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Complaint Review: Harry H. Miller Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram Surprise

Harry H. Miller Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram Surprise Bad repair service Surprise Arizona

  • Reported By:
    Douglas — Surprise Arizona United States
  • Submitted:
    Tue, May 22, 2018
  • Updated:
    Thu, June 07, 2018

About the 2nd week of May 2018 I took my 2012  JKU Wrangler to be serviced at Larry H. Miller Jeep Chrysler for an engine code P304. Cylinder #4 misfire and the cylinder head had to be replaced; all work was covered under warranty. Whenever I have work done to my vehicles I always inspect the work that was done. I am not a certified mechanic however I have been building cars since I was 13; I have above average mechanical understanding and experience. Before dropping my jeep for service I used my vacuum gauge to test how many inches of vacuum my engine was at. Before leaving my house I measured 18" of manifold vacuum @ 800rpm, that is a pretty good reading for an engine with a 100,000+ miles. I had recently replaced all spark plugs and fuel injectors to eliminate the possibility of misfire.

After the work was complete I was at LHM Jeep dealer parking lot picking up my jeep and before leaving I measured the manifold vacuum and my engine, after being serviced by LHM Chrysler Jeep, was at 14" of manifold vacuum. While the engine was idling I could hear a hissing because of a poor intake manifold seal; when I got home I checked the torque of the lower and upper intake manifold they were both very loose, some fasteners were hand loose. I torqued the upper intake M6 bolts are torqued to 89 inch pounds and the lower M6 bolts 106 inch pounds; using my calibrated inch pound torque wrench that has been recently calibrated…………..why? because I like doing s*** right the first time. Since the work has been done to my cylinder head by LHM Jeep my MPG has dropped 18mpg to 14.8mpg.

The other mechanical area was the front suspension when I asked LHM Chrysler Jeep for a front alignment. I was told that my ball joints needed to be replaced and this past weekend May 19, 2018 I replaced the driver side upper ball joint because that was the only ball joint that needed replacement. When torqueing my front suspension I noticed that most of the ball joints I had LHM replaced were NOT torqued to specs; again attention to detail is a problem with LHM Chrysler Jeep service department.

Then when I spoke to the service manager Seth he stated, “I stand by my mechanics”……….even though I proved there was a problem on their part. That is management who does not think proactively and has tunnel vision; speaking from my 20+ years of management experience both in the U.S. and overseas, Seth is an ineffective leader. In a case like mine, punishment would NOT be effective. The effective approach would have the mechanic go through the process again; either hand write the exact processes as per the service manual or have the individual do a walk through, talk through method for other mechanics to observe and learn from. It was the lack of attention to detail for this mechanic that gave the appearance of incompetence. I have actually made this same mistake myself and I developed processes or checks for myself that prevent mistakes like this.

2 Updates & Rebuttals


Douglas

Surprise,
Arizona,
United States

Further Damage from Larry H. Miller Surprise Jeep

#3Author of original report

Thu, June 07, 2018

Once I got the intake manifold off to check the mating surfaces is when I checked the cylinder head that had been replaced sparkplugs. They replaced my NGK iridium sparkplugs, that I had just replaced 2,000 miles prior to bringing in my jeep, with factory plugs that are prone to misfires. This evening I was changing my oil and when I opened my oil filter housing the entire center piece that is spring loaded came out. Not the upper piece but the entire center peice that is spring loaded at the bottom came out. What a horrible service and experience, every time I have ever taken my Jeep into the Jeep dealer there is always an issue. The actual jeep itself is awesome, Larry H. Miller Surprise Jeep service Manager, Seth, is a joke and a rookie manager, their servicing ability is horrible at best.


Perry Mason

United States

Why Not Just Use COMMON SENSE?

#3Consumer Comment

Wed, May 23, 2018

 I will never understand this feeble mentality which causes you people to throw COMMON SENSE out the window all for some dumb, stupid car. It must have something to do with how far your tongue is hanging out because you "just need to have THAT car"! Sending off your money to somebody you don't know to buy some stupid car you've NEVER seen, checked out or even know if it even exists is at the height of pure stupidity.

Don't use the excuse of how you like to "trust" people. Trust is one thing, being stupid is another. If you want to avoid problems like you put yourself into, don't do something as foolish as sending off any money to buy some dumb used car you've never seen! Even a child can understand THAT!!!

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