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Find That Money investment networking BIAN VARIANI (Owner) Lifetime Membership lasted two years Scammers want another $300.00 Internet
Find That Money. The only money "Find That Money" will locate is yours! And they'll take everything they can squeeze out of you. Once you apply for the "Free Listing" you'll start receiving emails telling you that investors are interested in your business or project,......but you'll have to "upgrade" to one of the paid packages. I opted for the Platinum package. I had been disabled at the time I signed up, for over ten years. Putting the $300 together was difficult.....but it was a LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP, or so they said. Once I paid the membership fee I started receiving several emails, almost daily, requesting more information. I thought this was incredible, until I discovered these emails were generated by "Find That Money", the companies I was contacting hadn't sent the emails and were not interested in investing. In fact many of these people I spoke to didn't even know who "Find That Money" was, their companies information had been taken off the internet and used as a database at "Find That Money". I've spoken to some really upset people who vowed to sue the owner of FTM, Bian Variani, a citizen of Canada. Bian Variani is nothing more than an egotistical con man and ripoff professional. I consider myself fortunate not to have lost more than $300......but nothing can replace the countless hours I've spent preparing documents for the vultures that use FTM to seek out information and ideas that they can use for their own financial gain. I do feel bad for the people who have listened to and trusted Bian Variani with their projects and businesses, many of whom have paid $20K for "consulting services", one copmany actually paid over $100K... for nothing! It's no wonder Bian Variani is under investigation by Canadian authorities for fraud and tax evasion. I would encourage anyone reading this to post their own experiences and complaints and join in a class action suit. Recently I received an email informing me that I had "new mail",....yes I still check out all mail. That is when I noticed my Lifetime membership had "expired". FTM may be the biggest farse on the internet, nothing good has ever come from any of the hundreds of inquiries we've had, but God willing something will. But as useless as FTM is, I'm still entitled to my Lifetime membership, it can not be legally cancelled. I've written emails and left phone messages concerning this at FTM. No responce. But in the last two days I've received 13 email notifications..........everyone is interested in funding my project...all I have to do is upgrade to the Platinum package (again), only $249.00
Nov 12, 2009 ~I would like to review your executive summary ONLY! Samuel Dec 16, 2009 ~This is a FINAL memo that your account has expired and will be 100% removed from our network if not renewed with 48 hours of this eMail. We appreciate your valued business.FTM Staff eMail: info@findthatmoney.com
Dec 17, 2009 May I ask you where are you at with your search for finance? I diligently tried to make contact with you and thus far failed to receive a response. As an alternative avenue it t is always good practice to get a few different quotes from separate investors or lenders. I would like to offer ours. Where may I forward our terms? I will respond immediately back today, Donald. P.S. please include 2 references.
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Feb 5, 2010 ~You have 6 NEW messages in your FindThatMoney.com Inbox. Click Here to sign in. Feb 5, 2010 ~Dear Gene Semple, We have a simple question for you. Do you have any collateral you can put up against a loan if we would do business together? If not, how will you protect our best interests as if it where your own? How can you guarantee the security of our investment? Feb 6, 2010 ~ My name is Antonio, I would like to discuss a few options available for your requested 1M funding. We fund, business acquisitions, equipment leasing, accounts receivable, cash advance, debt relief, startups, real estate purchases, construction and development and more! I am in the office all day today and am available. Take Care, Antonio Feb 6, 2010 ~ "College Business Student Wanting To Invest..." My name is Roy, I am looking to invest my money for a fair return. I\'m a student with 30K available to invest. I have invested my money already twice and flipped in for small marginal profits in real estate. What can you offer me for a return in profits? Feb 6, 2010 - 8:42PM ~ UPGRADE to PLATINUM for only $248.00 (a $47.00 discount) ..... Feb 6, 2010 - 8:52PM ~This is a WARNING that you are required to UPGRADE your account to a PAID subscription in-order to avoid expiration and loss of messages. Regards; FTM Admin Feb 6, 2010 - 9:06PM ~UPGRADE to PLATINUM for only $248.00 (a $47.00 discount) Feb 7, 2010 ~ "I\'m not sure if you are receiving my email or not"...I sent in a email to Admin, I\'m not sure if you are receiving my email or not. So I will give this another try. I am following up in regards to my previous message sent. In any case, have you already been funded? If you are working currently with another investor, what are the terms, perhaps there is room for collaboration? If you have secured investor interest I apologize for this email and I would appreciate a response so I may remove you from my list of interest. Wishing you a wonderful morning, - Cliff Cass - Feb 7, 2010 ~ UPGRADE to PLATINUM for only $248.00 (a $47.00 discount) Feb 7, 2010 ~ "Refrences".... In my previous email I never asked for you to include two references. Once more, I look forward in your response. Regards; Allen (private investor)
I've enclosed the above information to demonstrate the pattern that FTM uses to entice their free subscribers into purchasing a paid membership. An inside source has told me that these "requests" for additional information are created and sent out by FTM to increase sales, at the direction of Bian Variani. Once you've been "ripped off" you learn to scrutinize every character of every word. As an entrepreneur I know how exciting it can be when someone shows interest in your project or business. It's unfortunate that there are people out there that prey on people like me and possibly you. This is how they "earn" their living, stealing money from people who are struggling to start or improve a business. I know there are worthy projects out there waiting to be funded. Many of these people will lose their hopes and dreams after being victimized by companies like "Find That Money" and people like Bian Variani. Never give up. There are legitimate Entrepreneur / Investor internet companies, "Find That Money" is not one of them. Take a break, a deep breath of fresh air and then.... write a letter like this one about your experience with "Find That Money". Bian Variani needs to be put out of business...........and jailed. It won't be long until the authorities catch up with him. My next step is joining or establishing a class action suit againest "Find That Money" and Bian Variani. Please write a letter!
2 Updates & Rebuttals
Member-user
Calgary,Alberta,
Canada
Wrong Person
#3REBUTTAL Individual responds
Thu, November 18, 2010
Bian Variani does not own Find that Money.
It is owned by David Wong of Calgary Alberta.
Phone # 403-918-6160
sherrisherri
United States of AmericaTotal Fraud FTM
#3Consumer Comment
Sun, February 28, 2010
I too made the grave mistake of utilizing Find that money as a resource to fund my project. Little did I know that the company doesn't have real investors on it at all. Just to try it out last October I posted an add low and be hold I received 30 inquiries that same night. Given the current economic condition a great deal of start-ups are seeking alternative legal methods to fund their project. I want to the SBA at first but the executives which their sister company uses to advise new entrepreneurs are sooo out of touch and they will even tell you to not use the SBA. Which brings me to why I turned to the internet.
My box on hotmail.com has a folder devoted to my Find that money responses. Below I've listed a few listing of what my FTM in box looks like right now. Since I have never upgraded to the $49 a month payment to make my ad number 1, I don't get soo many responses anymore. I wonder why? Now its under a new management supposedly but its the same old trick. What happens when you contact one of these potential investors? You will either not get a response, and this is when you are simply responding to their email that they allegedly (fraudulently) sent to you. Or you will simply find yourself emailing back in forth until one of you cry uncle and give in. Also my favor are the firms that ask for an up front fee and they will see if they can help your firm in its funding needs, its soo rich. If you send them your executive summary only they don't even acknowledge that they have received it or anything.
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