiting a place is not the same as living there in most
cases. However, I have a friend who has traveled in Mexico and South
America quite a bit, so besides my travels, I've seen and heard of
hers. I also have a friend who knew people in Mexico on both ends of
the economic spectrum who would tell me some things. So no, I don't
know what it's like to live there, but I do know that with some alarm
bells set off already, that made me question just how real you are.
Again, I am sorry -- but my job is to protect the list and protect the
people here from those who might be here gathering info or trying to
influence others in a wrong way. Sometimes people will be upset or
those who are real people will be accused of not being real. Or
sometimes someone who feels strongly about something will be angry
that they've been asked to stop discussing a certain topic. But the
mods don't take action unless we feel something odd is up. I ask that
you understand that and try to see beyond that -- this was not
personal towards YOU -- this is about trying to keep the list going.
Joyaura17
Upstate,New York,
U.S.A.
More from Janice!!
#128UPDATE Employee
Thu, October 23, 2008
I'm not sure what an "Isis" is in the context of what's going on in the group, but Janice is really getting confusing about a real or fake Joy. Considering that she intended to provide a wonderful platfrom for readers like me to share what I know with clients. I'm glad she's getting better but, as we've discussed before, it would be great if she would actually proofread something before she hits "send".
I logged into RoR to get some information for this small report I am
preparing on the fact that they broke their own TOS-i.e. they say that
posts about NOB-US businesses are expressly forbidden.
I know I shouldn't read the posts about me because the crap makes me
angry but I saw one by the fake Joy that quoted something I had
written in this group. This fake Joy had copied something I had
written and put a malicious twist on it. I assume it is an expert-an
enemy within.
In another post Iris (of course) had put her 2 cents worth (which is
overvaluing her opinion) and said I was Joy - which one was not
clear. (It also seems I am eve37, a multitude of other people and
probably Satan).
A lot of the posts by the fake Joy were loaded while I was in hospital
and did not have access to the internet....oppppsss... Moreover, I can
prove this:).
Our real Joy is better equipped to fill members in on the situation.
My view may be skewered. But I think other opinions are necessary
because from what I read the fake Joy is supposed to me yet quotes my
posts on this group but adds a malicious twist. This is not good for
prospective members. Honestly, I really don't know if i read it
correctly because I lost any objectivity on the ROR posts a long time ago.
I did post about this on ROR but I am back to staying away from the
site because it is much more productive if I focus on collating,
updating and loading the information on the files here than reading
all the crap written about me on ROR.
I may be wrong but I think this issue needs to be clarified.
As KHater says "the enemy is within us" and I don't want this to have
a deleterious effect on our real Joy or on prospective members.
I am posting my experience and perspective but leaving it to our real
Joy and the mods to make any decisions.
Joyaura17
Upstate,New York,
U.S.A.
More from Janice!!
#128UPDATE Employee
Thu, October 23, 2008
I'm not sure what an "Isis" is in the context of what's going on in the group, but Janice is really getting confusing about a real or fake Joy. Considering that she intended to provide a wonderful platfrom for readers like me to share what I know with clients. I'm glad she's getting better but, as we've discussed before, it would be great if she would actually proofread something before she hits "send".
I logged into RoR to get some information for this small report I am
preparing on the fact that they broke their own TOS-i.e. they say that
posts about NOB-US businesses are expressly forbidden.
I know I shouldn't read the posts about me because the crap makes me
angry but I saw one by the fake Joy that quoted something I had
written in this group. This fake Joy had copied something I had
written and put a malicious twist on it. I assume it is an expert-an
enemy within.
In another post Iris (of course) had put her 2 cents worth (which is
overvaluing her opinion) and said I was Joy - which one was not
clear. (It also seems I am eve37, a multitude of other people and
probably Satan).
A lot of the posts by the fake Joy were loaded while I was in hospital
and did not have access to the internet....oppppsss... Moreover, I can
prove this:).
Our real Joy is better equipped to fill members in on the situation.
My view may be skewered. But I think other opinions are necessary
because from what I read the fake Joy is supposed to me yet quotes my
posts on this group but adds a malicious twist. This is not good for
prospective members. Honestly, I really don't know if i read it
correctly because I lost any objectivity on the ROR posts a long time ago.
I did post about this on ROR but I am back to staying away from the
site because it is much more productive if I focus on collating,
updating and loading the information on the files here than reading
all the crap written about me on ROR.
I may be wrong but I think this issue needs to be clarified.
As KHater says "the enemy is within us" and I don't want this to have
a deleterious effect on our real Joy or on prospective members.
I am posting my experience and perspective but leaving it to our real
Joy and the mods to make any decisions.
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
To the fake Joyaura
#128Consumer Comment
Wed, October 22, 2008
I have been reading your posts because I have been accused of being you and/or the real Joy.
I checked my medical certificates. I can prove I am NOT you as I was in hospital on the days they were posted with no access to the internet. This amounts to irrefutable proof that I am not posting as you (Isis accused me of this).
I notice you quote things that I write in the group and then add a malicious twist.
Both you and Iris are stupid.
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
To the fake Joyaura
#128Consumer Comment
Wed, October 22, 2008
I have been reading your posts because I have been accused of being you and/or the real Joy.
I checked my medical certificates. I can prove I am NOT you as I was in hospital on the days they were posted with no access to the internet. This amounts to irrefutable proof that I am not posting as you (Isis accused me of this).
I notice you quote things that I write in the group and then add a malicious twist.
Both you and Iris are stupid.
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
To the fake Joyaura
#128Consumer Comment
Wed, October 22, 2008
I have been reading your posts because I have been accused of being you and/or the real Joy.
I checked my medical certificates. I can prove I am NOT you as I was in hospital on the days they were posted with no access to the internet. This amounts to irrefutable proof that I am not posting as you (Isis accused me of this).
I notice you quote things that I write in the group and then add a malicious twist.
Both you and Iris are stupid.
Joyaura17
Upstate,New York,
U.S.A.
More from Janice and the group!
#128UPDATE Employee
Mon, October 20, 2008
Just an update I wanted to share with the gang. Some don't feel comfortable posting over there anymore because they feel that Janice or me might post their info over here. It's all about her getting her money back and readers like me that post over there can help you avoid getting scammed!
Re: Hello goodbye
Unfortunately what has happened to me has made a lot of members very
wary-and with good reason.
I apologise for this but there are a lot of vested interests and
agendas and I am the public scapegoat.
It is difficult but it has been my choice to stick with it because I
believe what that comany is doing to clients is appalling.
So many times I have thought of just giving up. But we now have a
group of over 120 members in which information can be disseminated.
This is the first such group that has ever survived let alone gain so
many members.
The people who have plastered confidential information about me have
broken up many previous groups similar to this.
I no longer read ROR because I have obtained the information I need to
address the issue of their continued posting of defamatory as well as
personal information about me.
I have emailed ROR many times and pointed out that posting information
about me contravenes their own terms of service - i.e. They state that
posts about non-US businesses or posts that threaten individuals are
"expressly forbidden".
They have NOT replied to my emails.
I am in the process of addressing this issue through other avenues.
All I can say to members is that they are pretty much safe from the
perpetrators as it is me they are after.
No member is under any obligation to post anything. They are welcome
to just read the information.
Right now I am very tired but at least I have resumed work on
disseminating the information on the frauds via this group.
I am doing the best I can as it has been a slow recovery from what was
a very bad accident.
As I read the discussions in the posts I realise that the group has
flourished and many clients have been saved from being ripped off by
the frauds.
The groups runs so well because of the dedication and aility of the mods.
I WILL get more information into the files soon. I am just sorting
through it all as it is on a couple of flashdrives (my windows crashed
just as I went into hospital. I can only do so much at the moment but
at least I am back working on it.
We are still her and the group is growing and that is a major victory,
Iris
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
Whatever you say
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Mon, October 20, 2008
It's clear who is hateful. I don't need to say more than that.
M
Bourges,Other,
France
Iris-you are the liar and stalker
#128UPDATE Employee
Sun, October 19, 2008
How can you update reports written by another person? Unless of course this is one of your identities.
You are a stalker. You should take you own advice and let go of your hate and vindictiveness.
You are hated by so many people and have stalked so many that your best bet would be to shut up because just reading your posts shows that you are a liar and are full of hate and obsession.
Quite a few people would be happy to provide proof that you are stalking and abusing them. Don't forget to tell that to your legal team!
M
Bourges,Other,
France
Iris-only original authors can update reports
#128UPDATE Employee
Thu, October 16, 2008
Some questions:
ONLY ORIGINAL AUTHORS CAN UPDATE REPORTS. Are you actually posing as Susan from Southhampton?
Are you an employee or ex-employee of Liveperson. Do you still have profile or profiles that you use? Do you still 'occasionally' log on to take money from clients?
Did you get kicked out of several groups from making trouble.' I think that you did.
Why are you writing hate filled posts about other people and telling others they should focus on something good? Do you read your own posts because they are full of hate and obsession? Is this because you are crazy Rachel or a hypocrite?
Tell us why you can update a report that was not originally written by you. You are revealing much to readers.
We will leave the readers to decide but we think you have made a big faux pas...lol..
M
Bourges,Other,
France
Iris-only original authors can update reports
#128UPDATE Employee
Thu, October 16, 2008
Some questions:
ONLY ORIGINAL AUTHORS CAN UPDATE REPORTS. Are you actually posing as Susan from Southhampton?
Are you an employee or ex-employee of Liveperson. Do you still have profile or profiles that you use? Do you still 'occasionally' log on to take money from clients?
Did you get kicked out of several groups from making trouble.' I think that you did.
Why are you writing hate filled posts about other people and telling others they should focus on something good? Do you read your own posts because they are full of hate and obsession? Is this because you are crazy Rachel or a hypocrite?
Tell us why you can update a report that was not originally written by you. You are revealing much to readers.
We will leave the readers to decide but we think you have made a big faux pas...lol..
M
Bourges,Other,
France
Iris-only original authors can update reports
#128UPDATE Employee
Thu, October 16, 2008
Some questions:
ONLY ORIGINAL AUTHORS CAN UPDATE REPORTS. Are you actually posing as Susan from Southhampton?
Are you an employee or ex-employee of Liveperson. Do you still have profile or profiles that you use? Do you still 'occasionally' log on to take money from clients?
Did you get kicked out of several groups from making trouble.' I think that you did.
Why are you writing hate filled posts about other people and telling others they should focus on something good? Do you read your own posts because they are full of hate and obsession? Is this because you are crazy Rachel or a hypocrite?
Tell us why you can update a report that was not originally written by you. You are revealing much to readers.
We will leave the readers to decide but we think you have made a big faux pas...lol..
M
Bourges,Other,
France
Iris-only original authors can update reports
#128UPDATE Employee
Thu, October 16, 2008
Some questions:
ONLY ORIGINAL AUTHORS CAN UPDATE REPORTS. Are you actually posing as Susan from Southhampton?
Are you an employee or ex-employee of Liveperson. Do you still have profile or profiles that you use? Do you still 'occasionally' log on to take money from clients?
Did you get kicked out of several groups from making trouble.' I think that you did.
Why are you writing hate filled posts about other people and telling others they should focus on something good? Do you read your own posts because they are full of hate and obsession? Is this because you are crazy Rachel or a hypocrite?
Tell us why you can update a report that was not originally written by you. You are revealing much to readers.
We will leave the readers to decide but we think you have made a big faux pas...lol..
M
Bourges,Other,
France
Iris - ex-employee or employee?
#128UPDATE Employee
Thu, October 16, 2008
Why do you not take your own advice and stop hating people and attacking people and do something good.
Your posts explain themselves. They show that you are are liar and a hypocrite and spend much time attacking people.
Is that why you have been kicked out of so many groups? Is that why so many people see you are are a liar?
Do you still work on Liveperson or not? Do you still take money from clients?
Do you know it is obvious from your posts that you do the things that you accuse us? We laugh at your stupid lies and excuses, We laugh at you
Goodbye Rachel. The point has been made.
Iris
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
Let me tell you something Medium Silencieux
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Wed, October 15, 2008
You're not much of a Medium... you're more of a SMALL... small minded.
There is no "we" other than perhaps the many voices in your head. Readers at LivePerson are not "employees," they are independent contractors.
The fact that you have used the word "hate" is very sad indeed. You see, it takes a lot of energy to hate someone. To "hate" someone means that they are actually very important in your life.
I don't hate you. I am apathetic toward you. Your existence has no consequence on my self-esteem or my place in the world.
IF you were truly a lightworker (which you are clearly not), you would not say "hate." And people who allegedly group together to "hate" and target someone are known as bullies, cowards and immature people.
The fact that you have "collected" information on me tells me how very important I am in your world, and validates that you have very little going on other than this obsession.
It took ME telling you that putting up a website devoted to hating me was ill-advised. You didn't have the clarity of thought or maturity or common sense to know that.
You see, I wouldn't waste a million years trying to guess who you are. You are inconsequential in the grand scheme of my life. Clearly you need me more than I need you, since you need a target for your hate to divert your attention from your self-loathing.
Let me tell you what you REALLY hate. You hate your life. You hate that you're lonely. You hate that you're needy. You hate that you drive every man away with your crazy antics. You hate that you've gained weight. You hate yourself.
Instead of expending so much energy "hating" me, why don't you put that to better use and start doing something LOVING for another human being? What a concept.
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
Too much energy
#128Consumer Suggestion
Tue, October 14, 2008
There is way too much energy now going into this Iris thing. Who cares. You even used the word "hate". There is something wrong with YOU!!!!
M
Bourges,Other,
France
So many know about your lies Iris
#128UPDATE Employee
Tue, October 14, 2008
You are correct. The website is not such a good idea. We will find a way to give the people who want it the information we have collected on you. We have put it together and we have transcripts and screen shots,
We hate you because you cause too many problems with your lies. You try to blame others but you are wrong. In one million years you would never guess which employees we are.
But maybe you guess we have a lot of proof that you are a scammer...lol...
We notice you try to blame everyone but yourself,
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
Iris
#128Consumer Suggestion
Mon, October 13, 2008
You are right. These people are really mentally off balanced. Hey, if they start a anti Iris website good for them. Your infamous. lol.
Be good.
Iris
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
For Karen
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Mon, October 13, 2008
Haven't you realized by now that trying to argue logic is simply a futile use of energy? You are trying to have a battle of wits with people who are unarmed.
These people enjoy staying in the blame game and their dysfunction. They have no interest in getting emotionally healthy and moving on with their lives. They want to remain victims for attention.
Now someone is threatening to start an anti-Iris website. These sickos have nothing better to do with their lives. The Janice sickness is spreading.
I will keep dispensing the message that psychic readings are a WASTE of money, and if that message only reaches 1 in 5 people, at least that's 1 person who has a wakeup call.
I applaud your efforts here, but it seems you and I are the minority when it comes to having sanity.
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
WTF
#128Consumer Suggestion
Thu, October 09, 2008
S, wtf are YOU talking about. What makes you assume that I am angry or bitter over any keen reading? What makes you think that I am even remotely like you sicko perma victims. You are the one who is insane around here.
Let me explain to you what the difference is between me and the perma vicitms S so you can get it right and no longer go for this bubble gum psychology BS you're trying to put forth.
1. I NEVER used keen for relationship issues! Finances as I stated before.
2. The reader was bogus. Yes.
3. Do I deem myself a victim? No. Why, because it was MY personal choice to use the service and did not feel it necessary TO GO BACK AND TRY NUMEROUS OTHER READERS WASTING MY MONEY. Frustrating myself. Becoming bitter angry and complain but all the while continuing to go back SPEND MY MONEY ON THE SAME SITE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE REAL!
4. Do I identify myself with all the nutjobs on this site who complain about kasamba/liveperson, this psychic, that psychic NO! Do you know why, BECAUSE I STOPPED GETTING READINGS AND DID NOT FEEL THE NEED TO CONTACT NUMEROUS PSYCHICS.
**You see S you are FOREVER shootin off at the mouth but NEVER know what you're talking about. How many times are you going to open mouth and insert foot?**
NO I am NOTHING like the perma victims. I choose NOT to allow myself to become a permanent victim. That does not equate anger, bitterness or ANY STUPID THING you stated in your post. The difference with me S is that I am smart enough to know better. Nice try you skag but it did not work. You keep trying to paint me with your brush but I keep throwing turpentine on it you silly woman. Grow up. Because I speak the TRUTH I am angry bitter, etc. Oh please. What YOU need is a life. Can't wait for your next "stupid" Karen post! Go get yourself some help and try to figure out why you LOVE to wear the perma victim shoe so snuggly. Perhaps its the sense of actually belonging to something for once in your loser skag life!
If you want to play psychologist why don't you try TAKING A ACTUAL CLASS! Better yet get UP and get some excercise.
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
WTF
#128Consumer Suggestion
Thu, October 09, 2008
S, wtf are YOU talking about. What makes you assume that I am angry or bitter over any keen reading? What makes you think that I am even remotely like you sicko perma victims. You are the one who is insane around here.
Let me explain to you what the difference is between me and the perma vicitms S so you can get it right and no longer go for this bubble gum psychology BS you're trying to put forth.
1. I NEVER used keen for relationship issues! Finances as I stated before.
2. The reader was bogus. Yes.
3. Do I deem myself a victim? No. Why, because it was MY personal choice to use the service and did not feel it necessary TO GO BACK AND TRY NUMEROUS OTHER READERS WASTING MY MONEY. Frustrating myself. Becoming bitter angry and complain but all the while continuing to go back SPEND MY MONEY ON THE SAME SITE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE REAL!
4. Do I identify myself with all the nutjobs on this site who complain about kasamba/liveperson, this psychic, that psychic NO! Do you know why, BECAUSE I STOPPED GETTING READINGS AND DID NOT FEEL THE NEED TO CONTACT NUMEROUS PSYCHICS.
**You see S you are FOREVER shootin off at the mouth but NEVER know what you're talking about. How many times are you going to open mouth and insert foot?**
NO I am NOTHING like the perma victims. I choose NOT to allow myself to become a permanent victim. That does not equate anger, bitterness or ANY STUPID THING you stated in your post. The difference with me S is that I am smart enough to know better. Nice try you skag but it did not work. You keep trying to paint me with your brush but I keep throwing turpentine on it you silly woman. Grow up. Because I speak the TRUTH I am angry bitter, etc. Oh please. What YOU need is a life. Can't wait for your next "stupid" Karen post! Go get yourself some help and try to figure out why you LOVE to wear the perma victim shoe so snuggly. Perhaps its the sense of actually belonging to something for once in your loser skag life!
If you want to play psychologist why don't you try TAKING A ACTUAL CLASS! Better yet get UP and get some excercise.
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
Karen is right...
#128Consumer Comment
Tue, October 07, 2008
In that she did not get readings from Kasamba/Liveperson.
She was ripped off by Keen. You see, Karen is actually the same as the rest of us, she went to a "psychic" site and got readings that were fake.
To bad she chooses to forget that. If she remebered then she would more likely actually post a comment on this board that made sense.
However, for some reason, her bitterness toward the people that RIPPED HER OFF has been directed at others who have been ripped off by another site.
This accounts for her abusiveness, and nonsense posts that sway from one view to another.
You could call her a hypocrite as well. Maybe she feels the need to attack people who have been ripped off by fake psychics in the manner in which she does, in order to mentally remove herself from her own mistakes and misfortunes at the hands of unscruplulous liars and frauds.
Sorry, I am trying to psycho-analyse here. But I am no therapist. She probably is just a trouble maker...going from one site to the next shouting her mouth off about stuff she knows nothing about.
Very unstable.
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
Karen is right...
#128Consumer Comment
Tue, October 07, 2008
In that she did not get readings from Kasamba/Liveperson.
She was ripped off by Keen. You see, Karen is actually the same as the rest of us, she went to a "psychic" site and got readings that were fake.
To bad she chooses to forget that. If she remebered then she would more likely actually post a comment on this board that made sense.
However, for some reason, her bitterness toward the people that RIPPED HER OFF has been directed at others who have been ripped off by another site.
This accounts for her abusiveness, and nonsense posts that sway from one view to another.
You could call her a hypocrite as well. Maybe she feels the need to attack people who have been ripped off by fake psychics in the manner in which she does, in order to mentally remove herself from her own mistakes and misfortunes at the hands of unscruplulous liars and frauds.
Sorry, I am trying to psycho-analyse here. But I am no therapist. She probably is just a trouble maker...going from one site to the next shouting her mouth off about stuff she knows nothing about.
Very unstable.
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
Karen is right...
#128Consumer Comment
Tue, October 07, 2008
In that she did not get readings from Kasamba/Liveperson.
She was ripped off by Keen. You see, Karen is actually the same as the rest of us, she went to a "psychic" site and got readings that were fake.
To bad she chooses to forget that. If she remebered then she would more likely actually post a comment on this board that made sense.
However, for some reason, her bitterness toward the people that RIPPED HER OFF has been directed at others who have been ripped off by another site.
This accounts for her abusiveness, and nonsense posts that sway from one view to another.
You could call her a hypocrite as well. Maybe she feels the need to attack people who have been ripped off by fake psychics in the manner in which she does, in order to mentally remove herself from her own mistakes and misfortunes at the hands of unscruplulous liars and frauds.
Sorry, I am trying to psycho-analyse here. But I am no therapist. She probably is just a trouble maker...going from one site to the next shouting her mouth off about stuff she knows nothing about.
Very unstable.
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
Karen is right...
#128Consumer Comment
Tue, October 07, 2008
In that she did not get readings from Kasamba/Liveperson.
She was ripped off by Keen. You see, Karen is actually the same as the rest of us, she went to a "psychic" site and got readings that were fake.
To bad she chooses to forget that. If she remebered then she would more likely actually post a comment on this board that made sense.
However, for some reason, her bitterness toward the people that RIPPED HER OFF has been directed at others who have been ripped off by another site.
This accounts for her abusiveness, and nonsense posts that sway from one view to another.
You could call her a hypocrite as well. Maybe she feels the need to attack people who have been ripped off by fake psychics in the manner in which she does, in order to mentally remove herself from her own mistakes and misfortunes at the hands of unscruplulous liars and frauds.
Sorry, I am trying to psycho-analyse here. But I am no therapist. She probably is just a trouble maker...going from one site to the next shouting her mouth off about stuff she knows nothing about.
Very unstable.
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
Give me a break
#128Consumer Suggestion
Tue, October 07, 2008
Joy give me a break will you please! Too bad you don't know what your talking about. You're starting to sound as BAD as janice. (probably are one of janice's multiple personalities) You have officially joined the perma victim group.
I do NOT get readings on kasamba/liveperson! I am NOT a reader on there either! If you did not have your janice bullshit blinders on you could SEE the a bit better.
Control freak? Lmfao. NO DEAR THAT WOULD BE YOUR BELOVED jANICE! Maybe ONE day you will wake up and SMELL THE FOLGERS.
How about this, I will STOP posting here if janice and her cult followers do the same. Deal? lol. Of course not because somewhere in your sick twisted brains you think by posting the same crap over and over again that its actually helping someone. All it is doing is substituting ONE ADDICTION FOR ANOTHER.
Do you think I care what you people are saying about me in the group? No! See that is the difference between the sane and insane. The insane care and the sane could care less. The sane keeps holding up mirrors for the insane to take a look at themselves.
Joy
NA,New York,
U.S.A.
and how long you want to be a judgmental control freak
#128Consumer Comment
Mon, October 06, 2008
Karen - you make most of us laugh that post here and are honest clients -- you come in here and make fun of clients who want to share experiences and avoid any future ripoff. I do believe you are a reader on LP or else you would not care who revealed anything or discussed anything. You wouldnt consider it targeting LP nor would you consider the people discussing their experiences as "dependent". Most of us view you as a control freak always putting down others. You say you used KAS and have moved on from it. I doubt that as you still post here. Therefore you are most likely a fraud reader, only they would be concerned with coming to ripoff or caring that clients share experiences. Most of us believe in true psychic gifts, we just know and have share those we felt we were ripped off by so that others could think about that, and maybe choose someone else if they so wish. That sounds pretty independent to me. Choices, not name calling.
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
The Reason..........
#128Consumer Suggestion
Sun, October 05, 2008
The reason janice posted her personal information on this site is because she WANTS someone from this site to contact her via this information. Especially on her job. This way she can play the victim on her job and to her neighbors. She invites harassment but no one is stupid enough to fall for this bull. To go as far to post as susan and maryanne is just sick. Everyone knows shes a sicko except for the victims (janice is the one victimizing them with manipulation and lies) in her group and the no lifers who constantly arise to her defense whom very well could be all her multiple personalities because no one could be that stupid or could they? Someone should start a anti janice yahoo group around here. Nah. Then she would be over there acting a d**n fool. Let her rot in her own hell which has become her mind.
The group is obsessed with Kasamba/Liveperson website and ripoff report website. Shamefully manipulated by janice. I pray that one day the group members will tire of the blatant janice manipulation and lies and move on. This depends on how long they want to remain in the dependent personality stage.
Stacey
Dallas,Texas,
U.S.A.
unbelievable
#128Consumer Comment
Thu, October 02, 2008
there is no such thing as "psychics"
Stop throwing your money away
Get real
If there is a real "psychic" out there here are ??? for you
Where is Bin Laden
Where is Casey Anthony's child?
Where is Jimmy Hoffa?
Did you not predict 9/11 - if you did what is the reason you told no one
Could have saved alot of lives
Enough said - Psychic are scam artists only interested in your money
Iris
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
Yes Bohemian Moon or Janice
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Thu, October 02, 2008
And you are welcome to tell LP. All they care about is making money. They have no intention of cleaning house. They allow spells to be sold. They allow frauds to give readings. They do NO screening process.
Janice is the one with the Napoleon complex, along with her other multiple personalities. If anyone dares to question her sanity, she and her minion Kacho are quick to silence them.
My message was and continues to be - STOP GETTING READINGS! Janice does not want that message heard. One has to wonder why.
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
One more thing....
#128Consumer Comment
Wed, October 01, 2008
Iris, before you come out with the "S is Bohemian Moon" claptrap again.....I had a reading with David James and thought it generic and fake.
I wouldnt be saying that about my husband would I.
Iris
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
Oh Patti, say it isn't so...
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Wed, October 01, 2008
Patti - Are you a reader? I'm starting to wonder, based on some of your posts.
I can't believe you fell for the Bohemian Moon bullshit, which is almost as thick as her husband's readings.
Everything she posted is information readily available on the Internet. Her posting of the information has nothing to do with the fact that she and her husband give readings to Janice and want to stay on her good side.
She has a personal vendetta against me simply because I dared to chime in and AGREE with other victims about the frauds, specifically exposing her husband as one of them. That is the only reason she is targeting me.
The problem is that the evidence of her husband's fake reading is irrefutable.
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
Wrong Iris....
#128Consumer Comment
Wed, October 01, 2008
The group was not going "perfectly well" because you were in it.
People were sick of your rants and dictatorship and your aggressive and challenging posts.
People were sick of hearing from a hypocrite that slates psychics and LP but continues to work on there.
You were challenged about that even, including your extortionate 20 dollar a minute fee that you often charge for people to have "readings" with you.
To which you responded with a load of old balloney. That you are merely catching the worst addicted customers who will pay that sort of money for readings to stop them from having any more.
By the way, does LP know you use their site to do this noble deed?
Do they know that you reel in customers of LP to WARN them to stay away from readings full stop?
Do they know that you rant on this site and any other that you can get onto, about how people should stop getting readings from there?
Hmmmmm
Maybe someone should tell them.
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
Same old c%$&*
#128Consumer Comment
Wed, October 01, 2008
I have spent most of the last two weeks in hospital recovering from a seious accident. I was released for a few days but my doctor felt that the serious head injuries that I sustained in the accident and the damage to my right shoulder warranted further investigation.
The results are both good and bad. For me the good aspect is that I am expected to make a full recovery. The bad aspect is that I am not penmitted to go back to work for two weeks and must have ongoing physiotherapy on my shoulder. I am not permitted to drive for another week.
For the idiots the news is not so good. I was given a a range of psychiatric and neurological tests. Sorry but I am sane, and those who have, over the past year made alternative diagnosises are all a bunch of wankers.
I was only dischaged yesterday and have spent the day cleaning the house (difficult with an injusred right shoulder-too twice as long). I have not read many of the messages in either the group or on these reports. I willl do that tomorrow.
To those who sent private and wrote public 'get well' messages -thankyou. They meant a lot to.
To those who used me as a scapegoat for whatever...tell someone who cares-I don't.
I AM STILL STANDING!!
For those who think i am insane, deranged..whatever...the tests show that I am am 100% sane.
.
Patti
Madison,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
I think I might have been wrong
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Wed, October 01, 2008
I think I owe Bohemian Moon an apology. Anyone who puts out their personal information like that probably isn't lying. Although I really must wonder what the reasoning behind belonging to a group like Janice's. That I find suspect unless it was a situation of keeping friends close and enemies closer. Surely she had to know that at one point David James would be subject to ridicule.
I think I was wrong. I hope she forgives me.
Iris
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
Another thing about B.M. became perfectly clear
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Wed, October 01, 2008
As an aside, I am laughing hysterically as I realized that the iniitials for Bohemian Moon are B.M. If that's not poetic, I don't know what is!
Anyway, I realized that B.M. (Bohemian Moon) said that she and her tattoed Wiccan son were masters at hacking into computers.
I remember that members in the WAHM group had expressed concern that some Kasamba expert had been hacking accounts! Now that B.M. has admitted that she and mini-B.M. like to track people's computers, it all makes sense.
And, um, which would be considered stalking?
(a) Someone RESEARCHING a bullsh*t artist and exposing them... or
(b) Someone hacking computers?
Food for thought. Digest that B.M.
Iris
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
Bohemian Moon and her husband David-James are psychic con artists
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Tue, September 30, 2008
"It is absolutely no secret that David James and I are married, lol. Whomever thinks that this is a deep dark secret that someone has recently uncovered is truly grasping at straws."
It WAS a secret that you were using a different name on the Yahoo group and were NOT forthright about your identity. Members felt betrayed when they discovered you were really Bohemian Moon. You didn't like that you were busted.
"I am a busy gal."
Clearly not too busy to hide on Janice's website and defend the honor of your husband when members shared that they had all gotten fake readings from him.
"As a matter of fact I had a few readings with the lovely Iris, among others."
You never had a reading with me.
"She did not get the response that she felt that she deserved from uncovering what she felt was a golden dugget of dirt, she went searching the internet for anything else she could uncover."
This sounds like more of Janice's handiwork. She is a master at wreaking havoc and having multiple identities. She has gleefully admitted to her stalking techniques and likes pitting people against each other. It is part of her illness. You're not a very good psychic, Merry, because you are way off base here.
"She also emailed my husband on his private email stating: Put a muzzle on Merry."
I already admitted to this about 2 posts up. Get with the program. Try to keep up! Did you think you were somehow beating me to the punch to make me look bad? I have nothing to hide, unlike you.
You vomited a lengthy post of personal information about yourself, thinking I was going to post it here? Get over yourself. You are not that important in the grand scheme of the planet. You are merely a zit in upstate New York. I have better things to do than "out" you on ROR. You, however, seem to have LOTS of time on your hands, because you wasted no time coming here to somehow "out" me. Bravo Merry. You are truly a psychic anyone can trust! It's good to know that it is not beneath you to behave this way.
Do you think anyone truly cares how you met David-James? I'm sure at some point he realized marrying you was cheaper than paying you for it every time.
I'm a pro stalker? Really? I'm flattered. Shall I put that on my resume? Even if I had the time to "stalk" you, I wouldn't. But as you'll recall, you chose to attack me, and attempted to publicly humiliate me. Did you expect no repercussions? Do you think you can just come after someone and not be called on it?
Ultimately, you did more damage to yourself than I ever could. I would never have posted your address on ROR. You claim I somehow Googled your screen names to "every forum" you posted on? Really? Do you have some secret access to my computer that I don't know about? Again, your ego and overly active imagination betray you.
"I was taking the high road, and stalking people over the internet really isn't my thing."
Yeah, right. Posting on ROR is taking the high road AND isn't stalking. LOL... Does anyone really buy your bullshit? Oh yeah, they do. Clients at Kasamba pay you and your husband big bucks for bullshit.
Also, bringing up that I changed my Kasamba name is VERY old news. I've covered that topic in past threads, so, um, you're a dollar short and a day late there.
And right, you and hubby don't share transcripts. Uh-huh. Sure.
For the record, your husband DOES fish for information and is a great "cold" reader. He knows the techniques to give the impression that he's actually reading. I've tested him several times over the years and he has been consistent. The bullshit never changes. He makes a generic statement, and when you reveal he was wrong, he changes his response on the next sentence.
With me, he asked that wonderful: "Who's the other woman?" That's the classic way to fish information. A real psychic doesn't ask. He/she tells you.
Then he went on to tell me that the man in question was "attracted" to me, but afraid to ask me out "properly." LOL.... Well, the man was someone I'd been seeing for FOUR YEARS and had even LIVED WITH FOR A YEAR! LMAO... That's how accurate David-James is.
But wait, his accuracy gets better! When I let him know that the guy wasn't just a friend, but was a partner, David-James modified what he said as: "He's afraid to ask you out again." (Are you laughing yet, fellow victims of bullshit psychics?)
Then he predicted a happy ending for us. NOPE.
I'd say David-James is a master bullshit artist, but definitely not a psychic.
Now go to Bohemian Moon's feedback, and find all the times that her husband, David-James, gave her 5 stars and wrote comments to suggest he was just a client.
Let's drive the point home with what Merry just said in her last post:
"I am not going to sit here and try and convince anyone of our ethics."
Merry, you have shown your ethics. Thanks.
Iris
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
Bohemian Moon shows her true colors
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Tue, September 30, 2008
Thank you Bohemian Moon, or should I say, Merry Rozzelle, for proving exactly what I've been saying about the "psychics" on LP.
You have just proven my point.
You have the audacity to claim "integrity" in your post, yet spend the entire post thinking you've somehow "gotten" me or exposed me. There wasn't much integrity in your post, and anyone with intelligence will see you for who you are.
Your accusations are outlandish. You also seem to think you know who I am. But you don't. However, you have just shown who YOU are, in more ways than one. In addition to posting personally identifiable information about yourself, you have shown your character, or lack thereof. You have also shown that you are capable of violating confidentiality and privacy laws, similar to how you did on Janice's group.
The group was doing quite fine until you attacked me. Do you not remember that? How short your memory is. We were all sharing information about David-James, all sharing our common experiences that his readings are BULLSHIT.
You jumped to his defense. Of course. You're his wife! But you weren't posting under the name BohemianMoon. You were calling yourself Hobbits Moon. So you were NOT being honest about who you were.
Meanwhile, I was posting as Metafizzical and not trying to hide at all.
You didn't like that we all confirmed that your husband's readings were fake. So how did you respond? You personally came after ME. Just me. Targeted me.
Did you expect me to just roll over and take that? You thought you were somehow doing damage to me there, thinking that posting personally identifiable information about ME would somehow hurt me.
YOU struck the first blow, Merry. I had nothing against you personally. YOU came after me, not the other way around.
I then wondered WHY on earth would HobbitsMoon so adamantly defend David-James? It was because your real identity was Bohemian Moon, and you are married to him. Then, digging into your own feedback, I saw NUMEROUS ratings from your husband... and it all made sense.
The Yahoo group was doing just fine until your little hissy fit because people dared to expose your husband's bullshit readings. It was YOUR personal attack of me that caused people to realize that the group was not safe.
YOU brought it about, Merry, not me. Do not even put this on me. Do not dare throw around the word integrity, with the post you just put on ROR.
That is grounds for permanent expulsion from LP, which is already in the works. It might even get your husband kicked off the site as well. Where you really showed your stupidity was in providing your real identity, because now it is easy to lodge a lawsuit against you.
Lucky for you, I am not Janice. I am not demented. I do not STALK people. Never did, never will. My goal has been, and continues to be -- to get people to STOP THEIR PSYCHIC ADDICTIONS. PERIOD.
So come at me, Merry. Please do. Each time you create a post like that and then claim to have "integrity," it just supports my contention that you are anything but a lightworker.
:) Cheers.
Sharon
Racine,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Here she goes again.. .. Patti you're beginning to sound like a broken record again
#128UPDATE Employee
Mon, September 29, 2008
Funny how you suddenly have time away from your wonderfully busy life the minute an opportunity affords itself for you to bash your favorite kasamba experts! Lets see David James, one of your favs. Melodie. You love to bash her don't you. Penny Babson. another of your favorites.
You really do sound like a broken record. Or maybe we should say JEALOUS EXPERT because that's exactly what you are!
Lisa
Internet,New York,
U.S.A.
Care to Explain this, Iris?
#128Consumer Suggestion
Mon, September 29, 2008
Iris while you're so busy scrutinizing and making accusations about the ETHICS of other Kasamba / LP experts, why is that you still have an active profile on the site, where anyone who cares to look can see that your very first feedback was given to you by another expert (Moon Mystress Jennifer) and that you also gave her feedback (under your old account Empress Emma) on that very same day?
Are you saying that you and Moon Mystress Jennifer were NOT padding each other's feedback at that time? As anyone who wants to check both your feedback and hers for the Aug 20, 2003 date can see, you and she left each other feedback and it sure looks to me like a way to jump start your ratings.
And while we're at it, since you're so loudly trying to force everyone to adopt YOUR view which is that no one on Kasamba / Liveperson is psychic and they're all a bunch of scam artists, why is it that until very recently your own expert profile made the following claims:
ARE YOU READY for an in-depth, insightful reading that will knock your socks off? I am an intuitive empath with specialties in
clairvoyance, clairaudience and clairsentience. I tune into the energies and feelings that swirl around you at any given moment.
I have been doing readings for 20 years with private clients, and have been on Kasamba for almost 2 years now. Because I am a certified
and licensed professional, you can benefit from my many years of experience and training.
With gypsies and witches in my bloodline and past lives, the messages from me and my guides are descended from ancient wisdoms and truths.
I pride myself as having tremendous honesty and integrity, and will never "sugar coat" a reading or suggest you do anything that would be
detrimental to your best interests.
As a clairaudient, I HEAR messages... as a clairvoyant, I SEE information. ... and as an empath, I FEEL what you and others are
feeling!
I am here to help you with your relationship and career questions and life path. Through my readings you will be given a reflection that
will help you understand where you have been, where you are going, and how to get what you want. While there is a certain amount of
destiny and fate that comes into play, free will still gives you choices and options. Do not contact me unless you are prepared for
honesty.
I can also guide you with meditations and candle work to help manifest better results. Although I won't cast spells that affect the will of another person, I do offer spellwork to many clients, and it is often very effective.
Please note that no one is 100% accurate, and a lot depends on free will, so be open to the changing forces in your life. The more ready
you are to bend, the better you will adapt. Also it is important to understand that we usually see possibilities and probabilities, but
nothing is written in stone. Nothing is guaranteed or definite. All outcomes can change, because people and circumstances change. In
terms of time frames, the same thing holds true, because "time" operates on a plane of spirit and energy, different from our physical world.
All readings are for entertainment purposes only. Please seek the advice of an attorney for legal advice, or a licensed health care
professional for medical questions.
Love and light and peace to you.
Are you saying now that the above was all a lie? And that you never were a practicing psychic for all those years or that you never did take money from clients for your psychic readings? That you never were clairvoyant, clairaudient or clairsentient, and that your meditations and candle work -- or the gypsies and witches in your bloodline -- were all just bogus claims designed to trick clients into believing you had psychic powers?
And Iris since you're so vocal in telling the clients that they've ALL been ripped off by the experts, even going so far as to tell them to demand their money back, are we to assume you're paying the clients back for the money you ripped off from them as well? If so I'll be first in line. For those who would like to see what a transcript of Iris's "psychic" sessions looks like please do feel free to join the yahoo group because I will be posting all of mine in the next few days.
Bohemianmoon
Upstate,New York,
U.S.A.
This will be the first and the last time I respond to any of this
#128Consumer Comment
Mon, September 29, 2008
To whomever is reading this:
It is absolutely no secret that David James and I are married, lol. Whomever thinks that this is a deep dark secret that someone has recently uncovered is truly grasping at straws.
David and I have had a website, complete with public forums open to all, and a blog, for over a year. One Google search for either of our names would have brought up our site, wherein you could have read about the both of us, Bohemian Moon and David James in each of our "about" sections. My blog, that is linked to our public forums and our main page, clearly has a "Who is Bohemian Moon" section there. Not to mention David's radio show guests that I update every week in the "radio show" section of our forums. We both also post on our open forums, and have since we launched them this late spring.
Kasamba was well aware that we are married as does Liveperson. I don't read a whole lot on Liveperson, as I take care of our site, do readings and dream analysis on our site, take care of the reading studio here on our land, schedule and commuunicate with all of David's radio guests, write my blog, work in my art studio, and take care of our home and our son.
I am a busy gal.
In other words people, no secret.
As for Janice's group, she had a group last year when all of this hubaloo was going on on this fine site, and I joined her group as I too was a client on Kasamba, as many, many readers are. As a matter of fact I had a few readings with the lovely Iris, among others, as well as well as my husband, David James, before we knew each other on a personal level. I have also read him on occasion before we were "together" in a committed relationship.
As for Janice, she had emailed me last fall and inquired if I was David James' wife. Before I could respond, she had deleted me from the group.
I thought nothing about it, really, until this spring when I received another email from her, apologizing for deleting me without waiting for a response and asked me to join her group. I did.
That is how I "know" Janice, and it has been the extent of my personal communications with her. To my knowledge I have never read her. I do not ask for any information in my readings; no names or birthdates or other personal information, so if Janice, or anyone else for that matter has had a reading with me, you will have to ask them.
As for the Yahoo Group. Yes, I related my information on a few readings I got from Iris, under a few different of her reading names. I did not upload any transcripts of same because it is against the TOS of Liveperson for an Expert to do so, even if I was relating a transcript as a client.
To my knowledge, on that Group I revealed nothing personal about Iris/Rachel, other than her real name. Which is Rachel. That is no secret Rachel. I believe that you forgot that you were called out by your first name on WAHM years ago. Your first name is not yet another deeply buried secret.
Iris/Rachel lost it completely and demanded that I be removed from the group, after she spent a couple of hours on Google, trying to find everything she could on me by using my Yahoo Group screen name Thehobbitsmoon.
When it took her to a psychic forum in which I had posted regarding potential guests for David's Radio show, she thought she had hit pay dirt, and immediately came back to that group to tell all of the members that I was not only David James' wife, but I was also a reader. Unfortunatley for her, it was old news and no one was really impressed.
She did not get the response that she felt that she deserved from uncovering what she felt was a golden dugget of dirt, she went searching the internet for anything else she could uncover.
She proceeded to find a years old dating profile of mine in which I do not believe that I ever even uploaded a picture to, and therefore never received any replies, and I forgot about it, actually, in the ensuing years. Apparently it is still up in cyber land. It had my legal name on it and Iris/Rachel immediately brought it back to the public yahoo group and not only listed my legal name, she linked the dating profile. What she didn't realize at the time was that the Yahoo group was being moderated and when her posts didn't post, she made numerous others embedding the actual dating profile in them. So these actually never showed on the Yahoo Group, but that was her intention.
She also emailed my husband on his private email stating:
From: Nom dePlume
Subject: ...
To: davidjames (ending numbers removed, but Iris has them and because of the upstanding woman she is, I am sure that she will give them to you if you ask nicely) @yahoo.com
Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 2:18 AM
Put a muzzle on Merry.
http://ppi.searchy.net/viewmember.php3?id=110030
Yes, Merry is my first name, though many, many people know that. That too is no secret. That address is to the dating profile long forgotten. She thought that it would cause a riff between David and I, or at least that is what she was hoping for, as the date of that profile was a few months after David first traveled to the States from Scotland to meet me and my son. Scotland is a long way from the States and it is usally prudent, when two people live an ocean away from each other, don't put your eggs all in one basket. David too had a dating profile up in the UK at the same time I did in the US, and they remained until later that summer wherein David and I made a commitment to each other formally. So sorry Iris/Rachel. It did not cause the riff that you were planning on/hoping for. But it was a nice walk down memory lane for us, and for that we thank you.
What was not readily known to many was my last name, and since Iris/Rachel tried to post it publically once and was not successful, she is currently looking for the perfect opportunity to do so. Lord knows she feels that this site would be a great venue, and as such, I will beat her to the punch. And not only will I beat her to the punch with my legal name, I will beat her to the punch with the old dating profile too, as that above address may not make it through ROR censors. I know she was itching to post it, but figured she would do it in stages. My last name first, then in another, post the dating profile. Once you are stalked by someone, you are on to their MO. And this is not the first time Iris/Rachel has been a stalkin', no siree. She fancies herself a pro. Unfortunately, she didn't count on someone such as myself that can't be bullied.
Ready?
Details for account no: 110030
Name: Merry Rozzelle (Click on name to email)
Gender: female
Date of Birth: 07 September 1961 -> 47 Years.
Location: Fort Lauderdale , Florida , Uzbekistan
Primary Language: English
Other Languages: ( Empty... )
Religion: Spiritual
Education: BFA Studio Art
Profession: Artists/other
Hobbies Galleries, reading, nature
Would like to be friends with: Male from 38 to 46 years
Prefer to get mail by: Email only
Postal Addres: None...
Something to say: I am looking forward to connecting and sharing ideas about interests, mutual or othewise, ideas and life in general:)
Member since: 7 May 2005 18:49 GMT
And Iris/Rachel's staking did not end there. She Googled my screen names to every forum that I posted on, on the internet. I was a frequent member of a site called "Loving You" that has a section for online relationships and long distance relationships. When the Scotsman and I made a formal commitment, I posted there often giving and getting support and advice from others that were in relationships such as I, particularly two country relationships. I had posted intermittedly since David and I were married in December of 2006, and I had not been there at all in probably a few months, when the other night, my inutition told me to go there. I did and lo and behold, a notice popped up that I had a private message, which was odd since I hadn't posted there in months. Lo and behold, this is what the message said:
cestmoi
New Member
Registered: Sep 2008
Posts: 0
Hi
Hello Merry.
What goes around comes around.
Stay tuned.
Your Secret Follower
09/12/08 1:45 AM
Yes, Iris/Rachel the stalker strikes again. She also didn't count on us having a computer whiz in residence with us wherein we can track and uncover a world of information from just one email or posting, eeven if they use programs to try and mask ISP, etc. So the "joke" is on her on that aspect.
I have never responded to any of the foregoing, except on my blog, and I chose not to name her there, as I was taking the high road, and stalking people over the internet really isn't my thing.
So there you have it. I have nothing to hide, never have and never will. Like my husband, I have never changed my reader name. There is no reason to. It takes a lot of time, patience and resources to make a brand. Professional readers do not change their names. The only reason one would, would be to try and fly under the radar. You may want to ask Iris/Rachel how very many times she has changed hers.
As for David James and I sharing transcripts, well, believe what you want, you will anyway. That is up for you to decide. If you go through my ratings, you won't find any claims of an miraculous reader. And as stated, I never even ask for one iota of information from someone. As far as I know, my husband doesn't either, as he didn't when he read me way back when. He may have changed, but you would have to ask him.
My husband works 12-16 hours a day because that is his work ethic. He has always worked that amount of time and rarely takes days off. That is who he has been since I met him and he worked the same in the UK, except her was also doing pub venues.
As I stated, I am not going to sit here and try and convince anyone of our ethics. Believe what you will. That is in your hands.
There is nothing out on the internet, or in my in-person life, that would give me cause to try and hide. Hiding is not my gig, and since Iris was about to plaster her good as gold (in her mind) "dig ups" on me here, well I saved her some time.
Peace and good~
Merry
Patti
Madison,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Well this gets more and more interesting.
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sun, September 28, 2008
Janice and Bohemian Moon (a/k/a S) are friends. David James and Bohemian Moon are married. No wonder David James is on-line for readings day and night. It IS two people running that account. No wonder Bohemiam Moon zoomed up in the ratings so quickly. She was getting client information from David James AND padding her ratings.
I've said it time and time again. The unethical and dishonest readers who should be exposed on ROR are not. The readers who are really sharing info and manipulating ratings are not exposed. Here is a prime example that proves my point.
Good work, Iris. I look forward with great interest to your future posts. What would be the best service you could provide is posting client names so that honest and hard working readers can protect themselves from spiteful and dishonest clients.
Iris
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
More insight regarding Janice (aka S) and her rants...
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sun, September 28, 2008
1) you were making people feel uncomfortable with your continuous hitler style rants.
"Hitler" style rants? So my preaching that everyone should STOP getting psychic readings is a problem? LOL... Ok, where's the logic in that? Comparing me to Hitler? Hitler killed innocent Jews. I am trying to save women from wasting money on psychic readings. Where's the nexus?
2) you contradicted yourself over and over...regarding LP, which you state you want everyone not to touch with a bargepole but remain an expert there yourself.
Yes I am still an expert. And my goal with every caller is to get them to STOP calling psychics. I spend hours a day for free. The other day a caller clicked hire even though I asked her to NOT click hire. I earned $3 for 5 minutes of my time. I told her to MOVE ON WITH HER LIFE!
3) evidence was provided that it is indeed YOU that stalk other experts. Very worrying indeed. The evidence provided, shows you go to great lengths and efforts in order to stalk people.
Evidence that I stalk other experts? LOL. What "evidence?" Janice, this is more of your delusions. I go to great lengths and efforts? Again I ask, what are you talking about? You can't make blanket accusations/statements like that, which are without merit.
4) you tried to take over a group that IS NOT YOUR GROUP. You wanted every expert banned from it, it to be monitored and controlled so that only certain people you see fit can join, when it has been stated from the beginning that ANYONE can be a member, download files and unjoin if they so wish.
I had no interest in taking over the group. I wanted to protect the members from Janice's insanity. And yes, I wanted disruptive experts banned, such as Bohemian Moon, who proved with her posts there that she has zero integrity. She posted private information, sharing it with the whole group. That is grounds for me to go after her LEGALLY, which I will definitely do. I have print screens of everything she said, and that violation of privacy is grounds for a lawsuit against her, as well as proof that information on LP is shared betwen experts. Bohemian Moon knew things about me, that she ONLY could have known from other experts, since I had never had a reading with her!
5) You send threatening emails.
To whom? What were the threats? If you are referring to me telling David-James to put a muzzle on his wife, that's not a threat.
"It took a lot to convince Janice to ban you....I told her months ago not to let you anywhere near, but she didnt listen. But again I have been proven right."
YOU told her months ago? Really? Who are you?
"Yes Janice does write incoherently at times."
At times? LMAO. Janice ALWAYS writes incoherently. She is unstable.
"But her biggest fault is her bad judge of character. Like letting you in and confiding in you."
Confiding in me? Janice was the one who did the betraying. She took the content of private emails and posted them for the entire group to read!
"I knew you were no good. I was right."
If being "no good" is equivalent to wanting each and every psychic addict to HEAL and stop calling psychics, and being "no good" is publicly admitting that I was wrong to trust/support Janice, because her psychosis is out of control? Then so be it! I had hoped that I could guide HER WACKNESS to a certain level of sane behavior. Clearly I was wrong. Some people are clueless. Janice is one of them, and her followers unfortunately are equally clueless and naively trusting. Now, instead of being conned by fake psychics, they're being conned by Janice, who is taking advantage of their trust just as much, if not worse!
"Go and play with your new little chums...that just about sums you up...slippery as an eel."
My new little chums? LOL... That's such an Australian phrase, Janice.
Iris
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
S = JANICE or BOHEMIAN MOON
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sun, September 28, 2008
Everything you mention in your post "S" is something that ONLY Janice would have known, and would have shared with her Psychic Friend "Bohemian Moon."
In addition, I do not stalk experts. Your lack of clear thinking in your post proves that you are Janice.
I was the only person in the Yahoo group with an actual brain. I was repeatedly telling everyone to STOP getting readings. When many of the members were attacking David-James, I provided additional proof of his fake readings. Then David-James wife (Bohemian Moon) came to his defense. When I posted evidence that David-James has given his wife positive feedback (manipulated her ratings), Janice didn't want that information mentioned. You see, Janice is friends with them and still gets readings from them.
Janice has no real interest in stopping people from getting readings. She wants them to stay addicted... because SHE is addicted.
Her rants are ridiculous messes. Anyone with HALF a brain can assess that Janice is not right in the head. So "S" or Janice or Bohemian Moon -- your attacks of me have no merit.
So run back to your little Yahoo group and keep crying about how you are unhappy with the frauds... while you keep getting readings!
Joy
NA,New York,
U.S.A.
JoyK = fake posts
#128Consumer Comment
Sat, September 27, 2008
Hello -- I was just again alerted that someone is using my forum handle on ripoff and responded on a previous thread that anyone posting as Joyk or joyaura17 is a fraud poster. Whoever the fraud is, I have my own thoughts - but it most certainly is not me . Very interesting that someone is using my handle from the forum to post on here, out of everyone's handle on that forum --- I wonder why, but anyway --- I have no interest in keeping any thread up so whoever is using it --- most of the sincere posters from the forum know it isn't me.
Joy
NA,New York,
U.S.A.
JoyK = fake posts
#128Consumer Comment
Sat, September 27, 2008
Hello -- I was just again alerted that someone is using my forum handle on ripoff and responded on a previous thread that anyone posting as Joyk or joyaura17 is a fraud poster. Whoever the fraud is, I have my own thoughts - but it most certainly is not me . Very interesting that someone is using my handle from the forum to post on here, out of everyone's handle on that forum --- I wonder why, but anyway --- I have no interest in keeping any thread up so whoever is using it --- most of the sincere posters from the forum know it isn't me.
Joy
NA,New York,
U.S.A.
JoyK = fake posts
#128Consumer Comment
Sat, September 27, 2008
Hello -- I was just again alerted that someone is using my forum handle on ripoff and responded on a previous thread that anyone posting as Joyk or joyaura17 is a fraud poster. Whoever the fraud is, I have my own thoughts - but it most certainly is not me . Very interesting that someone is using my handle from the forum to post on here, out of everyone's handle on that forum --- I wonder why, but anyway --- I have no interest in keeping any thread up so whoever is using it --- most of the sincere posters from the forum know it isn't me.
Joy
NA,New York,
U.S.A.
JoyK = fake posts
#128Consumer Comment
Sat, September 27, 2008
Hello -- I was just again alerted that someone is using my forum handle on ripoff and responded on a previous thread that anyone posting as Joyk or joyaura17 is a fraud poster. Whoever the fraud is, I have my own thoughts - but it most certainly is not me . Very interesting that someone is using my handle from the forum to post on here, out of everyone's handle on that forum --- I wonder why, but anyway --- I have no interest in keeping any thread up so whoever is using it --- most of the sincere posters from the forum know it isn't me.
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
Well Iris...
#128Consumer Comment
Fri, September 26, 2008
Your depth of character finally comes to the for.
You got banned from the group, for a number of reasons.
1) you were making people feel uncomfortable with your continuous hitler style rants.
2) you contradicted yourself over and over...regarding LP, which you state you want everyone not to touch with a bargepole but remain an expert there yourself.
3) evidence was provided that it is indeed YOU that stalk other experts. Very worrying indeed. The evidence provided, shows you go to great lengths and efforts in order to stalk people.
4) you tried to take over a group that IS NOT YOUR GROUP. You wanted every expert banned from it, it to be monitored and controlled so that only certain people you see fit can join, when it has been stated from the beginning that ANYONE can be a member, download files and unjoin if they so wish.
5) You send threatening emails.
It took a lot to convince Janice to ban you....I told her months ago not to let you anywhere near, but she didnt listen. But again I have been proven right.
Yes Janice does write incoherently at times.
Yes Janice does get right out of her pram...but considering the amount of attacks she has had in the past year, Its hardly suprising.
But her biggest fault is her bad judge of character. Like letting you in and confiding in you.
I knew you were no good. I was right.
Go and play with your new little chums...that just about sums you up...slippery as an eel.
Iris
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
One more thing
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Wed, September 24, 2008
I completely recant EVERYTHING I said months ago. I apologize. I was wrong. She had me fooled.
JANICE IS STALKING PSYCHICS. NO doubt about it.
Oh, and did she ever fly to NY on her broom? LOL
Iris
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
One more thing
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Wed, September 24, 2008
I completely recant EVERYTHING I said months ago. I apologize. I was wrong. She had me fooled.
JANICE IS STALKING PSYCHICS. NO doubt about it.
Oh, and did she ever fly to NY on her broom? LOL
Iris
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
One more thing
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Wed, September 24, 2008
I completely recant EVERYTHING I said months ago. I apologize. I was wrong. She had me fooled.
JANICE IS STALKING PSYCHICS. NO doubt about it.
Oh, and did she ever fly to NY on her broom? LOL
Iris
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
Keep bumping this!
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Wed, September 24, 2008
Hello Karen and other vocal ROR posters. Well, I come here humbly today with egg on my face as I admit that YOU were all correct. Janice IS a nutjob.
I had been an advocate of her efforts, a voice of support, because she led me to believe that she truly intended to create a document that would expose the frauds. I have been in her Yahoo group trying to encourage the members to STOP calling psychics. Janice does not want that to happen. If everyone got emotionally healthy, she'd have no one to talk to!
This woman is unbalanced, unstable and emotionally a timebomb. She is now ranting that she's going to sue some gas station because she fell and hit her head. Truly, she is unhinged.
If anyone intelligent reads her posts, it is clear to see that she doesn't have a coherent thought process. She rambles and obsesses.
I saw her 500 page mess. And calling it a mess is being kind. It is the reflection of a disorganized and fragmented psyche. I wonder if the DSM needs to create a new diagnosis just for her.
I urge anyone "following" Janice to STOP. First of all, STOP calling psychics on Kasamba (LivePerson) or on Keen. STOP wasting your money like that. It is time to move on with your life, focus on productive activities, put your money in the bank (FDIC insured of course and not IndyMac lol), and go about your life.
There is NO magic answer as to your future. And Janice is not someone to emulate.
Let's keep bumping this thread to keep people informed.
PS - I am sure Janice will run here with her foul mouth and insane rantings. I am ready for her to attack, and I have the ammunition (evidence) to fire back. I hope she does come after me, because she won't like what I have in store for her.
:)
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
To The Top
#128Consumer Suggestion
Thu, September 18, 2008
Yes, great idea. Keep this thread right at the top. No burying this! Someone must of realized they have NO case with all the lunatic ranting they were doing on this site. Guess that would not look good in court at all. lol. Court. What a joke.
Let's see if the others bump this thread up with the usual anti- karen rhetoric.
Patti
Madison,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Joy/Joy K
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Wed, September 17, 2008
I notice that this is the one recent Kasamba/LivePerson thread that the fake Joy K has not posted on.
Is it because it is actually Janice trying to bury this thread? Watch for a series of new threads complaining to try to push this one down lower and lower so people don't notice it.
Patti
Madison,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Cages rattled
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sat, September 13, 2008
Karen, this cage rattle business is just projection. Note how this thread and the deluge of posts targeting Kasamba and psychics has dwindled. It is clear who's cage is rattled. There are more Keen complaints in recent weeks than Kasamba. I think this may be an effort to bury this particular thread which names Janice and gives information on how people who have been slandered by her and her various personalities and other minions and lapdogs can find her.
I think it is the duty of every single expert who has been slandered on this forum to make sure this particular thread stays on top.
Patti
Madison,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Cages rattled
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sat, September 13, 2008
Karen, this cage rattle business is just projection. Note how this thread and the deluge of posts targeting Kasamba and psychics has dwindled. It is clear who's cage is rattled. There are more Keen complaints in recent weeks than Kasamba. I think this may be an effort to bury this particular thread which names Janice and gives information on how people who have been slandered by her and her various personalities and other minions and lapdogs can find her.
I think it is the duty of every single expert who has been slandered on this forum to make sure this particular thread stays on top.
Patti
Madison,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Cages rattled
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sat, September 13, 2008
Karen, this cage rattle business is just projection. Note how this thread and the deluge of posts targeting Kasamba and psychics has dwindled. It is clear who's cage is rattled. There are more Keen complaints in recent weeks than Kasamba. I think this may be an effort to bury this particular thread which names Janice and gives information on how people who have been slandered by her and her various personalities and other minions and lapdogs can find her.
I think it is the duty of every single expert who has been slandered on this forum to make sure this particular thread stays on top.
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
LOL
#128Consumer Suggestion
Tue, September 02, 2008
My cage does not rattle out here S. Nice try. Sheeeeeeesssssshhh.
Patti
Madison,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Clearly somebody's cage is rattled
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Mon, September 01, 2008
Clearly somebody's cage is rattled. That person would be whoever pirated Susan's name and persona to write posts. Either that or someone is so desperate to create controversy and therefore gain attention that they'll pretend to be someone they are not.
Anyone want to play 20 questions to guess who?
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
Clearly your cage is rattled Karen....
#128Consumer Comment
Wed, August 27, 2008
And you claim to be a qualified psychologist/psychotherapist/counsellor (forget which one).
I rest my case.
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
Whine Hole
#128Consumer Suggestion
Wed, August 27, 2008
I am sure people who read this crap can tell who are the nuts and who aren't. Its a well known FACT that part of the perma victim group post under multiple names to make themselves look like they have some supporters. Give us a break with the BULLSHIT!
A perma victim is someone who keeps trying to capitalize on the fact that they were a victim! Thus making themselves permanent victims because they REFUSE to move on but instead choose to keep the victim feel alive and well in their twisted psyche because while they are doing that SOMEONE, ANYONE is paying attention to them. Something they very well may not recieve in thier every day life. Attention!
I have NEVER condoned people being ripped off by fake psychics. I have strongly spoken out against the perma victims and their insufferable personalities and multiple posts in a not so nice way. So what. Someone needs to speak to some of these lunatic women that way. Give them a hard dose of reality because in the real world thats what they would be dealing with. REALITY! No, I am NOT out here to pat these nuts on the back and stroke thier warped brains. Absolutely not.
Now I suspect they will make up some more names and post some anti karen crap like it would make a difference or change anything. I will speak cordially to those who are legitimately hurt by being ripped off and I will offer them great helpful advice but as far as the perma victims are concerned. NEVER!
Just because I have not posted a story here or given any of YOU any kind of explanation when you DEMANDED one does not mean I do not have a tale to tell. Just because I do not identify with the constant whining of the perma victims and despise their behaviors does not mean that I do not identify with ripped off clients as a whole. I JUST DO NOT IDENTIFY WITH THE INSUFFERABLE PERMA VICTIMS THAT HAVE MADE THIS SITE THEIR PERSONAL WHINE HOLE!
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
Buzzzzz
#128Consumer Suggestion
Wed, August 27, 2008
S sorry to disappoint you but I am NOT looking for friends out here. Thats what you perma victims do. I call it like I see it and I do not need to associate myself with ANYONE. There is NO SUCH THING AS "FRIENDS' ON THIS SITE. Lmfao. Everytime you perma victims post something about me I just laugh my head off because you try so hard to put me into the neat little box you have opened for me but I am not getting in it. Because I agree with what Patti has said I have a friend out here or I think I have a friend out here. You perma victim bitches are JUST SICK!!
This psychic thread has become nothing but a sounding board for all the perma victim nuts who cannot seem to get a handle on their emotions. All the cape crusaders professing to save the day under the disguise of "warning" of fake readers. They got ripped off a few times so they believe that gives them the right to hang around this thread for years on end like watch dogs of the psychic sites. They think that gives them the right to tell people who read their riduclous rants that they do not have the right to post nor express themselves because "they" are not victims. They have no idea if they have been ripped off or not. They are too stupid to even fathom the idea that not all who post to this site want to share their ripped off stories due to constant lunacy posts of the perma victims.
These women (and its the same ones constantly) keep posting like they own this site. These perma victim fruit cakes think they have the right to say who can and cannot post. What they can and cannot post. They really have a nerve. Because not EVERYONE is out here agreeing with their perma victim lunacy something has to be wrong with THEM. They have to be some kind of dark entity. lol. Not of the light. lol. Talk about stretch of the imagination.
They take sheer comfort in wearing the stigma of "the psychic ripped off client". Out here for YEARS with the same bullshit. NO, I AM NOT THE ONE WITH THE PROBLEM AROUND HERE!
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
S THE IMBECILE
#128Consumer Suggestion
Wed, August 27, 2008
I can post WHEREVER I WANT! I can post on KEEN or KASAMBA threads. Once AGAIN IMBECILE not everyone calls a psychic because of a affair of the heart!! SOME of us are focused on our businesses and finances and NOT stalking and hunting down some man who no longer has a desire to be with us. SOME OF US actually have lives beyond a relationship with men you DUMMY! Yes you are a IMBECILE WHO DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE HELL SHE IS TALKING ABOUT!
Why are you continously posting like you have someone peggged? You do it ALL the time and EVERY SINGLE TIME you are OFF the mark. Keep guessing you fool! Looking forward to your next stupid "I got karen pegged" post. Better yet, why don't you sign onto one of your other names and post to karen in support of S and the perma victims. Ha Ha Ha.
Augusta
Stroudsburg,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
Susan - I agree about LP/Kasamba
#128Consumer Comment
Wed, August 27, 2008
Susan - you are very right - those who leave LP behind and don't succumb to getting reads unless they are very certain of the reader - things become much clearer...stay away months and then you look back and say WHAT did I fall prey to? good point!
I do not know about the other issue you mention as I want to continue to read and share about the shady tricks of LP to help others - but hopefully the posts will continue to expose the crooked feedback and fake reads and help others to stay away unless they are sure of whom they are dealing with....thanks!
Susan
Southampton,New York,
U.S.A.
I DID NOT WRITE THIS POST!!!
#128Consumer Suggestion
Tue, August 26, 2008
I doubt there is another "Susan/Southampton New York". I have not come to this site in at least 4 months. For some reason I thought about the site last night and felt I should take a peep. Apparently, I'm writing all over this site...but IT IS NOT ME. I suggest whoever is doing that should stop. I contacted the site and it will be dealt with.
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
LOL!!!
#128Consumer Comment
Tue, August 26, 2008
I see that Karen has gone down the "ive got a little freind to bash with" route again! Karen, refer to yourself and your own opinions, not those of others. And "we" suggests otherwise.
For any folks here that are new. Karen got very over exited when she last had a "freind" on here, and her posts became so vicious and venimous it led to posters concluding she was nuts. This is not my opinion, the threads from maybe six months ago will prove this if you care to go back through the history.
Yes Karen you can post here, but still do not state why. You have never been able to offer a set opinion on your reasons for being here, except for to spout venom in terms of "because I can" and all that garbage. Still if it give you something to do then so be it.
I can say "we" regarding this bit becasue there are numurous posts to prove that this is not just my opinion. But you are some sort of nut, and an irritant because you just have no reason for any of your posts. Please do not spout the "perma victims" stuff. Lots of reasons why you shouldnt but the main one being that you were a victim of KEEN by your own admission some months back, so do not delude yourself with the concept that you for some reason are above being ripped off, because you have already admitted you were. Just not on Kasamba. And I suspect your reasons for going there in the first place were to do with matters of the heart.
So Karen, there is no use saying "leave it out". As you clearly will never do that, but I think its important to shove in a post everynow and then about you so that anyone new here is aware that there is a mosquito buzzing around.
Susan
Southampton,New York,
U.S.A.
WHOA...ANNOUNCEMENT PEOPLE
#128REBUTTAL Individual responds
Tue, August 26, 2008
WOW!! I must be a Psychic...yesterday I had a feeling that I should visit this site...WHICH I HAVE NOT BEEN TO OR POSTED ON SINCE APPROX. MARCH, 2008! I KNOW SEE THAT SOMEONE IS POSTING FOR ME/AS ME!!
ACTUALLY, IT IS NO SURPRISE (JANICE). BE ADVISED I HAVE CONTACTED THIS SITE AND THE MATTER IS BEING LOOKED INTO.
GENERAL PUBLIC: IF YOU SEE A POST OTHER THAN THIS ONE FROM SUSAN/SOUTHAMPTON....IT IS NOT ME. Janice is and continues to be a very, very unstable individual and I don't know what motivates her, nor do I care. She can pretend to be me, post as me and paste my correspondence with her from when I THOUGHT she was legit ALL SHE WANTS.
Here's a tip...once you escape from the ruthless world of lies attached to Kasamba....your life becomes WONDERFUL.
So...do what you want....slander IS a crime...whatever. These posts are NOT FROM ME.
WHOA!
Augusta
Stroudsburg,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
I think you whine also
#128Consumer Comment
Tue, August 26, 2008
Karen - I still disagree that these people are what you labelled perma victims - a victim of fraud is a victim of fraud and that is what this site is about - and I have seen new people post here. I "throw" spiritual stuff around as you say - because I find little to no spirituality in ripping people off. I do however have a lot of compassion for those clients who have been taken for a ride - and I do so hope that these posts will help them be more discerning. I just do not find it valuable or helpful for you or others to come here and accuse posters of being perma victims or whatever, as it takes away from the information being given.
Your posts just always seem to bring that up, as if we clients have any ability to check the qualifications of experts, or rely on the feedback.
So you could consider yourself too as a whiner - a whiner about perma victims, just as you accuse others of whining about being defrauded.
No one said I or others own this board -- anyone can post obviously - but it seems that the site is set up for rip offs and information pertaining to that - not accusing posters of being perma victims.
Truly LP is a hot bed of fraud and if you think that is throwing spirituality around so be it. We all have our idea of what spirituality means and spiritual sight does not include making things up or sharing transcripts or having feedback edited so you can remain on top.
Please continue to attack me and the other victims of fraud since you consider that to be more helpful
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
Sickening
#128Consumer Suggestion
Tue, August 26, 2008
Like I said Augusta, we are here because we want to be. You DO NOT own this site NOR can you and any other perma victim set the criteria of who posts to these ridiulous threads or not. Your forever throwing around the spiritual stuff. What makes you think we are not spiritual beings? Because we are not butt kissing whenever you and the perma victims start the whining? What makes you think we don't have lives? Because we come here from time to time to see that same old crows whining about the SAME thing with nothing new to ad? Because we pull the perma victim robe from their backs? You perma victims can post after this all you want I don't care but you only end up saying the same ole boring old crow s**t that you have been saying for what 2 years, 1 year? I guess you have made yourselves the "official rip off report police." How about this? I will be here as long as you and the janice perma victim group is here? Fair enough? I think so. lol.
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
Sickening
#128Consumer Suggestion
Tue, August 26, 2008
Like I said Augusta, we are here because we want to be. You DO NOT own this site NOR can you and any other perma victim set the criteria of who posts to these ridiulous threads or not. Your forever throwing around the spiritual stuff. What makes you think we are not spiritual beings? Because we are not butt kissing whenever you and the perma victims start the whining? What makes you think we don't have lives? Because we come here from time to time to see that same old crows whining about the SAME thing with nothing new to ad? Because we pull the perma victim robe from their backs? You perma victims can post after this all you want I don't care but you only end up saying the same ole boring old crow s**t that you have been saying for what 2 years, 1 year? I guess you have made yourselves the "official rip off report police." How about this? I will be here as long as you and the janice perma victim group is here? Fair enough? I think so. lol.
Augusta
Stroudsburg,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
Patti and Karen - why are you HERE
#128Consumer Comment
Mon, August 25, 2008
Why are you both on a rip off site? Why do you care why clients are posting about the shady practices of the so called experts (not all) and LP? If you werent ripped off - why are you here? You certainly are not spiritual as you are condescending and continue to point fingers at those who post and act as if you are on a higher level.
If you werent ripped off - then I suggest you go read your spiritual books or spend time with your families.
Those of us on here posting HAVE been ripped off --- and ripped off consumers are considered victims of fraud - and I feel that if people continue to post the shady tricks, and how the feedback is edited, how/which experts are sharing or completely unskilled it may save other consumers from taking a chance.
There is no shame is admitting you have been conned by professional con artists - and it is great to let others know so you can hopefully spare them the waste of time and energy and funds.
As to Patti's post noting that front page psychics are not mentioned on rip off - they most certainly are. It seems that YOU have a problem with the front page psychics - if so why not tell us what it is? Personally 99% of the readers are not worth the money paid on that site --- first page and all.
As to Karen --- no one considers themselves a permanent victim -- to continue to expose LP is to continue to help alert others -- which I feel is very helpful.
For me - I feel Patti may be one of the readers who may have been kicked off due to some pushing by first page psychics? I dont know of course, unlike Patti - I am a former client ripped off except by a couple of true readers with skills.
I am sure Patti will be back - she seems to like what she calls an illusion.
Augusta
Stroudsburg,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
Patti and Karen - why are you HERE
#128Consumer Comment
Mon, August 25, 2008
Why are you both on a rip off site? Why do you care why clients are posting about the shady practices of the so called experts (not all) and LP? If you werent ripped off - why are you here? You certainly are not spiritual as you are condescending and continue to point fingers at those who post and act as if you are on a higher level.
If you werent ripped off - then I suggest you go read your spiritual books or spend time with your families.
Those of us on here posting HAVE been ripped off --- and ripped off consumers are considered victims of fraud - and I feel that if people continue to post the shady tricks, and how the feedback is edited, how/which experts are sharing or completely unskilled it may save other consumers from taking a chance.
There is no shame is admitting you have been conned by professional con artists - and it is great to let others know so you can hopefully spare them the waste of time and energy and funds.
As to Patti's post noting that front page psychics are not mentioned on rip off - they most certainly are. It seems that YOU have a problem with the front page psychics - if so why not tell us what it is? Personally 99% of the readers are not worth the money paid on that site --- first page and all.
As to Karen --- no one considers themselves a permanent victim -- to continue to expose LP is to continue to help alert others -- which I feel is very helpful.
For me - I feel Patti may be one of the readers who may have been kicked off due to some pushing by first page psychics? I dont know of course, unlike Patti - I am a former client ripped off except by a couple of true readers with skills.
I am sure Patti will be back - she seems to like what she calls an illusion.
Augusta
Stroudsburg,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
Patti and Karen - why are you HERE
#128Consumer Comment
Mon, August 25, 2008
Why are you both on a rip off site? Why do you care why clients are posting about the shady practices of the so called experts (not all) and LP? If you werent ripped off - why are you here? You certainly are not spiritual as you are condescending and continue to point fingers at those who post and act as if you are on a higher level.
If you werent ripped off - then I suggest you go read your spiritual books or spend time with your families.
Those of us on here posting HAVE been ripped off --- and ripped off consumers are considered victims of fraud - and I feel that if people continue to post the shady tricks, and how the feedback is edited, how/which experts are sharing or completely unskilled it may save other consumers from taking a chance.
There is no shame is admitting you have been conned by professional con artists - and it is great to let others know so you can hopefully spare them the waste of time and energy and funds.
As to Patti's post noting that front page psychics are not mentioned on rip off - they most certainly are. It seems that YOU have a problem with the front page psychics - if so why not tell us what it is? Personally 99% of the readers are not worth the money paid on that site --- first page and all.
As to Karen --- no one considers themselves a permanent victim -- to continue to expose LP is to continue to help alert others -- which I feel is very helpful.
For me - I feel Patti may be one of the readers who may have been kicked off due to some pushing by first page psychics? I dont know of course, unlike Patti - I am a former client ripped off except by a couple of true readers with skills.
I am sure Patti will be back - she seems to like what she calls an illusion.
Augusta
Stroudsburg,Pennsylvania,
U.S.A.
Patti and Karen - why are you HERE
#128Consumer Comment
Mon, August 25, 2008
Why are you both on a rip off site? Why do you care why clients are posting about the shady practices of the so called experts (not all) and LP? If you werent ripped off - why are you here? You certainly are not spiritual as you are condescending and continue to point fingers at those who post and act as if you are on a higher level.
If you werent ripped off - then I suggest you go read your spiritual books or spend time with your families.
Those of us on here posting HAVE been ripped off --- and ripped off consumers are considered victims of fraud - and I feel that if people continue to post the shady tricks, and how the feedback is edited, how/which experts are sharing or completely unskilled it may save other consumers from taking a chance.
There is no shame is admitting you have been conned by professional con artists - and it is great to let others know so you can hopefully spare them the waste of time and energy and funds.
As to Patti's post noting that front page psychics are not mentioned on rip off - they most certainly are. It seems that YOU have a problem with the front page psychics - if so why not tell us what it is? Personally 99% of the readers are not worth the money paid on that site --- first page and all.
As to Karen --- no one considers themselves a permanent victim -- to continue to expose LP is to continue to help alert others -- which I feel is very helpful.
For me - I feel Patti may be one of the readers who may have been kicked off due to some pushing by first page psychics? I dont know of course, unlike Patti - I am a former client ripped off except by a couple of true readers with skills.
I am sure Patti will be back - she seems to like what she calls an illusion.
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
Patti
#128Consumer Suggestion
Sun, August 24, 2008
Patti thank you for keeping it real around here. Your post hit the nail right on the head. I couldn't of said it better myself. Keep up the good work. Reality is a beautiful thing. It amazed me how these perma victims think that they should be the only one's to post and try to instill a criteria around here in regard to who CAN post.
Be Blessed
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
I am not clear Patti...
#128Consumer Comment
Sun, August 24, 2008
You refer to the front page readers of Liveperson, as if somehow they are being protected. Who? and by who? They are certainly not being protected by anyone I know. I suggest you sign up to the weakguy site (if you haven't already) and you will see they are alive and kicking. However I will add, as much as alot of info is already in the public domain...you don't play your whole hand until your good and ready.
In reference to the "victims" comments. How is being PRO ACTIVE being a victim? Do you honestly believe that visiting a site for readings like liveperson, realising you have been scammed and then trying to stop other's from experiencing the same fraud as you have and exposing, challenging and attempting to make changes to that regime is a sign of "victims" and not taking responsibilty? Do you honestly believe that people should be ripped of when they were vulnerable by waiting vultures, should just shrug their shoulders, walk away and leave the vultures to continuing ripping off others?
If you do thats fine. Fortunately there are people out there that don't.
Oh and by the way, after posting this, I too, am off to spend time with my family. Just like everybody else that posts here. Like you for instance.
Patti
Madison,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Agendas
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sat, August 23, 2008
Gosh! It makes me sound like a superhero! Thanks!
Yes. I am an ex-employee. I have been consistent in stating that. I'm not sure why that is so hard for you to comprehend. Sadly, you will never understand my agenda because of your "if you're not with us, you're against us" mentality.
Lets play true or false:
There are frauds on Kasamba. True
There are stalkerclients on Kasamba. True
There are readers who exchange information. True
Are many of those front page readers who's names are suspiciously absent and viciously protected by their yappy little lapdogs? True.
Is anyone here a victim? False. None of you are.
Is everyone here an expert or ex-expert with an agenda. True and you're all trying to play God by meteing out your own sense of justice and making sure someone pays for your pain instead of taking responsibility for it yourselves.
Off to be with my family. They're real. What goes on here is an illusion to which you all desperately cling. I pray you find what's real. You are doing far more hurt and emotional damage to yourselves than anyone can ever can or will do.
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
What expert am I Patti?
#128Consumer Comment
Sat, August 23, 2008
As you are so determined that everyone who posts on here is like your self, either an employee or an ex-employee.
My post was directed at one very irritating person, who for the life of me I cannot work out her agenda.
As you clearly are an ex-employee (or an employee) your agenda is clear for all genuine ripped off clients to see. Undermining complaints is in your best interest, as exposing frauds is not. We get that bit.
Either that or you are deluded beyond belief, if you really truly think that no one who posts here is a genuine client.
Whatever, think what you will, at the end of the day it doesnt really matter, in fact I wouldnt want you change your agenda now...it would be unnerving.
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
What expert am I Patti?
#128Consumer Comment
Sat, August 23, 2008
As you are so determined that everyone who posts on here is like your self, either an employee or an ex-employee.
My post was directed at one very irritating person, who for the life of me I cannot work out her agenda.
As you clearly are an ex-employee (or an employee) your agenda is clear for all genuine ripped off clients to see. Undermining complaints is in your best interest, as exposing frauds is not. We get that bit.
Either that or you are deluded beyond belief, if you really truly think that no one who posts here is a genuine client.
Whatever, think what you will, at the end of the day it doesnt really matter, in fact I wouldnt want you change your agenda now...it would be unnerving.
Erica
Oakland,California,
U.S.A.
Whew! Patti is back!
#128Consumer Comment
Fri, August 22, 2008
Thank GOD! I thought we'd lost her once she was outed on here for trying to tear down some of the reputable readers and then blaming it on someone else. Remember folks, she's too bsuy with her vastly superior and rewarding life to bother following the posts on ROR. But she's back! And not a moment too soon!
Patti
Madison,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Finally!
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Fri, August 22, 2008
Somebody is finally coming to clarity on the fact that everyone posting here is either an expert or former expert on Kasamba! There really aren't any clients posting here. If a client does post here they're usually directed to by an expert.
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
Karen.....
#128Consumer Comment
Thu, August 21, 2008
I used to think that you were just some old "busybody" out too cause trouble in places where you had no business. Everyone can relate to someone like that, like in their neighbourhood, at work etc.
That was a view made by your persistant contradictory views, the jumping on the bandwagon with particular people and the nonsense posts that you have always written.
However, I have now formed a different more informed view of you. I think that you are an expert on Kasamba. A top fraudulent expert on Kasamba, I say a top one because most of the fakes oust themselves as soon as they come here and post, whereas you did not.
Its either that or you have something seriously wrong with you. But I am pretty confident in my analysis of you. Its just which one thats all.
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
Karen.....
#128Consumer Comment
Thu, August 21, 2008
I used to think that you were just some old "busybody" out too cause trouble in places where you had no business. Everyone can relate to someone like that, like in their neighbourhood, at work etc.
That was a view made by your persistant contradictory views, the jumping on the bandwagon with particular people and the nonsense posts that you have always written.
However, I have now formed a different more informed view of you. I think that you are an expert on Kasamba. A top fraudulent expert on Kasamba, I say a top one because most of the fakes oust themselves as soon as they come here and post, whereas you did not.
Its either that or you have something seriously wrong with you. But I am pretty confident in my analysis of you. Its just which one thats all.
S
London,Europe,
United Kingdom
Karen.....
#128Consumer Comment
Thu, August 21, 2008
I used to think that you were just some old "busybody" out too cause trouble in places where you had no business. Everyone can relate to someone like that, like in their neighbourhood, at work etc.
That was a view made by your persistant contradictory views, the jumping on the bandwagon with particular people and the nonsense posts that you have always written.
However, I have now formed a different more informed view of you. I think that you are an expert on Kasamba. A top fraudulent expert on Kasamba, I say a top one because most of the fakes oust themselves as soon as they come here and post, whereas you did not.
Its either that or you have something seriously wrong with you. But I am pretty confident in my analysis of you. Its just which one thats all.
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
Susan
#128Consumer Suggestion
Wed, August 20, 2008
You have nothing to worry about because no agency is going to take Janice's crap serious. I am sure that your not worried. I have to admit watching her unravel like a loon is comical.
You did the RIGHT thing by warning those SHE has hurt by using this site as her weapon. Regardless if SHE agrees in your method and manner of doing so or not.
I hope someone will use the information you provided to stop this loon from bothering them.
Be Blessed
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
Susan you contravened the ROR terms of service
#128Consumer Comment
Wed, August 20, 2008
You obviously didn't read them:
You are solely responsible for the content or information you publish or display (hereinafter, "post") on ROR. You will NOT post on ROR any defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, obscene, profane, offensive, threatening, harassing, racially offensive, or illegal material,
But then again neither did I:
NOTICE FOR USERS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES:
The Ripoff Report website is intended solely for use inside the United States. This site should not be used to post information regarding foreign (non-U.S.-based) companies unless the report involves a transaction which took place inside the United States. This site complies with all applicable United States laws including, but not limited to, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, 17 U.S.C. 512. Different countries have very different laws regarding, among other things, intellectual property, free speech rights and what may or may not constitute defamation. Because Rip-off Report cannot and does not investigate the accuracy of statements on this site, use of the site to publish and/or review reports is limited to only United States residents regarding United States companies. Any other use of the site is expressly prohibited.
I have admiited it to the ROR site owners and apologised. Of course, I did point out that I am not a US citizen and my workplace is not in the US and that means your reports contravene their rules.
I actually found this while gathering the information to file a complaint about you to the internet crimes unit. You of course are welcome to file a complaint against me and I will gladly provide any information they request. If they contact my Government they will find..nothing..oh hang on...there is some contraband on my work computer - pictures of handbags and dogs. Of course I have a massive amount of health research on my home computer, and, indeed HAVE to work at home 1 day per week as we have a small clinic and the guys need to use my offic for ECGs. I use my computer, my internet service, my electricity ..I think my government will figure that the occaisonal picture of a dog or email is not a threat to national security.
The way it works is they then send it to the local authorities. I will be happy to provide them with any information they need. I am sure they will contact ASIO..or laugh at you..one or the other. I AM going to sue you for defamation and I have dated copies and screenshots of EVERTHING. But I am going through the criminal channels first. You have NO RIGHT to do this sort of thing to ANYONE. This is clearly defamation. I let the first lot of posts go but not this time.
Karen
Henderson,North Carolina,
U.S.A.
The thing to do............
#128Consumer Suggestion
Wed, August 20, 2008
The SANE thing to do would be to, STOP GETTING READINGS!! STOP behaving like nuts! Constantly complaining about being ripped off but you keep running back to the same site getting readings. Stop chasing your tails and spinning the same ole tale. Liveperson needs to sue you nuts. That will shut you all up!
And when that australian fruit cake responds to this she will be talking to herself like she has been doing on every thread. You can always tell who the nuts are, and they are usually the ones following behind her nonsense if its not her posting under nuimerous names AGAIN and responding to herself.
BOTTON LINE, STOP CALLING PSYCHICS FROM LIVEPERSON/KASAMBA SITE AND YOU WILL NOT HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS. d**n FOOLS!! KEEP DOING THAT AND YOU DESERVE TO HAVE YOUR MONEY TAKEN AND SOLD SWAMP LAND IN FLORIDA BECAUSE ONLY THE INSANE DOES CRAP LIKE THAT!
Jh
New York,New York,
U.S.A.
Repost
#128Consumer Comment
Tue, August 19, 2008
I posted earlier, but as usual it doesn't seem to be showing up (seems to be a crapshoot on the ROR these days)
To paraphrase what I said earlier, I never had any problems with readers refusing to read for me. Two hung up on me before I got more than a few words out, the rest - no problem. They read for me. So I'm not sure where that accusation comes from.
The other thing is that again, I don't know where Susan got her info from, but my name and birth city were only mentioned to one person in all of this, and they're a reader. So I'm not sure what the connection is, if any. I don't know Susan other than what I've seen of her on the ROR, so I'm not sure why she's bringing me into things in such a manner as this.
My involvement in this from the moment I started posting has been to help others, give my opinions on my experiences, and then pass on info when I had it. As heartbroken as I am about the Shining Love thing, I know it will help others and I'm glad that I was one of the people who passed around those transcripts and discovered what was really going on.
I don't want to harp on anything or anyone even if they're a fraud. Janice's report is separate from me. I'm glad she's doing it, and I'm glad to have the weakguys forum to post opinions on. Like Susan and others, I've had trust taken advantage of. That's not just being victim of fraud or deceit, it's also something I can't fathom someone doing on a human level. Especially when clients are hurting or confused.
Jh
New York,New York,
U.S.A.
Well
#128Consumer Comment
Tue, August 19, 2008
I actually only had two readers hang up on me a few words into things - there were no problems with anyone else and no one else refused to read for me.
I think I'm simply being used as bait on Susan's end to try and upset Janice. However, that being said, there is still only one person I gave my birth city info to, so I don't know what's going on or what to think.
But again, I have nothing to do with this. And I wish that EVERYONE would stop this and get back to the point of all of this - which is to discuss experiences and warn others of the frauds out there.
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
Don't treat her like she is an idiot Patti
#128Consumer Comment
Tue, August 19, 2008
Your post smacks of manipulation. Jh is an intelligent woman. She is supported in her decision whatever it is. I think that she knows this. In fact, last time susan did this it frightened off some clients but they have come back to the new group.
If you believe there are so many frauds why are you TRYING to sabotage efforts to at least create a information pool where clients can go and feel comfortable.
I hate that she got caught up in this but if you try and blame me for the actions that some psycho has taken you are worse than I thought. Surely, even you can see that Susan is off the planet. Or do you think that the our national intelleigence organisation would spend resources chasing someone like Susan McDowell. I actually hadn't thought about her in months.
You are just as manipulative as she and neither of you do it very well. Susan McDowell tries to create trouble but she never has any proof. We, the group members, do have proof. We ARE doing something constructive. You are like all the rest of the frauds-into destruction. You are the one with an malicious agenda and it is aimed at S and me.
We have been there so many times with people like you. Jh knows whatever she decides to do is supported by us and others. Go back into your hole and focus on your own life because I can tell you things are going to change there soon.
Patti
Madison,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Jh
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Tue, August 19, 2008
Now you know how it feels to be unfairly targeted and have your eyes opened to the dangers of being targeted in this chaotic and dysfunctional effort of personalities here. It also explains why so many psychics wouldn't read for you except for the frauds. Yes, contrary to what think, I too believe there are true frauds on Kasamba.
Do what you need to to protect your family and provide for your emotional well-being. Neither "side" here cares one bit about that. They only care that you can promote their agenda and will use any resource or information on you they have to manipulate you into doing so.
Patti
Madison,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Jh
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Tue, August 19, 2008
Now you know how it feels to be unfairly targeted and have your eyes opened to the dangers of being targeted in this chaotic and dysfunctional effort of personalities here. It also explains why so many psychics wouldn't read for you except for the frauds. Yes, contrary to what think, I too believe there are true frauds on Kasamba.
Do what you need to to protect your family and provide for your emotional well-being. Neither "side" here cares one bit about that. They only care that you can promote their agenda and will use any resource or information on you they have to manipulate you into doing so.
Patti
Madison,Wisconsin,
U.S.A.
Jh
#128UPDATE EX-employee responds
Tue, August 19, 2008
Now you know how it feels to be unfairly targeted and have your eyes opened to the dangers of being targeted in this chaotic and dysfunctional effort of personalities here. It also explains why so many psychics wouldn't read for you except for the frauds. Yes, contrary to what think, I too believe there are true frauds on Kasamba.
Do what you need to to protect your family and provide for your emotional well-being. Neither "side" here cares one bit about that. They only care that you can promote their agenda and will use any resource or information on you they have to manipulate you into doing so.
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
No proof Susan McDowell of Southhampton New York
#128Consumer Comment
Tue, August 19, 2008
I am actually posting this August 19th 2008 on the advice of my lawyer because ROR do not remove posts.
i am asking you one more time to post proof of your allegantions against me.
Note that I have provided some proof that you made derogatory remarks against those 'poor innocent psychcis' (your description).
However the burden of proof is on you.
I saw the other post yesterday. I had NOT actually seen it before. You insulted my dog. He is far smarter than you.
I AM going to sue you for defamation and that stupid lying sanctamonious scumbag Shining Lies or Sheera Delta - whatever- from Detroit Michigan.
Neither of you should be too hard to find. In fact, we have decided to track down your details now.
BTW, in a similiar case in the US damages were around $3,000,000. Yep three million dollars. Of course I wouldn't get that and neither do I care. However, I do have the right to bankrupt you-take everything. I will win, of course.
There is no way you can prove I had some sort of government software...lol..you will be a laughing stock. Hey that is a good idea susan. Maybe I'll find your local paper and post copies of this ROR report or send it to your boss (if you are competatnt to work). It is so redulous that it will really make you look like the stupid idiot that you are.
BTW Susan, why doen't you add copyright infringement to your crimes. Before you post my photo (which is available on another website) you had better check Australian law on copyright infringement. I have nothing to hide. You, on the other hand have defamed me in several posts and I let it go last time but things are different now and I am going to file charges Susan McDowell of Southhampton NY. Gee I notice you haven't replied with any proof.
I fugured out what it is about this that annoys me because the allegations are so outrageous only idiots would belive them. Unlike you I CAN accpt criticsm as long as it is logical. The group members can, and do 'tell me off' if I lose my temper.
See the thing that gets me most is that you are a stupid coward. I will debate with people with whom I disagree as long as they 'fight fair'. I admire people that prove me wrong in an innovative way because sometimes I lose my objectivy simply because there is so much work involved and I DO ahve a heavy workload in my job and IAM TIRED. Therefore I have a short fuse. and you have always had the worse timing.
So I am requesting one more time that you provide proof of the following statements:
She stalked and harassed me daily (ummmm, surely you would have easily obtainable) evidence of this
She sends you multiple emails and goes to your personal websites and stalks and stalks and stalks and stalks and stalks and stalks and stalks
is the stalker behind most of the anti- psychic reports here on rip off report
The best that she can do with her life is lie, cheat, make false accusations and stalk psychics (oo this one is a doozy.worth lots of YOUR dollars)
Be careful because she is out to get you.
When she is your friend, she will use your information against you and she will lie about you and make up stories about how evil you are and that she of course is the innocent victim
She tells them that if they do what she says, then she will not put their names in her anti psychic e-book that she is claiming on making available to everyone. That is of course blackmail (ah...accusing someone of committing a felony...not good)
I know that she has hacked my email and my account several times with some government software that she or her friends obtained (this one is gonna cost you heeps also)
serious connections with the Australian government that exempts her somehow from getting caught (now this has given me an idea - I can and will call your Embassy is Canberra and demand the they do something
I don't think my govenment would like to be dragged into your stupid psychotic episodes that imply they are collaborating with one of their own citizens to stalk US citizens.
I must check that out.
You have blown a gasket ot two and it is going to cost you this time. See Susan McDowell, I am not ashamed of anything I have done or am doing. I just don't like stupid people or cowards and YOU are both.
I have fulfilled the request from my lawyers and asked you to provide proof. I will be sending this to your embassy tomorrow and demanding an explanation.
She has some sort of mental disorder and she loves to stalk online where she can't get caught so easily (this one is actually going to cost YOU a lot)
Once she gets your email address, she will keep on sending you emails and threatening ones.
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
Susan McDowell's Identity Crisis
#128Consumer Comment
Mon, August 18, 2008
And the words 'Identity Crisis' are a Kind description.
See Susan, after some sleep I actually don't care.
I am not ashamed of who I am or what I want to do.
I admit to creating a few logins on Liveperson and of course the group is under the name we used to prove master z was a fraud. I actually decided to post the results here under different names and to state that I had put the information in an open group in order to see if the reaction was different from certain detractors. It was.
However, it is clear you are Dr Jake and Mary anne because the writing style is the same. This is irelevant however because when I sue you there is enough defamtory information in the post under your name to win the case.
I was looking through old emails you sent me before you went nuts because I wouldn't give you the research to get YOUR money back and I realised that you seeem to have changed your attitude somewhat.
The emails clearly show you were stalking Raven Franks and others, mocking them making disparaging remarks etc.
I have gone through period of confusion about this but I have always maintained that the company is the major problem.
I have NEVER believed that all psychics are unethical.
How on earth do you expect them to trust you when they read the excerpts from you email below. You have already demonstrated how low you will go to try and hurt someone. Clearly, you are in the group. that is fine. However, you would have picked up that I liked a nice and smart person.
I like all the members that are particpating in the group and am enjoying getting to know them. But it is human nature for some to identify and form friendships. I know some of the members are becoming friends with eachother and that is great. I guess you wouldn't understand the meaning of friendship because it includes trust.
You picked on someone I like very much and tried to hurt her to get at me. This is clearly evident from you diatribe. It is reprehensible and if you take that route any further I will come down on you immediately. I notice you have avoided that in your latest post. Does that mean you were lying or are you scared. You are so transparent. The only one who thinks that an ordinary citizen has access to top level intelligence equipement is you and that is a clear indication that you are not all there. People will be wary of you. You have set yourself up.
If you have formed friendships with some psychics I don't think they will trust you when they realise that you mocked them, stalked them and are capable of turning on them if you do not get what you want. This is what you did to me and, while I don't care, it really castes you in a bad light.
I hope you realise that everytime people like you or Shining Lies launches into me we get a rush of clients who read this board and don't post. How do I know this. It is easy because I can graph the membership subscriptions with someone ranting stuff that is so idiotic (like I think my dog is a doctor or I am in with Asio and tracking you). There is a direct correlation with insane accusations against me and membership data.
Susan do you not realise that you are the best publicity machine for the genuine clients that I have ever found? I know this because they have told me that they read back through the history and at least came to have a look and have stayed and started posting.
So have a look at the things you wrote in emails to me. I have the originals. I may have had trouble finding my way through this quagmire but let me assure you that I have in fact done that now. This is not an obsession it is something that I started and will finish just like I finish every other project that I have ever undertaken.
Tell me Susan if all I do is stalk psychics 24/7 how come I am still in the same job. Sure I do personal stuff on my work computer but I do workplace research on my home computer and, in fact have to work one day a week at home because we have a small clinic in terms of space and the clinical trials scientists (and before you go off on the Dr Kovorkian stuff, I do not have access to patients records or drugs, I research Chronic Disease Management Programs and use data that has come through the various clinical trials registers. You, on the other hand are obsessed with trying to hurt me.
You can't hurt me and you CANNOT break this group up like you broke up the last one. It just hit me. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE POSTING THIS GARBAGE NOW. YOU ARE TRYING TO BREAK UP THE GROUP. THAT IS WHY YOU SLITHERED OUT OF WHATEVER HOLE YOU HAVE BEEN IN ALL THESE MONTHS. I WALKED AWAY FROM THAT GROUP IN ORDER TO GIVE IT A CHANCE WITHOUT HAVING TO ENDURE THE EFEFCTS OF THE IDIOT (YOU) TRYING TO GET AT ME. YOUR WEIRD AND STUPID. MOREOVER YOU DON'T GET IT. NO-ONE IN MY DAY TO DAY LIFE WOULD CARE OR BE SURPRISED ABOUT THIS-THEY KNOW ME.
YOU CANNOT TURN THIS GROUP AGAINST ME. If I get angry because some idiot is posting garbage I do what I have done now-just chill for a few days. Let me tell you this. If you try this in the group you will be deleted. The mods have your number and can recognise your writing because it is full of accusations that are so insane no-one will believe them. Besides, the moderators are trusted and their decsions are trusted and they think you ...well I won't put words in their mouths they are quite capable and far more eloquent at expressing their opinion of you than I am. I just think your stupid. So Susan, champion of the psychics, here are a few of your words:
I just e-mailed K back and told them obviously they are attempting to turn this around and make it "about me". I also told them I registered to be an "Expert" and I am now a "Psychic" and all I had to do was fill in some minimal info and was accepted.....we'll see.
-Susan
I e-mailed Raven Franks requesting a refund. She wrote back with her psycho mumbo jumbo asking me to "stop posting and give up on this revenge", yaddy yada - so I wrote back asking what exactly is the New England Institute of Paranormal Research that lists her as the 1 of the top 10 Psychics and just exactly what issue of Glamour, Total Woman Magazine (not such publication) and Cosmopolitan was she "featured" in....NO REPLY.
This is fun.
I want my money!
Giggle
-Sue
Hey- - anything on Molly Shepherd? For the longest time she had this WHOLE big profile about how she worked/works for the "FBI", etc. Now she's all about her BA in Psychology and her work at Carnivals and Midways....we gotta check her out...got anything on her?
- no "new" word from Kasamba other than I REFUSE to give them a thing and that they should pull the volumes of correspondence I e-mailed, mailed and faxed them MONTHS ago....which I have fax confirmations from and U.S. Postal registered mail receipts for.
THEY ARE SOOOOOOOOOOO STUPID. They should just cut us all checks (I'd settle for 1/2) and make us go away!!
- Susan
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:16:31 PM
Subject: Fox News
Janice - what if you e-mailed Greta VanSustern or Geraldo Rivera on the Fox News website. There is a place to send "show ideas". I think Geraldo Rivera would jump on it - I'm sure your know who he is.
The Rip Off report is back up.
There is a post from the woman I encourgaged to join and she posted that she did and that anyone connected to Kasamba should be worried.....SMILE.
I hope you got my other mails....Kasamba wants all my documentation to pursure an Abuse investigation.....LAUGH OUT LOUD!!
I told them NOPE....I'll see you on T.V.
-Susan
ya gotta read the rebuttal from "Psychic/online"..."the requests from the clients are unwarranted"...the IDIOT states in her first line...."when are you gonna realize that Psychics are entertainers, not Experts".....lemme say THANK YOU to her. Which I did. She blatantly and openly admits that these "Psychics" tell the client what they wanna hear because the "rent is due and the kids are hungry"....YOU GOTTA READ THIS ONE!!
-Sue
I rest my case.
Jh
New York,New York,
U.S.A.
For Susan
#128Consumer Comment
Mon, August 18, 2008
I don't know you and I don't know how you got my name or birth city. There's only one person that I told my name and birth info to, and they were a reader. So....???
I have been ripped off as I saw you were as well in recent years by looking at old ROR posts. I'm especially hurting over someone I totally fully trusted that we've just found to be a cold reader (with tons of proof). I'm posting here and on the weakguys list a lot because I'm trying to get my head around all the months of this stuff and just who is/isn't real (the "isn'ts" seem to be the majority). I'd guess you were in the same boat, as are others and as will be others! I'd guess we mostly all got to where we are with this as we all were hurting or in bad places to begin with - which is why we found LP.
Janice has her focuses for the report, and those on the list are discussing their experiences and trading info, mostly on psychics. That's MY focus. That's my only involvement in this - trying to figure out what really went on in my case and also helping others.
Again, I've told no one name or birth city location save for one person who isn't (as far as I know) involved in any of this. So how on earth do you have it? There are others living in my house, including a minor, so I'm distressed that you have access to some sort of personal info and are posting personal things here when I don't even know you. Please leave me out of this. My focus and posts have been clear from the start.
Jh
New York,New York,
U.S.A.
For Susan
#128Consumer Comment
Mon, August 18, 2008
I don't know you and I don't know how you got my name or birth city. There's only one person that I told my name and birth info to, and they were a reader. So....???
I have been ripped off as I saw you were as well in recent years by looking at old ROR posts. I'm especially hurting over someone I totally fully trusted that we've just found to be a cold reader (with tons of proof). I'm posting here and on the weakguys list a lot because I'm trying to get my head around all the months of this stuff and just who is/isn't real (the "isn'ts" seem to be the majority). I'd guess you were in the same boat, as are others and as will be others! I'd guess we mostly all got to where we are with this as we all were hurting or in bad places to begin with - which is why we found LP.
Janice has her focuses for the report, and those on the list are discussing their experiences and trading info, mostly on psychics. That's MY focus. That's my only involvement in this - trying to figure out what really went on in my case and also helping others.
Again, I've told no one name or birth city location save for one person who isn't (as far as I know) involved in any of this. So how on earth do you have it? There are others living in my house, including a minor, so I'm distressed that you have access to some sort of personal info and are posting personal things here when I don't even know you. Please leave me out of this. My focus and posts have been clear from the start.
Jh
New York,New York,
U.S.A.
For Susan
#128Consumer Comment
Mon, August 18, 2008
I don't know you and I don't know how you got my name or birth city. There's only one person that I told my name and birth info to, and they were a reader. So....???
I have been ripped off as I saw you were as well in recent years by looking at old ROR posts. I'm especially hurting over someone I totally fully trusted that we've just found to be a cold reader (with tons of proof). I'm posting here and on the weakguys list a lot because I'm trying to get my head around all the months of this stuff and just who is/isn't real (the "isn'ts" seem to be the majority). I'd guess you were in the same boat, as are others and as will be others! I'd guess we mostly all got to where we are with this as we all were hurting or in bad places to begin with - which is why we found LP.
Janice has her focuses for the report, and those on the list are discussing their experiences and trading info, mostly on psychics. That's MY focus. That's my only involvement in this - trying to figure out what really went on in my case and also helping others.
Again, I've told no one name or birth city location save for one person who isn't (as far as I know) involved in any of this. So how on earth do you have it? There are others living in my house, including a minor, so I'm distressed that you have access to some sort of personal info and are posting personal things here when I don't even know you. Please leave me out of this. My focus and posts have been clear from the start.
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
Ok Iris..lol..I laughed for the first time in days-and you are right
#128Consumer Comment
Mon, August 18, 2008
Anyone who has any brains would know that I may be a good researcher on an intellectual basis but I can barely find the on/off switch on the computer. I may have inherited my fathers temper but I didn't inherit his mechanical/technical abilty. He was a test pilot at one stage. I had to get my young godson to program my DVD player.
Iris and I have had some shall we say vibrant discussions but the funniest of all was when we were arguing over payment. I wanted to talk to her about some things to do with the report and wanted to pay her for her time (because I believe that people's skills are worth something) and of course she wouldn't let me :)...I think we spent 5 mins arguing over it..lol..
I have been destracted by the group expansion which has mostly occured since I started posting case studies from the report that Susan (and others) state does not exist.
There are 50 members and now there are two mods. I appointed these not to keep members in line, but to keep me in line and allow me to have a few days break rather than lose my temper.
Iris, :) I am back to work on it this weekend. I am just letting the energy reach a nice equilibrium again and getting some early nights this week. I have an important work review to finish and am letting things just flow in the group now.
It is great cos people are colating their own experiences and adding to the evidence-base. Susan, before you accuse me of stealing transcripts like you did in the other group get your facts straight. Group members are doing this themselves.
THEY ARE LOADING THEIR INFORMATION IN THE FILES SECTION. I OFTEN DON'T KNOW UNTIL IT LANDS IN MY MAIL BOX AND I THINK WOW-THAT IS SO WELL DONE AND HELPFULL. I WOULD CHECK THAT IF I WERE YOU BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT GETS ADDED TO THE LIST OF DEFAMATORY STATEMENTS YOU HAVE MADE ABOUT ME AND JENNIFER.
I SENT THE POSTS TO AN AUSTRALIAN DEFAMATION SPECIALIST...LOL..HE SAID TOO BAD THESE WEREN'T MADE BY A NEWSPAPER THEY WOULD BE WORTH MILLIONS. I am not interested in millions. I am interested in watching you pay.
In case you don't know what defamation means:
Defamation occurs where one person communicates, by words, photographs, video, illustrations or other means, material which has the effect or tendency of damaging the reputation of another. That traditional definition is now expanded to cover publication over the Internet.
According to the Australian lawyer, effect or tendency means it could potentially damage someone's reputation, there is no requirement for burden of proof i.e. I don't have to prove it hurt my reputation. The fact that it COULD is enough.
Gee it has been 24 hours and I posted an email that proves I know your last name because you sent it to me you sick scrag.Where is your evidence that I don't do anything with my life except lie and stalk or whatever. I of course shall produce evidence of my academic publications from the last 12 months and the seminars I have presented to refute your claims.
See I don't actually have to do much because the burden of proof is on you and shining lies. I would start checking your files if I were you because I AM going to sue you. It actually won't be for awhile as the statute of limitations is at least one year and I am conscious of my time issues. I actually do do something other than lie and stalk. It is called work.
I don't even have to drag my boss to court because according to the lawyer a couple of payslips and couple of published journal articles will take care of that lie. See unlike these two scrags, the judge is not stupid. He knows what amount of time and efort goes into academic research.
I can produce a pile of reports and academic articles that date back 10 years. Oh and before that? well 3.5 years doing my doctorate, 7 years doing my basic degree and honours. I think my ability to account for the last 20 years work will prove that I do more with my life that is imputed in that statement.
Iris, I AM going to finish the report before I go after those two scags. First things first-they can wait as I know how to find them. It is called a court order and it is valid in the US. Now that I know that I can sue them I will wait simply because I can.
BUT KNOW THIS! ONCE I HAVE FINISHED IT I AM COMING AFTER YOU both-SUSAN McDOWELL AND SHEENA SHINING LIES
IT WILL BE SOON SO I WOULD START CHECKING OUT ATTORNEYS AND SAVING YOUR DOLLARS BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO NEED BOTH.
I have said enough on this now and it is time to focus again. You're such a stupid coward - both of you are cowards because you make these defamatory statements and run when you are asked for proof.
If either of you continue this I will just add any remarks to the long list of defamatory statements.
Iris and I may disagree on some things and I had to eat humble pie because I was wrong about Shining Lies but you know what, they have the guts to come out and put their view forward, with proof. The members of the group told me to cool down and not turn it into ROR. They are intelligent and savvy people and I admire them. I took the mebers' advice and I am taking Iris' (and others) advice now and focussing on the task at hand.
But I promise you when this is finished I am starting proceedings for defamation. It seems as though you have crawled back into your hole. It is a good idea to stay there because, like Shining Lies you make statements that are so unreal that I can disprove them with very little effort. You don't want to start on Jennifer because she is in your jurisdiction and the US law is clear on that aspect. Leave her alone or I will engage an US attorney, clue him up and set him on you. I can do that in a phone call.
Just remember that I have at least a year to file court action and a few weeks of work left on the report. You do the math!
Iris
Beverly Hills,California,
U.S.A.
Janice is NOT stalking psychics!
#128Consumer Suggestion
Mon, August 18, 2008
Susan - I tried to read your rant, but honestly, without paragraph breaks or commas, it's rather tedious. What I could ascertain was that you are making outlandish claims in an obsessively repeating manner. Had you made your point in a concise and intelligible way, perhaps I would have given it some consideration.
About Janice, you wrote: "The best that she can do with her life is lie, cheat, make false accusations and stalk psychics."
There is NOTHING false about her accusations. She is neither lying nor cheating. That is the terrain of LivePerson and its fake psychics.
You claim that she has somehow hacked your email with some "government software." That statement alone tells me that your sanity is in question. Janice has neither the resources nor the computer prowess to do that. In addition, what "government software" exists that is readily available to the consumer to do this? LOL... Really, your accusations are without merit and rather ridiculous.
I will agree with one point you made. Janice MUST stop calling psychics on LivePerson and anywhere else. There is no justification for continued "research." She has adequate documentation at this point to move forward. She needs to organize and assimilate what she has, and take action. Accumulating more "research" is a waste of energy and money. There are already enough nails to put in LP's coffin.
Janice has NEVER stalked or harassed me. She does not bombard me with contact. She has never once asked for a free reading from me, despite the fact that we are in contact.
LivePerson alleges it has 30,000 "experts" on its site. We all know that they are exaggerating about their size. Men tend to do that. LOL... I can tell you unequivocally there is not one legitimate psychic on that site whose primary purpose is your well-being. They are all there to string you along, keep you stuck and hooked, get you calling back, etc.
I do wish Janice would get off her duff (pun intended) and complete the document. She needs to stop worrying about ROR, stop calling people on LivePerson, and finish the d**n thing.
:)
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
About Jennifer
#128Consumer Comment
Mon, August 18, 2008
LISTEN YOU EVIL SCUMBAG. JENNIFER LIVES IN YOUR JURISDICTION. US LAWS ON DEFAMATION STATE THAT THE ACTION IS APPLICABLE TO THE AREA IN WHICH IS OCCURS.
HOWEVER, THE US HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH AUSTRALIA AND VISA VERSA TO HONOUR THE NATIONAL LAWS.
THIS MEANS I CAN GET YOU TWICE. I CAN, AND AM GOING TO SUE YOU FOR DAFAMATION BY FILING IN MY HOME COUNTRY. YOU WILL HAVE TO COME HERE, OR YOU CAN JUST SEND AN ATTORNEY (STILL EXPENSIVE). IF YOU DO NOT APPEAR IN COURT A WARRENT WILL BE ISSUED FOR YOUR ARREST. THAT IS OUR LAW AND THE US WILL HONOUR IT.
BUT THE US IS LAW IS DIFFERENT. IF YOU EVEN MENTION HER NAME ANYWHERE, ANYTIME I WILL HIRE AN ATTORNEY AND INVESTIGATOR IN NY FOR HER AND YOU WILL BE DRAGGED IN FRONT OF YOUR COURTS AS WELL FOR DEFMATION.
I AM WARNING YOU. YOU MAY BE STUPID ENOUGH TO THINK YOU CAN EMBARRASS THREATEN OR FIGHTEN ME BUT SEE I AM DIIFERENT THAN I WAS LAST YEAR.
I BACKED OFF LAST YEAR FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. THINGS ARE DIFFERENT NOW AND I CAN, AND WILL GO AFTER YOU.
I WILL REPORT YOU FOR INTERNET CRIME. YOU GAVE AWAY TOO MUCH INFORMATION.
SEE, I HADN'T EVEN GIVEN YOU A THOUGHT IN MONTHS LET ALONE STALK YOU. BUT YOU TOLD ME YOU HAVE BEEN HACKING INTO MY PERSONAL AFFAIRS. I ACTAULLY HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE BUT YOU MADE SOME BIG MISTAKES.
YOU TRIED TO BLACKEN THE NAME OF SOMEONE I LIKE VERY MUCH. WHEN I FIRST READ THE POST I WAS THINKING 'MORE OF HER USUAL GRABAGE'. WHEN I SAW YOU MENTION THE NAME OF SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN RECENTLY HURT BY ANOTHER MONSTER AND WHOM I LIKE VERY MUCH SOMETHING INSIDE ME SNAPPED'.
I DIDN'T STALK YOU-PROVE IT GO ON YOU EVIL SCUMBAG, PROVE IT.
MY NAME IS ONLY SPELT IN THAT FORM ON PERSONAL DOCUMENTS - I NEVER EVER USE MY MIDDLE INITIAL, OR NAME. AUSTRALIANS TEND NOT TO WRITE THEIR NAMES IN THIS FORM (USING THE MIDDLE NAME OR INITAL) SOME PERSONAL DOCUMENTS USE IT.
YOU JUST MADE TWO MISTAKES, NO THREE ACTUALLY,
1. YOU TRIED TO HURT SOMEONE I LIKE-YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE
2. YOU PROVED THAT YOU ARE HACKING ME-I ACTUALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT ME-I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HIDE BUT MY DAD IS FRAIL
3. YOU MADE ALLEGATIONS THAT YOU CANNOT SUBSTANTIATE.
HOW ON EARTH WOULD A HEALTH RESEARCHER HAVE ACCESS TO 'GOVERNMENT HACKING SOFTWARE'. I AM NIT VERY GOOD WITH TECHNICALL ISSUES-A LETTER FROM THE COMPUTER COMPNAT WILL SHOW I AM CONSTANTLY ON THE PHONE WITH THEIR HELP DESK TRYING TO CONFIGURE VISTA.
I AM WARNING YOU. LAY OFF HER OR YOU'LL BE FACING TWO DEFAMATION ACTIONS-SEE LAST TIME I CHECKED, THE BRONX AND SOUTHAMPTION WERE IN THE SAME STATE.
CHECK THE US LAW ON INTERNET DEFAMATION
UNLESS OF COURSE YOU HAVE PROOF OF ME STALKING YOU AND ALL THE OTHER GARBAGE.
CAN YOU POST THE STALKING EMAILS. I WILL OF COURSE BE FILING FOR YOU TO PRODUCE THEM SO BEST TO POST THE REAL ONES-BUT YOU WON'T OF COURSE BECAUSE THEY DON'T EXIST.
I AM SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT YOU ARE CORRECT.
COME ON POST OR GET AN ATTORNEY. I AM FIGHTING YOU THIS TIME.
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
I just realised-you have given me so much information in this email.
#128Consumer Comment
Mon, August 18, 2008
I didn't use "some type of government" software to hack into your emails.
1. I am in health, not ASIO.
2. I wouldn't know how to use it if I tried. I can hardly configure the firewalls. I am NOT good at computers as the 'helpdesk' from my work and the company that made my laptop (I purchased a remote assistance package' will prove.
3. You are NOT that important to me. I had not even thought about you in months
BUT YOU SPELL MY NAME IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY IT APPEARS ON SOME PERSONAL DOCUMENTS. I WILL OF COURSE BE REPORTING YOU TO THE GLOBAL INTERNET CRIME BUREAU IMMEDIATELY.
I will give them and any other official EVERY bit of information they require including access to every one of my accounts, my tax file number (used like a Social Security number), bank accounts, workplace ID number-paypal address - anything that is requested. I have NOTHING to hide. OK maybe I will be embarrassed by the number of pairs of shoies I have bought but hey, that is not a crime. Hacking into a person's personal accounts IS A CRIME.
Oh, BTW, I only have the paypal addresses of those psychics that took me offline from Liveperson Kasamba. I actually hadn't reported them to Liveperson but maybe I should. After all if they are telling you some trumped up garbage that I am stalking them when THEY are dishonest it might be time to report them. They will be so happy that you posted this. After all, YOU say I am a stalker and use their paypal addresses - for what I do not know.
You DO know that is a serious 'crime' as far as Liveperson is concerned, don't you?
I KNOW YOUR LAST NAME BECAUSE I KEPT YOUR EMAILS AFTER YOU WENT NUTS. IT APPEARS ON THEM. I CAN PROVE THIS.
I TOLD A FEW OF THE WORSE ONES, SUCH AS THE OLD PERVE Z AND POWERFUL VISIONS THAT I HAD BUSTED THEM BUT I HAVE ALWAYS ADMITTED TO THAT.
The following is an email from you trying to get me to go to the media. It was YOU STALKING PSYCHICS, NOT ME.
Hi, Janice - take a look at this!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Kasamba Support
To: Susan McDowell
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:59 AM
Subject: RE: Received E-Mail (LTK6407325902X)
Dear Susan,
Please note that we have found your accusations to be without merit and that we will not be able to refund the money you have requested.
With regard to your account, please be advised that it has now been terminated.
If you have any new inquiries, please contact us using the following link:
http://www.kasamba.com/Personal/Contact/Knowledgebase/Default.aspx
Sincerely,
Nathan G.
Kasamba Support Representative
__________________________________________
http://www.kasamba.com Expert advice and services LIVE
---------------Original Message---------------
From: Susan McDowell
Subject: Received E-Mail
I received and e-mail from "Nathan G" informing my Kasamba account has been blocked (e-mail title) and deactivated (stated in the e-mail). Well, as usual, Kasamba scam tactics are in effect. Not only is my account not "Blocked", it is not "Deactivated". There is NO justification for either, but it also is NOT true. I can log in and contact experts, etc. What I want to know is WHY I am being ignored. I am told there is an "investigation" and my account is "blocked" and "deactivated" - which is INCORRECT. Yet, I get NO response to my request for a refund and have never gotten ANY viable/credible response from Kasamba for well over a year. I reported TRUTHFUL and genuine examples of being scammed by "Experts" and nothing was done and I never even got a satisfactory response.
Good luck Kasamba - the evidence of the entire scamming tactics of this website is in motion. I'd start deciding who is going to represent the site on T.V.(LTK6407325902X)
I also have the email in which you wanted to use the information that I had collected at that point to get YOUR MONEY back. I refused and that is when you went nuts.
I am taking a few days off in which to do this. I am going to start this in motion.
GET AN ATTORNEY. YOU ARE GOING TO NEED ONE!
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
oh and you better have proof
#128Consumer Comment
Sun, August 17, 2008
That I hacked your account. I actually haven't thought about you in months.
Wow there is so many Defamatory statements in this my anger has gone to bemusement.
You obviously do not know me. Anyone who does would know that I am barely computer literate...lol..just not a talent of mine. Of coure you CAN prove thatg I hacked into a computer of someone who I hadn't thought about in months-yourself, can't you?
Listen Susan McDowell of SouthHampton New York, put your money where your mouth is and provide a list of the websites that I have visted and stalked.
Oh and I will provide a reference to a recent publciation in an academic journal. See, unlike you, I do actaully do something with my life.
Have YOU got a doctorate? Have you published anything? You sem to be in the same place as a year ago -wherever that is.
Better start getting that proof ready - both of you...see I know that neither of you have it...this is going to be fun!
BUT KNOW THIS! I AM DEADLY SERIOUS! I AM TAKING BOTH OF YOU TO COURT FOR DEFAMATION. IT IS GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE FOR YOU BOTH AS YOU WILL BE REQUIRED BY US LAW TO FLY YOURSELF AND AN ATTORNEY OUT TO AUSTRALIA ATTEND COURT.
IT WON'T COST ME ANYTHING THAT I CANNOT AFFORD. YOU CAN APPLY TO HAVE IT HEARD IN THE US BUT THE LAW IS CLEAR THAT ON THE INTERNET THE CASE CAN BE HEARD IN THE LOCATION IN WHICH THE COURT ACTION IS COMMENCED AS LONG AS THE DEFAMATORY STAEMENTS ARE ACEESIBLE IN THAT PLACE
GUESS WHERE I AM. LITTLE OLD ADELAIDE. NOW THE COST
AIRFARES USD$3,000 EACH- YOU PLUS AN ATTORNEY=$6,000
INTERNET EXPERT (TO PROVE i HACKED INTO YOUR COMPUTER SAY$1,000
ACCOMDATION (YOU PLUS AN ATTORNEY AND HE WON'T STAY ANYWHERE TACKY)
SO IF THE COURT CASE TAKES A WEEK (BECAUSE OF COURSE YOU HAVE SO MUCH EVIDENCE OF WHAT YOU HAVE STATED i HAVE DONE) $4,0000
Then there are court costs, plus of course I will be seeking damages-I honestly don'y know how much the damages would be but court costs are several thousand dollars.
So roughly, it wil cost you $20,000 before damages.
But of course you both have proof of your allegations...don't you?
DO NOT THINK I AM JOKING.
IT IS NOT EVEN THE EMOTIONAL DAMAGE THAT ANNOYS ME SO MUCH. IT IS THE STUPIDITY. I AM SUING YOU FOR DEFAMATION
YES THERE IS A REPORT. OF COURSE THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN IT DO NOT NEED TO COME TO COURT. A WRITTEN STATEMENT WOULD SUFFICE. BESIDES I HAVE IT IN ALMOST FINAL DRAFT FORM.
YOU DO REALISE AS PER THE INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT THAT IF YOU FAIL TO TURN UP IN AN AUSTRALIAN COURT A WARRENT WILL BE ISSUED FOR YOUR ARREST IN THE USA.
THE USA ALWAYS HONOURS AUSTRALIAN LAW IN THESE CASES-CHECK WITH AN ATTORNEY.
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
oh and you better have proof
#128Consumer Comment
Sun, August 17, 2008
That I hacked your account. I actually haven't thought about you in months.
Wow there is so many Defamatory statements in this my anger has gone to bemusement.
You obviously do not know me. Anyone who does would know that I am barely computer literate...lol..just not a talent of mine. Of coure you CAN prove thatg I hacked into a computer of someone who I hadn't thought about in months-yourself, can't you?
Listen Susan McDowell of SouthHampton New York, put your money where your mouth is and provide a list of the websites that I have visted and stalked.
Oh and I will provide a reference to a recent publciation in an academic journal. See, unlike you, I do actaully do something with my life.
Have YOU got a doctorate? Have you published anything? You sem to be in the same place as a year ago -wherever that is.
Better start getting that proof ready - both of you...see I know that neither of you have it...this is going to be fun!
BUT KNOW THIS! I AM DEADLY SERIOUS! I AM TAKING BOTH OF YOU TO COURT FOR DEFAMATION. IT IS GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE FOR YOU BOTH AS YOU WILL BE REQUIRED BY US LAW TO FLY YOURSELF AND AN ATTORNEY OUT TO AUSTRALIA ATTEND COURT.
IT WON'T COST ME ANYTHING THAT I CANNOT AFFORD. YOU CAN APPLY TO HAVE IT HEARD IN THE US BUT THE LAW IS CLEAR THAT ON THE INTERNET THE CASE CAN BE HEARD IN THE LOCATION IN WHICH THE COURT ACTION IS COMMENCED AS LONG AS THE DEFAMATORY STAEMENTS ARE ACEESIBLE IN THAT PLACE
GUESS WHERE I AM. LITTLE OLD ADELAIDE. NOW THE COST
AIRFARES USD$3,000 EACH- YOU PLUS AN ATTORNEY=$6,000
INTERNET EXPERT (TO PROVE i HACKED INTO YOUR COMPUTER SAY$1,000
ACCOMDATION (YOU PLUS AN ATTORNEY AND HE WON'T STAY ANYWHERE TACKY)
SO IF THE COURT CASE TAKES A WEEK (BECAUSE OF COURSE YOU HAVE SO MUCH EVIDENCE OF WHAT YOU HAVE STATED i HAVE DONE) $4,0000
Then there are court costs, plus of course I will be seeking damages-I honestly don'y know how much the damages would be but court costs are several thousand dollars.
So roughly, it wil cost you $20,000 before damages.
But of course you both have proof of your allegations...don't you?
DO NOT THINK I AM JOKING.
IT IS NOT EVEN THE EMOTIONAL DAMAGE THAT ANNOYS ME SO MUCH. IT IS THE STUPIDITY. I AM SUING YOU FOR DEFAMATION
YES THERE IS A REPORT. OF COURSE THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN IT DO NOT NEED TO COME TO COURT. A WRITTEN STATEMENT WOULD SUFFICE. BESIDES I HAVE IT IN ALMOST FINAL DRAFT FORM.
YOU DO REALISE AS PER THE INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT THAT IF YOU FAIL TO TURN UP IN AN AUSTRALIAN COURT A WARRENT WILL BE ISSUED FOR YOUR ARREST IN THE USA.
THE USA ALWAYS HONOURS AUSTRALIAN LAW IN THESE CASES-CHECK WITH AN ATTORNEY.
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
oh and you better have proof
#128Consumer Comment
Sun, August 17, 2008
That I hacked your account. I actually haven't thought about you in months.
Wow there is so many Defamatory statements in this my anger has gone to bemusement.
You obviously do not know me. Anyone who does would know that I am barely computer literate...lol..just not a talent of mine. Of coure you CAN prove thatg I hacked into a computer of someone who I hadn't thought about in months-yourself, can't you?
Listen Susan McDowell of SouthHampton New York, put your money where your mouth is and provide a list of the websites that I have visted and stalked.
Oh and I will provide a reference to a recent publciation in an academic journal. See, unlike you, I do actaully do something with my life.
Have YOU got a doctorate? Have you published anything? You sem to be in the same place as a year ago -wherever that is.
Better start getting that proof ready - both of you...see I know that neither of you have it...this is going to be fun!
BUT KNOW THIS! I AM DEADLY SERIOUS! I AM TAKING BOTH OF YOU TO COURT FOR DEFAMATION. IT IS GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE FOR YOU BOTH AS YOU WILL BE REQUIRED BY US LAW TO FLY YOURSELF AND AN ATTORNEY OUT TO AUSTRALIA ATTEND COURT.
IT WON'T COST ME ANYTHING THAT I CANNOT AFFORD. YOU CAN APPLY TO HAVE IT HEARD IN THE US BUT THE LAW IS CLEAR THAT ON THE INTERNET THE CASE CAN BE HEARD IN THE LOCATION IN WHICH THE COURT ACTION IS COMMENCED AS LONG AS THE DEFAMATORY STAEMENTS ARE ACEESIBLE IN THAT PLACE
GUESS WHERE I AM. LITTLE OLD ADELAIDE. NOW THE COST
AIRFARES USD$3,000 EACH- YOU PLUS AN ATTORNEY=$6,000
INTERNET EXPERT (TO PROVE i HACKED INTO YOUR COMPUTER SAY$1,000
ACCOMDATION (YOU PLUS AN ATTORNEY AND HE WON'T STAY ANYWHERE TACKY)
SO IF THE COURT CASE TAKES A WEEK (BECAUSE OF COURSE YOU HAVE SO MUCH EVIDENCE OF WHAT YOU HAVE STATED i HAVE DONE) $4,0000
Then there are court costs, plus of course I will be seeking damages-I honestly don'y know how much the damages would be but court costs are several thousand dollars.
So roughly, it wil cost you $20,000 before damages.
But of course you both have proof of your allegations...don't you?
DO NOT THINK I AM JOKING.
IT IS NOT EVEN THE EMOTIONAL DAMAGE THAT ANNOYS ME SO MUCH. IT IS THE STUPIDITY. I AM SUING YOU FOR DEFAMATION
YES THERE IS A REPORT. OF COURSE THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN IT DO NOT NEED TO COME TO COURT. A WRITTEN STATEMENT WOULD SUFFICE. BESIDES I HAVE IT IN ALMOST FINAL DRAFT FORM.
YOU DO REALISE AS PER THE INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT THAT IF YOU FAIL TO TURN UP IN AN AUSTRALIAN COURT A WARRENT WILL BE ISSUED FOR YOUR ARREST IN THE USA.
THE USA ALWAYS HONOURS AUSTRALIAN LAW IN THESE CASES-CHECK WITH AN ATTORNEY.
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
oh and you better have proof
#128Consumer Comment
Sun, August 17, 2008
That I hacked your account. I actually haven't thought about you in months.
Wow there is so many Defamatory statements in this my anger has gone to bemusement.
You obviously do not know me. Anyone who does would know that I am barely computer literate...lol..just not a talent of mine. Of coure you CAN prove thatg I hacked into a computer of someone who I hadn't thought about in months-yourself, can't you?
Listen Susan McDowell of SouthHampton New York, put your money where your mouth is and provide a list of the websites that I have visted and stalked.
Oh and I will provide a reference to a recent publciation in an academic journal. See, unlike you, I do actaully do something with my life.
Have YOU got a doctorate? Have you published anything? You sem to be in the same place as a year ago -wherever that is.
Better start getting that proof ready - both of you...see I know that neither of you have it...this is going to be fun!
BUT KNOW THIS! I AM DEADLY SERIOUS! I AM TAKING BOTH OF YOU TO COURT FOR DEFAMATION. IT IS GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE FOR YOU BOTH AS YOU WILL BE REQUIRED BY US LAW TO FLY YOURSELF AND AN ATTORNEY OUT TO AUSTRALIA ATTEND COURT.
IT WON'T COST ME ANYTHING THAT I CANNOT AFFORD. YOU CAN APPLY TO HAVE IT HEARD IN THE US BUT THE LAW IS CLEAR THAT ON THE INTERNET THE CASE CAN BE HEARD IN THE LOCATION IN WHICH THE COURT ACTION IS COMMENCED AS LONG AS THE DEFAMATORY STAEMENTS ARE ACEESIBLE IN THAT PLACE
GUESS WHERE I AM. LITTLE OLD ADELAIDE. NOW THE COST
AIRFARES USD$3,000 EACH- YOU PLUS AN ATTORNEY=$6,000
INTERNET EXPERT (TO PROVE i HACKED INTO YOUR COMPUTER SAY$1,000
ACCOMDATION (YOU PLUS AN ATTORNEY AND HE WON'T STAY ANYWHERE TACKY)
SO IF THE COURT CASE TAKES A WEEK (BECAUSE OF COURSE YOU HAVE SO MUCH EVIDENCE OF WHAT YOU HAVE STATED i HAVE DONE) $4,0000
Then there are court costs, plus of course I will be seeking damages-I honestly don'y know how much the damages would be but court costs are several thousand dollars.
So roughly, it wil cost you $20,000 before damages.
But of course you both have proof of your allegations...don't you?
DO NOT THINK I AM JOKING.
IT IS NOT EVEN THE EMOTIONAL DAMAGE THAT ANNOYS ME SO MUCH. IT IS THE STUPIDITY. I AM SUING YOU FOR DEFAMATION
YES THERE IS A REPORT. OF COURSE THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN IT DO NOT NEED TO COME TO COURT. A WRITTEN STATEMENT WOULD SUFFICE. BESIDES I HAVE IT IN ALMOST FINAL DRAFT FORM.
YOU DO REALISE AS PER THE INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT THAT IF YOU FAIL TO TURN UP IN AN AUSTRALIAN COURT A WARRENT WILL BE ISSUED FOR YOUR ARREST IN THE USA.
THE USA ALWAYS HONOURS AUSTRALIAN LAW IN THESE CASES-CHECK WITH AN ATTORNEY.
Janice
Adelaide,Australia,
Australia
I AM TAKING YOU TO COURT-AND SHEENA DELTA SHINING LIES-BOTH OF YOU
#128Consumer Comment
Sun, August 17, 2008
I continue to harass you daily? I blocked your emails last year. I DID HOWEVER KEEP THE THREATENING ONES
YOU HAD BETTER HAVE PROOF THAT I 'CONTINUE TO HARRASS YOU DAILY' SUSAN McDOWELL OF SOUTHHAMPTON NEW YOURK
No, I am not going to NY in November. I AM TAKING YOU TO COURT
I just found out I can sue you for Defamation from the comfort of my own home.
Defamation laws differ between Australia and the US.
Common law now accepts statements made in groups etc as 'single publications' and is included in the same category as comments made in a newspaper.
The difference in law is that the US considers it only applies to the local area. The Australian High Court ruled that Defamation occurs anywhere it can be read.
This means I can sue you from the comfort of my own state. Liveperson is obliged to give out a person's details upon the presentation of a court order.
You shouldn't be too hard to find.
BETTER GET THAT PROOF READY-JUST LIKE YOU HAD ALL THIS PROOF OF PSYCHICS DEFRAUDING YOU THAT NEVER MATERIALISED.
I AM NOT JOKING. I AM SUING YOU FOR DEFAMATION. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO ENDANGER MY FRAIL FATHER. HE HAS NOT GOT LONG AND I AM GOING TO WORRY AGAIN NOW.
I AM GOING TO SUE YOU! I HAVE HAD ENOUGH.
WHILE I AM AT IT I MIGHT AS WELL SUE SHINING LIES.
DON'T BELIEVE IT? A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T BELIEVE I HAD ANY RESEARCH.
THIS IS IT. I AM SUING BOTH OF YOU. I KNOW HOW TO FIND YOU BOTH
I WILL BE STARTING DEFAMATION PROCEEDINGS AGAINST YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
CHECK THE LAW. I DID.