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Ecommerce Education Services Ecommerce Education Services, LLC; Internet Coaching Program; Ecommerce EDU, LLC; Ecommerce Support (ECS); Supplier Source, LLC; Supplier Search, LLC; E-Business Solutions; Internet Service Provider; Business Learning Software, Inc.; Investment Associate Ecommerce on line educational program scam Eagle; Lindon; Orem Utah
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Devan TeaEvents:
The names of the company and affiliates may be different today as they change them to be able to stay in business and to escape the reports and bad reputation even here. Their e-mail addresses, web site URL and phone numbers are also being change. The names could be false.
I was unemployed and looking for a job opportunity on me trusted sites as Monster.com, CareerBuilder.com... On Saturday, March 2, 2013 I was searching Internet these sites to find a position in my field. I came across an ad promising income from the work at home. I checked it out only to find out that this opportunity was not for me. On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 a person who introduced himself as Simon contacted me and started to sell their program. He told me the requirements for this program are:
He talked about drop shipping, affiliate marketing, described a perfect product, explain SEO – Search Engine Optimization for my web site and many more.
He then wanted me to draw a line on the paper and mark the Day 1 (when I invest $6,895), Day 30 (when I pay only minimum payment roughly $120 but to make $800), Day 60 to make another minimum payment of $120 but make $2100) Day 90 to make minimum payment of $120 but make $3-4,000) and finally Day120 to make a minimum payment and make 97% of my investment. Shortly after that all my investments are 100% back.
I was not interested explaining the guy that this is not something I would be interested because I was not a type of the person to succeed in such business. He then told me that this is a proven business and they would teach me how to make lots of money in short time. Being without the job, almost desperate, I believed the guy that this could actually work. All I have to do is follow their instructions. I thought myself there are probably lots of people making good money on-line selling products. It seemed to be a good opportunity so I gave the guy my American Express card number and let him charge me $6,895.00 only because he verbally guaranteed an income. These people are very good sales people and know how to fool honest person. He stayed with me the whole time while I was signing the contract and when I stumbled at the sections that stated “I agree that no claims of future earnings have been presented to me by any representative of the company, and that they do not represent I will earn any specific amount of money” because I would not get into this program if I do not make money, he said that this is just standard wordage and he personally guarantee I make money with them, he just can say if it’s $5,000 or $20,000/ months – that will depend on me.
The agreement I signed was providing:
Their representatives talked about future earnings all the time. My decision was based on that speech specifically. I would understand that they could not guarantee any specific amount of money that I would earn in the future (that would be impossible) but they did speak of certain amounts also all the time. I was making notes and am providing them to you as well.
On March 6, 2013 my coach, Devan Tea, called me and started official coaching. I took this opportunity very seriously and eagerly started to learn as much as I could. I watched the webinars he recommended and started to learn mostly about e-Bay. My first experience with my coach was very disappointing. He does not provide any coaching; he’s just asking me to learn things on my own. There is no positive direction that would lead even to one successful sale on e-Bay. All he was suggesting was to list as many items as possible to learn from that. I had to learn almost everything about e-Bay, shipping, extra charges on my own and from e-Bay. I started to feel very bad about this program and at this point I was more worried about the getting my money back rather than to earn enough money to support my family. I still believed that with a hard work I will get the money back, even if it would take 6 months or more.
On March 12, 2013 Mike Olaski from different affiliated business, Daeus Financial, called me and explained to me a need for LLC – Limited Liability Company. He explained that while offering merchandise on e-Bay is a good strategy for start the ultimate financial security comes from drop shipping and affiliated companies. In that case I would need:
He offered me three types of entities:
See my separate report on Daeus Financial Services.
On March 20,2013 my coach Devan told me that another person named James would call me soon to talk about the drop shipping. On March 27, 2013 James introduced himself calling from another affiliate company – Supplier Search LLC and explained to me that without their help I will not be able to do drop shipping and I would limit myself only to sell on e-Bay. Knowing that making money on e-Bay is hard and I could not support myself (or supplement my regular income) and focusing just on getting my money back I agreed that drop shipping would probably get me out of dept faster.
He offered me this service for additional $12.000 and I said that is just too much and I could not afford such a risk. He spoke to me at least 30 minutes finally offering the same service for $6.500 to which I agreed, especially when I was told that this is very final investment and nothing would hold me back from making a fortune. Only in about 5 days I realized that everything I heard so far was a lie.
But only after purchasing a program from Supplier Source, LLC and getting a chance to contact actual drop shippers I realized that this is not an honest opportunity and there is a lot of misleading information, false promises, and even lies given to me while they had me to sign the agreement that no such claims were made to me.
This company is very confusing to a person who signs in. They are under many different names and addresses. They work with many different affiliates to create confusion. Each charge is coming from different place and e-mails from different domains. They even change the domains while you communicate with them to get a failure notice of undeliverable message from you to them. The agreements carry different names from the charges on the credit card and actual emails.
When I contacted them about my claims, both separately, I was told by my coach:
From: Devan Tea <devan@icoachmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 3:53 PM
“At this point, a refund is not an option. When signing up for the program and the MSS package you agreed to a contract which states that you had three business days to cancel. You're well past that three day period in both cases.”
How could one coach handle both contracts contracted with two different companies?
Beware, these are dishonest entities, dishonest people and their service is just a scam. Do not get involve with these people! You only loose a lot of money. The only thing that drives them is greedy.
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George
Ogden,Utah,
Ecommerce Education Services Ecommerce Education Services, LLC; Internet Coaching Program; Ecommerce EDU, LLC; Ecommerce Support ,ECS; Supplier Source, LLC; Supplier Search, LLC; E-Business Solutions
#2Author of original report
Thu, February 20, 2014
Companies and people involved: Beware as these people change the names, phone numbers and emails to stay in business of ripping off their potential clients. The names of the company and affiliates may be different today as they change them to be able to stay in business and to escape the reports and bad reputation even here. Their e-mail addresses, web site URL and phone numbers are also being periodically changed. The names could be false. My story is similar if not the same as the stories of other victims found under just few listed report numbers below: 843394, 858507, 866762, 869514, 879623, 885037, 905507, 921808, 924816, 926046, 935022, 935933, 955318, 960232, 961304, 961801, 966487, 970914, 971948, 992426, 998437, 1000222, 1005721, 1009171, 1009764, 1010705, 1040996, 1065650, 1069967, 1073378, 1075718, 1083278, 1090405, 1091023, 1095020, 1095538, 1099449, 1103444, 1121269, It is their business model not an individual case and they get clients only by lying to them up front. Beware, these are dishonest entities, dishonest people and their service is just a scam. The only thing that drives them is greediness.