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Complaint Review: Ezbc Epinions

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  • Reported By:
    los angeles California
  • Submitted:
    Thu, February 19, 2004
  • Updated:
    Wed, June 09, 2004

Read on of the facts and details and judge for yourself, sounds like there is a mental case on the loose (or maybe just a frustrated, failure of an actor or model who wants the rest of us to fail?)! Or maybe someone even more sinister

So outrageous are the claims of this perpetrator that are listed in the modelingscams.com' website are the top three largest and most influential and reputable agencies in the world!: Karin, Ford Model Management, and Elite Model Management.

The modelingscams.com' website attempted to gain credibility by supposedly quoting unnamed "alleged victims" and if they are real quotes, they are using the same website (source) as the sole reference to the legitimacy of the company in question (not a biased approach to say the least)! Some of the quotes read like consumers who had buyers remorse while others simply use this website as the reason they concluded the company was a scam.'

Joe
los angeles, California
U.S.A.

4 Updates & Rebuttals


EZBC

Los Angeles,
California,
U.S.A.

Rebuttal to Jed Knudsen, owner, Association of Working Talent

#5REBUTTAL Owner of company

Tue, June 08, 2004

This post is in response to "Jed" from "Salt Lake City, Utah," who is
presumably Jed Knudsen, the owner of Association of Working Talent (AWT),
based in Utah.

Jed Knudsen was contacted privately, but he would not respond privately;
instead he chose to make unsubstantiated claims publicly. This is a public
response to his public response.

Jed Knudsen acknowledged that an effort was in fact made to contact him
about the Association of Working Talent, a company which travels all over
America, looking for money, sorry, models.

Here he said: "They did send my company an email asking "questions."
However, I do not want to respond to them and give them phrases they can take out of context to make us look bad."

Below are the questions which Mr. Knudsen was asked privately, the same questions which are asked of other modeling companies who charge upfront fees.

Knudsen/AWT was asked more than once, but he refused to answer the questions. He even admitted he refused to answer the questions.

Here are the exact emails he was sent, dates and content:

Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004
From: Easy Background Check
To:
Subject: AWT

1. How many people have paid AWT?

2. How many of them have got paying work through AWT?

3. How many of them who have got paying work through AWT earned more than
they
paid AWT?

Easy Background Check

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004
From: Easy Background Check
To:
Subject: AWT

1. How many people have paid AWT?

2. How many of them have got paying work through AWT?

3. How many of them who have got paying work through AWT earned more than
they paid AWT?

What's the difference between AWT and WSN (Wilhelmina Scouting Network)?

Easy Background Check

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These are very basic questions. Consumers have a right to know. They are the same type of questions the Federal Trade Commission asks when they investigate modeling companies (see the site article "FTC Legitimacy Test").

Jed Knudsen's stated reason for not answering the questions was: "I do not want to respond to them and give them phrases they can take out of context
to make us look bad."

Knudsen, you already look bad, because you have not provided the information on your website. If you want people to pay you, why didn't you already
provide the information? Why do you have to be asked?

By not answering these questions it only makes you look worse. How could you possibly be taken out of context?! Come on! You were only asked for three numbers. How do you think three numbers can be "taken out of context"?! Get real!

I didn't ask for words or phrases; I asked for numbers, so your entire point is lost. If there are no phrases, you can't be taken out of context.

By coming here and implying that answering the questions you were asked could result in you being taken out of context is disingenuous or
misleading. The fact is the answers to the questions cannot be taken out of context.

You were just looking for an excuse not to answer them because the numbers are so bad, right?

Furthermore, if you were so worried about being taken out of context (despite the fact in this case it's impossible), you could have posted your
answers on this board where you know they would not be edited or "taken out of context."

So if the real reason you didn't answer the questions privately by email is because you don't want to be taken out of context, and the reality is if you post your answers here you won't be taken out of context, why don't you answer the questions here and now on this web page?

Moreover, if you had not figured it out by now, which you should have already done, because you have a website, you can post the answers to the
questions on your website where they cannot be edited or "taken out of context."

In fact why don't you answer the questions here and put the data on your home page?

Your complaint about the use of the graphic from your site shows you don't understand freedom of speech laws. The site attempts to substantiate
arguments or claims as much as possible as well as report news.

Section 107 of the Copyright Act (Title 17, U.S. Code) contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be
considered "fair," such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.

That is exactly what EZBC offers: criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.

Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair:

1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

2. the nature of the copyrighted work;

3. amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and

4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the
copyrighted work.

EZBC.com has nonprofit educational purposes. The nature of the work (graphic) on your site is not copyrighted. It is a map of the United States.
You do not own the United States. You cannot claim to have a copyright on a map of the United States! The amount of the work is small. One graphic of a map which was coloured in. (Do you have a copyright on a coloured-in map of America? In gray?) Value of the work (which is not copyrighted)? How much is it worth to you?

More importantly than a map of America coloured in gray of places where the Association of Working Talent has been, how much is Association of Working Talent worth to America?

1. How many people have paid AWT?

2. How many of them have got paying work through AWT?

3. How many of them who have got paying work through AWT earned more than
they paid AWT?

Knudsen,

Are these answers good guesses?

1. 4,000
2. 250
3. 10

Show me the money!


Bob

Chicago,
Illinois,
U.S.A.

ezbc big scam modelingfraud scamming public ..Facts About The Modeling Industry

#5Consumer Comment

Thu, May 06, 2004

Modeling Facts

Facts About The Modeling Industry

This site was created to bring you the true facts about the modeling industry. Apparently a website by the name of www.EZBC.com , run by Robert Noll the owner of Monster Talent Management has been misleading many people. Robert Noll has been involved in dealing drugs and identity theft (see article below for more details)

We bring you this site to give you a little more information about the author of that website. His name is Robert Noll and he owns an agency by the name of Monster Talent Management. The company is also half owned by Ricardo J. Rivera.

Robert Noll is apparently trying to hurt other agencies by accusing them of charging up front fees while he himslef actually charges a lot more "upfront fees" than his competitors.

Private Investigators have found out that Robert Noll the owner of Monster Talent Management is the creator of www.ezbc.com. In fact he is an even bigger scam than his competitors because his company charges models up front fees.

His company Monster Model Management is also operating illegally:

Apparently the author is writing a book and plans on using all the e-mails that he has collected on www.ezbc.com as a way to sell his book.

The book entitled "Inside Becoming A Model" looks cheaply made and created. The author charges fees just like the poeple he is slandering.
He will appear in court for his illegal activities. This person is the same person who runs www.modelscams.org

This poorly written book by Robert Noll who runs Monster Model Management and created www.ezbc.com charged of drug distribution and known to be a person who has commited identity theft over the internet to hide himself from authorities and the modeling agencies he has attacked..


Jed

Salt Lake City,
Utah,
U.S.A.

How do you file against someone who is hiding?

#5Consumer Comment

Sun, April 11, 2004

Whoever left the post about the class action lawsuit, please leave some sort of contact info to respond to directly. I would be interested in participating. However, I don't want to give they jerk more opportunity to start writing ridiculous things about my company.

Whoever the ezbc.com is they obviously aren't afraid of writing anything they want. They did send my company an email asking "questions." However, I do not want to respond to them and give them phrases they can take out of context to make us look bad. Any advise?

They also stole graphics from my site and have posted it on their site, how do I approach that?


Sharon

Dallas,
Texas,
U.S.A.

class action lawsuit against ezbc

#5Consumer Suggestion

Tue, March 30, 2004

It's about time someone shut down this web site. If you would like to join please post here an you will be added to the lawsuit.
There is a story being put together that will be aired next month. Any information is needed.

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