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Herbalife E-team Marketing ripoff Frisco Texas
E-team marketing is another bs company that lies and uses deception to lure people into a home business that will only make you broke. I tried this business not knowing anything about mlms or what they really are, but after three months of total lies and peprally calls, I now understand that the herbalife business is so saturated with distributers that you can't make money at all with their terrible products that make people sick.
Take my word for it, stay away from both of these companies unless you want to throw away money. When you signup all you are doing is making everyone in e-team marketing rich while you struggle to make the money back that you spend when signing up to be a distributer. I learned my lesson, wish I knew about this ripoff report web site before I signed up, take my word for it. Just stay away. It's a scam and a ripoff!
ex e-team member
atlanta, Georgia
U.S.A.
9 Updates & Rebuttals
Joknowswhy
United States of AmericaKnow who you're hating first.
#10REBUTTAL Owner of company
Mon, December 14, 2009
I was a member of the ETeam in Herbalife. Actually, I still am a member until January when my membership expires.
I think it should be noted that Herbalife company does not appear to be the creators of ETeam.
Herbalife is a MLM that requires its members to train their downline for free to grow their own business. It's against their rules to charge for such training.
It is true that their products had not been approved by the FDA. This is normal when it comes to natural alternative health products in the USA. The reason why that is, belongs in a completely different article.
It is also true that to get their best discount of 50% off, you must buy about $3000 of stock. If you're not interested in investing money in stock, then this business is probably not for you.
ETeam is the fastest growing team in Herbalife. It does not affiliate itself with the Herbalife company. It's 'simply' a marketing program designed by one of it's distributors for themselves and their downline. Since it does seem to be the biggest 'team', & they make use of national Tv ads like 'Crazy Fox' the odds of someone coming into Herbalife through them is probably higher than getting on another team.
The strength of the ETeam, is that it's average members climb the Herbalife ladder much quicker than an Herbalife distributor that is on another team. That is, if you can afford the outrageous price tag they put on their leads, for a long period of time.
Because of the training ETeam gave me, I qualified for the 'World Team' level in my first month. That means I created $15,000 in volume by signing up 3 'supervisors' under me who were willing to make the same investment, and some sales. That sounds pretty impressive, but that doesn't mean I was able to make back my investment.
ETeam sells its members 'Training Pack' leads at about $100 each. This is basically a qualified lead of someone interested in starting a home business.
To be clear: $100 for 1 person interested in starting a business.
Anyone who is in sales realizes this is an unconscionable price, since $100 should at least buy you 500 leads.
It order to get on their training calls for how to dial these leads, you must be purchasing 10 leads a month. To be allowed to participate in these calls and get one-on-one training, the requirement is 25 leads a month. So you would be paying $2500 a month for 25 leads, and training on how to call them.
I believe this is a clever scheme to get around Herbalife's rule of not charging your downline for training. You're not paying for training, you're just paying an outrageous price for leads for which they will train you to call.
Herbalife is a good company with good products, although their marketing strategy is a little too old-school for my taste.
I think ETeam has hijacked alot of Herbalife's market through their high sales volume & new distributors, which in turn, benefits Herbalife. The price to Herbalife, is that their reputation gets marred because of ETeam's greediness.
My suggestion to someone considering this business, is to ask the person signing you up directly if they're on ETeam. Then you will have an idea of where this relationship is heading.
Rob
Colville,Washington,
U.S.A.
Herbalife International / ETeam Marketing is a complete scam!
#10Consumer Suggestion
Sun, July 20, 2008
I agree with Nick 100% about those crooked ETeam criminals and the potentially dangerous products Herbalife is trying to poison us with!
Herbalife products have NOT been evaluated or approved by the Food and Drug Administration!
Herbalife International / ETeam Marketing alone are enough to make you sick!
T Pugh
Yreka,California,
U.S.A.
I'm a Distributor
#10UPDATE Employee
Wed, February 20, 2008
To begin with, Herbalife has been around for 28 years, in 65 countries, over 45 million customers. An MLM is not the equivalent of a pyramid scheme. If what Herbalife is doing was illegal, it wouldn't be around. Why MLM? It is the most cost effective way to do business and makes it affordable for the average person to own and operate their own business. No office space lease, no employees, no warehouse, no fees and required insurance. Virtually no overhead.
Herbalife doesn't make any claims that you'll get rich quick. Will you make money in this business? Absolutely, if you treat it like a business and you don't give up the first time you hit a bump in the road. Most people have this misconception that all you have to do is plunk down some money and that's it. Herbalife has positions to fit everyone's budget; you need to decide what's right for you and once you have you need to get serious about working it. It's your business for crying out loud! My husband and I have been working our Herbalife business part-time and have realized more than we expected in just 7 short months. Now understand, we already own a business and know what it takes to be successfully self-employed. You have to be committed to putting in the time and you must be disciplined. It's a commitment, not a hobby. We've sold, literally, thousands of dollars worth of product, helped so many people and have met incredible individuals through this business, but we're dedicated.
If you want a job and less responsibility then find a boss. If you want to work for yourself and stop trading hours for dollars and are committed to giving your absolute best, then this is for you. Keep in mind, it won't happen overnight, but it will happen as long as you are serious. Work it like a hobby and get hobby pay; work it like a business and the possibilities are endless.
People give up too easily; if it's not handed to them or done for them they cry sour grapes and refuse to take responsibility for their own failure. It's always someone else's fault.
Steven
Anthem,Arizona,
U.S.A.
I am an Herbalife Distributor
#10UPDATE Employee
Fri, January 11, 2008
Thank God I did not read this page before I joined Herbalife! Most important I didn't listen to anyone I just ate the products (than you know). I worked as a cop for 11 years and found Herbalife at the ninth year. Herbalife works bottom line.
I spent about $5,000 business investment and it took about 4-6 months to pay it back but I stayed focused.
If you have issues with yourself or you have no confidence in yourself or your product you will fail! America is full of Failures The Quzino's (sandwich franchise) owner here in my town failed at making sandwiches and tried to blame everyone including Quiznos.
Bottom line you look for the get rich quick scheme you deserve to fail. Type Herbalife in to Google and the New York stock exchange after reading that you will know anyone that is writing complaints on this page are just misguided hater type of people. I know America is full of these type of people (probably about 60%) from working in the police department.
Steve
Jonathan
Sacramento,California,
U.S.A.
One's trap somebody else's Goldmine
#10UPDATE Employee
Sat, September 09, 2006
To begin with, I am involved with this so called "scam or trap" of a company Herbalife in the ideal start up position of Supervisor. Now I'm sorry if some of you are disappointed with this opportunity, just because some opinionated people on the sidelines base their knowledge on bad gossip without actual facts. Yes, we do not post the Company- Herbalife on the Biz Op. sites or advertising for the simple reasons stated above. Also, in response to Jerry, I'm sorry that You feel The way you do but it sounds like you did just like me in the beginning: paid the money and thought everything was going to work out by itself without my undivided attention. These programs are fitted for every person's budget and or needs, also plans are emphasized not forced on anybody. Take the bull by the horns, form a business plan, set aside your projected business budget and visit ardealhomebiz.com when ready. We're here to help
build dreams and business relationships, not to disappoint, take advantage or cause financial ruin. Hope to see you all on the road to success.
P.S. For better information on company, enter NYSE traded ticker HLF on your finance browser or stockbroker site.
Gloria
Alpharetta,Georgia,
U.S.A.
I barely avoided this trap
#10Consumer Suggestion
Mon, May 01, 2006
First of all, thanks to ripoffreport.com and all of the people who contribute to it. In my search to find a good home business, this is at least the third time I've avoided losing money thanks to all of you.
I saw a tv ad for 15work.com and accessed the sight. It "selected" (not sure if this is true) a business for me based on my inputs and sent me to the selected website. I listened to the online testamonials for the business, read all of the info I could access and started to fill in my personal information as requested. The site had no information about the business name or product(s), which concerned me, but I figured that at worst, I'd lose my $9.95 shipping.
Considering the site noted that the info would be shipped overnight and I'd only have 14 days to review it before I had to pay for the information packet, I decided to hold off before submitting my request since it was a busy time for me. I went about my business and I'm sure you can image my surprise when I received a phone call from someone about my submission (not completed) urging me to order right away and she would follow up with me at the end of the week. She was persistent, but so was I.
Now we come to today. Things have finally slowed down a bit for me so I decided to complete my submission. When I got to the credit card information page, I wondered about the security of the site and noticed a security icon. I clicked on the icon, and was pleasantly surprised to find the company name and address:
E-team Marketing in Plano Texas. I immediately logged on to ripoffreport.com and found this report.
My suggestion to all who are pursuing opportunities via websites (as I am), is to make sure you read everything you possibily can on the site, including all terms and conditions, and of course do your research, including checking Rip-off Report.
Fightin' The Good Fight
Arlington,Texas,
U.S.A.
Was ripped off before I knew who they were
#10Consumer Comment
Mon, April 03, 2006
Color it any way you want...Herbalife is a SCAM.
I received an ad for a "work at home" business. I was to send $9.95 for the training video, which I was to get the next day. It said if I wasn't happy with the video, I could get my money back. No obligation after that. The ad said nothing about the type of company it was. I paid the $9.95, and didn't get the video for over a week. What I did get was phone calls and emails from LEE ANDRUS, advising me to set up an appointment and etc. I finally emailed him and told him I wanted my money back. He said that he had shipped the DVD, and the $9.95 was non-refundable, because it was for shipping!!!
I decided I wanted nothing to do with this Lee Andrus or whatever his company was. I didn't watch the DVD.
Last week, a charge of $29.95 suddenely appears on my account...from Lee Andrus/Herbalife! I disputed the charge through my bank and cancelled my card. I emailed Lee Andrus, who never responded to my complaint.
Bottom line: if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
Ryan
Broomfield,Colorado,
U.S.A.
Truth about Supervisor Spot
#10UPDATE Employee
Mon, April 03, 2006
It is a great thing to start off at the supervisor spot. If you can afford it then do it. I couldn't afford it so i retailed my way to it. By doing that i also lost about $500 in the discount difference. I wish i could afford it, but i am a college student. It is possible, but not recommended. The truth about this business is that the more you invest the more you are going to make. ITS A BUSINESS, no one seems to realize that to succeed you need to get your name out there and to do that costs money, in most cases unless you want to make a living off your friends and family. If you have any doubt in the products you cant sell them. I have been taking them since i started selling them. I used to have really dry skin, acid reflux and depression. ALL GONE!!!!! My energy is great i have lost 10 lbs and 2 inches around my waist. I am staying on Herbalife till i die. If you dont belive me then check out Herbalife and read some of the testimonials. After you do that and decide you want to join under a distributor that will be straight forward with you then visit my website and ill start you off right.
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Peace and God bless
Jerry
Lucas,Texas,
U.S.A.
How to avoid getting ripped off by Herbalife
#10Consumer Suggestion
Mon, March 20, 2006
I bought into the Herbalife E-Team business a few weeks ago to the tune of almost $3000 to become a Superviser. I cannot "blame" anyone but myself for making a hasty decision. I requested the DVD training package by responding to a
radio ad to go to a website HomeBiz8.com
Nothing on the site gave any clue what the business was, but I received a call from a representative who sent me the DVD. He didn't tell me what the company was (and I didn't really press him). He set up a second "interview" with another "upline" rep and the pressure was on big-time to make the apppointment or I would miss out on the opportunity. I watched the DVD and it showed the multi-millionairee telling his story, but it STILL didn't say it was Herbalife. On the second call appointment I was told it was Herbalife and the way to make up to $15,000 per month was to buy in as a Supervisor (hence the $3000 worth of products). But this call led to another upline to the top distributor of this branch of the business, and once again I was pressured to make this call or I would miss out. Oh, and on this second call I was told how to access the rest of the story on the DVD through some hidden mechanism. And I was also required to complete the training DVD and do the questionaire 24 hours BEFORE the next appointment or I would not get to have the next appointment. So I faithfully went through the training and did the questionaire. During this time I received multiple email reminders to make my appointment because the business was booming and I would miss out otherwise. There would be NO second chances.
On my final appointment call, which are all attended by all the distributors involved in recruiting me, the top lady told me she was making $30,000 a month and the ONLY way for me to really become financially free was to come in as a Supervisor ($3000), to not even think about the lower levels. By the way, all these levels and revenue earning opportunities were explained on the "hidden" part 2 on the DVD. So I gave my credit card # and in about a week received 4 huge boxes of Herbalife products to sell (and some for myself). I even went to the local rally in Dallas which was very exciting and gave many testimonials of people succeeding in this business (about 2000 people there).
I was still determined and excited when I left the 2 day meetings, but the "kicker" really came when I received my next follow-up call where I was to decide what level to commit to, either a Producer (sell the products only) or a Builder (recruit other distributors). Of course I wanted the most so on that call I started to make that choice. HOWEVER, here's where the real shock occured. I was told to become a part of this Builder team and to really make the money I wanted I had to "buy" advertising shares and the minimum recommended number of shares was 5 at $250 each per week (or whenever I could buy them). Each share would yield 14 leads which I would then call at a rate of at least 3 or 4 times per day, and I should be calling 400 per week to start to reap the benefits. Doing the math I decided to stop totally at that point.
I tell all this as a caution to anyone reading this or contemplating this distributorship with Herbalife. I almost went for 3 shares per week, but reality finally hit and I backed out.
They were trying to be helpful at that point and wanted to help me sell the $3000 worth of products. But that would cost me in increments of $400 for more leads, or I could sell to family and friends. I posted my Herbalife stock on E-Bay and sold it at a loss of $1900.
I was too hasty, not cautious enough. Yet I felt duped and deceived and tricked and pressured into each decision I made for myself. They are nice people, they probably are succeeding; I just decided I couldn't afford it and I did not want to use this method to bring other people into this business.