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Complaint Review: Jani Teeter - Pierre Trudeau - Coastal Vacations - Coastal Synergy Group

Jani Teeter - Pierre Trudeau - Coastal Vacations - Coastal Synergy Group - Jade Peaks Overstated Opportunity, Lied about Cost of Doing Business, Refused To Honor 90 Day Money Back Guarantee, Lied About Coastal Synergy Groups Success Rate, Did not have the experience to back up their website information Canada Quebec

  • Reported By:
    Vancouver British Columbia
  • Submitted:
    Fri, November 09, 2007
  • Updated:
    Fri, November 30, 2007
  • Jani Teeter - Pierre Trudeau - Coastal Vacations - Coastal Synergy Group
    Canada, Quebec
    Canada
  • Phone:
    800-610-2085
  • Category:

I initially was looking at Coastal Vacations as a business opportunity to allow me to stay home with my new baby. I was introduced to Coastal Through an advertisement and when I was doing my research I found Jani Teeter/ Pierre Trudeau's website.

When I found the website I bookmarked it and continued my research, but the information on their website seemed to resonate with me, so I called them for more information. When I asked about their 90 Day Money Back Guarantee I was told that I'd have to qualify for that and was willing to do so.

When I got started with them, I put $4000 on my Visa card, expecting to hit the numbers I was given by Jani. I'm very sorry to say that Jani was wrong about the income, but I'll get to that.

Jani works with the Coastal Synergy Group and I paid the $99 activation fee required to join that group. I was then directed to pay $89 per month for their normal website program and another $65 for some online theatre thing that only worked half the time.

The information I found for training didn't represent anything Jani has told me. It was very confusing. I didn't know what direction to go to make this business produce income. I bought leads at Jani's recommendation. The leads were very expensive, but I bought the best lead which was over $10 each. At this point I've got almost $6000 into this and have not had 1 sale.

When I asked about earning income, Jani kept refering me to personal development and to the trainings the CSG offers, but I had no luck.

Jani claimed that she was very successful with CSG, but I see from their top sales club that she's only gotten honorable mention with just 3 sales. To further support my theories about the lack of success for CSG members the sales club show only 3 people who had made 5 or more sales in a month. Only 3...and the group claims to have 2000 members? Hmmm.

If you looking at Coastal Vacations, I suggest you consider all your options and NOT go in this direction as it has been a bad decision. I'm now working with another director who took me onto their team at no charge and has been very helpful. I NOW know that the CSG is not Coastal Vacations and that the CSG doesn't even share official coastal information with its members.

Pamela
Vancouver, British Columbia
Canada

15 Updates & Rebuttals


Denise

New Auburn,
Wisconsin,
U.S.A.

Some people will do anything.....

#16Consumer Comment

Fri, November 30, 2007

I have worked all my life for other people. Not that that is bad, but I finally came to a place where I decided that I wanted to work for myself and prove to myself that "I could do it" and actually have no one to point a finger to but myself if I failed. I know that having a home based business is hard work and you have to be self motivated. I also know, after joining Coastal Vacations, and more specifically Jade Peaks with Jani and Pierre, that failure may belong to me, but success is shared with them, my mentors. Since I started with Jani and Pierre this fall, I have had wonderful words of encouragement, personal phone conversations, emails and directives to help me be the best that I can be every day. I wanted more time with my family and flexibility in my schedule and the opportunity to make more money and I am willing to work hard to achieve just that! They have led by example and have also been dependable and kind. Just the kind of mentors that I was looking for! The kind that are not in it solely for the money, but the kind that seek to help others grow, learn, challenge themselves and then succeed. I joined the Jade Peaks team for their reputation and the Coastal Synergy Group for the same reason and have not been disappointed.

I aim to grow and learn and share with others (as I succeed with the awesome support that I have gotten,) how they too, can take a chance on themselves and an amazing group of people and GO FOR IT. Remember, we get back what we GIVE. Sounds like just a person complaining and jealous to me as far as "Pamela's" comments go and that is too bad. There are always "bad" apples in the bunch yes, but I am thrilled and excited to be in the bunch that "shines." In this joyous Holiday season that we are in, I am just thankful and grateful for where I am and with whom I work!!


Coastal Sunshine

New York,
New York,
U.S.A.

The truth about Jani!!!

#16UPDATE Employee

Tue, November 20, 2007

Dear Pamela,
I am sorry that you feel you had a bad experience with the Coastal Synergy Group and with Jani and Pierre in particular. I notice that you even went further to write another negative report a few days later. I couldn't help noticing that your location changed. One minute you are in Vancouver and the next you are in Denver. Now I am not saying that you can't travel around the world...that is one of the wonders that Coastal Vacations gives us...so maybe you were traveling...fine, but it does not make your claims sound trustworthy. Your lack of identity does not make you an interesting mystery guest on a talk show, it makes you sound false.

I say this not to discredit you, but to show you how you are discrediting yourself.
Please be courageous enough to call Jani or Pierre and make your misgivings known to them personally and privately. It is obvious you feel they have done you some grave injustice. You really should sort that out with them and if they do not accept your argument gracefully, THEN you could feel free to go public and write a ripoff report.

I would like to believe that you are a mature adult and know that this is the way to deal with people, but I think you have proven that notion is wrong already.

Here is the TRUTH about Jani!!!

I joined Coastal Vacations with one of the call center groups in February 2007. I invested a lot of money, a lot of time, and some more lots of money. I did not make a penny back, nor did I get enough training. I was new to advertising and Internet marketing, so it would have taken me a good while to learn how to make these avenues work for me. A good while and even MORE money. I just couldn't afford that. My director, though a nice guy, was so busy with his HUGE team that it felt as if I was on my own most of the time. (by the way, I did NOT write a rip off report)

So I started mingling with other coastal members, from different coastal groups and asked for advice on working the business, advertising etc etc etc.

I was a regular on an internet forum on home businesses. This is where I met Jani.
I never approached her, I was usually talking to other people. But every time she responded to someone, everything she said made sense. After a month or more of this, I took the initiative to call her for advice. She was absolutely WONDERFUL! She answered my questions honestly and gave me advice with out ever even implying anything negative about my director or my system.

She was of the opinion that there is plenty enough for all and we should all do what works for us, and work with a team and director that works for us. No one director is a perfect fit for everyone, just like no one business is the perfect fit for everyone.

Needless to say, after months of wasted investments in advertising of all sorts, I decided to give the more traditional approach of the coastal business a chance. I had nothing against the BOD and would have joined there but I had spent so much and at least I had already made a connection with Jani, so I called her to join in. And just to show you how much integrity this woman has, she would not take me on UNLESS I spoke to my director about it first. She was very clear with me that she believes in honesty. So I had to swallow my pride and tell him the truth and he let me go with no problem at all. As I said, he was a real nice guy, but I felt I might work better with Jani.

So once everything was cleared up. I joined Jani's team. This was before she teamed up with Pierre.

Right from my first day in the CSG I felt the difference. Dear Pamela, What you refer to as a "cult" in your report dated 11/18/07 is actually a bunch of people truly CARING about your success.

As soon as I started my training on the MAC system I was blown away. Everything was so easy to understand and so well categorized...The MAC system is amazingly user friendly. The websites are beautiful and the back office is so well organized. All this for $89 a month??? I was in heaven!!

Now remember, I had spent a lot of money already, and had not made any. I could not afford much in terms of Advertising. Jani NEVER told me which leads to buy. Infact Jani NEVER told me to do anything. She deals with people like they are grown ups with thier own brain. She tells them the options and lets them choose based on their own situation.

She gave me many suggestions on affordable advertising. And walked me through the how to, what, when and where of prospecting.
I would not trade her for anyone. I finally felt like I was actually running a business. That I know what to say to people, how to present it, how to present myself. All this I had not learned before. I have Jani to thank for it.
A death in the family and a month long film production put my business on hold for almost 3 months. Jani never gave up on me. She called me to check on my well being and sent me encouraging emails.

When I finally came back, she was right there! She introduced me to Pierre and the new Jade Peaks team, and between the both of them I have been having the greatest help and guidance and encouragment.
You are SO wrong about these people.

Allow me to reference some of your statements:

"...I put $4000 on my Visa card expecting to hit the numbers i was given by Jani...Jani was wrong about the income.."

- I am quite certain that Jani did not gaurantee you to be making any given income at any time. Not only does that not sound like her. But everyone in this business knows that everyone has a different story. Even amongst the leadership...some of them made big bucks in 2 weeks, others like Carol McCord and Annette Kennedy admit that it took them a while to make any money. It took me almost a year. But that is the key to this business...your success depends ENTIRELY on YOU!!! and you alone. So why not look in the mirror and ask Pamela what was it that held you back. It was not Jani!

"I was then directed to pay $89 per month for their normal website and another $65 for some online theatre that only worked half the time"

- It really hurts me to hear you disrespect the hard work that has been done for YOU in this way. E2 Impact have gone over and beyond to create a system that totally makes our work that much easier. The CSG MAC system is amazing. If you had no director to talk to, this system alone could teach you. The website is worth every penny. Feel free to compare it to other groups. I know cos I came from another group. I paid less there, but I hated the look of my website. The "some online theatre " you are referring to, I am assuming to be the Online Global Theatre. First of all It is highly unlikely that Jani made you buy this when you were still a rookie. Usually you have the option to use your director's site. Jani was poorer then poor when she joined Coastal, so she is VERY understanding of people's finances and NEVER makes them get anything they do not need or can not afford. Secondly, there is no way you can convince me that this theatre did not work half the time. In my 7 months with the CSG, I have NEVER had the global not work. Most of our prospects get their final questions answered this way...if it were faulty, we would not be able to rely on it...so that claim sounds very false. Again I say search your side first before pointing fingers...could the problem be with your computer set up???

"I bought leads at Jani's recommendation...very expensive....but I bought the best lead which was over $10 each..."

- As I mentioned before. Jani would not have made you buy any certain kind of lead. When I told her of my financial strain, she immediately gave me several options for more affordable leads. I have not bought a $10 lead yet, and I am doing just fine. Jani always says "a lead is a lead" It doesn't really matter how much the lead cost you. If you connect with the prospect and they are interested in the business, they could have been a $1 aged lead for all you care. It's all in how you work it and how interested the prospect is. So again I say...look in the mirror. Did you do all you were supposed to do? Did you follow all the steps? Did you ask for advice when you were unsure? Or did you give up and write a nasty report?

"When I asked about income, jani kept refering me to personal development..."

- This is the very CORE truth of this business. Of course we all get into it for the money. But if you commit to the process, it might take you a month or a year to make your first million, but it is 80% attitude, 20% skill. It's ALL about Personal Development. If you get nasty everytime you don't succeed and you feel the need to write such a report with out even identifying yourself....then that tells me that you have NOT committed to the process. You are only looking for the green it this...but money is not the only thing that is green...so is envy! That is why you think the CSG is a cult. Because these people actually CARE. Every one of the leaders and directors in CSG is interested in helping people. In the process of helping people, you make money too. Is that so wrong?
Not only are you not committed to the process, you are obviously somewhat self serving. You have not yet grown to the point of sincerely caring for others. That is something you learn through personal development. Help others and you will be helped. It's like the law of attraction. But you obviously are still caught in the mortal thought of me - me - me. Or else you would not even have written this report.

"...CSG does not share official coastal information with its members..."

- FALSE!!! Have you even been on enough calls or global presentations to say this?
CSG gets all it's coastal vacations info from the parent group. How else could they function as a Coastal Vacations business?
You can be on a BOD call and on a CSG call and experience the same thing and get the same information. I know because I have done so. I have even listened to BOD training calls when I missed a CSG call. The only time I experienced different information was when I was with the call center because their entire mode of operation was different.

Finally, you had mentioned in your second report that you did not attend the New York event...then how can you say anything about what happened there when you were not there???? Losing directors??? it did not look like that to me.
The event was a triumphant success. And the directors that you claim are being lied to were the ones sharing thier stories and encouraging up and comers. Anybody could work thier way up to a leadership position...it's up to the individual adn what they want to achieve. It was a wonderful event. You could approach anyone, and get the same support and when it's time to sign up they ALWAYS direct you to your director. Nobody steals prospects from anyone, everyone is supporting everyone. And for your information, Jani and Pierre's team was the most represented.
So they must be doing something right!

So dear Pamela, please search your heart for there in lies the problem. Don't take out your own inadequacies and impatience on these wonderful people who are only doing thier best to help others make a change in their lives.
And as you strive for the gold, remember that it is not only money that makes you successful and prosperous. It is ALL parts of your life that count. So work on you!!

I send you Peace!

Feel free to contact me
Susan, N.Y.


Naomi

Moab,
Utah,
U.S.A.

Nice try, I am still going to move forward!

#16Consumer Comment

Fri, November 16, 2007

I have been researching CSG for approximately one month. While doing my research I located Jani and Pierre. Through good advertising techniques and accessability (you talk to real people right away), they have created success. I know they have had to work very hard to do so. I am currently preparing to join their team!

What "Pamela" reported might have made me feel fearful about joining Jade Peaks, and in fact, may have stopped me from joining, had I read the report sooner. I suppose that was most likely the sole purpose of "Pamela's" accusations--to stop others from pursuing business with Jade Peaks. Well, in a sense then, I must congratulate "Pamela," she may have tarnished their reputation a bit, and may have stopped someone from going on with Jade Peaks. Too bad for them! But not me! Not this time!

If I am wrong about Jani and Pierre, then I will be hurt tremendously both personally and financially. I will have hit complete financial ruin. I have never ventured into something like this before and I have HUGE fears as I step out into the unknown! But in speaking with them, I truly beleive them to be honest people who are running a business that provides its customers with the service they believe they are paying for. They have worked hard to establish a sense of trust with me, they have been available to answer any question that I have asked. I believe they will help train me for success with CSG the way that they have promised. Some of the statements that "Pamela" made do not corrolate at all with what I have found in my research and conversations with Jani and Pierre.

I promise any prospective Jade Peaks team members out there that I will be back here and every other possible web-based avenue for reporting "ripoffs" or "scams" should I make a poor choice! But I am usually a very good judge of character. I believe that my time spent on the internet in the future will be spent building my business.

It is just too bad if someone feels the need to try to hurt another person(s) in order to make some sort of personal gain. Certainly as adults you would think we would have put that behavior behind us by now! Call it "Karma," or a "law of nature," or simply say, "what comes around, goes around," but I believe that any false accusations that "Pamela" made will ultimately only hurt her in the end.

Perhaps "Pamela" is another CSG director who is actually envious of the team that Jani and Pierre are creating. I would bet "Pamela" could have remained honest and simply spoken to Jani or Pierre about some fresh ideas. After all, it never hurts to share ideas in a reciprocating manner (networking), it only sparks creativity and leads to better performance for everyone.

Sincerely,


Naomi

Moab,
Utah,
U.S.A.

Nice try, I am still going to move forward!

#16Consumer Comment

Fri, November 16, 2007

I have been researching CSG for approximately one month. While doing my research I located Jani and Pierre. Through good advertising techniques and accessability (you talk to real people right away), they have created success. I know they have had to work very hard to do so. I am currently preparing to join their team!

What "Pamela" reported might have made me feel fearful about joining Jade Peaks, and in fact, may have stopped me from joining, had I read the report sooner. I suppose that was most likely the sole purpose of "Pamela's" accusations--to stop others from pursuing business with Jade Peaks. Well, in a sense then, I must congratulate "Pamela," she may have tarnished their reputation a bit, and may have stopped someone from going on with Jade Peaks. Too bad for them! But not me! Not this time!

If I am wrong about Jani and Pierre, then I will be hurt tremendously both personally and financially. I will have hit complete financial ruin. I have never ventured into something like this before and I have HUGE fears as I step out into the unknown! But in speaking with them, I truly beleive them to be honest people who are running a business that provides its customers with the service they believe they are paying for. They have worked hard to establish a sense of trust with me, they have been available to answer any question that I have asked. I believe they will help train me for success with CSG the way that they have promised. Some of the statements that "Pamela" made do not corrolate at all with what I have found in my research and conversations with Jani and Pierre.

I promise any prospective Jade Peaks team members out there that I will be back here and every other possible web-based avenue for reporting "ripoffs" or "scams" should I make a poor choice! But I am usually a very good judge of character. I believe that my time spent on the internet in the future will be spent building my business.

It is just too bad if someone feels the need to try to hurt another person(s) in order to make some sort of personal gain. Certainly as adults you would think we would have put that behavior behind us by now! Call it "Karma," or a "law of nature," or simply say, "what comes around, goes around," but I believe that any false accusations that "Pamela" made will ultimately only hurt her in the end.

Perhaps "Pamela" is another CSG director who is actually envious of the team that Jani and Pierre are creating. I would bet "Pamela" could have remained honest and simply spoken to Jani or Pierre about some fresh ideas. After all, it never hurts to share ideas in a reciprocating manner (networking), it only sparks creativity and leads to better performance for everyone.

Sincerely,


Naomi

Moab,
Utah,
U.S.A.

Nice try, I am still going to move forward!

#16Consumer Comment

Fri, November 16, 2007

I have been researching CSG for approximately one month. While doing my research I located Jani and Pierre. Through good advertising techniques and accessability (you talk to real people right away), they have created success. I know they have had to work very hard to do so. I am currently preparing to join their team!

What "Pamela" reported might have made me feel fearful about joining Jade Peaks, and in fact, may have stopped me from joining, had I read the report sooner. I suppose that was most likely the sole purpose of "Pamela's" accusations--to stop others from pursuing business with Jade Peaks. Well, in a sense then, I must congratulate "Pamela," she may have tarnished their reputation a bit, and may have stopped someone from going on with Jade Peaks. Too bad for them! But not me! Not this time!

If I am wrong about Jani and Pierre, then I will be hurt tremendously both personally and financially. I will have hit complete financial ruin. I have never ventured into something like this before and I have HUGE fears as I step out into the unknown! But in speaking with them, I truly beleive them to be honest people who are running a business that provides its customers with the service they believe they are paying for. They have worked hard to establish a sense of trust with me, they have been available to answer any question that I have asked. I believe they will help train me for success with CSG the way that they have promised. Some of the statements that "Pamela" made do not corrolate at all with what I have found in my research and conversations with Jani and Pierre.

I promise any prospective Jade Peaks team members out there that I will be back here and every other possible web-based avenue for reporting "ripoffs" or "scams" should I make a poor choice! But I am usually a very good judge of character. I believe that my time spent on the internet in the future will be spent building my business.

It is just too bad if someone feels the need to try to hurt another person(s) in order to make some sort of personal gain. Certainly as adults you would think we would have put that behavior behind us by now! Call it "Karma," or a "law of nature," or simply say, "what comes around, goes around," but I believe that any false accusations that "Pamela" made will ultimately only hurt her in the end.

Perhaps "Pamela" is another CSG director who is actually envious of the team that Jani and Pierre are creating. I would bet "Pamela" could have remained honest and simply spoken to Jani or Pierre about some fresh ideas. After all, it never hurts to share ideas in a reciprocating manner (networking), it only sparks creativity and leads to better performance for everyone.

Sincerely,


Jennifer Caruso

Hightstown,
New Jersey,
U.S.A.

High Expectations with Jani's Leadership

#16UPDATE Employee

Thu, November 15, 2007

I am pleased to write on behalf of Jani and Pierre, my esteemed directors, who have assisted me in every way they said they would. Neither of them have let me down, because I chose them with precision.

When I think of my first few conversations with Jani, which only came after speaking with other directors whom I did NOT wish to work with, it was abundantly clear that Jani was someone that was warm, welcoming, straight forward, and genuine. Every time Jani said she would email, call, or help me, she did it. So, trust was established early and easily. I did my homework, read, and sought my own information, but our good relationship quickly made me a team member.

Through my training since July, we discussed her position, at length, on many topics. but mostly how strongly she felt about the CSG being a great team, with many wonderful, experienced, gifted directors and leaders to guide us and learn from. She spent hours explaining every aspect of running her business, how her team was built, personal growth, and how she would like to continue to do business--with a consistent, predictable, and a conscientious manner that is extremely personalized and caring, let alone truthful.

I am a person who tends to gravitate toward truth-seeking, generous, charitable and spiritual individuals--it's no coincidence that Jani also takes a firm position on helping others in need, and taking action when it is necessary. I prefer to do what I feel is right, regardless of the outcome, because I know in the end that what Dr. Martin Luther King Junior said is true, that, "Our lives begin to end when we are silent about things that matter." I truly appreciate all that Jani stands for, and hope that I may help you understand her better through reading this.

Jennifer
Hightstown, New Jersey Team Member


Ibizniz

Murphy,
Texas,
U.S.A.

Sadly the accused is left to respond and clear her good name.

#16Consumer Comment

Wed, November 14, 2007

Hello

I am indeed saddened to read this report. It is clear that a "Pamela" can write a negative report on a highly respected Coastal Director and walk off leaving the damage behind her.

Anyone reading this series of rebuttals can see that if "Pamela" was a real person she would have returned to address the question of providing the proof behind her claim.

We will all become a victim of this kind of senseless and shameless name calling at one time or other, it is probably just a matter of time, however, it is unjust that this happened to such a lovely and caring director.

Regards,
Maria
Level 3 director


Jani Teeter

St Lazarre,
Quebec,
Canada

Thanks Everyone for your Support and clear headedness!

#16REBUTTAL Individual responds

Mon, November 12, 2007

We would like to publically thank the very many people who have called and written to me and Pierre in the past few days with their sympathy and support.

It was pointed out to me that the unique user id (site login) that created this report "Marsha b" actually filled another defamatory (and obviously false) report on another upstanding member of the CSG on October 30. I think that should tell everyone something.

Those of you who DO NOT know, this website is unregulated, and no reports will EVER be taken down, for ANY reason. There is lots of legal mumbo jumbo in the menu links that explain the reasoning and policies of ripoffreports.com aka badbusinessbureau.com.

The only recourse we have is legal action against the perpetraitor- who, due to the anonymous nature of this forum- can't be identified. Even if ripoffreports were to provide us with that persons contact information (We would need to go through great lengths to obtain a subpeona), it would most likely lead to a dead end, bogus freemail account. You can be assured however, that if we ever DO find out the real identity of individual/s that are attempting to discredit us in any fashion: here or elsewhere- We will pursue it to the fullest extent of the law. We stand for the truth, the whole truth, and nothing BUT the truth- in ALL things!

We do know of some prominent individuals online who have publically made every effort to discredit the CSG touting the "official system" amongst others. It seems that successful directors with a strong voice online are the latest target. As Coastal is NOT a company, but an association of independant business owners and the BOD is NOT a legal entity, but a collection of successful business owners (aka Directors) who volounteer their time- I would like to know how is "official" anything more then a name? Its like saying Coca Cola is the "official sponsor" of the olympic games! Folks, that is all about money- and nothing more. Advertising, marketing and promotions- always ALL about money, and generally when someone is discrediting another system or director, they are trying to highlight themselves as the "best" choice for you.

I'll be the first person to admit that I started my business: like anyone else- to make money. But, I will also tell you that I could never feel good about, enjoy or represent a company, product or system that was even remotely half baked- and I could never bring myself to take peoples hard earned money without providing them with a benefit that actually provided them with more value then they expected FOR their money. That is called value added exchange. I have clearly stated repeatedly that I will simply not make sales for the fact of making sales- I must help people in the process, and provide them with exceptional service and support, in addition to a great product if they choose to start this business under our leadership. Because of this commitment to myself and our team members- we have made a very good income. But the cart did not come before the horse, and I never will drop personal support and training in favour of making more sales. IF you are running this business with the primary intention of helping people- you have to make that choice eventually.

Anyone looking at this business should do complete homework- there is obviously competition for business online that is not exactly virtuous or even remotely honest and upfront. That being said- there are many, many Coastal Directors working quietly in less public fashions- who are decent, hardworking and ethical. Some are not- but those few who do not do clean business often take to the internet in an effort to reach a very broad audience, with minimal effort, and minimum face time. I'm out to change that ratio- and give clear voice to honest business owners on the internet, as well as keep this business' reputation honest and ethical, as a whole.

That said- there ARE successful people in ALL of the groups- and its WONDERFUL that CHOICE exists so people can choose a system that will work for THEM the best, and most importantly the ability to choose an individual Director that they believe in to LEAD them and teach them the skills they need to become successful. Being a true leader, and showing others the path to success- that is a test of credibility, strength and humanity.

I choose the CSG because of their leading edge system and technology, and most importantly because of the ethics and values the leadership of that group upholds and promotes. That the CSG is often now targeted, that other groups are literally copying parts of the MAC system- it says something. Change is GOOD- and I am glad to see it- as Pierre very clearly and correctly stated earlier- it benefits EVERYONE. By being members of Coastal Vacations (owning a package) we are all entitled to tap into the BOD system. The BOD is great at administrating our packages. The support they provide, is simply not comprehensive or adequate enough, or even appealing- for ME. It appeals to and works for other people- but obviously not everyone. That is fine and good.

I believe that its very important to treat people as individuals, and NOT consumers.

There are many different colleges and universities to choose from- it doesn't mean that your education is necessarily less valuable or creditable if you choose Harvard vs. Yale, for example.

Its very sad, that when one chooses to make a difference for others and by doing so, rises up as a successful and prominent business owner with online success- relatively "new" on the internet scene (I had never done anything online, and knew zero about marketing before I started my personal website last June, 2007-obviously what I have learned and accomplished has taken others by surprise- it isn't easy to make the first page of google, and competition is fierce)-that others (a very few others) instead of congratulating you, asking for your support and/or advice- or better yet adopting your honest and ernest business habits by providing quality information and support to people- they attack you.

That said, I am much better for this experience. I have learned a lot about what I really value and stand for- and wear this bogus report as a badge of honour. I am swimming with the "Big Boys" of internet marketing now, and they have obviously noticed us- though this is NOT how I wanted to make the first page of google for my secondary key term!! However, I hope those reading this report and its comments do get some valuable insight from it.

One of our many happy team members sent this to us in an email last evening:

..."Jani and Pierre, keep your chins up and continue to push forward. You are making a difference by helping others help themselves through Coastal, JP, and the CSG."...

Its very rewarding for us to do just that- make a difference by helping others. We will continue to push forward, and hope to make a difference not only in the lives of the people directly on our team- but hope to see a change in the marketing stance and support provided to others starting a Coastal Business under the guidance of other Directors and groups. This is a GREAT business, there are so many WONDERFUL people in it- no matter what system we use, we all represent the same truly exceptional products. Its sad that there is a few bad apples- but, sadly- that seems to be the reality everywhere in the world today. We aren't in Kansas anymore. (well, save some of my esteemed collegues!) But, you the consumer should now have a better way of sorting the wheat from the chaf. There is always a way to turn a negative into a positive.

A point I would like to make- review the ethical business and anti spam policy that ALL CSG members must adhere to, found at the bottom of every members "winning with coastal" website. That should tell you something about the values our chosen group upholds. Like Monica, we both did extensive research and investigation before starting our respective businesses, looked "behind the marketing" and made the best decision for ourselves.

Anyone looking at this site as part of your research- there ARE some complaints here about certain individuals that I would guess to be valid. BUT- again- if you are talking to a Director and considering working with them- ask them about it and listen carefully to the response! The nature of this website is anonymous and unregulated, after all. Good or bad- how that person chooses to handle complaints, if they are in the wrong or NOT, or even if the complaint is valid or entirely fictious- will reflect upon the kind of person they really are. What amazes me, is that there IS only 20 complaints or so in total at the time of this writing- and many of them appear to be invalid to me, as an experienced business owner, very familiar with Coastal Vacations and our package. Again, that should tell you something. There has been literally hundreds of thousands of memberships sold- to both people using the product and starting the business, and there are thousands of Directors happily working away, for the most part, quietly. 20 complaints, many of which are bogus- that isn't bad at all. In fact, IMHO- its remarkably good.

This website is here as a forum for people who HAVE been ripped off and ignored. These individuals have reason to be frustrated if they have approached the business they had misfortune with and their complaints were not dealt with and/or worse -ignored. Its truly WONDERFUL that the concept is about helping people as a last resort who have a valid complaint and not gotten resolution. It is NOT here for posting slander, whining, complaining and bad mouthing for the sake of hurting someones good business.

Thank-you again everyone for your kindness and support,

We sincerely appreciate it,

Jani Teeter and Pierre Trudeau
Level III Directors,
Coastal Synergy Group
Jade Peaks Coastal Mentoring
800-610-2085
the-truth-about-coastal.com

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Tim Savage

Perkinsville,
Vermont,
U.S.A.

Jani is perhaps the finest business person I've ever done business with in 20 years

#16Consumer Comment

Mon, November 12, 2007

Hi all,

It appears that someone is out to get Jani and CSG. I wish to say that Jani has been a client of mine and she was and is an absolute pleasure to deal with. Furthermore, I was priveleged to be on a Webinar with more than 500 people who were interacting with each other. I was Jani's guest and the team she has headed up is second to none.

Mind you, I'm not in the Coastal Vacations business, but I hung around the company to see what it was about. I ended up pursing other business interests but NOT because there was even one thing wrong with CSG, Jani, or Coastal Vacations.

Jani was most excellent in getting questions answered for me when I was investigating the opportunity and her clients are thrilled with her services to them. Some have been rescued from very serious and less-than-honorable business people because of Jani's efforts.

I welcome a call if any of you has a question about my dealings with Jani. Whoever wrote this report is either jealous or just plain harmful. I submit that there is NO SUCH PERSON and this report was likely filed in a bogus manner. Work with Jani for even a day, and you will know this entire report is one big lie.

Keep up the good work, Jani and Pierre! To others reading this, don't believe everything you read online. Always make sure you can verify the source BEFORE you trust what has been written. For example, you can call me at (((ROR removed for security purposes))) or e-mail me and you WILL find a real person with proof of what I say :-)

Be well,

Tim S

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Monica

Oklahoma City,
Oklahoma,
U.S.A.

Come on Guys

#16UPDATE Employee

Mon, November 12, 2007

When I first found Coastal, I did the very same thing everybody should - I searched the internet to find out what others had to say. I found nothing substantial against Coastal Vacations itself, although, I did find articles on specific directors. We are independent business owners and like all "franchise" type businesses, there will be some bad apples.

I looked at all the groups from the BOD, the call center, the individuals using PM's and finally the Coastal Synergy Group. Hands down, the CSG was where I invested my money. I had the opportunity to meet the leaders in NYC this weekend as well as many of my team members. I am so proud to be part of this group. I am honored to represent this opportunity.

Bad mouthing a director, a team and a group that has done nothing wrong is a disservice to all of us who have invested in this opportunity and who are looking to make an income from our homes. This is a legitimate business and a legitimate opportunity. We don't ever make claims on how well you as an individual will do. There are statistics available that have been proven over and over again, but this is a benchmark, something to aspire to or in some cases, even exceed. Anyone who believes they'll make a million bucks overnight doing nothing is just not very bright. Every successful person, regardless of industry has put in sweat and tears. Bottom line.

I am an accountant - been in industry for over 20 years. I can and did make an intelligent business decision when I joined the CSG and Jade Peaks. I recognized immediately that I was stepping out of my comfort zone and would require a lot of support to get my business up and running. Jani and Pierre have been there for me! As has the CSG. I love our Global Theater. I love taking my guests on this tour. We are factual, we are there to assist you in making your own decision. We don't hype. We don't push. You can imagine as an accountant how hype turns me off. I've been through the other group calls. They're a disservice to this industry.

I happen to know that one of the other groups has broken up. They could not duplicate the success of the leaders. I knew this immediately when looking at that particular group - I couldn't and didn't want to compete with their personal millions spent on marketing. It was all about them and not about me. I happen to know other successful CSG members who have broken away because they were turned down for leadership positions. The CSG stands firm on what they stand for. If thats not your philosophy, thats OK. You're an independent owner so go off and do your own thing. But don't post a fake report with a fake name that you can't substantiate with proof. You're not helping any of us show others that this is a legitimate business. There is more than enough to go around - for everybody. You're showing your greed - not your love for humanity.

From a business standpoint, tell me where else you can get beautifully designed websites, access to a national advertising campaign that is specific to your business (and all of us, regardless of which group we belong to use these), unlimited and ongoing training that can be referred to any time of the day, and a global environment where we can take our guests for the small price of $149.95. Folks, this was a dream come true for me. I certainly didn't have the where-with-all to go out and create that. 170 ways to advertise and/or a couple of CD's doesn't cut it for most of us. Giving me a computer or a bunch of junk leads doesn't help much either.

A lot of us have tried and failed before at a home business and some of us have never tried. It takes support and it takes a group and a director or in my case, directors, to guide us through. The company I left in June put up over $50,000 just to get 18 people on a sister company computer system. The guys put up almost $1 million in cash. At 6 months, they were in the hole over a quarter of a million dollars. Thats real life. A minimal operating budget of $500 runs circles around that.

Those directors who are running the numbers, and numbers only, can't honestly say they're providing one-on-one training. They can't honestly say they're there to answer their phones. There isn't enough time in the day. I've been on your calls, I know what they're like. Network marketing is still new - especially when it comes to the internet. Lets all work together and make it a viable option for those who want to rid ourselves of day care expenses, high gas costs, expensive ward robes, and the daily grind of working for someone else. Let us be home with our families and work this business with whomever we feel most comfortable with. I chose Jade Peaks and the CSG. The playing field is even for all of us in this group. It doesn't matter if you're an original or brand new. The system is in place that can be duplicated. The leaders have integrity. And Jani and Pierre have been the greatest source of personal support a newcomer like myself could ask for.

Yes, I am new, under 90 days, and from what I've read in the past, whomever you are, I expect you to bad mouth me for that. But I am not stupid - I am an intelligent business person who has chosen a new profession. I do not have unreasonable expectations. I knew it would require personal coaching, changes in my belief patterns, and some diligent hard work. I am definitely on track. Frankly the majority of directors outside the CSG would have dumped me after 30 days. Jani and Pierre did not. Instead, they focused more of their personal time on me and have helped me get over my own personal barriers. My learning lessons will translate to those I mentor going foward. I look forward to working with some Better than Great people who too see this opportunity for what it is. Expand your horizons and choose freedom for yourself and your family. The only loser in this business is the one that quits.

Monica
Level II Marketing Associate
Coastal Synergy Group
Jade Peaks Team Member


Call me. If you've done your research and want to talk facts, I will be happy to assist you with what I know.

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Marcie

Brampton,
Ontario,
Canada

My Personal Experience with Jani Teeter of Coastal Synergy Groups/Coastal Vacations

#16Consumer Comment

Sat, November 10, 2007

My name is Marcie, and I felt compelled to write and say that I know Jani personally-we've been friends for over 3 years now, and I knew her before her involvement with Coastal Vacations-before she ever owned and have watched her both carefully choose this business opportunity, and manage her business with the same ethics she has in her day to day life.

I'm not involved with, nor have I ever been involved in Coastal Vacations, (because I have a business of my own) but one of the biggest tests of someone's integrity, is how they speak of others when there isn't any gain for their business or career. Many people will speak one way with those they mentor, and another with those they don't. Jani speaks highly of her team members, being honest about how much work and commitment go into such a pursuit, and her genuine interest in others success is paramount. I have also never seen her "take" business from another member by bad-talking other leaders. She is confident in what she has to offer, and lets her results speak for themselves.

It is apparent through reading this fake report, that the writer is either very upset with Jani for taking potential business away, (after all-who wouldn't want to work with someone whose primary goal is to lead them to success!) and is posing as someone else in order to fake credibility, or they don't know Jani personally, because very little of what is said is correct.

If you're reading this because you're concerned about working with Jani, I would strongly suggest that you do your due dilligence-show that you're a person that thinks independently, and doesn't believe every ridiculous thing posted on the Internet. Give Jani a call and have a real conversation with her. She is down to earth, approachable, honest and hardworking.

If I ever were to join Coastal Vacations, I would want to work with someone who would really be available to me when I had questions, who would be honest about the time and financial investment it takes to run this type of business, and would treat me with respect both to my face and behind my back. For me, this would (no question!) be under Jani's guidance!


Sincerely,
Marcie


Marcie

Brampton,
Ontario,
Canada

My Personal Experience with Jani Teeter of Coastal Synergy Groups/Coastal Vacations

#16Consumer Comment

Sat, November 10, 2007

My name is Marcie, and I felt compelled to write and say that I know Jani personally-we've been friends for over 3 years now, and I knew her before her involvement with Coastal Vacations-before she ever owned and have watched her both carefully choose this business opportunity, and manage her business with the same ethics she has in her day to day life.

I'm not involved with, nor have I ever been involved in Coastal Vacations, (because I have a business of my own) but one of the biggest tests of someone's integrity, is how they speak of others when there isn't any gain for their business or career. Many people will speak one way with those they mentor, and another with those they don't. Jani speaks highly of her team members, being honest about how much work and commitment go into such a pursuit, and her genuine interest in others success is paramount. I have also never seen her "take" business from another member by bad-talking other leaders. She is confident in what she has to offer, and lets her results speak for themselves.

It is apparent through reading this fake report, that the writer is either very upset with Jani for taking potential business away, (after all-who wouldn't want to work with someone whose primary goal is to lead them to success!) and is posing as someone else in order to fake credibility, or they don't know Jani personally, because very little of what is said is correct.

If you're reading this because you're concerned about working with Jani, I would strongly suggest that you do your due dilligence-show that you're a person that thinks independently, and doesn't believe every ridiculous thing posted on the Internet. Give Jani a call and have a real conversation with her. She is down to earth, approachable, honest and hardworking.

If I ever were to join Coastal Vacations, I would want to work with someone who would really be available to me when I had questions, who would be honest about the time and financial investment it takes to run this type of business, and would treat me with respect both to my face and behind my back. For me, this would (no question!) be under Jani's guidance!


Sincerely,
Marcie


Marcie

Brampton,
Ontario,
Canada

My Personal Experience with Jani Teeter of Coastal Synergy Groups/Coastal Vacations

#16Consumer Comment

Sat, November 10, 2007

My name is Marcie, and I felt compelled to write and say that I know Jani personally-we've been friends for over 3 years now, and I knew her before her involvement with Coastal Vacations-before she ever owned and have watched her both carefully choose this business opportunity, and manage her business with the same ethics she has in her day to day life.

I'm not involved with, nor have I ever been involved in Coastal Vacations, (because I have a business of my own) but one of the biggest tests of someone's integrity, is how they speak of others when there isn't any gain for their business or career. Many people will speak one way with those they mentor, and another with those they don't. Jani speaks highly of her team members, being honest about how much work and commitment go into such a pursuit, and her genuine interest in others success is paramount. I have also never seen her "take" business from another member by bad-talking other leaders. She is confident in what she has to offer, and lets her results speak for themselves.

It is apparent through reading this fake report, that the writer is either very upset with Jani for taking potential business away, (after all-who wouldn't want to work with someone whose primary goal is to lead them to success!) and is posing as someone else in order to fake credibility, or they don't know Jani personally, because very little of what is said is correct.

If you're reading this because you're concerned about working with Jani, I would strongly suggest that you do your due dilligence-show that you're a person that thinks independently, and doesn't believe every ridiculous thing posted on the Internet. Give Jani a call and have a real conversation with her. She is down to earth, approachable, honest and hardworking.

If I ever were to join Coastal Vacations, I would want to work with someone who would really be available to me when I had questions, who would be honest about the time and financial investment it takes to run this type of business, and would treat me with respect both to my face and behind my back. For me, this would (no question!) be under Jani's guidance!


Sincerely,
Marcie


Pierre Trudeau

St-Lazare,
Quebec,
Canada

Please provide proof, there are many inconsistencies in your report!

#16REBUTTAL Owner of company

Fri, November 09, 2007

Hello mystery reporter,

I will not call you Pamela because I know this is not your real name. There are 3 Pamelas in my contact manager and none of them are from BC but most importantly, they are not part of my team nor have I entered into any business transactions with them.

Innocent until proven guilty is the basis of our justice system. So I will ask that you provide proof to substantiate your claims.

We do not accept credit card payments so I'm really puzzled on how you will come up with a proof of a financial transaction with us.

We always invoice our new associates before accepting their payment, please provide that invoice and also advise by what means it was delivered to you.

Someone indeed does have to qualify for the guarantee. If you have indeed gone through this process you should be in a position to explain the details of this qualification process and any documentation that resulted from it. Anyone making a claim, will keep any and all documentation as proof to substantiate such claim.

If you have indeed gone through training with us, which is quite extensive, you would not be talking about our marketing system as "normal website" nor "some online theater thing" You would have a much better understanding of their names, their multiple functions and their importance. Disagreeing with the effectiveness of the system does not erase all the knowledge you gained when being trained on it.

You speak of it as if it was an obscure system that you have not been informed on and that's just impossible after going through our training. Please provide the website address you were using when part of that system so that we can verify all records with our technology partner E2Impact for accuracy.

As for training and the fact that you found it to be not representative of what Jani told you, I'm sorry to say that when you created your fictitious report, you were not aware that I'm the one explaining training to new associates and not Jani. I take immense pride in the type of training we provide because my passion, my experience and my education is in adult learning. Our training approach not only explains clearly what to expect from us but guides you through the entire process. In fact there would be documentation that you would've received on this exact topic to provide expectations and guidance. Please let the viewers know what this documentation is and by what means you received it.

For the lead purchase, please provide proof of purchase so that we can validate with the lead provider. Also, there is something very specific I do regarding the lead provider and a new associate upon phase 1 of training. Please explain what this is so that readers can determine whether you have actually trained with me.

As for the claims of income, you and I both know that it's on an optional basis and there have certainly been more than 3. This is an obvious ploy to try to discredit the CSG and their leading system and technology.

When I started this business, the Coastal Vacations Board of Directors was seemingly out of the fax on demand era and starting to explore online marketing. Their system was very archaic which created a demand for other support groups. The CSG is one of them and they have been leading the pack ever since. The Board of Directors have gone through great lengths to improve their support system and many times by copying our methods. They are to be commended for it, they're providing increasingly better support which is good for every body.

The CSG has the success of their members at heart because they come from service. I think that if any groups out there, including the B.O.D., run their business with the focus of helping people rather than trying to crush the competition, they will succeed and will help promote this great business. Creating such false report is not helping the Coastal business as a whole. It will provide you with temporary gains while you remove customers from us and then you'll have to come up with another under handed tactic.

We don't intend to use those methods. Anybody can file a report anonymously and stain someone's reputation. Being vindictive and dishonest cannot possibly lead you to great achievements in your life and will always remain on your conscience. You may try to hide what you're doing, but YOU know and that stays with you.

I encourage you to stop these accusations and retract your report. If you choose to dig deeper in this sea of lies, do be mindful of the fact that all our associates have gone through our training and support which is done is a consistent manner time after time. We train everybody the exact same way therefore all our Team members know the answers to the questions and proofs I requested in my rebuttal. They will easily comment on anything you submit which will naturally discredit you.

It's obvious that you created your report as if you were developing an ad campaign. You obviously know search engine terms and have used the ones that would allow people to find us. It's great that you have developed extensive marketing skills and I'm almost tempted to thank you for putting us at the top of the search engines, but I would rather suggest that you use this knowledge to help your Team rather than attacking others. There's never any good that can come out of such actions. It's obvious that you felt targeted in the special report we put on our website that exposes Directors that are focusing on sales and not helping their team.
We're sorry if this offended you but we do take pride in putting the needs of our Team before our own because we know that by helping people first, we're helping ourselves.

I do not wish to turn this into an endless debate, I just want to continue helping the people that want to start their business with the great support we offer. We both have a different way of helping our teams, let's just do it so that everybody wins.

Please retract your report, I'm quick to forgive and I hope you learn something from this experience.

Sincerely,

Pierre Trudeau
Level III Coastal Director & Coach
Coastal Synergy Group
Jade Peaks Mentoring
888-548-8515
www.csgTrainer.com
www.The-Truth-About-Coastal.com


Jani Teeter

St Lazarre,
Quebec,
Canada

I don't know anyone named "Pamela" NOR to I work with anyone from Vancouver

#16REBUTTAL Individual responds

Fri, November 09, 2007

Dear Pamela...

I am very sorry to see that whoever you are, you have tried to defame myself, my business partner Pierre, the CSG and in fact the entire Coastal Vacations business opportunity. You have done many decent people that are hardworking a great dis-service. You might be after ME, but have you had any consideration for my team of good people that work so very hard and are proud of the fact that I am their director? Service orientation in this, or any business is VERY important! Self service has only short term gain....

I realize by the writing of your report, that you are in fact, a competitive member of Coastal Vacations who is very aware of search engine patterns and you are doing your poorly thought out best to dis-credit my good buisness. I realize that my business has turned many prominent heads in the past 6 months, and that jealousy is rampant in this industry. At the end of the day, I aim to be a credit to this industry and stand on my personal ethics. Pamela, the same can not be said of you. I, for one will not EVER engage in any black hat kind of SEO management.

As I do not know anyone in either my personal nor business circles by the name of "Pamela", nor do I work with anyone in Vancouver BC I have to either assume that you are attempting to take away from my/our credibility and/or have some kind of mental illness. Really, at the end of the day- I have to actually thank you for posting a permanent bogus claim online. It merely proves my point of how low less ethical and professional business owners will stoop in the name of profit. You can be assured, Pamela- that if I ever DO find out your real identity- I will pursue this matter to the fullest extent of the law for the sake of my good name. I will remind you that defamation of charactor is a crime.

Really, have the decency to post some facts to the public audience here that gives your claim a shred of credibility! I never accept payment without invoicing. Post your invoice here, online- Pamela. Why don't you show the audience proof that you have not had success and you followed our guidance with your business? As I don't know who you are, and have never EVER worked with a Pamela, that will be absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to do! It is obvious to anyone who knows the very first thing about search engines and marketing that this is a defamatory marketing technique.

I look forward to your reply. On the other hand, I can prove my side of the story- there really ISN'T one!

Sincerely,

Jani Teeter
Coastal Vacations LIII Director,
Coastal Synergy Group
Founder: Jade Peaks Mentoring
800-610-2085

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