Complaint Review: George Miller Probate Uncovered Inc

I heard George Miller speak at another real estate seminar that I was attending.  He is an excellent speakerhe is very compelling and knows how to sell/close a room.  What he doesnt do, however, is deliver what he promises!  He presented the opportunity for finding killer real estate deals through probate as THE answer for real estate investors.  He attracts students to his training with his assertions that there are tons of opportunities for buying real estate through probate for literally 20-30 cents on the dollar.

At George Millers $4,995 Probate Uncovered Gold Boot Camp, however, George tells you that to be successful, you have to set up a Probate Liquidation business (buying real estate and other assets from probated cases) that is entirely separate from any existing real estate investing business that you may already have, because now you are no longer a real estate investor, but a probate liquidation service provider.

His constant pitch during that Gold Boot Camp, however, is that while the money-making opportunities with the Real Estate portion of Probate is amazing, that to make the real money, to increase profits by up to 300-400% or more on the exact same probate case files, youre told that you need to attend Georges $7995 Platinum Boot Camp.  At the Platinum Boot Camp, George dazzles you with stories about how you can earn million % returns on your investment, and more.  In fact, on some of his examples, which he creates out of thin air, the returns were in excess of a BILLION %!

Youre told that in addition to your probate asset-buying business that you will now also need to set up separate debt buying and heir position buying businesses if you are to implement the strategies that George teaches.  His allegations are that if you now purchase the deceased persons credit card debt for 1-5 cents on the dollar (or less) that your returns are going to be astronomical.  In fact, George asserts that when you know what is going on with a probate case, and you buy the real estate, the debt, and the heirs positions, that your return on investment is beyond calculation or even infinite! 

Then George warns you about the attention to detail and precise timing that will be required to actually pull off these MILLIONS to BILLIONS % returns But then he tells you not to worry, that in his $9995 Diamond Boot Camp, he will teach you how to hire and train the people who will work for you and run your business completely, with you as only the responsible owner. 

George tells you not to worry about getting the money to buy all these deals because as a student, you get the opportunity to joint venture with George. And especially as a Diamond student, you get special consideration when it comes to the student deals which George chooses to joint venture on.  George tells you that he has millions of dollars to put to work in joint ventures and if you need the money for a deal, go to George.

After I spent all this money (and more), as one of Georges prized Diamond students I got the chance to visit his Pinellas County, Florida office in June 2008 and what I DID NOT see there was shockingit was obvious that George Miller of Probate Uncovered, Inc did NOT, nor had he ever, had a Probate Liquidation business set up and running as he teaches his students to do.  George Miller taught me how to build a business that he had never built for himself, or for anyone else.  It all appeared to be a theory.  No wonder the returns were off the chartsthey werent based on any real, completed dealsthey were theoretical and made up!  I paid George Miller a LOT of money and he taught me how to build a business that had no track recorda business that had NO proof of profitability or even of feasibility. 

All the time that he is teaching at his boot camps, George keeps saying how hes missing out on all the money of doing probate deals because hes teaching us how to become successful probate liquidators instead.  He constantly states that the reason he is teaching is so that he can find joint venture partners who would bring him more and more deals that would propel him to his goal making $100,000 per hour.  Otherwise, George says that he wouldnt be teachingthat his time would be better spent just doing the deals himself.

However, I now realize that is completely contrary to what should happen if George had a Probate Liquidation business set up as he teaches.   He shouldnt ever be missing out on all the money from doing probate deals while hes teaching us instead, because his office should be doing all the work and running his probate business for him.  So the very method he teaches and charges a fortune for, namely to free yourself while your business constantly chugs out cash, was not being done by George!  In fact the only businesses in operation that I did observe while at George Millers office were his Probate Uncovered seminar/information business, and his new seminar business, Wealth Masters Live.

I challenge George Miller to prove that a complete Probate Liquidation business, just as he teaches, is even possible and produce any student who has built this business and runs it just as he instructs.

And if this werent bad enough, I had to post this report on RipOffReport.com is to clear up the deception and outright lies that George Miller told the attendees of his September 2008 Platinum Boot Camp in Las Vegas; and to save other people the trouble of spending their time and money on George Miller.

On September 12, 2008, at that Platinum Boot Camp, the attendees participated in the live Probate Court field trip.  We heard a particular case that involved 10 properties, 8 of which were underwater, and 2 which were free and clear.  I happened to be the one who talked with the attorney on that case.  I did as George instructed and got the attorney to agree to speak with me about the case on the following Monday

Afterwards, when I told George about my tentative appointment with the attorney, he announced to the class, and to the cameras recording the boot camp, how happy he was for me, because I had just made $600,000.  I asked George if he would joint venture with me, and in front of the class and cameras, George said that he would.  

Let me be clear: George pulled that $600,000 figure out of thin air.  And even when I told him that the 2 free and clear properties were condos, and that they were worth at most $120,000 each, George kept repeating to the other students, and to the camera, that I had just made $600,000. 

I followed up with the attorney, who put me in touch with the personal representative (PR) on the case.  I said exactly what George told me to say, to no avail.  I made repeated contact with the attorney and the PR on this case and followed-up and followed-up, but in the end, there was no deal to be made.  When I informed George of the PRs decision that any real estate deal would not include the two free and clear condos, he told me that he wouldnt be interested in this one as there is too much work and not enough moneyso much for his pledge, said in front of other students and on camera, that he would joint venture with me. 

The worst part about this was having to repeatedly tell people who were at that Probate Uncovered Platinum Boot Camp who contacted me later, wanting to know how I had made that $600,000 that George had said that I had made, that not only had I not made any money at all from that particular case, but that there had never been $600,000 to have been made from that case, and that in fact George had just made up that figure.

I have yet to hear of a single George Miller student who has successfully built a separate, complete Probate Liquidation business using what George taught them.  In fact, the Probate Uncovered students that Ive talked to who have tried to build a Probate Liquidation business as taught by George Miller, including myself, have only lost A LOT of money and A LOT of time.