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Jeff Paul, Mentoring Of America ripoff, lies, no communication American Fork Utah
These are very good sales people. Jeremy Cheney was the ace there who talked us into what a great thing this was going to be for us and all the money we would be making soon. They were going to 'spoon feed' us the entire program so that we could duplicate what we were paying them $9499.00 to do with 10 websites. Those websites were supposed to be done within a couple of weeks. Now that 3 months has passed, we still do not have websites. Our numerous phone calls for help and/or complaints go largely unanswered or passed off to another division where we also leave recorded messages asking for help or voicing complaints. There has been minimal help from anyone there. They sold us the idea that anyone with no or minimal computer experience would soon be churning out moneymaking websites by themself. We have some computer experience and have shown this program to friends who have considerably greater internet knowledge about building websites. The overwhelming opinion is that very little of the program is user-friendly and certainly not for a novice to attempt. We were guaranteed our money back if for any reason we are unsatisfied with results or any part of training. We are completely unsatisfied and trying to get a refund. I have contacted local police who will take it up with Utah authorities. I have filed a Better Business Bureau report in Utah and I have contacted the credit card fraud reporting agency trying to resolve this matter. If this does not produce desired results soon, we have already been in contact with a collections attorney in Utah for further help. I urge others to do the same if you are having trouble with these people.
Kent
Kearney, Nebraska
U.S.A.
4 Updates & Rebuttals
Anonymus
Southern,California,
U.S.A.
Mentoring of America employee BRIAN BUTAS was arrested and jailed for insurance fraud last year 2005. TYLER TRUMAN, his co-worker is a known fraud.
#5UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sat, October 21, 2006
MENTORING OF AMERICA EMPLOYEE ARRESTED AND JAILED FOR INSURANCE FRAUD LAST YEAR.
These are some of the types of people working at Mentoring of America LLC in Utah hiding behind their telephones, and cheating people all across the U.S out of thousands of dollars with these coaching programs.
BRIAN BUTAS:
BRIAN BUTAS is a guy was worked for Mentoring of America in late 2005, then was jailed and arrested for insurance fraud last year by the local St.George Utah sheriff's office. While working at Mentoring of America, this guy went and applied for a $250K life insurance policy, then faked his own death and disappearance to try to collect it after he became involved in financial problems. BRIAN BUTAS told people he was going to go on a lone hiking trip in a local hiking trail near St. George, Utah. That was false. He secretly purchased a one-way ticket to Queensland, Australia where he instead secretly fled to and hid there from the authorities.
Meanwhile back home, local St.George, Utah sheriff authorities launched an extensive search effort near that hiking trail looking for this missing MENTORING OF AMERICA employee named BRIAN BUTAS. After over a week of searching, local Utah sheriff's authorities tracked him down and found BRIAN BUTAS hiding out in Queensland, Australia. Utah Sheriff's flew all the way over to Australia to arrest him, and brought him back to Utah. He was jailed for insurance fraud.
This Mentoring of America employee caused the local sheriff's office to waste approximately $20,000.00 of taxpayer dollars in a search effort to look for him. All for nothing.
You can see the local news video reports on this guy below: Copy and paste:
In a twist of irony, in one of the below news report videos, you will see his friend and co-worker at Mentoring of America TYLER TRUMAN speak. It's the guy with blond hair. Both worked together at Mentoring of America. TYLER TRUMAN still does in fact. This exact same guy has been reported here on this website for having cheated several people out of tens of thousands of dollars while working at Mentoring of America. And this during the same time frame he's here doing a news interview too.
News report videos on this MENTORING OF AMERICA employee. Copy and paste:
abc4.com/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=21904
And here: Copy and paste:
kutv.com/topstories/local_story_282184920.html
Although I have not found any rip-off reports on BRIAN BUTAS or anywhere else, his fraudulent activities above and financial problems while he worked for MENTORING OF AMERICA would indicate that he would probably not have any problems cheating you out of thousands of dollars over the phone.
TYLER TRUMAN of Saint George, Utah:
TYLER TRUMAN, the blond haired guy you saw speak in the above news report video about his MENTORING OF AMERICA friend and co-worker misteriously disappearing, has himself cheated people out of tens of thousands of dollars.
Here TYLER TRUMAN cheats a Florida woman now pregnant, about to have a baby, and struggling to pay that huge credit card bill, for $14,695.00.
ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff208959.htm
And here again we have the same exact TYLER TRUMAN selling his garbage coaching programs cheating yet another person for $9,895.00 that he graciously charged on multiple credit cards.
ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff155290.htm
TYLER TRUMAN still works at Mentoring of America today. TYLER works at MENTORING OF AMERICA'S discrete and hard to find Washington, Utah office location at:
Mentoring of America LLC
204 East Playa Delia Rosita #6
Washington Utah 84780
U.S.A.
Phone: 435-627-1825
Fax: 435-627-1800
TYLER TRUMAN resides in nearby St. George, Utah with wife Cicely at 5699 N 2000 W. His home line is 435-688-9305. Feel free to give this guy a piece of your thoughts in regards to his actions and what he has done and caused people financially.
MENTORING OF AMERICA has been facing numerous legal lawsuits all this year, like the one linked at the very top of this page, because of lowly employees like these who simply use fraudulent misleading business practices and coerce people out of thousands of dollars each.
If anyone has been ripped off by TYLER TRUMAN in this same manner, or by any other MENTORING OF AMERICA employee for coaching done for guru's Jeff Paul, John Beck, or John Alexander, file a consumer complaint form with the UTAH DIVISION OF CONSUMER PROTECTION to get a full refund of your money.
Utah Consumer Complaint Form:
www.dcp.utah.gov/downloads/complaintform.pdf
Then contact Utah investigator Ao Pauga at 801-530-6601. His first name is pronounced "Al". He is the investigator handling Mentoring of America. He is well aware of MENTORING OF AMERICA'S fraud business practices as well as all the complaints that pour into his desk about them. He helped me get back my $7,000 plus I lost to MENTORING OF AMERICA after I was given a fake money back guarantee and other false promises and statements by one of their lowly, unscrupulous employees.
Milo
San Diego,California,
U.S.A.
Detective wants to get involved
#5Consumer Suggestion
Fri, October 20, 2006
As a concerned Citizen who has not actually been ripped off by them myself. I have placed some calls into the company letting them know that stealing peoples money is wrong. I was immediately transfered to a Detective who is investigating recent threats made into the Mentoring of America Office. The detectives name is Gary Jordanson and claims he would shut the company down because no one would get away with it in his town. His name is Gary Jordanson 435-862-9849. I urged him to review complaints on this sight and he claims he was not aware of this sight. Please let him know what these crooks have done to you. Who knows they may be paying off the local sheriffs - but I think its worth a try!!! Its such a shame our law enforcement agencies go after the kids stealing candy etc... They are in jail the next day.
Pebbles
Herriman,Utah,
U.S.A.
GET YOUR MONEY BACK, SHUT THE COMPANY DOWN, I KNOW
#5Consumer Suggestion
Wed, September 13, 2006
Hello,
I need to start out by saying that I never worked for Mentoring of America. But I did work for a similar sales floor that sold John Beck products. AS A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF A COMPANY SILIMAR TO THIS, please let me say of what a rip off these places are.
I happen to know many people working at Mentoring of America and John Beck. THEY ARE ALL YOUNG PUNKS EARNING LOTS OF MONEY OFF OF THIS. I'm not kidding, I worked at 3 different sales floors in Utah selling this stuff, I didn't sell it, I was a secretary/office manager there and I'm so embarrassed that I did it. These guys are making 1K + a week. Most of them do drugs and are looking for a good way to support their habit.
They all say they are looking for a success story in your area, it's just a sales line. No one really makes as much money as they are saying. They mark this stuff up so much and you can get in yourself for dollars. Hosting a website cost like $20/ a month. And doesn't cost 1K to build, nor does all that stuff, the coaches read from a script and get paid $7 / hr.
As someone who knows about this I can't stand that they are still ripping people off. You either need to do:
1. A Charge back on your visa. The more charge backs a company gets, their merchant account will freeze, not necessarily resulting in your money back, but big trouble for the company.
2. As someone else has been stating (I'm sorry I forgot your name) Yes, call Ao Pauga, with the UTAH consumer Agency. I have spoken to him several times in order to "try to save sales" at the old company I used to work at. When we received letters from him, we did worry and he can get the company in trouble.
I feel so bad that I stayed in the industry for so long but I want to help people get there money back, hopefully with my help... they can
Anonymus
Southern,California,
U.S.A.
Kent, file this complaint against Mentoring of America if you have not already done so.
#5Consumer Suggestion
Sat, September 09, 2006
Kent,
First of, Mentoring of America sells coaching for 3 gurus. Jeff Paul, John Beck, and John Alexander.
Now,
If you have not already done so, filing a consumer complaint with the Utah Division of Consumer Protection is what you need to do to get a full refund. It has gotten several people on this site full refunds, all within just the last few weeks. Myself included.
This is the complaint form to fill out that REALLY gets Mentoring of America to comply to refund requests that have been denied. Because they are under more lawsuits right now, and have been under legal action from the Utah Division of Consumer Protection for years now, the are under a lot of heat. Mentoring of America has issued full refunds to everyone that I have seen on this site so far, that has filed this complaint against them.
Copy and paste the link below. Print this form out. Fill it out completely and mail it to the address that's on the form itself.
www.consumerprotection.utah.gov/downloads/complaintform.pdf
Use the summary box of this complaint form and be sure to mention the fact that one of their employees, Jeremy Cheney gave you a fake money back guarantee. They did the exact same thing to me. Then refused to give me a refund when I asked for one after the sale.
Staple a copy of your bank or credit card statements to your complaint form, with the charges of $9,499.00 highlighted.
Also with your complaint form, include a copy of any enrollment of confirmation pages they should have sent you in the mail to sign and return, if you have any.
Mention their people by name, like Jeremy Cheney if you can remember them.
You can get a refund no matter how long ago it was. Any verbal agreements or verbal contracts done over the phone are not considered valid in Utah and don't count. Mentoring of America knows this, but they tell people who call demanding a refund, that they have you recorded on tape agreeing to a no-refund policy in an attempt to deter you from pursuing a refund.
This is their main corporate address. Use this on your consumer complaint form regadless of which other of their Utah offices you are dealing with:
Mentoring of America LLC
752 East 1180 South Suite #200
American Fork, Utah 84003
Phone: 877-704-6346
The lawsuits against Mentoring of America in Utah have been aired on the local news. Here's a video.
Copy and paste:
wkrc.com/mediacenter/?videoId=10945=9
After you complaint form has been received, keep in contact with Utah investigator Ao Pauga at 801-530-6601. His first name is pronounced "Al".
Please keep us posted on your situation.