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  • Report:  #38428

Complaint Review: HMS Blue

HMS Blue aka HMS Blue Long Distance Vacation Rip Off 1-866-467-2583 fraudulent charge Nationwide *UPDATE ..Found Out Who Sold My Credit Card

  • Reported By:
    High Point North Carolina
  • Submitted:
    Tue, December 17, 2002
  • Updated:
    Sat, December 21, 2002

I was checking my online banking today and noticed that my account balance had dropped by $60 some dollars over nite! Knowing I hadn't used my Visa Check Card in the last 24 hours, I researched this further, and found a charge that appeared on my statement as *HMS Blue Long Distance*, in the amount of $61.02.

Never having heard of this company before, I immediately called my bank. They informed me that the charge was made at 2:03pm on 12-16-02. I was in a 2 hour business meeting during that time! I then informed my bank that this had to be an unauthorized charge. I would have remembered making it..and as I run my own long distance company, it could not have been a charge for long distance service!

I asked my bank to track down contact information for the company, and they were unable to find any. Generally when a credit card charge is made, a phone number is attached for customer disputes. But not in this case. My bank informed me that I would have to file paperwork for the unauthorized charge and it would take a few days to get reversed unless we could track down the company and get them on the phone.

I then spent about a half hour on the internet running every search I could imagine. Finally I found a link to www.ripoffreport.com, where I read an interesting tale by another user who had the same thing happen to them. And what do you know, the person had a contact number with their report!

I called immediately, and told the operator that I had an un-authorized charge to my credit card. She apparently needed my card number in order to look up the transaction. I told her I did not want to give her my card number and asked for a supervisor. They promptly transferred my to voicemail.

Well, you don't mess with a man's money, especially a week before Christmas...so it was time to play hard ball. I ran my phone system through my computer and set it up to record when I made the call.

I called back and was told the same thing, that they needed my credit card to lookup my account. I informed the operator that the call was being recorded (I come from a law enforcement background...it is perfectly legal to record any phone call as long as the other person is aware it is happening). When I informed her of this, she almost hung up on me and started ranting and raving about how she never gave me her permission...(keep in mind this is 30 seconds into the call)

I finally asked her, "Are you going to provide me with customer service, or are you refusing to answer my query as long as we are on a recorded line?"

She finally decided to ignore the fact that there was going to be a record of everything she said. Before giving her my card number (I mean, obviously they already have it, right?) I explicitly told her that I was not authorizing any more charges to this card. Sure enough she found my account.

To make a long story short, this is what happened. Apparently one of the many places I use my credit card, SOLD my CREDIT CARD NUMBER and ADDRESS to HMS Blue. (Didn't know you could buy random credit card numbers...hmmm). Then I was supposedly sent out a calling card that had a month of free long distance. (I never got anything of the sort, nor requested it) The terms and conditions of this offer that I neither requested nor received was that if I did not cancel the card within 30 days, my *purchased* credit card number was automatically charged.

Well...I just have to wonder how many people don't catch this on their bill? That is a lot of money they get to keep.

As a little treat to everyone out there, I have sent the recording of myself and the customer service representative to the webmaster of this site, and I believe he will be uploading it for your enjoyment. I bleeped out my credit card number, but otherwise the call is uncensored.

I also contacted the Federal Trade Commission with my recording and story, and am waiting for them to get back to me.

On top of that, I have an attorney friend who owes me a favor, and I am going to be exploring the option of putting together a lawsuit against this company. Hopefully with the unification of people like the users of this site we can get this company shut down. If you would be interested in taking part or being a witness in a lawsuit (if I can get it to come to that) please e-mail me at excellence@myexcel.com and put "HMS Blue" in the subject line.

And if you're reading this far, thanks to listening to my story...hopefully speaking out will help with consumer awareness so that less people are victimized.

Matt
High Point, North Carolina
U.S.A.

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3 Updates & Rebuttals


Found Out Who Sold My Credit Card Number!!

#40

Sat, December 21, 2002

When I had contacted HMS Blue to find out where my order had originated from, she informed me that a company I do business with sold them my credit card information. I have been going mad trying to figure out which one that was, but tonight I found out.



VistaPrint.com. The webs largest supplier of business cards. Folks, I am in shock. I have been doing business with them for quite some time. I was creating a new order tonight, and as I finished check out I noticed an offer pop up on my screen. And low and behold it was for the rouge calling card that you get to try out free of charge for 10 days (though I was charged the same day it was postmarked).



From all outward appearances, you are not informed that your credit card information will be transferred to this other company. You have to read through the legal mumbo-jumbo in the terms and conditions to find out.



I know that last time I placed an order from them I did not click accept. But maybe it was because I closed the pop up window instead of clicking no thanks is why it decided to place my order. In any case, this is a terrible way to do business, and there has to be some regulations about this!


My Original Call to HMS Blue

#40

Fri, December 20, 2002

As the webmaster has not yet posted my recording, you may listen to it from my web server. The call is located here: www.theartofexcellence.com/dispute_call.mp3



It is a 5 MB file, so may take a moment to download. Enjoy!



Matt


from a company called Direct One Communications

#40

Fri, December 20, 2002

Today, 12-20-02 I finally received this calling card in the mail which is what I had supposedly been billed for. It was from a company called Direct One Communications (1-800-665-5276)



The terms and conditions stated in the letter said that my credit card would be charged in 10 days of receipt if I did not cancel. It was postmarked 12-16-02, strangly enough the same day my credit card was charged. I asked them to verify how they received my order, and they could not.



(By the way, the answer the phone, "May I get the telephone number for which you would like to cancel service?")



I called back and asked for a supervisor, and they promptly transferred me to voicemail.

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