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  • Report:  #1436587

Complaint Review: Epic Impact

Epic Impact Michael Ambrosino Ben Schemper Zach Wagner Fraud Without Care or Concern of Participants Outcome San Francisco California

  • Reported By:
    Melissa — Minneapolis Minnesota United States
  • Submitted:
    Fri, March 30, 2018
  • Updated:
    Fri, May 11, 2018

First and foremost this is likely the only report I will ever write but I wanted to address this company publicly because of the way they do business. I spent $2,500 to go to Epic Impact in San Francisco after knowing Michael (Mike) Ambrosino for some time. That said I showed up on March 21st, 2018 and the e-mail stated it would start promptly at 9 am and we didn't start until 9:30. Mike greeted me and said he would be in and out. He was no where to be found that day.

1. Does not value time (their own or the clients) 

2. I have already generated millions in revenue and I was not only the only female there I was the only person that was older than 25. They prey on bottom feeders who are lost in the sales arena. Men between 21-25 who are willing to finance this on their CC. Based on what they knew I should have been automatically dis-qualified for participation. But they lied and acted as if there was highly qualified sales professionals with years of experience who were also attending. 

When lunch came that day we were required to walk to a resturant that was chosen by them. Normally this wouldn't be an issue however they did not ask what we wanted to eat, if there was any allergies or any desired diet in the group but more importantly they did not pay for the food rather we were required to pay. Again this is part of an experience so I like many of the attendees thought lunch would be picked up by Epic Impact not be an out of pocket expense. The fact that Ben had to leave and chose not to participate to "prepare" showed me that they put very little to no thought into connecting with their attendees.

3. Does not create an experience.

That night we were asked to go to the Banya's which is an incredible spot in San Francisco. Again no transportation was provided - you were simply on your own to make it there and back. If creating an experience was so important this detail wouldn't have been left out of the equation. 

Throughout my time there - there were many things that didn't add up. 

- Credibility: There is not one single review anywhere online with the exception of the ones given by their friends and family on a FB page rather they edify themselves throughout the day 

- Ben tells a story of how he put $120K on a CC and figured out how to pay for Tony Robbins later ... they also claim they have spent more than 1 Million on training if we do some basic math they haven't even earned a million in revenue. 

Lets just say they do one of these a month at $2,500 - and there are 8 people that is $240K in revenue per year. Now let's say they close 2 people per event into their 20K coaching program with a $3500 deposit (is it really worth having a staff of 5 work for 3 days for $7K NO!) IF and that's a BIG IF they were paid every payment on time at the end it would be $480K now add those together and that's not even $720K. 

So after day 1 I was completely pissed off that they were regurigitating Tony Robbins material as if it was their own. I know Tony's material forwards and backwards as I've been in business 10 years and in sales 23 years. It was obvious to them I wasn't impressed. The 7 other guys that were there were new sales people, people without experience who were willing to learn. The problem was once you disagreed with their philosophy you were "out of integrity" I can't even begin to explain the "cult like atmosphere" 

On day 2 when I chose not to show up ... I never asked for my money back rather I chose to walk away and think about the lessons here. I recieved 5 phone calls from Ben, Zach and Mike saying I was completely out of integrity and that I showed up 33%.

NO .... I showed up 100% with an open mind to learn when I showed up and participated ... and when I chose not to I didn't show up because I wasn't open minded, wasn't willing to learn and wasn't willing to participate any further. See they don't realize showing up is a choice and when you make an invesmtment like a 3 day event it is up to the participant not the host to figure out what is right for them. 

It is a very cult like atmosphere where if you tell them no they will frame, pre-frame and continusouly tell you how wrong you are and how right they are. If you don't do what they say or exactly what they want you are not aligned or out of integrity and they will tell you all the reasons why (the story they use to justify their credibility).

After leaving I was told that participants who went in debt to be there were asked to open 3 CC's and put $1,000 deposit on each while signing an agreement to coach with Epic Impact one on one. My thoughts on this is Epic Impact, Michael Ambrosino, Zach Wagner and Ben Schemper are just taking money to take money to build their lifestyle without actually providing value to the participants that is genuine, authentic AND more importantly based on REAL WORLD business results! Not some made up BS they have learned on YouTube videos. 

I am heavily, heavily invested in my own personal growth and I would never do business with Epic Impact nor would I recommend anyone do business with them for the aforementioned reasons. That said if you are looking for real world results from real business owners there are plenty of opportinities to learn without spending $2,500 and 3 days on a company that proclaims to get results they can't prove. 

That said it is unfortunate I have to write this review and the promise that they would follow up never happened ... it's been over a week they have had to respond to or ask me how I felt and they don't seem to care. Again their lack of integrity, lack of knowledge, education and care show just how uncredible this company is. 

3 Updates & Rebuttals


Alexander

Miami,
Florida,
United States

Send me the Receipts and I will Compare Them with Everyone Else

#4Consumer Comment

Fri, May 11, 2018

Send me all your receipts, and I will also communicate with everyone else who went there with us. Which was 24 people, not 8, and 10 people signed for crew not 2. That's besides the point. Anyways, send me your receipts and I will contact everyone that I know who is on Facebook and LinkedIn from the event and I will post each one of there responses to this as well to see if what you say is in line with them.

Better yet, upload your receipts here, as this would let me put my email address. Also, post pictures that you took (I'm sure you took pictures, especially if it was a bad experience). I know whenever I have a bad experience, that's the first thing I do.

Do you know how easy it is to fake a review (Good and Bad)? I promise you that many reviews you find online are fake. I created 10 email accounts, and makde them all seem active by reviewing several businesses in random places according to the location on my fake account. As long as you make the accoint look real, you can get away with a lot.

Everything you say where just sounds so far fetched because I was in the same event and there were 24 people there, and there was only 1 girl there, and it wasn't Melissa. They bought all of all lunch and dinner for each day, and catered dinner that last day. 10 people signed up for crew and no one left the event the first day and never returned.

I know that this website won't let me put my last name, my email or my phone number here for privacy reasons which they state in the terms and agreement of this website. But if anyone wants to know about how Epic Impact really is, comment on this article and we can figure out a way to get in touch with each other. 


Melissa

Minneapolis,
Minnesota,
United States

Really?

#4Author of original report

Wed, May 02, 2018

That's funny ... because I drove myself and two other passengers. Yes ... my name is Melissa. And everything in the aformentioned report is true. You have provided to facts to back up your "this is BS statement" as I have. If you do I would be happy to hear you out. I would also be happy to provide the reciepts I have for the meals purchased. 


Alexander

Miami,
Florida,
United States

This is Complete B*******

#4Consumer Comment

Wed, May 02, 2018

This person is complete b******! I was there, and this is completely wrong! There was only 1 woman there, and her name was not Melissa. I actually read articles in Ripoff Report prior to today. After reading this article, I now am going to have to question everything I read here. They pay for all the meals during the retreat. They provided the transportation to and from the beach and everywhere else. As I said, all this is complete b*******.

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