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  • Report:  #137414

Complaint Review: First National Benefits

First National Benefits - First National Health Care RIPOFF government grants, health care, Charlotte North Carolina *EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back into your bank account!

  • Reported By:
    Salem Oregon
  • Submitted:
    Sun, April 03, 2005
  • Updated:
    Tue, April 05, 2005
  • First National Benefits
    Charlotte, North Carolina
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    800-410-1682
  • Category:

Hours ago I received a call from "Amber Williams" of First National Benefits. She told me that I qualified to receive a grant of up to $12,500 and that I would have to pay $29.95 for a processing fee, this was very unusual to me. However, I continued with the process but asked several questions along the way and all of her answers seemed legit until she insisted that I be recorded saying my name, address, account number, etc. I asked her why they were recording me, she said that it was for security reasons.

I asked her to elaborate and she wasn't able to explain to me how exactly it was that the recording kept me and my account safe. She did however insist that 90% of the people she talked to were leary of this. She then told me that if I wanted to I could call my bank once we were done and tell them about this, that I was only verifying $29.95 to be taken out, that I could go the their website, or that I could do a Google search of their company....as soon as she said that she said, "Oh, no, actually, don't do the search, just go to the website." That didn't register with me until I was half way through the recording process.

I did a google search and I got all these Ripoff reports about the SOB'S!! At that point, I told her stop the fu**ing recording, I don't want to do this cancel my sh**. At some point, she hung up on me, but then called me back and asked why I didn't want to do it. I told her it's a scam, at that point she hung up on me.

I then drove down to an ATM pulled as much money as possible out of my account and then I called my bank and but a freeze on my account. I'm lucky that I caught onto this as I was going through the process, too bad others haven't been as lucky.

Alycia
Salem, Oregon
U.S.A.

EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back!

HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO:

Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don't delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E.

According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days.

If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it's their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges.

Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you're at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent!

DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!

Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get.

And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state.

Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth.

If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form.

CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD

If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won't contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here.

Remember Don't let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action.

And good luck Let us know how you do!

ED Magedson Founder, Rip-off Report.com & Author of www.ripoffrevenge.com
EDitor@ripoffreport.com
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4 Updates & Rebuttals


Alycia

Salem,
Oregon,
U.S.A.

called my bank and told them what was going on and froze my account

#5Author of original report

Tue, April 05, 2005

Yesterday, following the phone call that I received from these people I acted promptly. I called my bank and told them what was going on and froze my account so that the initial fee of $29.95 could not be taken out. I then contacted my local police department and filed a report with them. At this time they are unable to follow up on the case because an actual crime has not been committed against me yet. I then got on the internet and filed a report with the FBI at www.ifccfbi.gov. This site is intended for internet fraud, but addresses other fraudulant activities as well. Tomorrow I will be contacting the North Carolina State Police and I will be informing them of this companies activities.

This morning I called First National Benefits on their "customer service" number and spoke to the woman that called me yesterday. I told her my name, that she had called me yesterday, and that I know this thing is a scam. I proceeded to tell her that I informed my bank of these transactions and that I am not authorizing them. If these transactions do go through I will take legal action. I also told her that I had informed my local authorities, her local authorities and that I had filed a report with the Fraudulant Claim Center with the FBI. I emphasized that if she touched my bank account she would be prosecuted. She replied with a quick, "Thank you for the info" and hung up.


Alycia

Salem,
Oregon,
U.S.A.

called my bank and told them what was going on and froze my account

#5Author of original report

Tue, April 05, 2005

Yesterday, following the phone call that I received from these people I acted promptly. I called my bank and told them what was going on and froze my account so that the initial fee of $29.95 could not be taken out. I then contacted my local police department and filed a report with them. At this time they are unable to follow up on the case because an actual crime has not been committed against me yet. I then got on the internet and filed a report with the FBI at www.ifccfbi.gov. This site is intended for internet fraud, but addresses other fraudulant activities as well. Tomorrow I will be contacting the North Carolina State Police and I will be informing them of this companies activities.

This morning I called First National Benefits on their "customer service" number and spoke to the woman that called me yesterday. I told her my name, that she had called me yesterday, and that I know this thing is a scam. I proceeded to tell her that I informed my bank of these transactions and that I am not authorizing them. If these transactions do go through I will take legal action. I also told her that I had informed my local authorities, her local authorities and that I had filed a report with the Fraudulant Claim Center with the FBI. I emphasized that if she touched my bank account she would be prosecuted. She replied with a quick, "Thank you for the info" and hung up.


Alycia

Salem,
Oregon,
U.S.A.

called my bank and told them what was going on and froze my account

#5Author of original report

Tue, April 05, 2005

Yesterday, following the phone call that I received from these people I acted promptly. I called my bank and told them what was going on and froze my account so that the initial fee of $29.95 could not be taken out. I then contacted my local police department and filed a report with them. At this time they are unable to follow up on the case because an actual crime has not been committed against me yet. I then got on the internet and filed a report with the FBI at www.ifccfbi.gov. This site is intended for internet fraud, but addresses other fraudulant activities as well. Tomorrow I will be contacting the North Carolina State Police and I will be informing them of this companies activities.

This morning I called First National Benefits on their "customer service" number and spoke to the woman that called me yesterday. I told her my name, that she had called me yesterday, and that I know this thing is a scam. I proceeded to tell her that I informed my bank of these transactions and that I am not authorizing them. If these transactions do go through I will take legal action. I also told her that I had informed my local authorities, her local authorities and that I had filed a report with the Fraudulant Claim Center with the FBI. I emphasized that if she touched my bank account she would be prosecuted. She replied with a quick, "Thank you for the info" and hung up.


Alycia

Salem,
Oregon,
U.S.A.

called my bank and told them what was going on and froze my account

#5Author of original report

Tue, April 05, 2005

Yesterday, following the phone call that I received from these people I acted promptly. I called my bank and told them what was going on and froze my account so that the initial fee of $29.95 could not be taken out. I then contacted my local police department and filed a report with them. At this time they are unable to follow up on the case because an actual crime has not been committed against me yet. I then got on the internet and filed a report with the FBI at www.ifccfbi.gov. This site is intended for internet fraud, but addresses other fraudulant activities as well. Tomorrow I will be contacting the North Carolina State Police and I will be informing them of this companies activities.

This morning I called First National Benefits on their "customer service" number and spoke to the woman that called me yesterday. I told her my name, that she had called me yesterday, and that I know this thing is a scam. I proceeded to tell her that I informed my bank of these transactions and that I am not authorizing them. If these transactions do go through I will take legal action. I also told her that I had informed my local authorities, her local authorities and that I had filed a report with the Fraudulant Claim Center with the FBI. I emphasized that if she touched my bank account she would be prosecuted. She replied with a quick, "Thank you for the info" and hung up.

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