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  • Report:  #429000

Complaint Review: Engine Solution = American Engine Instlallation

Engine Solution = American Engine Instlallation = John Hartnack American Engine Installation changed there name only, Same owner, same everything!! Irving Texas

  • Reported By:
    San Antonio Texas
  • Submitted:
    Fri, February 27, 2009
  • Updated:
    Mon, July 20, 2009
  • Engine Solution = American Engine Instlallation
    2206 Century Center Blvd.
    Irving, Texas
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    214-358-4681
  • Category:

American Engine Installation installed an engine in my vehicle in July 2008 although I seen the post here I decided to use them anyway because of the price. Yes they mislead me also with the warranty of 3 years or 50,000 miles well little did they say but it does not cover labor that's only 90 days. Well I went back to them in October 2008 with a warranty problem was told that AMERICAN ENGINE INSTALLATIONS was no longer in business, however the phone number and address is the same where I had my engine installed.

They told me that they which is now named ENGINE SOLUTIONS would help me but would have to charge me $1500 to in labor to repair the vehicle but would make good on the engine and even though they are not AMERICAN ENGINE INSTALLATION that the labor wouldn't have been covered any way.

I did some researching and am warning every one that AMERICAN ENGINE INSTALLATION is a rip off and are still in business under the name ENGINE SOLUTION still ripping people off. I read the report about the Colorado Attorney General suing them and the owner John Hartnack. I did research on ENGINE SOLUTION and found out it it was an LLC in Texas just like AMERICAN ENGINE INSTALLATION but you would never guess that John Hartnack is on the LLC after further research in the Engine Company that provided AMERICAN ENGINE INSTALLATION my motor which by the way ENGINE SOLUTION was going to get warranty Mr. John Hartnack is named on that company too which is located in Arkansas.

Did you also know that if you google AMERICAN ENGINE INSTALLATION it goes to the ENGINE SOLUTION web site (engineinstallation.com) all this is the same as AMERICAN ENGINE INSTALLATION and just read the warranty and so called Terms and Conditions are also the same as AMERICAN ENGINE INSTALLATION how can the ATTORNEY GENERAL in TEXAS allow companys like this to operate when are they going to get aboard and go after them (Both Companies) like Colorado did. I say Good for Colorado running the man out of the state!!
All phone numbers are the same, corp location in dallas the same, all other locations the same, phone number, addresses some even have the same people working at the so called ENGINE SOLUTION.

Please don't get ripped off by ENGINE SOLUTION they are a rip off just like AMERICAN ENGINE INSTALLATION just a name change Please be warned.

Terry
San Antonio, Texas
U.S.A.

5 Updates & Rebuttals


Anonymous

Irving,
Texas,
U.S.A.

THIS REBUTTAL BY THE COMPANY IS JUST ANOTHER FALSE STATEMENT BY THE OWNER

#6Author of original report

Mon, July 20, 2009

DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL IS NOT ON THE CONSUMER SIDE.

THEY STATE A SETTLEMENT WAS MADE AND THAT AMERICAN ENGINE INSTALLATION OR WHATEVER COMPANY NAME THEY ARE USING NOW IS RIGHT AND BOTH THE TEXAS AND COLORADO ATTORNEY GENERAL IS WRONG AND AMERICAN ENGINE IS RIGHT??

WHY BECAUSE THEY FILED BANKRUPTCY AND REOPENED UNDER ENGINE SOLUTION, FLITELINE ENGINE OR WHATEVER NAME THEY WANT TO USE MAKES THEM RIGHT AND EVERYONE ELSE WRONG.

JUST LOOK AS I A WRITING THIS - SOME ONE IS COMPLAINING BASICALLY ABOUT THE SAME THING FROM FLITELINE ENGINE IN ARKANSAS SO WHAT HAS CHANGED THEY ARE STILL RIPPING CONSUMERS OFF BUT DON'T HAVE TO PAY THEIR BILLS UNDER AMERICAN ENGINE INSTALLATIONS AND ALL BECAUSE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL??IS THAT WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO SELL US NOW.

CONSUMERS I STRESS BEWARE OF ANY COMPANY THAT JOHN HARTNACK IS INVOLVED IN. THROUGH RESEARCH I HAVE ALSO DISCOVERED THAT HE WAS INVOLVED IN QUESTIONABLE DEALINGS WITH A CAB COMPANY HE OWNED IN DALLAS PRIOR TO OPENING AMERICAN ENGINE INSTALLATION.

BOTTOM LINE DON'T BELIEVE THE REBUTTAL ENGINE SOLUTION POSTED.

AGAIN THEY ARE ACTUALLY STATING ITS EVERYONES FAULT BUT MINES AND WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO IT AGAIN BECAUSE WE ARE RIGHT AND THE ATTORNEY GENERALS AND CONSUMERS ARE WRONG THAT IS ALL I GOT OUT OF THIS REBUTTAL.

AGAIN IT STATES EVERY ONE ELSE IS WRONG WE/I AM RIGHT BUT I SETTLED JUST BECAUSE. WELL BOOHOOHOO FOR MR. HARTNACK.


Engine Soltuions

Irving,
Texas,
U.S.A.

Engine Solutions Response

#6REBUTTAL Owner of company

Fri, June 05, 2009

American Engine Installations (AEI) went out of business October 31, 2008 being unable to survive the economic downturn. AEI has always made its best efforts to provide quality products and services to its customers in a timely manner. Sometimes this was not possible due to supplier issues (AEI utilized over a dozen engine suppliers,) shipping issues, staffing problems, unpredictable workflow, parts availability, or unrealistic customer expectations. With all that said, AEI was not perfect and had its challenges. The engine replacement market is probably the most difficult to insure customer satisfaction within the automotive industry. With there being so many unknowns and variables most general repair shops avoid this line of work. Still, the vast majority of the company's clients were pleased and satisfied with the products and services provided by AEI.

Ripoffreport.com reports as of May 12th, 2009, of nineteen complaints, 3 are duplicates; leaving 16 complaints over a 6-year period, five of those were filed after the company went out of business; or to put it another way, less than three complaints per year. In truth, there were many additional complaints filed with various city BBB's, and with various State Attorney General offices; although, many of these represent the same complaint filed with both agencies.

In total, during the reporting period there may have been about 350 complaints of one kind or another. AEI operated about 45 shops, mostly franchises and about 15 owned by the company. It must also be remembered that not all customer complaints are reasonable, realistic or accurate and that it is not possible to satisfy every issue to everyone's liking. AEI sold or installed about 7,000 engines per year, and during the reporting period about 42,000 engines were sold or installed. Resulting in a complaint percentage of less than 1%; not an unreasonable percentage given the industry and scope of work. Reported complaints were addressed by the company, and a reasonable effort was made to resolve the issue at hand.

Both the Colorado and Texas Attorney General's offices have taken action against AEI. Both cases have been settled; AEI was not convicted of anything and admitted to no wrongdoing. AEI had been a member of the BBB for about ten years, and had always been in good standing (to be so, a company must be reasonable in addressing customer complaints and/or issues.) AEI was dropped by the BBB pending the Attorney General's actions, which were not resolved, before AEI terminated operations.

All AEI warranties have become void as a result of AEI's bankruptcy and closure. A proposal had been made to the Texas Attorney General for the continued support of AEI warranties for the balance of their outstanding terms. This proposal was denied by the Attorney General's office, leaving AEI customers with worthless warranty paperwork. As part of AEI's settlement with the Texas Attorney General, a penalty was paid to the state. These funds were to be made available to AEI customers presenting valid claims against the company. Should you have a claim, some restitution may be available to you through the Texas Attorney General's Dallas office.


Engine Soltuions

Irving,
Texas,
U.S.A.

Engine Solutions Response

#6REBUTTAL Owner of company

Mon, June 01, 2009

American Engine Installations (AEI) went out of business October 31, 2008 being unable to survive the economic downturn. AEI has always made its best efforts to provide quality products and services to its customers in a timely manner. Sometimes this was not possible due to supplier issues (AEI utilized over a dozen engine suppliers,) shipping issues, staffing problems, unpredictable workflow, parts availability, or unrealistic customer expectations. With all that said, AEI was not perfect and had its challenges. The engine replacement market is probably the most difficult to insure customer satisfaction within the automotive industry. With there being so many unknowns and variables most general repair shops avoid this line of work. Still, the vast majority of the company's clients were pleased and satisfied with the products and services provided by AEI.

Ripoffreport.com reports as of May 12th, 2009, of nineteen complaints, 3 are duplicates; leaving 16 complaints over a 6-year period, five of those were filed after the company went out of business; or to put it another way, less than three complaints per year. In truth, there were many additional complaints filed with various city BBB's, and with various State Attorney General offices; although, many of these represent the same complaint filed with both agencies.

In total, during the reporting period there may have been about 350 complaints of one kind or another. AEI operated about 45 shops, mostly franchises and about 15 owned by the company. It must also be remembered that not all customer complaints are reasonable, realistic or accurate and that it is not possible to satisfy every issue to everyone's liking. AEI sold or installed about 7,000 engines per year, and during the reporting period about 42,000 engines were sold or installed. Resulting in a complaint percentage of less than 1%; not an unreasonable percentage given the industry and scope of work. Reported complaints were addressed by the company, and a reasonable effort was made to resolve the issue at hand.

Both the Colorado and Texas Attorney General's offices have taken action against AEI. Both cases have been settled; AEI was not convicted of anything and admitted to no wrongdoing. AEI had been a member of the BBB for about ten years, and had always been in good standing (to be so, a company must be reasonable in addressing customer complaints and/or issues.) AEI was dropped by the BBB pending the Attorney General's actions, which were not resolved, before AEI terminated operations.

All AEI warranties have become void as a result of AEI's bankruptcy and closure. A proposal had been made to the Texas Attorney General for the continued support of AEI warranties for the balance of their outstanding terms. This proposal was denied by the Attorney General's office, leaving AEI customers with worthless warranty paperwork. As part of AEI's settlement with the Texas Attorney General, a penalty was paid to the state. These funds were to be made available to AEI customers presenting valid claims against the company. Should you have a claim, some restitution may be available to you through the Texas Attorney General's Dallas office.


Anonymous

Irving,
Texas,
U.S.A.

Engine Solutions is American Engine Installations Just another Name

#6Author of original report

Sat, February 28, 2009

Don't get ripped off they are going by Engine Solutions & Engine Solution please read the complaint and save your self from a rippoff.


Anonymous

Irving,
Texas,
U.S.A.

Engine Solution = American Engine Installations = John Hartnakc

#6Author of original report

Fri, February 27, 2009

Just correcting my spelling of the first report.

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