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Complaint Review: G.G.C. - Meriam Marketing -Cydcor

G.G.C. - Meriam Marketing -Cydcor ripoff, fraud, dishonest, pyramid scam Denver Colorado

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    denver Colorado
  • Submitted:
    Mon, August 02, 2004
  • Updated:
    Mon, August 02, 2004
  • G.G.C. - Meriam Marketing -Cydcor
    501 S Cherry St Ste. 100
    Denver, Colorado
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    303-355-8111
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I started at this company with an open mind and excitment. After thirteen full days, I started to figure out everything and why there was such a high turnover rate (ex: 45-50 people a WEEK). At G.G.C./Meriam Marketing in denver, they try there best to make sure they get people to make the parent company "Cydcor" expand and grow. You might have heard of the job offerings there being described as a "management training program". Cydcor is a company that started out with two guys doing door to door business marketing, and decided to get fortune 500 companies to work with them (ie: At&T, BFI, First Horizon etc.) Here's what I'd like to tell you about them;

You are required to be there around 8:00am to around 9:30am in the office (without pay) and from around 6:30pm to about 7:30pm in the office again (without pay) regardless of where you live and where you are supposed to go work (ex: your "territory").

When you first start out you are told that its an entry level door to door marketing business. And to start I was told I'd be making between $400.00-500.00 a week. Soon after my first week, I made only $234.00. After I completed 63 hours in my first week, I continued on to nothing but hope in making more money. I thought it was fishy when I noticed a "positive" atmosphere that almost seemed fake.

They told me that within a year and a half to two years I'd own my own business and have an income of more than $100,000 a year. Sounds fabulous right? Whatever!!! I am currently 19 years old and there's no way that I could keep going to school full time (which they promised me I'd be able to do) and keep this job. Let me start off by showing the process they told me I'd have to go through to get my own office;

It all starts out being a distributor doing nothing but door to door business or residential sales. They call it "consulting".

Then they pressure you to move up to what they call leadership after only two weeks that you have been learning about marketing(even if you know NOTHING about it). You are supposed to make twice the commision, but still somehow manage to interview people for the first half of your day and train the rest of the day. Which doesn't make sense because you have to split half your money with the people you train. Well, you are training people almost 4 of 5 days of the week.

See the catch yet? Another plus that they add in is, you get to travel! Well the good ol' San Fransisco trip is supposedly paid for including ALL expenses. Well then they tell you after the trip that it will cost you $200.00. Then they tell you that it's ONLY $50.00 out of each check then it changes to ONLY $25.00 out of each check. One lie after another. I just got my third paycheck and there was $200.00 completely in full taken out of my paycheck! I never signed anything either...But anyway on to the "Management"

So now after almost six to eight months of being out in the blazing hot sun or freezing winter, you're expected wages should be around $1,000.00 salary a wk., twice the comission, and $100.00 for each hour you're in the office. YA RIGHT!!! (and you're only supposed to be an assistant manager for 3-4 months...)

AND NOW YOUR OWN BUSINESS! Being a manager you are supposed to get 40-60 interviews a DAY and basically sit on your rear all day but still making 80-100k a yr.

So that's the "gist" of there whole pyramid scam. They only hire young attractive people to work for them. Probably because the age group that they focus on have no clue about what they're up to. Please look up G.G.C./Meriam Marketing on monster dot com and you'll even see how much they change their job description!

They tell you at first that there's also this "rolling" %10 that comes out of your checks and then they told me that it's actually %20. To cover your rear end if you have any "pending" applications. I've never seen any of that money come back into the following pay check!

I might have forgotten some things, so please read the other articles that are on this site. It's all true. Going to the department of labor and having to claim back money is not something I was looking forward to! But I've lost to much to give up.

Please be careful out there, because I gave up a good job and now I am in debt.

Anne
denver, Colorado
U.S.A.

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Michael

Long Beach,
New York,
U.S.A.

The Real Truth

#2UPDATE EX-employee responds

Mon, August 02, 2004

I began working for Cydcor in September 2001 and believe it or not I remained with this organization for 15 months. I became an assistant manager and remained in that position for six months until an ex-girlfriend who worked within the company opened my eyes. I am not going to tell you about the Atmosphere in the morning and long hours. This you have already been fully inundated with by the hundreds of other complaints.
I will commend Cydcor and its affiliated companies for one thing. They really bring out the best in people with regards to helping fellow employees. Please do not misconstrew this with being honest and signing up applications which "help customers." They do not a majority of the time. Even when you are fairly sure you have finally found a potential customer you could help, more than likely they run into problems with the so called "seamless transitions of phone companies." When looking back I really wanted every induividual the do well. This before I realized that we were messing up our business customers.

The things I list below are all true. They are all legitimate complaints. Due to my level within the company where I was sent to the Bahamas for the owners weekends, flew top Toronto to try and get Bell Canada as a client for Cydcor and flew to L.A. for the future owners meetings, I know much about the individual owners and executives at Cydcor. I spent one on one time with Brad PArks, Avie Roth, Jim Majeski, John Wiggins, and Gary Polson ( he is really a nice guy.)

1) The owners and Cydcor know that the only way they can recruit is to promise that as an owner you will attain a six figure income. THis can be achieved in 6-8 months. THis is false. From Avie Roth's mouth in September of 2002 at the Atlantis hotel in the Bahamas he indicated to all that it should take at least four years to attain 80K a year for an owner. They need at least four solid outside deals. Now there are some owners who made a lot of money from a campaign without any outside deals such as Heather Herman. I just hope she did not lose most of it trying to work a territory that was completely saturated by her reps on the AT&T campaign. KNowing Cydcor they most likely moved her and put some new owner in that territory promising them a great territory. This until they arrived and found out the area was too beaten to make money and they went out of business.

Most owners, especially the newer owners are barely making an income. Notice their means of transportation and residence. They try to tell you that it is important to save so they have the money for the future. They are really broke! Possibly making less than some of the leaders.

2) Assistant managers do not get a salary. They make a small overide from their team which is kept by the owner (security) in order for the assistant manager to open an office. Each owner will calculate this differently. My owner paid me $6 per application in the beginning but cut it to $2 because I was making to much money. There were weeks toward the end that I made $200 for my so-called security. During my six months as asst manager I saved over $24K. That is a lot of money to save. They usually require you save $10K. I was told this was my money. My liveable income came from going into the field in the afternoons to make money. I was on AT&T, so instead of the $33 for a triple win back I received $48. During my stay as asst manager I overheard a conversation with my owner and John Wiggins. He chewed my owner out for spending $12K of my security for his purchase of a new home. I of course was not to hear this. Thanks John for looking out for me! Just Kidding, John was a p***k who was so self absorbed in his Porche and Hugo Boss suits. The problem is your security is really in the company's bank account not in a bank account with your name on it. Therefore the owner can do what he wants with it until his HUB reveals the excessive spending to your owner's superior. That was how John found out. Needless to say I stayed until all the money was put back in the account. THis took two months. When I declared I was leaving I was given none of my security, which was always confirmed to be my money. I was out $24k and all that time in which even as an asst manager I made about 10K because my owner made me do every interview and all paper work everyday. I spent very little time in the field.

3) There are a few managers who make money but not all will. Managers like Barb Schwartz, Matt Osborne, and especially Brandy Rucks. They have been there long enough that they will always get the biggest piece of the pie. OR should I say the best campaigns in the largest territories. Cydcor knows that they need to constanly recruit, not to open new offices, but to fill the void in territories and campaigns that were previously worked but the owner went out of business. Do not be fooled by them when they tell you that they recruit because of all these new campaigns and territories opening. Cydcor goes through owners much like you see distributors go through your office. THey quickly fill the void and hope this owner works out. THis is where much of the owners money goes. The money they give you in your security as asst. manager is their money since they are sole proprietors. When you open an office and fail they are out $10K at least. Cydcor does not incur any of these costs.

I could really go on and on about the dishonesty among some of the individuals who represent Cydcor but I think I have spoken enough. In closing, I think there is a lot to learn from working at Cydcor. You will certainly learn how to work hard, learn the real fundamentals of sales, and budget your money. Most of all you will learn a lot about yourself and what you desire to achieve and be in life. You may not make any money and chances are you will put a lot of mileage on your vehicle, but I guarantee you will walk away meeting a lot of people. Working for Cydcor, although embarassing (JUICE) and financially exhausting, I met some of my best friend there. Through all the tears and sweat there was a lot of laughter.

P.S. I did not write this because I am bitter or I have all this time to complain about my past. I wanted to inform people of what they will be getting themselves into. As for Jason from San Francisco. I have met you Winkler and I am embarassed that you try so hard to validate your company. If it was so credible you should not have to say anything at all. Your employees would never have to flock to a site like this if they were all getting what they were promised.

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