I'm in a pay league where each team pays $50 and the winner gets $350. Two teams have been doing very questionable trades and could be working together. Fantrax doesn't step in or help and etc. These style leagues are perfect leagues for any commish who wants to cheat since fantrax won't step in. This one team named"dirty jerzy" claims he's only in these leagues for fun and I"m like why dont u do pay leagues then? He's also told me he's in like 9 pay leagues, and has spent around $600 in them. So u pay $600 for fun and not to care to win money back huh? lol right??
Even another team such as geneva questions things too. The commish has let everything go and tells me things such as he'll review the trades and then never does and doesn't get back to me on them! look at these trades and u tell me!:
Dirty jerzy gets these players in a trade(im using yahoo rankings since they are easier for me to access): aramis ramirez who at the time was on the 15 day dl-not a biggy and is ranked 59th, trevor cahill who is ranked 218, cano robinson who is ranked 4th!!!, bobby parnell who is a closer for atleast now for the mets who is ranked 215, alcides escobar who is ranked 172,
zack cozart ranked 258, howie kendrick ranked 179, brandon moss ranked 443,becket ranked 193, prado martin ranked 81
So the BEST ranking he is giving up is 81 and nobody is ANYWHERE near that ranking he's giving up but ONE and he's getting a guy ranked in the top 60's and a FOURTH RANKED guy?,,...WHAT/?/think it's a ripoff?
I asked that red fox team why he did that and he told me he knew he couldn't win with robinson cano...im like WHAT/????????....sound suspicious? yah u couldn't win with the best 2nd baseman in baseball?....not to mention..earlier in the year i tried to trade for aramis by giving him garret jones and he told me he didn't want jones cuz he only hits 270's....well this trade up top here he traded for cozart who htis 230's lol what??? suspicious?
Here's ANOTHER questionable trade between the two teams-
Dirty gets: jim johnson!, zack cozart back lol, and now dirt is trading away to red fox: vinnie pestano-who cares holds dont count in this league, aramis ramirez who is NOW LISTED AS MISSING EXTENDED time at this point,
so he's getting a topped ranked closer while the best he is giving up is a guy who is NOW LISTED AS MISSING extended time and not going to come off the 15 day dl?
I talk to Dirty jerzy about these trades and he throws this line of b/s at me: 4/22 5:25:25 PM Dirty Jerzy: Slappy, you do realize that you opinion is fact right??? The way you view a player may be different than the way I view that player.
I dont care how u view a players, a players ABILITY is how u win leagues...this dude and that other team seem to be working together if u ask me and just make up whatever bull to justify it.
They contradict themselves....the commish has done NOTHING except block me from chat.
Listen to this.......i write the commish in a chat dialogue box about how horrible the trade is and he tells me later on that he never got that and i needed to email him for him to see. Do you want to be in a league with a commish who pays that much attention?
Well later on...me and this dirty team and me get into it and some team requested i get blocked through the chat....he happened to see that and blocked me lol
This dirty team has made comments such as how im the type of person to order food then claim i got a hair in it to get my money back and all this time and junk this dirty team has talked on me-he's never blocked him, lol what?
This commish setup the league so there's no veto'ing of trades....wonder why huh?
It's still illegal for fraudjalent practices online regardless of the rules if there is cheating....This commish has told me that he'd look into things and he NEVER has on some instances.
Fantrax let's commishes like this run leagues? Are u kidding/???
Oh and if u get a bad commish, fantrax reiterates how u are basically screwed and hafta deal with everything through the commish.
3 Updates & Rebuttals
Sirslappy
kent,Ohio,
I said u ALLOW questionable trades-meaning u do NOTHING. Which u just said u do. U are not the CREATORS of the fantrax site? I get emails stating FANTRAX with updates
#4Author of original report
Fri, April 26, 2013
I will include in the attatched files, a picture of what u said. I never said you were the ones doing the dirty play, i was stating you dont step in and stop it. I said that it is your site, is this not your site? http://www7.fantrax.com/fantasy/home.go?leagueId=bfw7b4gwheou4sc2 I've made websites before and the www.7.fantrax.com is what links things to you. Notice the start of the site is fantrax. By saying it's your site, that means you are the creators, since when is a commish the creator of a website?
You said in your rebuttal that it's basically your website and you allow people (commishes) to use it to make money for themselves. There is a forum page on this website that goes directly to you guys and I'm going to post here in an attatched file what you guys say when I write you from the site you claim is souly owned by the commish. When you write that forum page you would get a response back from your own email stating fantrax and that it's customer support, why do you make it out like u will do something in these private leagues?
I'm also going to post a picture of the forum within the phenoms site that leads directly to you and the emails i've received from you. Why do you have such a form to contact you guys if you have absolutely nothing to do with the site? You are the creators of the site, yes correct? http://www7.fantrax.com/ isn't that the leagues you have created through that own url that is shown when i log into phenoms? You are the creators of the site.
I do apologize if I made it out like fantrax themselves gets money, no the commish does. I'm just stating.the orchestrators of the site(creators) have not shown they will help me out in the sites own forum itself that sends an email to you guys. I'll show you what is said in an attatched file here. So you basically reiterate how a commish can be whatever he wants to be and you won't step in because it's a private league setup through him. I'm just stating, your site-offers no protection from bad commishes and etc. Afterall-it is http://www7.fantrax.com/
Fantrax
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#4UPDATE Employee
Fri, April 26, 2013
We at Fantrax are host to thousands of private leagues, and also run our own public free and money leagues. The league you are referring to is not a Fantrax money league. It is a private league that you joined on your own, run by the Commissioner, who created the league, its rules, the payment structure, etc., and took your payment. You did not pay Fantrax, nor did you pay anybody through Fantrax in any way, thus we are not responsible for any money exchanged between users in your league - we are simply a commissioner league stat service. It is up to you to do your due diligence as to whose league you join and who you are giving money to. Also, we have not received any other complaint from your league or any of the other leagues that Commissioner runs. We do take all complaints seriously, however, and should there be more complaints regarding that Commissioner and any league he runs, we will reinvestigate.
Should you want to play in a money league run by Fantrax - we do not allow trades in any of our money leagues - and have extremely high payouts - they are called the Fantrax "Classic Draft" and "Salary Cap" leagues, for most of the sports on our site. The Salary Cap leagues are now closed, however we will be running in-season Classic Draft leagues for MLB starting next month.
Thanks,
Fantrax Admin
http://www.fantrax.com
Sirslappy
kent,Ohio,
here is a picture of a team talking about how legit things seem through fantrax that allows this/
#4Author of original report
Thu, April 25, 2013
This phenoms league im in seems to have either a lazy commish or a fraudjalent one. Here's some pics.