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Complaint Review: ELEMENT5 INFO

ELEMENT5 INFO I have no idea who they are, but they've got my $$ Cologne Internet *EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back into your bank account!

  • Reported By:
    Roseburg Oregon
  • Submitted:
    Fri, January 18, 2008
  • Updated:
    Tue, February 17, 2009
  • ELEMENT5 INFO
    www.element5info.com
    Internet
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    800-4064966
  • Category:

There was a charge of $29.00 posted to my checking account on 1/15/08. All it says on my statement is DRI WWW ELEMENT5 INFO info DE. Since there was no order number or phone number, I googled that whole line and came up with two things: This rip-off report site and a site that matches my bank statement (www.element5info.com).

After going through the site over and over looking for a phone number and not finding one, I went to the Customer Service links and clicked "submit question." Of course it won't let you write out your own, but instead takes you through a serious of screens with pull-down menus to select what your question is about. Finally at the end, there is a link that says something to the effect of: "none of the above links helped me with my question, what else can I do?" When I clicked that, it coughed up a page with a toll free number: (800) 406 - 4966.

I callled it right away, and got an after-business-hours answering service. I will call it back first thing tomorrow and demand that they refund my money, which is what the bank suggested I try first. If nothing can get accomplished that way, I will refer the bank to the rip-off report website to show that this is happening to many other people as well, and demand that they credit my account with the amount stolen. I hope that this report has helped someone else, especially those who have already reported this and gotten nowhere. Good luck, everybody!

Christina
Roseburg, Oregon
U.S.A.

EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back!

HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO:

Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don't delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E.

According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days.

If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it's their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges.

Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you're at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent!

DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!

Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get.

And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state.

Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth.

If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form.

CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD

If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won't contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here.

Remember Don't let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action.

And good luck Let us know how you do!

ED Magedson Founder, Rip-off Report.com & Author of www.ripoffrevenge.com
EDitor@RipoffReport.com
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www.ripoffreport.com

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6 Updates & Rebuttals


Norm

Springfield,
Oregon,
U.S.A.

DRI*ELEMENT5.COM ELEMENT5.INFOMNUS - Found!

#7Consumer Comment

Tue, February 17, 2009

This company works with AVG Internet Security . If you have purchased anything from AVG Internet Security it will show up as (DRI*ELEMENT5.COM ELEMENT5.INFOMNUS) they take care of the billing for AVG Internet Security.

Hope this helps.

Norm


Willie Dean

King,
North Carolina,
U.S.A.

LOOK here Folks!!

#7Consumer Comment

Wed, July 23, 2008

People, I have traced out where the charge has come from, and the one that we are concerned over is where AVG virus programs were purchased for our computers. If you will look in your e-mail receipt at the bottom, it list the very company that you do not recognize that you made a payment to.

element 5 - a service of digital river - www.element5.com
Digital River GmbH
Vogelsanger Str. 78, D-50823 Cologne, Germany
CEO: John Strosahl
Corporate Headquarters: Cologne / HRB 56188 / Cologne Local Court


Allie

Edison,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.

www.element5info.com is actually legitimate

#7Consumer Comment

Mon, July 07, 2008

For the past few months charges have been appearing on my husband and my credit card statement from www.element5info.com. A charge was made on 2/20/08 for $29.95 -- that charge went unnoticed and unquestioned by me. On 4/25/08 there was another charge for $29.95. I e-mailed my husband, who has been deployed to Afghanistan for the past 6 months asking him if he was familiar with the company. He replied in the negative. I immediately called American Express and challenged the charges which were made on his credit card (the card was in the U.S. with me). Today, I checked our Amex account online under "recent activity" and noticed two charges on 6/12/08 for $39.95 each from www.element5info.com. And, just as Christina of Roseburg, Oregon indicated, there was no contact information listed, just an address of the Republic of Germany. I was indignant and called Amex to challenge these additional charges and also request a new credit card for my husband.


After contacting Amex I decided to look through prior e-mails again regarding online purchases and lo and behold, I discovered that the charges were for our annual subscription renewals for PC Tools Spyware Antivirus software. We have 3 laptops and 1 desktop computer, hence the 4 charges over the last few months. At the bottom of the confirming PCTools e-mail was a small notice that advised that our account would show a charge of "www.element5info.com" and since they had my husband's credit card info on file, that was used to automatically renew our subscription for each computer.


In today's criminal environment of stolen identities and credit information, PC Tools has a credit charging system that immediately makes one suspicious because of the way the charges appear on our bill with the lack of contact information, but the bottom line is that the charge is indeed legitimate if you have been ordering PC Tools software. I hope this update helps. Thanks.


Benny

New Porty Richey,
Florida,
U.S.A.

NO PROBLEM WITH COMPANY

#7Consumer Comment

Fri, March 21, 2008

I purchased AVG 7.5 Internet Security software online. Received verification by email - No problem with company.

***
element 5 Order number: xxxxxxxxx
***
This e-mail was generated by a mail handling system. Please do not reply
to the address listed in the "From" field.
Please read the CUSTOMER SERVICE section for answers to your questions.
***

Dear Customer,

Thank you for your order. element 5 processes orders and collects payments
on behalf of GRISOFT LIMITED.

Your credit card (Visa) has been debited with USD 80.90.
Please note that your card statement will list "DR *WWW.ELEMENT5.INFO"

You will receive detailed information on the shipment in a separate e-mail
that was sent at the same time as this e-mail.


The PDF attachment to this e-mail includes an invoice for your order.

***
TECHNICAL SUPPORT

If you have any content-related or technical questions about the product,
please contact the publisher of the software, GRISOFT, directly. For
technical questions please use the following address:
technicalsupport@grisoft.com
For content related questions you can contact the publisher at:
customersupport@grisoft.com

***
CUSTOMER SERVICE

Answers to the most frequently asked questions / Contact:
http://ccc.element5.com/ccc/?languageid=1&pid=xxxxxxxxx

Your order data:
https://ccc.element5.com/ccc/my_account.html?languageid=1&pid=xxxxxxxxx

Viewing PDF documents:
You can download Adobe Reader free of charge from the following location:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readermain.html

Best regards,
Your element 5 team
______

element 5 - a service of digital river - www.element5.com
Digital River GmbH
Vogelsanger Str. 78, D-50823 Cologne, Germany
CEO: John Strosahl
Corporate Headquarters: Cologne / HRB 56188 / Cologne Local Court
______


Ken Seger

Creve Coeur,
Missouri,
U.S.A.

ELEMENT5.INFO COLOGNE = LavaSoft's Ad-Aware download

#7Consumer Comment

Mon, February 04, 2008

WWW.ELEMENT5.INFO COLOGNE is the description that will show up on your bank statement if you use your charge card for a downloadable version or CD version or update of any LavaSoft software such as AD-AWARE, AD-WATCH, et cetra.

Ken


Arun Mani

Omaha,
Nebraska,
U.S.A.

This is downloadble software purchase charge

#7Consumer Comment

Wed, January 30, 2008

I saw the same DRI WWW ELEMENT5 INFO(Services and Merchandise) on the my credit card and did not recognize this charge. When I did a google search this rip of report came up (which scared me) and other software download websites came up. Then I remember that I purchased a piece of software from a website by downloading the software and paying for it online.

That was a relief.
Arun M

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