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Complaint Review: Heald Business College In Sacramento California

Heald Business College In sacramento California ripoff San Francisco California

  • Reported By:
    Colorado springs co
  • Submitted:
    Wed, November 06, 2002
  • Updated:
    Mon, July 27, 2009
  • Heald Business College In Sacramento California
    350 Mission Street
    San Francisco, California
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    719-415-808-3000
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I will make this as short as possible. I need assistance on this. In 1989 when living in California,
I was told by Heald Business college that they could help me get educated with a certificate in Accounting. I was 18, a ninth grade education, had a 4 year old son and on AFDC.

I started the school attended a month in ahalf and decided to talk to the dean and let him know I was not learning, I had 2 Incomplete and a D. He suggested that since I was financially responsible for the first semester to try again in the second. Desperate to learn, I did for two weeks. I decided to leave and had a Non Completion and 2 F's,

I tried to fight the school and the dept. of education, because I felt as though I should have not been charged at all. Whether write or wrong, I did not know how to fight the school nor the Dept. of Education. I went back to High school and graduated in 1991 from an alternative school.

Throughout the years I tried to explain my situation to the Dept. of Education, and felt as though I did not owe 5000.00

for 1 semester. I owed maybe 1650.00, yet I was being charged a lot more then that by the dept. of education. I requested my records in 1996. I looked it over and tried once again to dispute the full charges, which at that time were like 8000.00 because I defaulted really believing that I did not owe the money.

Recently I looked in the records that were sent to me from Heald Business College few years ago, In it was 10 other students person social security numbers, their drop out dates, and how much their loans were for with a signed letter from Rhonda Shaw an employee at the school.

The students never gave permission like stated in the policy and procedure Manuel listed online Copy below

STUDENT RECORDS AND PRIVACY RIGHTS
The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974 (FERPA), 20 USC 1232g, protects the student from having his/her records released to persons or institutions without the student's written consent and allows the student to review his/her own official education records to make sure that no misleading, inaccurate, or otherwise inappropriate information has been included in his/her file. FERPA does not require the student's written consent for the release of "directory information," which includes (1) name, (2) address, (3) major field of study, (4) dates of attendance, (5) degrees and honors received, (6) name of the most recent educational institution attended, and (7) other information defined as "directory information" by FERPA. A student has the right to refuse release of "directory information." The refusal must be presented in writing to the director of academic affairs within 10 days of the beginning of the student's first quarter of classes. A student may review his/her records with the director of academic affairs or designee upon request. A student has the right to ask for amendments to records that he/she feels are inaccurate or misleading. A complete copy of the Heald student records policy under FERPA is distributed annually to students and may be obtained by contacting the director of academic affairs.


Here are the names:
Joan Bender
Adela Nabong
Tania Codero
Angela dubord
Heidi Todd
Todd Declouette
Teresa Magee
Jenny Fogal
Angela Orozco
Marie paulin

I found that someone from The school filled in that I graduated fromAroe Have high in 1989 and i did not graduted from McClellan in 1991.

The GPA on the financial aid plan says my GPA is 0.

I have two different drop out dates in the records.
There are copies of covered checks not showing the amounts nor the check numbers.

Checks that were supposed to be returned that from my understanding were never.

I spoke with the Dept. of Education about three weeks ago letting them know what was happening and all the incorrect things in my file,

The rep at the Dept. of Education said that Dept. of Education sent a large check for 4000.00 in Feb of 1990 and it was not returned. Long after I left.

that other checks were not returned either
The representative said that he had me leaving the school 6/89.

I have a date from from Rhonda Shaw on in a signed letter from Heald College, of 11/07/89 and in my file that i have show s 10/30/89.The Rep asked that I send all my paperwork in because he was certain something was not right with all that I have found. I sent it to him at Dept. Of Education, Rod Paige, Secretary of Education, and Heald Business College ( not the full file, I was afraid they would try to hide something)., I was not getting any responses from Heald nor Mr. Paige

I started calling Heald Business College and asking questions, I wrote 3 letters requesting my information to Denise Pham asking why there are so many discrepancies. She said she could help, she just called me and tried to make excuses.

Saying she herself ripped up certain papers in the files after 5 years. One being my admission paperwork the other being my entrance exam. She was lying she's been there 3 months. I have called everyday since requesting my file from 10 different people, and no response.

Until a few days ago, I received a letter from DR Virgen from Heald Business College on Oct 17th, It said that they did not have to keep my admissions test nor did they have to keep the entrance test. They ripped it up after 5 years. He says that there is one piece of paperwork that say I received a 54 out 80 points and that to him is proof that I took a test, yet he does not have proof of that test.

DR Virgen cannot provide that paperwork, when I requested it. and it is not in my copies of the file either.
Which the Dept. Of Education needs for me to be able to receive the ability to benefit.

I Never Took an exam!!!!!!!

Heald Business College Knows that Dept. of Education requires that any individual who attends heald business college must have a test to get in, You cant get anywhere with the Dept. Of Eductions, ability to benefit, without it, if a former student is applying for an ability to benefit, which will help get your money back if you feel honestly that you could not benefit from the school.

The Dept. of education in a signed letter saying that The Federal Family Education Loan Program Or Federal Direct Program, schools are required to certify that the student borrowers who do not have a high school diploma must be able to benefit by one of the following

A high school diploma at time of enrollment, ( Did not have)

a ged by the completion date (Did not have)
an achieved passing grade on the ATB test (Did not have)

Nor successfully completed the schools program and did not exceed one year (Did Not do)

Oct 15th I started to get a call from Hayward Howell a rep from Heald, asking that I call him back, snd that he will take care of me on this situation so it does not get messy. I think something is going on.

He said he may be able to get my money, when I said I want to be compensated for all the stuff I been through he said he "you would not be able to get anything for that, and he knows that i dont want to go to court " Then he said that he used to work for the Dept of Education so that he could talk to them, and that he did not know any of the names that i was mentioning when i said "i spoke with" Im not sure what he meant by that, but it sounded threatening he mad it sound as if he could pull strings at the Dep of Education.

They cant seem to provide me with, when the policy changed that you could attend the college only if you have a high school diploma like it states on the website!
They cannot provide me with an answer to why they sent me others social security numbers.

I have tried getting my records from heald once again, because I wanted to see what they had and now they wont release them to me at all.

I have requested in certified writing, I have called i have written the Secretary of education, Rod Paige.

I may not have Dr. Nor Virgen in front of my name, but I am a little more grown and I know something is not right and there may be possible fraud here. I need help in getting my file once again. maybe if I go publicI can get answers and my file.

I also would like to know if there is anyone out in the California, Oregon area's that feels as though Heald Business College has taken advantage of them, please contact me at xxxx*
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Please don't let These types of colleges scam you. Especially if your a young uneducated single mom.
The more I investigate, the more I am finding out that there are many of these business colleges doing wrong to low income people.

Can you broadcast this or help find someone to print this story. I have all the proof to prove my alligations. I would like to get an attorney ASAP heald still will not send me transcripts or answers to any of my questions. Even the president Lary Barton will not help, he could care less he's sitting pretty making his money of all of us!!!!!!!!

Lisa
colorado springs, Colorado

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*EDitor's Comment

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3 Updates & Rebuttals


Maelindatigger

San Luis Obispo,
California,
U.S.A.

Same thing has happened to m

#4Consumer Comment

Mon, July 27, 2009

Something like this has happened to me. In 2007 I found out that I had a loan on me from CSUB. I had no knowledge of this until 2007 when I moved and I was sent some paper work regarding a loan. I have contacted the loan department and they had sent me some paper work which was not my signature however along with that paper work was 10 (just like you had experienced) other students social security numbers and their mpn numbers. (I don't know what their mpn numbers are for). Anyways I contacted the Department of Education immediately but they told me to shred the evidence and keep my mouth shut in which I did not. In fact I contacted the CSUB, Governor, Mayor, Senator, President Bush, and others but nothing would be done about this. When I have asked for a dispute form from the Department of Education they have refused to give me the paper work. I contacted the news and everyone that I could think of. Well, a couple of weeks ago I finally got sick and tired of no one doing anything so I told the Department of Education if they did not send me the paper work as I requested then I was going to tell these students what happened with their social security numbers. This time some guy claiming to be from the fbi contacted me. Not only did I want more information in which he refused to give but then he showed up at my residence a day later. How he got my physical address i don't know because I gave them my p.o. box only. Here is the fbi's contact information. It is One World Trade Center, Suite 2300 Long Beach, Ca 90831 and his name is Eric Larson. His office number is (562) 980-4516 fax (562) 980-4143 Cell (562) 842-4169
My contact information is maelindatigger@yahoo.com. If anyone is serious about contacting me about the students names in which I will not give out the ssi numbers but their names are
Julie Rodarte
Jaime Santos
Amber P. Williams
Cherie Hodge
Jamie Hurst
Yesenia Lemus
Claire Raper
Sherah A Richardson
And there are a few others but I need to find the other paper work. However the names and social security numbers are protected by the Privacy Act. I think that I received the exact same paper work just like the other person did but different. If anyone would like to know more just let me know again my contact information is maelindatigger@yahoo. I will not give out the ssi numbers so please don't ask.


Oslo

BORING,
Oregon,
U.S.A.

I ATTENDED HEALD IN SACRAMENTO AS WELL.

#4Consumer Comment

Mon, January 28, 2008

1. In the 1980's many business colleges were enrolling any student who would sign on the dotted line.

2. Perhaps, you remember a business college named Sawyer School of Business?

3. They ended up getting in trouble with the State of California dept of Justice.

4. I was a transfer from Sawyer to Heald. But Heald shouldn't have let me in. Sawyer was so phony, that many of the tests students had taken, were graded higher than they should of been.

5. Bottom line, Heald new they were taking in students from Sawyer that couldn't cut the mustard with Heald's level of academics.

6. I dropped out, because I struggled with each class and got poor grades. It wasn't until I attened a regular jr. college in Sacramento--City College and took just basic typing, word processing, math and english classes that I then became ready for a business college again.

7. Maybe you can do the same. Hope this helps you.


Anon

Miami,
Florida,
U.S.A.

Get your facts straight

#4Consumer Comment

Sat, December 28, 2002

Okay, I am taking a deep breath, and trying to understand the above post.

I have worked in many college environments. Records are not kept indefinately due to privacy issues (for the student) and lack of space. Records are also not released to 3rd parties or back to the student.

According to your post, you attended this institution over 10 years ago. Why are you just now getting around to dealing with it? Let me guess--you have a negative mark on your credit rating due to the unpaid loan. The Department of Education did not make you the loan. They guarantee the loan, it gets bounced back to them for collection when a student is in "default". Before a student is put in default (a status meaning, payments on the loan have not been made as agreed), numerous letters and phone calls are made to the student. This probably happened to your years ago, when you were first considered in default.

You signed a loan agreement, the loan was sent to the school to pay for your semester. It does not sound like you officially dropped your classes or officially withdrew from school, you simply stopped going to classes. That is not the same as withdrawing or dropping a class.

You did not complete paperwork letting the school know your intention to stop attending classes. They applied your student loan to the entire semester, as any school would. As far as they knew, you were a student. It is very unlikely that at this point you will be able to prove your intentions over 10 years ago.

As a former employee of many institutions, I do get sick of students with your attitude, like the school is supposed to spoon-feed you through your entire experience. Take some responsibility for your own education. Certainly this isn't a surprise to you--why didn't you deal with it when they were calling you about defaulting many years ago?

Your best bet is to work out a payment plan for the loan repayment. Student loans don't go away, even if you declare bankrupcy. The IRS will forward any refunds you might ever be due on taxes to the Department of Education to be applied to your student loan debt. Until you take care of the old business, you will not be eligible for any new financial aid if you decide to attend college once again.

Good luck with it.

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