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  • Report:  #970640

Complaint Review: eBay

eBay ebay buyer protection misuse/scam Internet

  • Reported By:
    Mika — Los Angeles California United States of America
  • Submitted:
    Sat, November 17, 2012
  • Updated:
    Sun, November 18, 2012

I sold a TomTom GPS on ebay with clear pictures of the device and it's accessories. I also clearly stated that the battery did not hold charge and needed replacing if the buyer wanted to operate it without it being plugged in to the car charger. Everything went fine at first I shipped it to the buyer jj140342 and he received it. After few days I gave him positive feedback expecting to get it myself too because I sold the unit very cheaply since the battery wasn't in good condition anymore. Right after I gave my feedback things took a turn to worse.

The buyer suddenly started complaining that the battery doesn't hold charge and it has wrong traffic antenna. Didn't the buyer read the listing at all?? I explained to the buyer that the traffic antenna is the original one that came with the GPS when I bought it new from TomTom and explained that the antenna was to be connected to the micro-USB plug and the charger was to be connected to the micro-USB slot on the antenna. Buyer didn't believe and demanded me to send him a new one which would have costed almost as much as he paid for the whole package.

I offered to refund the purchase price if he returned the package to me but he demanded full price including shipping. Since I refused to do that because I had clear no returns policy and the item was as described in the listing. So he filed a buyer protection case and claimed the item was not as described. I immediately escalated it to ebay customer service and explained that I had described the condition of the battery and that the traffic antenna was correct. I even added some links to show that the antenna was what should be on that unit. Still ebay sided with the buyer and gave him full refund. The buyer also gave me negative review claiming I was a scammer. I've had only positive reviews and everyone has been happy with what they have bought from me except this guy.

When the unit finally arrived it was missing a manual and charger which the buyer eventually mailed me. One I inspected everything I noticed that it had a installation poster with the exact same traffic antenna and showed the installation procedure just as I had told the buyer. I scanned it and sent to the buyer to show he was wrong and demanded that he retract his feedback and close the case. He didn't respond at all so I reopened the case and demanded ebay to reverse their decision based on the new evidence I provided. They didn't even after they took additional time to "investigate". Since they had already paid the buyer they didn't want to get stuck being wrong so they stuck me with the expenses. I lost shipping cost and paypal fees. 

Since I wasn't happy with their decision I filed a case with BBB and asked them to refund me the shipping and paypal fees which totalled only about $15. Not much but it is the systematic siding with buyers no matter if they are wrong or not that gets me. I'm not the only one to complain of similar situation where the buyer abuses the system and makes unsubstantiated claims. It wasn't a surprise at all when the BBB claim turned out to be a bust.  Ben Parker from the eBay's office of the President responded to the claim and sited their policies that it's solely at their discretion and once they have made a decision they won't change it.

I understand their business need to side with buyers because if buyers aren't confident to buy their will go out of business but still they should prevent buyer miss use of the system. 

I will gladly join any class action suite against eBay and urge other sellers to complain loudly here and take the time to file a claim at BBB. 

 

2 Updates & Rebuttals


thefinn

California,
United States of America

I should have known better

#3Author of original report

Sun, November 18, 2012

Yeah, I should have done my homework better and refuse to even sell to him. The first warning sign was when he offered way lower price before the listing even ended. Unfortunately I was camping at that time and had really spotty network access to even respond. By the time I got back to civilization the listing had ended and he had out bid someone else. I only looked at his feedback which was 100% positive but I should have also looked at the feedback he had given which I did at later time. That reviled that he was very critical and probably didn't read the listings. I've learned my lesson and I will not give positive feedback to anyone before I get it and I've sold several items since without a single problem. I even sold the GPS in question at much higher price after I took the time to replace the battery myself. I'm now looking into Amazon as alternative place to sell my used stuff I don't need anymore. 


richard

Grand rapids,
Michigan,
United States of America

Homework pays off

#3Consumer Comment

Sun, November 18, 2012

Before I started selling on ebay I looked into a lot of issues. This site provides a lot of information on the upsides and downsides on ebay. I knew ahead of time that if a buyer complains that there would be a 99% probability that I would in some way shape or form be forced to issue a full refund including shipping.
Ebay has a lot of both buyers and sellers who use and manipulate ebays policies to screw people. This site proves it so. And people can be stupid enough to not read the entire listing and I too had to deal with that issue but if I decided to get anal I would not only be forced to give them a refund but to also take a negative.
In the back of my mind I would really hate to take a customer complaint and fight them....and have them come on this site and post a report on me.
I'm not saying that what took place was right in this report because that does suck about what happend to you. You did your part by posting an accurate descrption but in the end you can turn a negative into a positive.

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