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  • Report:  #761769

Complaint Review: Gem Shopping Network

Gem Shopping Network Frank Circelli I spent 1/2 mil to start my own business. Their apprasials were bogus. My house is in foreclosure duluth, Georgia

  • Reported By:
    AK — white bear lake Minnesota United States of America
  • Submitted:
    Sat, August 06, 2011
  • Updated:
    Fri, July 06, 2012
  • Gem Shopping Network
    3259 Duluth highway120
    duluth, Georgia
    United States of America
  • Phone:
    770-814-0773
  • Category:

I  bought a few pieces of jewelry and liked them. I was selling my retirement stocks to live on and I asked Kenny...head of customer service if I could make a living selling things from the show. He said one man was doing just that. I formed an L.L.C. and started liquidating more stock to buy merchandise. I talked with all show "stars" at one time or another and made sure they all knew that I was not some rich lady having fun.

I figured with the appraisals they were sending me that I could easily make a profit and still give people a good deal. After I took my things to my first trade show in Phoenix, I was told by several dealers that my good deals were often over retail. The appraisals I had were vastly inflated. 

The show said that all appraisals were done out of house. What they did not say was that the out of house appraiser was also a Gem Shopping Manager. Can you say conflict of interest?

I have since had international and local appraisals done on many of my things and it will be years before they are ever worth what I paid for them. Kenny, head of customer service kept saying that I had one of the finest collections in the U.S. I was always reminding them that I was a business...not a collector. Frank frequently gave me extended credit and sold me things from his "private stock".

Needless to say, I started this venture as a way of making money to save my house. It is going into foreclosure on August 14th. If I had just taken the $500,000 and paid down the mortgage I would still live there.

I refer to my collection of stones as magic beans because it will take some magic to make them worth what I paid.

One other thing. I asked repeatedly how I could find out info on stones to see what I should charge for them. GNS alway said they didn't have any advice for me. I asked one of my appraisers last July and was told to subscribe to something called THE GEM GUIDE. I have been getting it for over a year now....the same time I realized I was toast....and their highest price guidlines do not reach what I paid for stones of less that perfect quality.

I just had my East African garnet collection looked at by someone the GiA recommened and she wouldn't even do the appraisals because I paid way too much for the stones and she felt it was unfair to waste my time and money.

Its too bad. I think when Frank first started this business he was probably honest. Now he and the show talent know full well what they are doing is wrong.





5 Updates & Rebuttals


IamGood

Fort Worth,
Texas,
USA

Some ArmChair Quarterback Advice

#6General Comment

Fri, July 06, 2012

It's too late now, you got screwed, and you are stuck with jewels that are not worth any thing near what you paid for them. 

I would do 2 things.

1.  Sell the Jewels for what they are truly worth, you will lose lots of money, but then write it off your taxes.

2.  Next time you see a TV Info Mercial, run, dont walk to the tv changer and change the channel to the cooking channel, or the evening news, or the TV Late Movie.

3.  If you really insisted on buying, and selling these "precious" gems, then you should have bought 1 gem , and had it appraised,then you would know what they were really worth.  Instead you wasted 1/2 million, and about to lose your home on the advise of a "Salesperson" from this operation.       W O W!!!!


Jarch

scottsdale,
Arizona,
United States of America

A new business is always a gamble.

#6Consumer Comment

Fri, July 06, 2012

Anyone who starts a new business must be responsible for doing their due diligence, especially; 1.)  if they are contemplating investing a large sum of money, and 2.) if they are investing in something that is very knowledge oriented where advanced degrees are offered.
 
I have personally started businesses from scratch and also purchased several existing business. 
They were fairly mundane service businesses and I still involved my accountant and attorney in the decision making process.  The process took anywhere from 3 - 6 months to come to a rational decision.

I'm sorry that you have lost most or all of your savings, but some or most of the responsibility lies with you.  I can think of 100's of questions to ask before doing what you did.  A $30.00 lunch with a appraiser or jewler would have gone a long way to answer some of those questions.  Once a year in Tucson and Las Vegas are two of the larger Gem shows in the country.  The cost of a week to each would have really outweighed your total investment a thousand fold.  Spending time at your local jewlers would also go a long way to help in determining value. 

After watching Gem Shopping and other TV gem shows I decided to get into cutting gems.  I am past retirement myself, and 30 days worth of research indicated that it will be a long road before I can do it for profit.  But in reality, that is not my primary reason for cutting.    I get great pleasure turning a purple rock into a beautiful stone, and the look on a friends face when they receive it for a present is priceless.  It took hours of instruction from a master cutter, hours of reading anything I could get my hands on concerning the subject, and many mistakes using inexpensive rough to get were I am in the process.  I have set a budget for rough and use the Gem Guide to make informed decision on what rough to buy. A publication that you subscribed too very late in the game.

 In my mind, what you did was take a big gamble, not make a informed investment decision.  Blaming the seller for your lack of experience and your failure in the business is not really fair.  If it was as easy as you thought, everyone would be doing it.  Caviat Emptor as the saying goes.

If being a car dealer was as simple as buying cars from a manfacturer and reselling them on a lot, then many more people would do that.  Or if you open a second hand store and then go to storage auctions to get inventory, without researching it thoroughly, would be a disaster.  But people do it all the time because of the TV shows.  Who do they blame, the auction company, the storage places, or the people who stored nothing of value in their units.

It is not right to blame Gem Shopping because you jumped into the pool before you knew how to swim.

Gem shopping does provide good products at fair prices.  You have to know what your buying.  I have purchased from them in the past.  Informal Appraisals indicated that the prices paid were in the ballpark.   I could not resell them for a profit the next day, but they were bought for others enjoyment.  Someday, in the future, they will be worth more than what I paid for them and our kids and grandkids can sell them at a profit.


1 Wise Wolf

Warrior,
Alabama,
United States of America

I Feel So Badly for You

#6Consumer Comment

Sun, October 16, 2011

I truly understand how you can be and are soooo upset - and I DO believe that you're own purchase decisions would be MUCH BETTER than any 'help' you received from "Kenny" (this is the "Kenny" in "Customer Service"?).  You sound intelligent and I hate that you got 'bogus advice'.  Is "Kenny even still there?  The times I spoke with a "Kenny", in "Customer Service", I thought he was incredibly arrogant and he was NEVER of any 'Service' to me.  

Hopefully, you'll be able to sell Enough of the items you purchased to keep your home - even if you have to take the loss on some of them?

I certainly don't condone the "advice" you got - they had No Business giving you ANY advice on re-selling their merchandise!  I pray that things get better for you.

Best,

1 Wise (Sometimes) Wolf


AK

white bear lake,
Minnesota,
United States of America

to the consumer who was kind enough to comment

#6Author of original report

Wed, September 21, 2011

I appreciate what you said but there is more to the story. I asked if I could get things from GSN for the purpose of reselling. I was told deffinitely! Kenny suggested things I should get as did the show talent. Kenny would go down to the studio and the host would show me things. Kenny would bargain with them. I was assured through the whole process that I was getting excellent value. Once Kenny called me at home to tell me of a great deal they were having and that we could steal this stone away from a jeweler that was there to purchase. It was a red tanzanian spinel. It had a 135,000 appraisal and i got it for 70,000. I had it reappraised by an international appraiser a few months later and it appraised for 40,000. Things like this happened repeatedly. I bought about 25 color change garnets because they said there were no more as they had all been mined out. In Tucson I found a dealer with lots of rough and later at another show I saw it cut. Beautiful!

The things I bought on my own I seem to have done very well on. The things that I was encouraged to buy were ripoffs.


1 Wise Wolf

Warrior,
Alabama,
United States of America

I Am So Sorry For Your Financial Loss

#6Consumer Comment

Sat, September 17, 2011

I am truly sorry for you financial loss!

I've purchase a lot of gemstones and jewelry from "GSN" and I'm a bit surprised that you would expect a Television Sales Network to act as your "wholesaler".  Your story should certainly be a lesson for others - buy from television networks and stores because you like what you're buying and you want to keep it - at least for quite a while; Don't expect that they are able/willing to "wholesale" items and/or that you can turn them around for a profit.

I do fell very badly for you and I'm sorry for your losses.  I do, however, want to say that I'm certain that when I've purchased something from GSN, that I've gotten the item that was shown.  GSN was happy to get the price that I paid and I was happy with the "deal" that I'd made.  In my humble opinion, that's the only way to buy.  Know that "buyer beware" is the first rule of purchasing anything.

The only way to get into any "business" is to do a lot of research, FIRST, become the best expert that you can, and be very careful and diligent in keeping up with the industry and your dealers/contacts/purchasers.

I truly hope that your situation will be resolved to your benefit and that you will keep your home.

Best,

"1 Wise Wolf"

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