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Complaint Review: Emerald Passport Teri Poindexter Lonnie Brasher Patricia Winston Rob Feder EPI

Emerald Passport, Teri Poindexter, Lonnie Brasher, Patricia Winston, Rob Feder, EPI A Team ripoff, conned, phony product that is useless and invalid after distributorship expired Panama City Panama Tigard Mississippi Florida Vancouver WA Nationwide

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    Portland Oregon
  • Submitted:
    Fri, May 26, 2006
  • Updated:
    Tue, August 07, 2007
  • Emerald Passport, Teri Poindexter, Lonnie Brasher, Patricia Winston, Rob Feder, EPI
    Nationwide
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I decided to become a distributor for Emerald Passport ( EPI ) back in the fall of 2004. My direct Phase I sponsor was Teri Poindexter ( she is now a Phase II director for EPI ) who lives in Oregon, and my Phase II director was Lonnie Brasher who resides in Mississippi. The team we were a member of was known as EPI's "A Team". It supposedly produced the most sales of any EPI team, in part to Teri's, Lonnie's, and also Patricia Winston of Vancouver, WA were the primary leaders of the group and all three of them were doing literally about 95% of all the training calls.

I was purchasing targeting advertising for this business about every 7-10 days, including the "Emerald Leads" that Lonnie Brasher was selling to EPI distributors primarly in our team ( these leads were either B.S. leads which are VERY over-priced because most prospects I'd speak to didn't know or hear of EPI, or I didn't have that instinct-only phone sales skill.) Well, needless to say, after receiving some help when Teri was available, and spending over $3500 on leads and advertising, I was about to end my distributorship ( because I could not produce even one sale ) when Teri told me of a gentleman by the name of Rob Feder ( a doctor from Florida ) had joined the team and found a way to end the failures so many in this line of direct sales, MLM, etc. have--and that is failure to produce sales from over the telephone. Mr. Feder's program was known as "Road Map to Gold", and I agreed to become one of the EPI distributors to purchase this sure-proof way to success.

After dishing out another $500 for this, a few weeks, and over 1000 emails later sent out to prospects over that time, Rob Feder and the rest of our "leaders" figured it was not working as they advertised, but for anyone who used the program, was not entitled to a refund. Following this, I was naturally very upset, and both Dr. Rob Feder as well as Teri Poindexter would not return my phone calls or emails, so I ended my distributorship when the end of the first year approached. The day after my EPI distributorship ended, I was no longer able to access "my product" on my EPI website, because I would get a username/password invalid. I promptly emailed EPI's headquarters located in Panama City, Panama and they failed to return any of my three emails I sent to them.

Then I learned that the "product" I had access to was merely by rental use only ( something that is not described in EPI's Terms of Conditions agreement. )

How many others have had problems with Emerald Passport/ EPI A Team including Teri Poindexter, Lonnie Brasher, Patricia Winston or Dr. Rob Feder?

*** Buyer Beware when dealing with any of these individuals and Emerald Passport itself***

Jay
Portland, Oregon
U.S.A.

14 Updates & Rebuttals


Ray

Grand Junction, Co. 81503,
Colorado,
U.S.A.

EPI A Great Company That Provides Value In Their Wealth and Self Development Products

#15Consumer Comment

Tue, August 07, 2007

Been with EPI for over a year now, and find the company in every way, completely honest. I purchased the Passport to Prosperity courses, and many of them have saved me thousands of dollars, especially the Real Estate course. There are 7 other courses all have tremendous value, for those that are willing to learn. Through my associatiion with EPI, I have been able to take my son to the number one page on a Google search engine. I have attended their Wealth and Self conferences, and met the highest caliber of people from throughout the World,
including Mark Victor Hansen, author of "The Chicken Soup" series.

EPI has changed many customers lives for the better both in income, quality of life and more time with their families. It is a business, and like all businesses you make your investment and do the work required to learn the business.

For those that do not have the money for a franchise, now that requires several
hundred thousand or more dollars, this is the next best thing that I know of, would
recommend it to anyone with no reservations.


Diana

Atlanta,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

Emerald Passport

#15UPDATE Employee

Tue, July 17, 2007

I read your report about Emerald Passport, and I have to disagree.

I have been part of the company for over a year now, and have seen incredible results. I understand that your experience was different; however, your experience is certainly not the norm.

The company products are invaluable to anyone wanting to build wealth, and the system that is currently in place is quite revolutionary and taking the entire direct sales industry by storm.

One thing I know is that whenever a person's results are completely dependent on their willingness to grow personally and learn new skills, it is an easy way out to blame the company and their Director when they do not see the results they want in their timeframe.

It is a double edged sword. This is a company that anyone can come to and realize an incredible income (look at all the people earning over $10,000 a month consistently) if they apply themselves. At the same time, if that same person is not willing to be coachable, willing to learn the necessary skills, and put the time into building their business, they will not make a lot of money.

Where else can a person go and earn at least $1,000 per sale, and up to $10,000 per sale? My point exactly.

And, for the record, Teri Poindexter is one of the most incredible individuals I've ever had the pleasure to meet. She is one of the grand pubas of this company, and it is a shame that she has to accept this kind of back lash. Teri - we love you and thank you for all your trainings and the time you have invested in us!!

As far as Emerald Passport goes - I think the company is a blessing for anyone willing to step into the vision.

Sincerely,
Diana


Diana

Atlanta,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

Emerald Passport

#15UPDATE Employee

Tue, July 17, 2007

I read your report about Emerald Passport, and I have to disagree.

I have been part of the company for over a year now, and have seen incredible results. I understand that your experience was different; however, your experience is certainly not the norm.

The company products are invaluable to anyone wanting to build wealth, and the system that is currently in place is quite revolutionary and taking the entire direct sales industry by storm.

One thing I know is that whenever a person's results are completely dependent on their willingness to grow personally and learn new skills, it is an easy way out to blame the company and their Director when they do not see the results they want in their timeframe.

It is a double edged sword. This is a company that anyone can come to and realize an incredible income (look at all the people earning over $10,000 a month consistently) if they apply themselves. At the same time, if that same person is not willing to be coachable, willing to learn the necessary skills, and put the time into building their business, they will not make a lot of money.

Where else can a person go and earn at least $1,000 per sale, and up to $10,000 per sale? My point exactly.

And, for the record, Teri Poindexter is one of the most incredible individuals I've ever had the pleasure to meet. She is one of the grand pubas of this company, and it is a shame that she has to accept this kind of back lash. Teri - we love you and thank you for all your trainings and the time you have invested in us!!

As far as Emerald Passport goes - I think the company is a blessing for anyone willing to step into the vision.

Sincerely,
Diana


Diana

Atlanta,
Georgia,
U.S.A.

Emerald Passport

#15UPDATE Employee

Tue, July 17, 2007

I read your report about Emerald Passport, and I have to disagree.

I have been part of the company for over a year now, and have seen incredible results. I understand that your experience was different; however, your experience is certainly not the norm.

The company products are invaluable to anyone wanting to build wealth, and the system that is currently in place is quite revolutionary and taking the entire direct sales industry by storm.

One thing I know is that whenever a person's results are completely dependent on their willingness to grow personally and learn new skills, it is an easy way out to blame the company and their Director when they do not see the results they want in their timeframe.

It is a double edged sword. This is a company that anyone can come to and realize an incredible income (look at all the people earning over $10,000 a month consistently) if they apply themselves. At the same time, if that same person is not willing to be coachable, willing to learn the necessary skills, and put the time into building their business, they will not make a lot of money.

Where else can a person go and earn at least $1,000 per sale, and up to $10,000 per sale? My point exactly.

And, for the record, Teri Poindexter is one of the most incredible individuals I've ever had the pleasure to meet. She is one of the grand pubas of this company, and it is a shame that she has to accept this kind of back lash. Teri - we love you and thank you for all your trainings and the time you have invested in us!!

As far as Emerald Passport goes - I think the company is a blessing for anyone willing to step into the vision.

Sincerely,
Diana


Jay

Clackamas,
Oregon,
U.S.A.

Juliano--read your post, but I still disagree and here's why:

#15Author of original report

Wed, March 21, 2007

Juliano,

Your point is well taken, but I have a question for you. You refer that EPI would help me become unstuck from a emotionally, mentally and psychologically point of view. Why would I want to change where I am at today?

True, I am not in EPI on phone calls all day, but I am also not employed by someone else ( that was my #1 priority goal when I joined EPI is to get out of the rat race that was making someone else rich off my hard working hours. )

I don't have any mental, emotional or psychological stress in the business I am in today, other than a customer changing part of their order at the last second. As I stated I believe in my rebuttal post, I work from home in the sports card business industry. I have been very knowledgable in this subject since I was about 10 yrs old; so I figure why not do something that you love to do? I have in short, turned a lifelong hobby into a very fulfilling, profitable career. Not too many folks out there can say they can do that and still do more than just "get by from paycheck to paycheck". Sure, I am not "relaxing on the beaches of the world", or spending lots of my income on needless material wealths of life, but I am doing better than I was even when I was working lots of OT at my job I had prior to this sports card business.

I am not trying to "dog" Patricia as you've put it; but you are correct, I am angry about my dealings with EPI and what was then, the A-team in general that Patricia, Lonnie, Teri, etc. were a part of when I was in EPI myself. My rift was more with Teri and especially Rob Feder. From reading other posts on here about EPI, it seems like others have rifts with Patricia directly, but not me.

To be frank with you, it doesn't even bother me anymore. I just chalked it up as a learning experience which cemented itself as the final time I work in any sort of MLM, or any other sort of direct sales I know nothing about to previously signing up--that was my mistake. Your a fool if you don't learn from mistakes, and I do learn from my mistakes and never make the same mistake ( especially a financial loss that this one was ) twice.

Good luck to you in your EPI business. I am sure your doing well in it ( some are but as I've said before, it isn't coincidence that only 5 percent of those that join are ) and that it has helped you in different aspects of your life.


Jay

Clackamas,
Oregon,
U.S.A.

Juliano--read your post, but I still disagree and here's why:

#15Author of original report

Wed, March 21, 2007

Juliano,

Your point is well taken, but I have a question for you. You refer that EPI would help me become unstuck from a emotionally, mentally and psychologically point of view. Why would I want to change where I am at today?

True, I am not in EPI on phone calls all day, but I am also not employed by someone else ( that was my #1 priority goal when I joined EPI is to get out of the rat race that was making someone else rich off my hard working hours. )

I don't have any mental, emotional or psychological stress in the business I am in today, other than a customer changing part of their order at the last second. As I stated I believe in my rebuttal post, I work from home in the sports card business industry. I have been very knowledgable in this subject since I was about 10 yrs old; so I figure why not do something that you love to do? I have in short, turned a lifelong hobby into a very fulfilling, profitable career. Not too many folks out there can say they can do that and still do more than just "get by from paycheck to paycheck". Sure, I am not "relaxing on the beaches of the world", or spending lots of my income on needless material wealths of life, but I am doing better than I was even when I was working lots of OT at my job I had prior to this sports card business.

I am not trying to "dog" Patricia as you've put it; but you are correct, I am angry about my dealings with EPI and what was then, the A-team in general that Patricia, Lonnie, Teri, etc. were a part of when I was in EPI myself. My rift was more with Teri and especially Rob Feder. From reading other posts on here about EPI, it seems like others have rifts with Patricia directly, but not me.

To be frank with you, it doesn't even bother me anymore. I just chalked it up as a learning experience which cemented itself as the final time I work in any sort of MLM, or any other sort of direct sales I know nothing about to previously signing up--that was my mistake. Your a fool if you don't learn from mistakes, and I do learn from my mistakes and never make the same mistake ( especially a financial loss that this one was ) twice.

Good luck to you in your EPI business. I am sure your doing well in it ( some are but as I've said before, it isn't coincidence that only 5 percent of those that join are ) and that it has helped you in different aspects of your life.


Jay

Clackamas,
Oregon,
U.S.A.

Juliano--read your post, but I still disagree and here's why:

#15Author of original report

Wed, March 21, 2007

Juliano,

Your point is well taken, but I have a question for you. You refer that EPI would help me become unstuck from a emotionally, mentally and psychologically point of view. Why would I want to change where I am at today?

True, I am not in EPI on phone calls all day, but I am also not employed by someone else ( that was my #1 priority goal when I joined EPI is to get out of the rat race that was making someone else rich off my hard working hours. )

I don't have any mental, emotional or psychological stress in the business I am in today, other than a customer changing part of their order at the last second. As I stated I believe in my rebuttal post, I work from home in the sports card business industry. I have been very knowledgable in this subject since I was about 10 yrs old; so I figure why not do something that you love to do? I have in short, turned a lifelong hobby into a very fulfilling, profitable career. Not too many folks out there can say they can do that and still do more than just "get by from paycheck to paycheck". Sure, I am not "relaxing on the beaches of the world", or spending lots of my income on needless material wealths of life, but I am doing better than I was even when I was working lots of OT at my job I had prior to this sports card business.

I am not trying to "dog" Patricia as you've put it; but you are correct, I am angry about my dealings with EPI and what was then, the A-team in general that Patricia, Lonnie, Teri, etc. were a part of when I was in EPI myself. My rift was more with Teri and especially Rob Feder. From reading other posts on here about EPI, it seems like others have rifts with Patricia directly, but not me.

To be frank with you, it doesn't even bother me anymore. I just chalked it up as a learning experience which cemented itself as the final time I work in any sort of MLM, or any other sort of direct sales I know nothing about to previously signing up--that was my mistake. Your a fool if you don't learn from mistakes, and I do learn from my mistakes and never make the same mistake ( especially a financial loss that this one was ) twice.

Good luck to you in your EPI business. I am sure your doing well in it ( some are but as I've said before, it isn't coincidence that only 5 percent of those that join are ) and that it has helped you in different aspects of your life.


Jay

Clackamas,
Oregon,
U.S.A.

Juliano--read your post, but I still disagree and here's why:

#15Author of original report

Wed, March 21, 2007

Juliano,

Your point is well taken, but I have a question for you. You refer that EPI would help me become unstuck from a emotionally, mentally and psychologically point of view. Why would I want to change where I am at today?

True, I am not in EPI on phone calls all day, but I am also not employed by someone else ( that was my #1 priority goal when I joined EPI is to get out of the rat race that was making someone else rich off my hard working hours. )

I don't have any mental, emotional or psychological stress in the business I am in today, other than a customer changing part of their order at the last second. As I stated I believe in my rebuttal post, I work from home in the sports card business industry. I have been very knowledgable in this subject since I was about 10 yrs old; so I figure why not do something that you love to do? I have in short, turned a lifelong hobby into a very fulfilling, profitable career. Not too many folks out there can say they can do that and still do more than just "get by from paycheck to paycheck". Sure, I am not "relaxing on the beaches of the world", or spending lots of my income on needless material wealths of life, but I am doing better than I was even when I was working lots of OT at my job I had prior to this sports card business.

I am not trying to "dog" Patricia as you've put it; but you are correct, I am angry about my dealings with EPI and what was then, the A-team in general that Patricia, Lonnie, Teri, etc. were a part of when I was in EPI myself. My rift was more with Teri and especially Rob Feder. From reading other posts on here about EPI, it seems like others have rifts with Patricia directly, but not me.

To be frank with you, it doesn't even bother me anymore. I just chalked it up as a learning experience which cemented itself as the final time I work in any sort of MLM, or any other sort of direct sales I know nothing about to previously signing up--that was my mistake. Your a fool if you don't learn from mistakes, and I do learn from my mistakes and never make the same mistake ( especially a financial loss that this one was ) twice.

Good luck to you in your EPI business. I am sure your doing well in it ( some are but as I've said before, it isn't coincidence that only 5 percent of those that join are ) and that it has helped you in different aspects of your life.


Juliano

New York,
New York,
U.S.A.

Jodi: I get you. I used to be you... But you're wrong.

#15UPDATE Employee

Mon, March 19, 2007

Jodi,

I hope that somehow, one day, through one form or another, that your eyes read what I have to say to you.

I used to be right square in your shoes buddy boy. Irritated, angry, upset, depressed, confused, non-productive; unsure as to how, why, or where I was making my mistakes... impatient with the hoopla that my prospects were putting me through; already not making enough money on my day-job - yet repeatedly investing substantial amounts of money to invest in this business.

I attended the training calls (including the ones during my workday - going as far as staying silent so that my colleagues wouldn't overhear my conversation). I attended the Mindset calls and felt even MORE stuck simply because the things that I was hearing on the calls were things that I simply could not mentally decode - the words that they were saying on those calls, at the time, made zero sense to me.

And we as adults believe that we are old enough to be able to get things right the first time around. So, when we fail, we wonder what in hell went wrong and how is it that it actually COULD HAVE gone wrong since, of course, we're not idiots... we're fully capable and experienced individuals.

Then you get onto the calls with the Enterprise and hear about everyone doing so well without 'this' skill or without 'that' skill or without the qualifications that they felt were necessary to move forward, and they're making ridiculously high amounts of money.

So emotionally - you crash down. You're unsure of why it is that you're stuck in one spot spinning your wheels as if you were parked in snow, while other people zoom right past you as if it were no-traffic on a summer day.

I have been there. That's why I UNDERSTAND where you are coming from.

But,

Now that I'm EMOTIONALLY, MENTALLY, AND PSYCHOLOGICALLY where I am at today (BECAUSE OF EMERALD PASSPORT), I can no longer agree with your claims.

Notice how I didn't say 'financially' where I'm at today. Why? Because I've become so consumed and immersed and addicted to all of the knowledge that I've attained as far as EVOLVING MYSELF (which by the way, I've attained through things recommended to me by the same Patricia Winston whom you've somehow chosen to try to 'dog'), I've become so emotionally dependent upon all of this wealth of knowledge and getting mental and emotional barriers killed within me so that I can feel better about myself and my capabilities and move forward in life possessing and operating in the power that I have within me, I really could give a rat's behind about money or reactivating myself in the business.

Because of this same EPI (which you passionately detest), I'm enjoying life WAY TOO WELL RIGHT NOW. I'm so happy in life that I actually need the time to actually GET USED TO IT!!! My thing is, EPI is not going anywhere. To top it, I'm still a member of my team and am fully aware of all of the latest news. I'm continually in communication with Patricia whom I have so much respect for, words could never describe. When I'm ready, so is she, so are they.

My recommendation to you: head straight back to Teri with your tail between your two legs - but NOT TO GET BACK INTO THE BUSINESS ITSELF; instead, to focus the next 6-12 months on the alternative mindset products that many teams on the company recommend (and by the way, don't earn a commission on for recommending). That is *THE* very thing that has turned my life around. I MEAN IT: HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THAT DAY ON 11/24/04 WHERE I ENCOUNTERED EPI, I WOULD NOT BE WHERE I AM AT TODAY - EMOTIONALLY, MENTALLY, NOR PSYCHOLOGICALLY.

As far as Teri, I don't know Teri personally but I've spoken to her on the phone many MANY times. She is nothing less than a very kind-hearted lady who means nothing less than the utmost respect to all of those whom she interacts with. Patricia is my Director and if it were not for the things that she's led me to, I'd still be - where you, Jodi, are mentally, emotionally, and psychologically still stuck at today. Your mind is off into a paradigm which is surrounded by such anger toward many aspects of life that, that is all you know to do: be angry.

I'm sitting here typing and somehow half-tempted to coach you myself - not on EPI - but how to get out of where you're at on an emotional level. I know what you're going through. I'm a grown man and have CRIED more times than once over THIS BUSINESS and all of the things that I talked about at the beginning of this writing. Now? Please! EPI isn't ready for the amount of money I'll soon be making off of them. They really aren't. Because with all of this that I now have within myself, I'm going to become dangerous.

Your first email - it wasn't a complaint: it was a cry for help.

I made a similar cry for help. The International Marketing Director at the time, not only responded to my email, but took the time to call me at my house - HIMSELF - to encourage me. Why? Because despite my non-existent success, I didn't point the finger of blame. I didn't blame Patricia. I didn't blame the company. I didn't blame the products. I didn't blame the marketing system. I didn't blame the lead vendors.

Something within me always told me that YES IT IS ME, but the problem was that, up until Patricia started recommending all of these peripherals to help me to learn what was within me, NO ONE COULD ACTUALLY OPEN THEIR MOUTHS OR TYPE THE WORDS TO CLEARLY AND/OR ACCURATELY EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT IT WAS - EXACTLY - THAT WAS WRONG WITH ME. Patricia couldn't. The former IMD couldn't. They're not supposed to have to be able to! It is up to YOU to step forward and say "Yes, I need help."

At that point, you'll be all right, my friend. I hope to meet you one day, at a Phase II conference, when you have crossed over to THIS side of reality.

Juliano
New York, New York


Rachel

Chelsea,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

I Believe You Missed the Point of Emerald Passport

#15UPDATE Employee

Mon, November 27, 2006

I am a Phase II Director and the CEO of my own company with Emerald Passport for the last 18 months. I have read this report and the rebuttals with great interest. I have met Teri and Lonnie several times in person and have found them to be of the utmost integrity. I am on a different team and many many of the members are successful.

Emerald Passport is the finest online business of its type. The opportunity is genuine, but one needs to enjoy talking to people, have good communication and leadership skills, and have the ability to attract like minded people or simply go and do another type of business.

The gentleman admits that he was not suited for Emerald Passport in the first place. He did not like to speak with people on the phone or have the patience for prospecting, yet entered into the business just to make money and it is no surprise that he floundered. It is admirable that he admits he did not have the skills, but there is a responsibility one has to others and to the public to not hold someone else responsibile for one's own shortcomings.

What does it tell us about a person who knows that the business is a mismatch for them and then files a ripoff report blaming others for their own personal lacks. The sad part is that Emerald Passport, in addition to being an excellent business also offers people like Jodi/Jay the opportunity to get over hangups and negativity from the past that block their personal and business development...it is an act of pulling out a bigger more evolved self and he appears to have missed that completely. It is not just the money it is who you become in the process...

Readers please note that every excuse has been made blaming every other person, situation or thing, but if you look closely at the root of the situation this ripoff report is an act of retaliation against team members, prospects, lead companies, Emerald Passport...anyone but the person who looks back at him in the mirror because he is too fragile to finally admit he was unwilling to develop the faith in himself required to win. Every person has things that go wrong in life and in any new business, but he dredges it all up and spreads negativity over Internet to discourage others who could have the most positive outcomes of their lives with Emerald Passport and a chance to make a monumental difference in their lives.

I believe that he owes everyone involved an apology for not shouldering what he already knows is true, that his personal lack of skills and preferences doomed his business endeavor with Emerald from the gitgo.

The Emerald Passport product is a college level education in how to make changes to enhance yourself and your finances. I have written an MBAblog about the product from the perspective of one of the foremost MBA professors in the US today on BusinessWeek online at (( link removed by ROR))

But, mostly you have to be willing to change and stop following the rest of the sheep in the pasture who will not learn to achieve what you can...let go of blocks from the past that have held you back and engage diligently in the process taking continuous action. For those that are ready to embrace it, being able to get your life and future the way you want it is exciting. People who "get it" want to passionately give it their all because they have found the way to do it and know the more they act the sooner will be their wealth and time freedom for the rest of their lives for them and their families.

As a mindset and success coach I have helped people overcome the most challenging obstacles possible that have stood in the way of their abilities to function in even the most basic ways...there are the "I Can People" and the "I Can't People". I train people to be " I Will People" with unstoppable positive mindsets.

The key to Emerald Passport and anything else one endeavors in life is belief in yourself. The business is a simple process showing people where they can get more information they requested about an online business. There are dozens of ways to expose people to the opportunity.

My sympathy goes with the author of this report and my hopes would have been that some of the valuable teachings of the Emerald Passport product would have worn off on him, but its not for everyone.

Rachel - Ann Arbor, Michigan
USA


Rachel

Chelsea,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

I Believe You Missed the Point of Emerald Passport

#15UPDATE Employee

Mon, November 27, 2006

I am a Phase II Director and the CEO of my own company with Emerald Passport for the last 18 months. I have read this report and the rebuttals with great interest. I have met Teri and Lonnie several times in person and have found them to be of the utmost integrity. I am on a different team and many many of the members are successful.

Emerald Passport is the finest online business of its type. The opportunity is genuine, but one needs to enjoy talking to people, have good communication and leadership skills, and have the ability to attract like minded people or simply go and do another type of business.

The gentleman admits that he was not suited for Emerald Passport in the first place. He did not like to speak with people on the phone or have the patience for prospecting, yet entered into the business just to make money and it is no surprise that he floundered. It is admirable that he admits he did not have the skills, but there is a responsibility one has to others and to the public to not hold someone else responsibile for one's own shortcomings.

What does it tell us about a person who knows that the business is a mismatch for them and then files a ripoff report blaming others for their own personal lacks. The sad part is that Emerald Passport, in addition to being an excellent business also offers people like Jodi/Jay the opportunity to get over hangups and negativity from the past that block their personal and business development...it is an act of pulling out a bigger more evolved self and he appears to have missed that completely. It is not just the money it is who you become in the process...

Readers please note that every excuse has been made blaming every other person, situation or thing, but if you look closely at the root of the situation this ripoff report is an act of retaliation against team members, prospects, lead companies, Emerald Passport...anyone but the person who looks back at him in the mirror because he is too fragile to finally admit he was unwilling to develop the faith in himself required to win. Every person has things that go wrong in life and in any new business, but he dredges it all up and spreads negativity over Internet to discourage others who could have the most positive outcomes of their lives with Emerald Passport and a chance to make a monumental difference in their lives.

I believe that he owes everyone involved an apology for not shouldering what he already knows is true, that his personal lack of skills and preferences doomed his business endeavor with Emerald from the gitgo.

The Emerald Passport product is a college level education in how to make changes to enhance yourself and your finances. I have written an MBAblog about the product from the perspective of one of the foremost MBA professors in the US today on BusinessWeek online at (( link removed by ROR))

But, mostly you have to be willing to change and stop following the rest of the sheep in the pasture who will not learn to achieve what you can...let go of blocks from the past that have held you back and engage diligently in the process taking continuous action. For those that are ready to embrace it, being able to get your life and future the way you want it is exciting. People who "get it" want to passionately give it their all because they have found the way to do it and know the more they act the sooner will be their wealth and time freedom for the rest of their lives for them and their families.

As a mindset and success coach I have helped people overcome the most challenging obstacles possible that have stood in the way of their abilities to function in even the most basic ways...there are the "I Can People" and the "I Can't People". I train people to be " I Will People" with unstoppable positive mindsets.

The key to Emerald Passport and anything else one endeavors in life is belief in yourself. The business is a simple process showing people where they can get more information they requested about an online business. There are dozens of ways to expose people to the opportunity.

My sympathy goes with the author of this report and my hopes would have been that some of the valuable teachings of the Emerald Passport product would have worn off on him, but its not for everyone.

Rachel - Ann Arbor, Michigan
USA


Rachel

Chelsea,
Michigan,
U.S.A.

I Believe You Missed the Point of Emerald Passport

#15UPDATE Employee

Mon, November 27, 2006

I am a Phase II Director and the CEO of my own company with Emerald Passport for the last 18 months. I have read this report and the rebuttals with great interest. I have met Teri and Lonnie several times in person and have found them to be of the utmost integrity. I am on a different team and many many of the members are successful.

Emerald Passport is the finest online business of its type. The opportunity is genuine, but one needs to enjoy talking to people, have good communication and leadership skills, and have the ability to attract like minded people or simply go and do another type of business.

The gentleman admits that he was not suited for Emerald Passport in the first place. He did not like to speak with people on the phone or have the patience for prospecting, yet entered into the business just to make money and it is no surprise that he floundered. It is admirable that he admits he did not have the skills, but there is a responsibility one has to others and to the public to not hold someone else responsibile for one's own shortcomings.

What does it tell us about a person who knows that the business is a mismatch for them and then files a ripoff report blaming others for their own personal lacks. The sad part is that Emerald Passport, in addition to being an excellent business also offers people like Jodi/Jay the opportunity to get over hangups and negativity from the past that block their personal and business development...it is an act of pulling out a bigger more evolved self and he appears to have missed that completely. It is not just the money it is who you become in the process...

Readers please note that every excuse has been made blaming every other person, situation or thing, but if you look closely at the root of the situation this ripoff report is an act of retaliation against team members, prospects, lead companies, Emerald Passport...anyone but the person who looks back at him in the mirror because he is too fragile to finally admit he was unwilling to develop the faith in himself required to win. Every person has things that go wrong in life and in any new business, but he dredges it all up and spreads negativity over Internet to discourage others who could have the most positive outcomes of their lives with Emerald Passport and a chance to make a monumental difference in their lives.

I believe that he owes everyone involved an apology for not shouldering what he already knows is true, that his personal lack of skills and preferences doomed his business endeavor with Emerald from the gitgo.

The Emerald Passport product is a college level education in how to make changes to enhance yourself and your finances. I have written an MBAblog about the product from the perspective of one of the foremost MBA professors in the US today on BusinessWeek online at (( link removed by ROR))

But, mostly you have to be willing to change and stop following the rest of the sheep in the pasture who will not learn to achieve what you can...let go of blocks from the past that have held you back and engage diligently in the process taking continuous action. For those that are ready to embrace it, being able to get your life and future the way you want it is exciting. People who "get it" want to passionately give it their all because they have found the way to do it and know the more they act the sooner will be their wealth and time freedom for the rest of their lives for them and their families.

As a mindset and success coach I have helped people overcome the most challenging obstacles possible that have stood in the way of their abilities to function in even the most basic ways...there are the "I Can People" and the "I Can't People". I train people to be " I Will People" with unstoppable positive mindsets.

The key to Emerald Passport and anything else one endeavors in life is belief in yourself. The business is a simple process showing people where they can get more information they requested about an online business. There are dozens of ways to expose people to the opportunity.

My sympathy goes with the author of this report and my hopes would have been that some of the valuable teachings of the Emerald Passport product would have worn off on him, but its not for everyone.

Rachel - Ann Arbor, Michigan
USA


Jodi

Clackamas,
Oregon,
U.S.A.

People, Phone Skills, and a lot in business expenses needed here.

#15Author of original report

Wed, November 01, 2006

Actually Teri's rebuttal is full of mixed facts, and exaggerations as well. Let me show you why:

Fact #1: My nickname is Jodi ( after my father's nickname ), but my real name is Jay--I have had legal records to back this up. When I joined Emerald Passport, I went by Jodi, but if I were to have received a check from someone, money order for payment, etc. they are to write it out to Jay.

Fact #2: I did purchase leads every 7-10 days, and don't think I ever went more than literally 12 days without purchasing a lead program, other form of advertising ( I still have receipts that back this up ) and quite often it was twice a week when I was working overtime. They came from various lead sources such as MLM Lead Giant, Leads to Wealth, Fast MLM leads, Traffic Jam leads, etc. in addition to the 4 sets of Emerald Passport Guaranteed movie view leads. I also had 3 seperate Google pay-per-click advertising campaigns going at different times.


Also, I don't recall a business plan we agreed upon during our 1 on 1 coaching session at your place that one day, but I remember the one woman that was supposedly interested, end up wasting both of our time--also during our 1 on 1 session ( even after I was using my breaks at work to contact her ) only to find out she wasn't serious and just wanted to discuss with us her personal life. I also don't ever remember referring in the original post I put on here saying that Rob was a leader. I don't have my original posting in front of me here, but I believe I merely said Rob AND the leaders of our team when I was referring to Rob's program--there is a difference in the content of that sentence.


Fact #3: Every single lead I EVER purchased I made more than one attempt at contacting. About one-half of those were left voice messages and at least two seperate emails. I also still have all paper billing from my cellphone and landline phone I had at the time that back these up too. Yet again, another misconception that Teri had stated in her rebuttal.


Fact #4: I also have receipts ( obviously, I kept receipts of everything I did in this business--just in case there were questions later on ) that I spent in excess of $3500.00, and it is closer to $5500-6000 total expenses in EPI, when you include the actual cost to join ( $1295 ) plus Profit Master set-up and monthly fees, etc. and my phone bills each month running the business; from joining as often as I could on the early morning training calls ( granted I did make the mistake of using a cellphone for this business the first 6 weeks I was in it ) and was running in the neighborhood of $200-250 a month just in the business calls from the cellphone before I had time to get the landline phone hooked up. )


Fact #5: I was working in a food warehouse at the time--( I no longer work there as of June '05 and have worked f/t from home since then in the sports card business ) that is correct, but I am sure I could also provide proof I was not working p/t. I was only working p/t for 4 months and it was so I could take afternoon college classes and I went back to f/t status before even joining Emerald Passport, thus making in excess of $2000/mo. net so I could afford my house payment, and other bills. Really Teri, you think if I was working p/t, I would be able to afford a house payment ( new house built in early 2003 ), and property taxes in Oregon--one of the most expensive states to live in, in addition to car payment, food, utilities, etc!? Get real.


True, I didn't share this with you or anyone else on the team, because that is my financial business, and nobody else's business if they're not directly helping me pay my bills. I did take out a credit card, yes for this business, but it was used solely for lead purchasing only--another mistake I made I'll admit.


Fact #6: I still have ( but no longer use ) the Outlook email that was used for Rob's LMS program--and all the sent emails I sent out, totalling 1,155. I was entering in and sending out over 300 emails per day on and off throughout the day, until the 4th day, I received a email from Comcast ( my provider at the time ) that stated I would be shut down for "spamming" if it continued. They emailed me a email stating their rules for spamming and the consequences of it; though I didn't believe at the time that is what I was doing since all emails sent were to people who asked for information on starting a home based business. So I stopped sending these EPI intro emails out and the same day, or within a few days, was told by Rob that the system would not work and I was not entitled to the refund because yes, I did use the system ( another mistake I made. )


Fact #7: I stopped using the LMS system immediately after hearing from Rob that the program would not work because of the phone contact that needed to be done with the prospects and I was not getting any sort of refund back ( besides the email from Comcast.) I did NOT keep using it like you said in your rebuttal, because I naturally figured why bother wasting anymore of my time with it.


Fact #8: I have not been slamming the group on every board online I can find--I have mentioned some of these complaints on other boards in *threads* of other's who have asked about Emerald Passport asking for others ideas on how it works, the cost, other's experience with EPI, etc. and I have shared what my experience was. It is not like I am searching for work-at-home boards, etc. starting posts slamming the group--that is VERY exaggerated. This is the ONLY website I'm aware of where I started a thread about my experience with EPI.


Fact #9: Due to that I can't access my product I purchased, or the business website itself, that is why I didn't know you were a Phase 3 level now, as well as that of any responses EPI may have sent to me--I just know they did NOT respond to my emails asking for my username and password that were sent directly from my email I was registered with on the EPI site, and I did not include an attachment or other suspicious things to the email that would have caused concern on their part for not even opening it up.


Fact #10: I admit I had refused some of your coaching in regards to the leads and such, but I NEVER refused any coaching from anyone else. I had actually emailed Patricia just after I got started because both Dan ( a cross-line guy that needed help as much as I did and was my "phone partner" when making the prospect calls ) and I had a question and you were ill and when Patricia did the morning training call, she said if anyone had questions to get with her and she would respond. Dan was also attempting to contact her, but to my knowledge to no avail so he said he would ask her during another morning training call.


Truth betold here, that this business takes phone skills and a LOT of time on the phone making calls. Sure, I will gladly admit that the payouts ( if your one of the very few that are successful ) are substantial, and that I made more than one mistake in this business--yes due to embarrasement I don't share a lot of it unless asked. I also don't believe it is coincidence that the success rate in this line of business is under 5 percent. You either have the phone sales skill or you don't, and correct, I obviously don't.


Teri says at the end of her rebuttal it is the best business she has seen or been a part of; well that would be for her. I know she is one of the few that are successful in EPI. I believe people should do something they are passionate about. If you're passionate about trying to convince or describe to a prospect--over the phone--the idea of an online financial education system, by all means do it. If you sign up with EPI for the idea of being wealthy one day, travelling the beaches of the world or other false hopes, your doomed. I had no idea of the amount of phone time I would be doing until I was past my 72 hour notice that EPI has ( or had back when I was active in the business. )


I suppose that is another one of the positive aspects for me when running a sports card business from home--I do not ever have to convince someone over the phone to buy. All sales are done online or advertising offline in sports magazines, journals, etc.


Teri

Portland,
Oregon,
U.S.A.

People skills required to run your own business

#15REBUTTAL Individual responds

Sun, October 29, 2006

This posting is incorrect from the title all the way to the name at the end.



My name is listed first because the author of this report was direct to me. His name is Jodi, not Jay and he has been posting similiar articles on every board he can find over the last 2 year. He was someone that made a feeble attempt at a serious business but lacked the people skills to be successful and refused all coaching by various people on the team. He even came to my house for a 1-on-1 coaching session and then did not follow up on business plan we agreed upon.



It's also interesting that he quit the business over a year ago, the "A Team" grew too big and we split up last Dec '05, Rob Feder was NEVER a leader and Jodi's product TO THIS DAY remains active and available for his use. His distributorship has NOT expired and he could actually operate his business IMMEDIATELY if he choose.



Let's look more deeply at his actual statments.



1) I became a Phase 2 director in Dec '04 and have been a Phase 3 Director since July '05 - he should check his back office for accuracy.



2) Yes, we did produce the most sales of any team in the company and individually our teams continue to be huge producers.



3) Jodi never purchased leads every 7-10 days -- he only made a few purchases over his entire time of trying and then he never called 1/2 of them. I made several attempts to work with him on his phone skills but he felt he could do it on his own. The lead sources he used were the SAME ones all of us were making our sales with but the problem was NOT the leads.



4) He never spend anywhere near $3500 total in this business - he doesn't have that kind of money. He works part-time in a warehouse of a food chain and could barely get his business up and going let alone buy leads regularly. He did take out a credit card - against my coaching - to have more available, but that had a small limit which he maxed out purchasing another program he found on the internet that was suppose to help him have people calling him so he wouldn't have to make calls. Jodi was always looking for the easy way around work.



5) I didn't tell him about Rob, he heard Rob on our training call talk about a new software program he was developing and wanted about 15 people to "test" it. He offered us a discount over what he was GOING to market it for once it was up and running. It did require a special contact manager software that was on the market - LMS - at a cost of $250. It was made CLEAR that anyone particating in this program was doing a TEST. I advised Jodi NOT to spend his money on a test but he again went against my coaching and signed up.



6) Rob was not finished with the software and needed our input so we had bi-weekly meetings for updates and input as he built the sites. Jodi did not attend most of these meetings because he worked nights and this was right when he planned to go to bed. The software/websites were ready for "testing" but NOT for using. We all entered a few leads and then waited for the results. Jodi entered several (not 1000) althought he DID enter all his contacts into the LMS program he had purchased. That was a stand alone program available to anyone and is still being used by people and available to ANYONE to purchase that is looking for a contact manager.



7) After the initial 4 week test we saw that the whole idea of "no-contact" in this business was not going to work and we all agreed to cancel the program. Rob refunded his portion of the money to anyone who asked. I recieved my refund in whole minus the web hosting cost of I think $50. Anyone that continued to use the program past this point would not recieve a refund. Jodi continued to use the program thinking he could make it work -- again trying to avoid the phone contact skills he lacked.



8) The LMS purchase was different. IF we had not used the program the company refunded us (I had not used it as it was not necessary for the test) Jodi had loaded his leads into it and had been using it the whole month. He was not eligible for a refund. This upset him and ever since he's been slamming all of us all on every board he can find omitting the facts and just venting at our expense.



9) The distributorship renewal from the company has never been enforces as of this writing and he did NOT lose his status with the company.



10) I returned ALL emails and phone calls but he has refused to speak to me - I'm guessing do to embarrassemnt. Company emails were also responded to and that is documented in the support log.



11) The #1 paragraph on the Phase 1 order form states that the while the product information is yours the hosting for the product website has a yearly fee but again, that fee has NOT been charged as of today. Everyone one that purchases a product has to initial this agreement of understand. The "Terms of Conditions" he is referring to is for DISTRIBUTORSHIP ONLY and has NOTHING to do with the product purchase or the product website. Once again Jodi has mixed up his facts.



Bottom line: This is an incredible business opportunity - but it IS a real business. There are skills you must have or be willing to learn. You are responsible for your own business and for getting your own leads.



Anyone looking at this as a get rich overnight or not willing to work should pass. Anyone serious about changing their lifestyle and reaching their personal goals in life is welcome to get started and I would like to be the first to say WELCOME! This is the BEST business I've ever seen or been a part of.

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