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  • Report:  #23869

Complaint Review: J FRANK MOTORS

J FRANK MOTORS ripoff consumer rip-off fraud victimized many consumers ripoff deception Indianapolis Indiana

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    Indianapolis In
  • Submitted:
    Tue, July 02, 2002
  • Updated:
    Sat, June 19, 2004
  • J FRANK MOTORS
    5198 Lafayette Road
    Indianapolis, Indiana
    U.S.A.
  • Phone:
    317-2914108
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I, entered into a sales contract agreement with J.FRANK MOTORS A USED MERECEDES BENZ DEALER LOACTED IN INDIANAPOLIS INDIANA, in December 2001. This sale was for the purchase of a 1998 ML320 Mercedes SUV

The Sales Contract stated was that I was to pay for the Sales Tax of $1075.00 at that time and Mr. Frank would accept my current vehicle, a 1992 300E as a consignment sale. A consignment sale means the vehicle still belongs to me and he receives commission for selling it through his used car dealership.

The proceeds from the sale of my 300E to go toward the down payment of the 1998 SUV. We had discussed a minimum value of $8,100, which was wholesale for this vehicle, but the final price would be determined by the sale price received for my vehicle. He listed it for $12,500 on website and on lot. This was all stated at the time of the sale contract signing. The cost of advertisement ($200.00) and detailing $125.00, I agreed to be taken out of the sale which would go to Mr. Frank.

If I chose to keep my 1992 300 E and not use it for down payment. I agreed to give Mr. Frank $5,000 - $7,500 as cash down payment in February 2002. I did not make this choice.


WE AGREED BY SIGING THESE DETAILS ON THE SALES CONTRACT THAT MR. FRANK WOULD FINANCE THE BALANCE OF THE VEHICLE NOT TO EXCEED 12 MONTHS.

I had planned on making a balloon payment pay-off within this time period. Mr. Frank agreed to arrange a payment schedule by the end of February. Mr. Frank contacted me late January 2002 and requested a cash payment we had not agreed upon. He said he had a lot of credit due from the holidays and needed cash. I reminded him of the terms of our agreement and Sales Contract which stated I would not be responsible for payments prior to Feb.16 2002. He reluctantly hung up the phone.

The next correspondence I heard from Mr. Frank was Feb. 18 2002 via certified mail. He sent a notice that my Promissory Note was due Feb.16, 2002. I contacted Mr. Frank, after several unsuccessful attempts, I left a voice mail message that stated I appreciated the arrangement we had made and needed Mr. Frank to establish a promissory note and payment schedule. I needed to properly tag the vehicle. I also dropped off a cashiers check for $ 415.00, on February 21 since I had not yet received a payment schedule.

By March, Mr. Frank still had not sent a payment schedule. I called multiple times and was unsuccessful to reach him in this reference. I received another certified letter stating that I owed Mr. Frank for my 1992 300 E consignment fees. I called Mr. Frank as I found the verbiage on this letter different than that that we had previously signed and agreed to.

Mr. Frank yet would not give me a payment schedule,would not abide by the terms we had signed on the sales contract in reference to the consignment sale and the purchase.I drafted a profitable payment schedule and sent it to him to sign. I again, explained that I needed to get the vehicle properly tagged and insured so I needed to have this matter taken care of as soon as possible. Typically one do not insure a vehicle that is not legally in their name but I did carry full coverage as I was driving the vehicle and beleived because of the sales contract it belonged to me.

After he still had not responded, my husband went by to see Mr. Frank middle March on my behalf to reconcile the matter. He carried the payment schedule I had drawn up and payment. Mr. Frank was not willing to hold up to his end of the agreement. He was currently in breech of the sales contract agreement.

I was upset and called Mr. Frank and threaten to sue if he breeched our sales agreement. By this time Mr. Frank's hired Gorilla's that had started following and harassing us.
Accusing us of stealing the SUV. I was shocked beyond believe.

Mr. Frank finally returned the call and said he no longer was going to finance the vehicle, or take my vehicle on consignment for down payment. He then had various hoodlums, Randy from Mejer Recovery Service, a nonlicensced detective agency and a Darrell Heady from Marshall detective investigations, another less than ethical company showed up at our home to steal the vehicle back.

They began to call my job, my home, and my cell phone, most of which we recorded. They physically threatened my husband and I. They Illegally accessed our property, falsified information to Laws Enforcement Agencies with intent and the purpose of an illegal search and seizure.

They lied, and said we had stolen the vehicle, which is recorded and proves defamation of character and showed totally unrelated documents to the Police in an effort to obtain entry to our garage. We called the police, invited them in to our home and explained that this was a civil issue showed the signed sales contract and the payment receipts and had the men were escorted from our property. This occurred after 2AM on a workday and we both have to be at work by 6:30am.

They kept us up all night and returned the following morning trailing us around LIKE WE WERE COMMON CRIMMINALS. This was humiliating and very embarrassing. We live in a conservative neighborhood. They were causing distractions that we found to be endangerment of our lives while driving being harassed. They never even had a Cause number as a legal method of recovery.

They lied and threathen us saying a warrant for our arrest had been issued and we would be picked up at our place of employment on the following morning for stealing our SUV.

In the beginning I tried to be civil with these people and explain to them that this was a civil issue and unless they had legal documents then we had nothing to discuss with them. A recorded log will show that they continued to harass us regardless of my warning.

The following morning they had the police detain me for more than 3 hours by pulling me over (4 police cars and an undercover vehicle)for car theft. It took that long to straighten this out. I was extremely upset and very late for work. Of course there is nothing that the police could do because we had already hired legal counsel to pursue this in civil and now crimminal court.

This act was followed by these thugs following me to my office waiting for me to get out of the SUV and they stole it off my employer's lot. All of my personal items I had in the vehicle were stolen and never returned. This included a priceless family heirloom that I had in my vehicle for the purpose to take to the repair show to be fixed.

He admitted that the thugs, at his command had stolen my vehicle. He refused to give my vehicle back, or my MORE THAN $1500.00 I had paid him for the SUV. aS WELL ALL MY PERSONAL BELONGING WERE ALSO STOLEN BY J. FRANK AND HIS ASSOCIATES.

In addition J. Frank committed fraud and without my authority signed my name to a repair order and claimed to have did repair of over $1,600.00 to my 300E he had to sell on consignment. I never saw this document until it was ordered by my attorney.

HE NOW DEMANDED $1659.00 FOR ME TO GET BACK MY OWN VEHICLE, THE 300E THAT HE WAS TO SELL ON CONSIGNMENT. Even though we did not agree with these charges i needed to get back my vehicle because i needed transportation. So we agreed to pay the fictions charges and sue to get our money back. I went there on three separate occasions with a certified check and he still would not release my 300e which i have the title. He produced a fony document for us to sign contradicting his earlier claim for the repairs. This released him of all obligations on any repairs that he had made. It said although he claimed we authorized those repairs that he was charging us for that they were all done of his good will and therefore he would offer no guarantees.

WELL OF COURSE HE WOULD NOT OFFER GUARUANTEES BECAUSE IT COULD EASILY BE PROVEN THAT NO WORK HAD BEEN PERFORMED! THE 300E WAS JSUT AS WE HAD LEFT IT IF NOT WORSE OFF! After speaking with our attorney we agreed to sign the document, not in agreement, but ANYTHING TO GET OUR VEHICLE OUT OF HIS CLUTHES.J FRANK STILL REFUSED TO RELEASE OUR VEHICLE AFTER 3 ATTEMPTS! We met all his illegal stipulations, we owned the vehicle, and i spent the better part of a day waiting around the dealership while he hid so he would not have to produce the vehicle.

I HAD TO LEASE A VEHICLE AT $300.00 A WEEK, AT MY OWN EXPENSE, FOR 4 MONTHS SO FAR, BECAUSE I HAVE NO TRANSPORATAION. THIS MATTER IS STILL UNRESOLVED.

Several lawsuits are being filed against all companies involved. In addition to a law suit(s) we will pursue against Mr. Frank and J. Frank Motors and his subsidiaries. We also plan to attach his personal assets as well.

In addition we will recommend to the Marion County Prosecutor and the court that separate law suits be filed on behalf of the county of Marion and Hamilton for the time and effort used to process and pursue a stolen vehicle report where the filer, Mr. Frank, and his associates knowingly used false evidence and lies to engage the police in an illegal effort. Because of this malice and unscrupulous behavior to breech his own Sales Contract, caused harassment and irretrievable damage to us. We fell victims of his masquerade. Complaints have also been filed with Attorney General's Office and the Better Business Bureau on all three companies.

My husband and I are tax paying, law abiding, and politically active citizens; we will not tolerate these illegal practices.

We ARE CERTAIN THAT THIS MAN AND HIS ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS OF SWINDLING CONSUMERS FOR MORE THAN 2 DECADES! PLEASE DO NOT GO THERE TO PURCHASE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!

If YOU HAVE BEEN A VICTUM OF HIS UNSCRUPULOUS PRACTICES PLEASE CONTACT ME. There is a real possibility of a class action law suit.

If you are an attorney and are interested in this case, please contact me. We have multiple legal issues that need pursuing. Again, he has assets that are large enough to pay for your services and provide some restitution for us, the victims.

IF YOU ARE WITH THE MEDIA AND ARE INTERESTED IN THIS AS AWARENESS STORY, PLEASE CONTACT US. IT IS OUR OBJECTIVE TO EXPOSE THIS CROOK IN AS MANY FORUMS AS POSSIBLE.

THE MAIN MESSAGE IS STAY AWAY FROM J FRANK MOTORS AT 5198 LAYFAYETTE ROAD IN INDIANAPOLIS. THEY ARE CON ARTIST, THIEVES, LIARS, AND DESREVE TO BE IN PRISON!!!!!

In closing, we wish to extend Much THANKS TO THIS PUBLIC FORUM TO USE AS ANOTHER WAY TO WARN CONSUMERS OF THIS FRADULENT BUSINESS

Cassandra
Indianapolis, Indiana

2 Updates & Rebuttals


APRIL

IRVINE,
California,
U.S.A.

increaseyourhealth.com - Hydroderm Wrinkle Reducer - charged $ 58.77 not $ 2.95 as expected

#3Consumer Comment

Sat, June 19, 2004

HYDRODERM RIP-OFF

COMPLAINT AGAINST HYDRODERM email address: RETURNS OR CSR@INCREASEYOURHEALTH.COM

After reading the complete advertising & fine print, I ordered a "free sample" of HYDRODERM WRINKLE REDUCER, for the cost of shipping only $2.95, which was billed to my credit card. Subsequently on my next bank statement I see a charge not only for the agreed upon $2.95, but for $58.77.

After speaking with CSR I was told that they had, "out of courtesy" signed me up to be sent a bottle of the above stated lotion, each month & I would be billed monthly the $58.77.

I went back and forth with the CSR & was told that for the next month they would take my name off the list, but I still had to pay the current charge for the bottle I didn't order or within 30 days send it back, with me paying shipping, within 30 days, and accompanied by the original packing slip.

Truly I feel this is dishonest, misleading advertising, & I advise anyone to not dare order a "free sample." I had to find time to write this letter, but I am doing so because I am sure that there are many other busy women out there like myself, who also got taken, but just don't have the time, etc. to complain.

LAVAY


Cassandra

Indianapolis,
Indiana,
U.S.A.

I will start displaying Video Clips of the Theives Stealing my Vehicle

#3Author of original report

Thu, June 05, 2003

Believe it or not this is still going on. I have spent more than $67,000 in expenses and replacement cost while this criminal and his associates are allowed to continue to do business in this state.

Well I contacted his Attorney last evening, Albert Berrones of Ramirez Law Office P.C. 42 Virginia Avenue-Third Floor Indianapolis Indiana, (One has to wonder what type of Lawyer it takes to defend a company who has bluntly lied and stole from so many people. He probably lies to his attorney too!) Unlike Mr. Frank and his associates I work a real job and make an HONEST Living, verses ripping folks off, therefore I had to leave a message, as he was not available when by the time I get off work.

The funny thing is he is counter suing me for creating damage to Mr. Frank's reputation on this web site! I can not tell you how funny I find that!

Well hear is a news flash for Mr. Berrones; Not only am I publishing it on this website but I will also run it on every media outlet I can find to include videos and audiotapes and advertisements. Why? Because I can, it is true and people need to know so they will not be his next victims. I HAVE IRREPUTABLE PROOF OF ALL MY STATEMENTS. I think if more cases were tried in public Forums AND THE MEDIA THAT ARE RELATED TO CONSUMERS BEING RIPPED OFF THERE WOULD BE LESS OF THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY.

They jack us around and tried to make us pay even more out of the pocket by hiring attorney's that cost a fortunate to get back what someone stole. Well I say if this forum can stop even one person from buying or leasing from j frank motors then it has served its purpose. Stay tuned for updates and site location where i will start displaying videotapes of the thugs stealing my car, threatening me at my home. Audiotapes of Mr. J. Frank saying he is backing out on the agreement and he wants all his money NOW REFUSING TO FOLLOW THE ARRANGEMENTS OF THE SALES CONTRACT. I can also scan in police reports that will show how they used false information and reported my vehicle as stolen so I could be pulled over by the police, who were not able to do anything because I had the sales contract, payment receipts, and a letter from my attorney informing authorities that this illegal behavior would be attempted by these hoodlums and a call to Marion county sheriff's dept west district that confirmed these people had no right to stop me this was a civil issue and I should not continue to be detained. That is when the crooks followed me, entered private property of my employer without permission and got caught on surveillance camera stealing my vehicle. There is a police report of this too on file as I reported the vehicle stolen.

I think I will make a video and sell it to America's dumbest criminals. My neighbors all of who have given me their film from there exterior security systems that show these hoodlums creeping around my neighborhood. Our neighborhood security documented three separate calls from neighbors reporting a suspicious car that alarmed and frightened many of the children there. Again, authorities were called an they were escorted off the grounds.

So Mr. Frank want to sue me because I am lying about his good reputation on this website! What a joke! First he never had a good reputation to start! As I understand it his reputation is that of a cheat, a liar, and a con. I am merely adding creditability to the reputation he already has! He created documents of a promissory and forged or copied my signature on said I signed it! The problem with this story is he forgot I switched attorneys so the one he filed with the court and the first one his attorney sent to the first attorney I employed are different! Imagine that they both came from his attorney to 2 separate attorney's I used. What happen did he lose the copy of the first one he sent so as usual, he will just create another one? But if you are going to lie and fabricate documents you might one to put the same thing on all of them especially when they go to the court. (ha!, ha!) Oh and here is another little clue that he fabricated the document, he might have checked to see if I was even in state on the date he forged my signature and put on the contract. (ha! Ha!) This is definitely one for America's dumbest criminals!

I might as well laugh than cry he has caused me so much money and pain and stress I do not think I will ever recover it all! This guy deserves to go to jail and never do business again!
But as I informed the attorney last evening on a tape-recorded message, I am tired! It has been way too long and cost me far too much! No more games! We can end this now and he can pay me physical damages and I will walk away. But if not all bets are off! There will be civil and criminal charges and multiple avenues of media exposure!

Just in case anyone is interested we have been collecting names and avadavat for a class action lawsuit as well. We have 17 folks so far so contact me for attorney info ASAP! In addition there are still 2 cases pending against him at the state attorney generals office and multiple complaints at the bbb. I encourage you to step up to the plate let stop letting these guys rip us off!! There is freedom of speech this is America and I will not tolerate it!!!!!

Stay tuned this could be only the beginning! But God I hope not all I want is what is rightfully due to me and I will get it one way or the other. That is up to Mr. Frank!

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